2013.11.24 07:00 - This and That

The Guardian for this meeting was Bleu Oleander. The comments are by Bleu Oleander.

Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
Xirana Oximoxi: 's current display-name is "Xirana".
Bleu Oleander: hi Xiri :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hi Belu! :)
Xirana Oximoxi: ui..sorry..Bleu*
Bleu Oleander: np :)
Bleu Oleander: how are u?
Bleu Oleander: working on some new projects?
Xirana Oximoxi: I'm fine, thanks :)
Xirana Oximoxi: well..I am still with my children's books :) I am also writitng a tale myself
Bleu Oleander: nice
Bleu Oleander: hiya Aggers
Agatha Macbeth: Hi girls
Xirana Oximoxi: it's all new for me and I am not sure which results will I get :-)
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Aga girl! :)
Agatha Macbeth: How are you guapina?
Bleu Oleander: so you're writing a children's book?
Xirana Oximoxi: fine than you :-)) and you?
Agatha Macbeth: I'm good :)
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...I am waititng for a young writer to send me his text....and in the meanwhile I am training myself :)
Bleu Oleander: fun!
Xirana Oximoxi: yes :)
Agatha Macbeth: That sounds wonderful Xira
Xirana Oximoxi: also..I must do a lot of sketching and drawing to get skilled drawing animated beings :)
Xirana Oximoxi: animated in the drawings:)
Agatha Macbeth: I'm sure you will be excellent at it :)
Bleu Oleander: for an online book?
Xirana Oximoxi: thanks Aga! We will see :)
Xirana Oximoxi: I am also reading about publishing
Bleu Oleander: are u using an animation program?
Xirana Oximoxi: it's vert different how you must 'compose' a book if it is to be edited on paper or online
Bleu Oleander: yes!
Xirana Oximoxi: no...I am learning with pencils the 'old' way :)
Bleu Oleander: ah ok
Xirana Oximoxi: in my view..children's books must be on paper
Bleu Oleander: why is that?
Bleu Oleander: so many kids are using iPad these days
Xirana Oximoxi: but it is expensive ...and on the other side, if you publish it online more easy to promote it
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Xirana Oximoxi: well..at what age a kid uses an ipad?
Bleu Oleander: I've seen some pretty young ones!
Agatha Macbeth: I don't even own one ha
Bleu Oleander: haha
Bleu Oleander: yes some adults don't use yet
Xirana Oximoxi: me either :)) we don't have the age Aga :))
Agatha Macbeth: Hm
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: I mean...joking, that we are not 'old' enough:)
Agatha Macbeth: The question I always ask is do I need them?
Bleu Oleander: hmmm
Agatha Macbeth: The answer would seem to be no
Bleu Oleander: "need" .... a convenient concept sometimes lol
Xirana Oximoxi: do parents buy an ipad for a child that's 7 or 8 years old?
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, definitions
Bleu Oleander: I've seen some infants watching iPads
Bleu Oleander: parents set it in front of them to keep them occupied
Agatha Macbeth: Good way to keep em quiet
Bleu Oleander: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: maybe in Spain it's not so usual...I will have to ask my brother...he has borrowed me a lot of paper books and he has two kids and no ipad either :)
Bleu Oleander: but may affect how they develop in some ways
Agatha Macbeth: Good for him :p
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: child do not care if they damage a book...that's why usually most are done of more hard cardboard
Agatha Macbeth: Yes
Xirana Oximoxi: so, that's why I thought it was better than an Ipad..but maybe I am wrong :)
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: I remember those books for very young children which were virtually indestructible with big letters :p
Xirana Oximoxi: yes:) lots of images and few text :)
Agatha Macbeth nods
Bleu Oleander: I think its inevitable that technology will seep into everything ... kids seem to take to it pretty fast
Agatha Macbeth: Good job
Bleu Oleander: need help? ask a kid :)
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Xirana Oximoxi: I've reread book like the 'Small Prince' 'Ozland'...and I've loved them again
Bleu Oleander: yes :)
Agatha Macbeth: Mine are way smarter than me anyway ha
Xirana Oximoxi: yes :)) I will
Agatha Macbeth: Aww Sun did a particle class earlier and I didn't know :(
Xirana Oximoxi: The Wonderful Wizard of Oz...http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/55
Bleu Oleander: when was her class?
Agatha Macbeth: 5PM SLT
Agatha Macbeth: AM
Xirana Oximoxi: oh! I did miss it too :-(
Agatha Macbeth: Rather
Agatha Macbeth: 1PM for me
Bleu Oleander: 5am is early for me!
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Agatha Macbeth: Oh poo, I must check these things more often
Bleu Oleander: me too :)
Agatha Macbeth: I hate it when I see something really good which happened hours ago
Bleu Oleander: ha ha!
Xirana Oximoxi: yes :) me too!
Agatha Macbeth: No GM today is there?
Bleu Oleander: nope last week
Xirana Oximoxi: how are your projects going Bleu?
Agatha Macbeth: Ah good thx
Bleu Oleander: rl projects are busy ... sl not anything atm
Xirana Oximoxi: ok :)
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Agatha Macbeth: Will SoS never come back?
Bleu Oleander: I don't think so ... we couldn't get enough people to come into sl
Agatha Macbeth: :(
Agatha Macbeth: That's the problem these days
Bleu Oleander: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Seems to be the same all over
Agatha Macbeth: The only things which seem to pull people in are music and sex
Bleu Oleander: are there any groups that are really successful now in sl? that you know of?
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, not sure if there's a way of finding out
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...I think even art galleries are a not a big succes
Agatha Macbeth: With sims you can look at traffic
Agatha Macbeth: But does that work with groups too?
Bleu Oleander: not sure
Agatha Macbeth: The thing with a group is it may have a lot of members, but many have not logged on for 3 or 4 years :p
Bleu Oleander: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: sometimes even the creator of the group :)
Agatha Macbeth: To be honest I don't think the Lindens do themselves much good either
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe they are geeks and not business people :p
Bleu Oleander smiles
Xirana Oximoxi: nop...I agree..the ToS sound awful for createors..they ask for 'perpetual' rights of what you do here
Agatha Macbeth: Yes I heard about that
Bleu Oleander: are they sticking to that?
Agatha Macbeth: Talk about shooting your own foot
Xirana Oximoxi: well..as far as I have read...they have been open to listen what creators would like to change...but now I am not uptodate
Bleu Oleander: so they own the images of your work when you bring it in as textures?
Bleu Oleander: doesn't seem right to me!
Xirana Oximoxi: I think so...but not sure, we pay to upload...
Agatha Macbeth: True that
Xirana Oximoxi: but...if you put your texture on a prim, then sure
Agatha Macbeth: How can we pay for something and it belongs to someone else?
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Moon :)
Bleu Oleander: well, the textures are in your inventory whether on a prim or not
Moon Fargis: greetings
Agatha Macbeth: Good to see you
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Moon
Bleu Oleander: hi Moon
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
--BELL--
Moon Fargis: oh damn these follow me everywhere! ;)
Bleu Oleander: we've been flowered ... yay!
Agatha Macbeth: Ah this feels good
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...I think they have all rights to use them here and also out of SL...with any new aplications that may exist or to be developed in the future..etc.
Xirana Oximoxi: wow...sooo nice!!! :)
Moon Fargis: bing
Agatha Macbeth: Bong
Bleu Oleander: well friends, I have to leave early today
Bleu Oleander: breakfast meeting :)
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Moon Fargis: ok happy breakfast!
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Bleu Oleander: thanks for coming and nice to see you all :)
Agatha Macbeth: (twice)
Xirana Oximoxi: bye Bleu! have a nice Sunday and breakfast :)
Xirana Oximoxi: nice tosee you too
Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Mick
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Mick
Mickorod Renard: hiya folks
Agatha Macbeth: Invasion of the bald men :p
Mickorod Renard: he he
Agatha Macbeth: How is sunday?
Moon Fargis: hi nick
Moon Fargis: mick
Mickorod Renard: hey moon, still have green fingers?
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Looks that way
Moon Fargis: we are not bald, we are aerodynamic
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Mickorod Renard: I second that
Xirana Oximoxi: I learned this idiom last week :)
Agatha Macbeth grins
Xirana Oximoxi: I've been taking all plants inside for the winter
Mickorod Renard: pretty impressive
Agatha Macbeth: Moon is like the grail, he makes the land bloom
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...really nice
Moon Fargis: ahh no i just dont care about gardening and so all grows like it wants ;)
Mickorod Renard: sounds like my rl garden
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Mickorod Renard: raked up the leaves earlier
Xirana Oximoxi: free garden style :)
Agatha Macbeth: I like a garden which is a riot of green
Agatha Macbeth: But at this time of year not so much so :(
Moon Fargis: well, winter can also be nice in the garden, much green plants are still growing in winter
Moon Fargis: hedges and stuff
Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes, plenty of conifers about
Agatha Macbeth: Evergreen makes me think of Barbera streisand
Mickorod Renard: I would love to maintain a steady flow of bloom throughout summer
Agatha Macbeth: So difficult to keep under control tho
Xirana Oximoxi: lol...why Aga?
Agatha Macbeth: So much to cut and prune
Xirana Oximoxi: ahh a song :)
Agatha Macbeth: For one person
Moon Fargis: lol
Mickorod Renard: I have recently copied a list that once was what they used in a stately home for cut flowers through the year
Agatha Macbeth: Oh wow
Agatha Macbeth: Big list I bet
Mickorod Renard: hopefully that will give me a clue what to grow
Mickorod Renard: as it was just up the road from me
Agatha Macbeth: Gardening is great if you have a gardener
Xirana Oximoxi: I will go now, take care all and see you soon! :)
Moon Fargis: lol like cooking is great if you have cook
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Moon Fargis: bye xirana
Mickorod Renard: bye Xir
Xirana Oximoxi: bye :)
Agatha Macbeth: Adios Xira
Mickorod Renard: I have just pulled a cake out the oven
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, seem to be becoming laggy
Agatha Macbeth: Ooh nice Mick
Mickorod Renard: well..microwave
Agatha Macbeth: Christmas cake?
Mickorod Renard: noooo...chocolate cake
Moon Fargis: you microwaved a cake?
Agatha Macbeth: Home cookin
Mickorod Renard: yes, takes 6 minutes to cook
Mickorod Renard: and they turn out perfect
Agatha Macbeth: Great
Mickorod Renard: :)
Moon Fargis: sounds healty ;)
Agatha Macbeth: Do you bake bread too?
Mickorod Renard: no,,too fattening
Mickorod Renard: cake is good though
Agatha Macbeth: Naaw it isn't
Mickorod Renard: and sweets and buscuits
Agatha Macbeth: I love bread
Agatha Macbeth: You sound like Marie antoinette
Mickorod Renard: he he
Mickorod Renard: I like walnut bread
Agatha Macbeth: No wonder she lost her head
Moon Fargis: heh well seems i sadly have to go already too, just wanted to take a quick look if everything is still ok here ;)
Agatha Macbeth: Oh we are still here :)
Agatha Macbeth: Please come more often
Mickorod Renard: it still exists Moon,,if thats what you mean
Moon Fargis: i will try ㋡
Mickorod Renard: nice to see you again
Agatha Macbeth: And brighten the place up
Mickorod Renard: take care
Moon Fargis: will do ㋡ see you soon my friends
Agatha Macbeth: Auf wiedersehen
Mickorod Renard: :)
Moon Fargis: :D
Mickorod Renard: ciao
Agatha Macbeth: Place looks bare now :(
Mickorod Renard: sadly yas
Mickorod Renard: yes*
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: What's Morg up to today?
Mickorod Renard: she has took grandaughter to see her sister
Agatha Macbeth: Aww nice
Agatha Macbeth: Families eh
Mickorod Renard: yes, gave me chance to have a mortorbike ride,,and now watch the grandprix
Agatha Macbeth: Va va voom
Agatha Macbeth: Any good dreams lately?
Mickorod Renard: I thught there may be a guardian meeting
Agatha Macbeth: No, next week
Mickorod Renard: no,,not remembering dreams that well lately
Agatha Macbeth: Oh don't say that!
Agatha Macbeth: You're our mainstay
Mickorod Renard: he he ,,I have one just in case
Agatha Macbeth: Phew
Mickorod Renard: I will try and recall tonites
Agatha Macbeth: That's a relief
Agatha Macbeth: Don't want Maxine to leave Kira too!
Mickorod Renard: has someone left?
Agatha Macbeth: Well there's nothing happens there anymore really
Agatha Macbeth: Think only dreams is left
Mickorod Renard: ahh I see,,yes,,I do miss the activities
Agatha Macbeth: Doesn't look like KISS is coming back
Mickorod Renard: wok and i ching were fun
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Mickorod Renard: I was looking at another site yesterday
Agatha Macbeth: Science seems to have all but disappeared from SL sadly :(
Mickorod Renard: ran by Rhia
Agatha Macbeth: Oh?
Agatha Macbeth: The philosophy thing?
Mickorod Renard: yes, a sort of philo group
Mickorod Renard: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Her usual one?
Agatha Macbeth: Or another one?
Mickorod Renard: well,,i never really did any of hers,,just one or two,,but latest stuff looks interesting
Agatha Macbeth: Oh will look at that
Mickorod Renard: moral ethics n stuff
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like a regular minefield
Agatha Macbeth: TY
Mickorod Renard: yes, maybe its her usual stuff I dont know,,but I am getting desperate for stimulating stuff
Agatha Macbeth: Yes I have been looking to new stuff
Mickorod Renard: we could try and start a new one,,maybe with bruce and perhaps pila
Agatha Macbeth: I think that's what is behind Liz's initiative for PaB to branch out
Mickorod Renard: yes?
Agatha Macbeth: Could start WoK up again maybe
Mickorod Renard: well,,we could do,,and perhaps incorporate some of Pema's work that accompanied tsk
Agatha Macbeth: Come to next week's GM and we'll discuss it :p
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Mickorod Renard: ok,,I will try and make it
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Mickorod Renard: yipee
Agatha Macbeth: Your input would be valuable
Mickorod Renard: erm,,I doubt it
Mickorod Renard: but I will try
Agatha Macbeth: Course it is!
Mickorod Renard: ty :)
Agatha Macbeth: Everybody's input is important
Mickorod Renard: thing is,,I have no traiining in it all,,Bruce I think is an expert,
Agatha Macbeth: Someone may come along with a big idea
Agatha Macbeth: Brucie rocks
Agatha Macbeth: Think he gets his ideas from Blub :p
Mickorod Renard: yes, he started a little link with me the other day
Agatha Macbeth: Oh good
Agatha Macbeth: Every little helps
Agatha Macbeth: Little acorns and all that
Mickorod Renard: and i think it has some wider scope
Agatha Macbeth: Great
Mickorod Renard: it sort of hinges on making right choices
Agatha Macbeth: Hopefully we'll hear more
Mickorod Renard: ok
Agatha Macbeth: Well doesn't everything? ;-)
Mickorod Renard: I will see if Bruce may be interested
Agatha Macbeth: I usually make the wrong ones heh
Mickorod Renard: well,,sometimes choices are made for diferent reasons,,and they are often flawed because of greed or whatever
Agatha Macbeth: Oh of course
Agatha Macbeth: I think most decisions are made from naked self interest, but not all
Agatha Macbeth: Like who you vote for
Mickorod Renard: yes, but often with some compassion
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Mickorod Renard: I think its an interesting topic that most struggle with from time to time
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, we can always hope
Mickorod Renard: now then,,I have to go and attend to things Ags
Agatha Macbeth: OK
Agatha Macbeth: Love to Morg...and Rupert
Agatha Macbeth: Hope your cake turns out well
Mickorod Renard: kk,,you take care now,,,and i will chat to Bruce too
Mickorod Renard: :)) ty
Agatha Macbeth: Great!
Mickorod Renard: ok c u soon
Agatha Macbeth: Take care