2015.04.11 14:00 - GUARDIAN MEETING

The Guardian for this meeting was Bleu Oleander. The comments are by Bleu Oleander who did her best to moderate for Eliza ... hope you feel better soon.

BEGINNING OF GUARDIAN MEETING:

Bruce Mowbray: OH! I almost forgot about the Guardian meeting! thank you for reminding us.
Bleu Oleander: Eliza has the flu and may not be here today
Aphrodite Macbain: aww kk
Bruce Mowbray: wait a minute. it's going to be right here isn't it?
Bruce Mowbray: no wonder so many people are showing up!
Bleu Oleander: so I can claim this after your session ends Bruce
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bruce Mowbray: yes claim it now!
Bruce Mowbray: thank you.
Bleu Oleander: kk
Eden Haiku: Hope she gets well soon, waving to you (((Eliza)))
--BELL--
Bruce Mowbray: Healing thoughts to you, dear Eliza!
Riddle Sideways: get well, Eliza
Bleu Oleander: yes!
Lucinda Lavender: yes!
Bleu Oleander: shall we start?
Bruce Mowbray: I'm ready.
Mickorod Renard: me too

Bleu Oleander: I'm moderating for Eliza today

Bruce Mowbray listens.

TRANSITION TO NEW PAB LAND

Bleu Oleander: so first order ... we made the transition! from huge sim to our new PaB plots

Eden Haiku: Will be on my best behavior Bleu :)

Bleu Oleander: Wol is the new owner
Aphrodite Macbain: yippeee
Bleu Oleander: along with Storm and Pema
Bruce Mowbray: 
Aphrodite Macbain: It's not even Apr 14
Bleu Oleander: who will fade back a bit
Bruce Mowbray: 
Lucinda Lavender: amazing...thanks to storm for returning all my lost buns:)
Bruce Mowbray: only three more days.
Bleu Oleander: everything will be complete on tuesday
Eden Haiku: A smootyh transition
Aphrodite Macbain: storm has been very efficient
Xirana Oximoxi: 's current display-name is "Xirana".
Bruce Mowbray: beware the Ides of April...
Mickorod Renard: Hi Xir

WORKING GROUP

Bleu Oleander: We would like to start up the working group again
Bleu Oleander: hi Wol
Mickorod Renard: Hi Wol
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Xir!
Wol Euler: evening all
Bleu Oleander: hi Xiri
Aphrodite Macbain: Hey Wol
Lucinda Lavender: hi wol
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Wol.
Riddle Sideways: hi Xir
Riddle Sideways: hi Wol
Bleu Oleander: just beginning our GM
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Xiri
Lucinda Lavender: iri
Lucinda Lavender: xiri
Xirana Oximoxi: hello everyone! :)
Eden Haiku: Hello Wol and Xiri!
Bleu Oleander: just saying that you have been made an owner for PaB group land along with Storm and Pema
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: fear my power!
Wol Euler: mwaaahahhahah
Bleu Oleander: transition will be complete tuesday, right?
Bleu Oleander: lol
Lucinda Lavender: super
Wol Euler: so I understand, yes
Bleu Oleander: Storm will drop the remaining land
Bleu Oleander: so we would like to start up the working group again
Bleu Oleander: to manage group land issues
Bleu Oleander: its been a while ...
Aphrodite Macbain: good idea
Riddle Sideways: to oversee Wol?
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.
Bleu Oleander: so please let us know if you would like to volunteer for it
Bleu Oleander: lol
Qt Core: (first issue collecting the money for next month rent ;-) )
Aphrodite Macbain: perhaps we should review the roles of those on the WG
Bleu Oleander: we will also need a landscaping committee
Bleu Oleander: to help with the common areas
Riddle Sideways: Xir, your mic is on

PAVILION DESIGN PROJECT

Bleu Oleander: the pavilion design project starts this week
Bleu Oleander: a new design every month, starting on the 15th
Bleu Oleander: I'll keep photos on the wiki and in the art gallery

Aphrodite Macbain: perfect

Bleu Oleander: sometime this fall when all have been shown we'll vote
Bleu Oleander: so make comments and kick the tires
Bruce Mowbray: sounds good to moi.
Aphrodite Macbain: How many are planning to submit?
Bleu Oleander: Darren - two
Bleu Oleander: me - two
Aphrodite Macbain: ah more than one each
Bleu Oleander: San - one I think
Bleu Oleander: maybe a couple of others
Bleu Oleander: if you want to design one, let me know
Bleu Oleander: and I'll put you on the schedule
Bleu Oleander: so far it looks like 5 or 6
Mickorod Renard: I dont think i can as a non land owner...and maybe its for the best
Bleu Oleander: anyone can
Bleu Oleander: just design one
Shufei Zenith: :>
Mickorod Renard: dont I need a sandpit or something?
Bleu Oleander: hi Shufei
Wol Euler: anyone can contribute, Mick. Go ahead
Xirana Oximoxi: Wol, first thanks for taking the ownership responsability :)....will you send again the link to send the money for the rent? I did not take note of it and not sure I will be able to find it now :)
Shufei Zenith waves shyly.
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Shufei
Bleu Oleander: there are sandboxes all over
Wol Euler: there are dozens of sandboxes around SL, Mick, that need not be a problem
Mickorod Renard: Hi Shuffle
Wol Euler: just watch the return time. Don't rely on leaving stuff out while you have lunch.
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)

GROUP LAND BIZ

Bleu Oleander: so maybe now might be a good time for Wol .... do you need to talk about the group land Wol?
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Shuffle -- I see that you and I both miss the Museum of Sacred Art.
Aphrodite Macbain listens to Wol
Eden Haiku: listens
Bruce Mowbray listens for more from Wol.
Wol Euler: I'm not sure what there is to say, Bleu :) It exists, we are on it, I'm already contributing tier to cover it. Storm will make the switchover midweek.
Bleu Oleander: and you'll stay in touch with those contributing via email?
Aphrodite Macbain: Have you received all the land group donations Wol?
Wol Euler: I have received something like seven or eight months' of tier payments from donors.
Wol Euler: which is to say, NOT all.
Bruce Mowbray: and it does not matter which currency we use to make payments in PayPal to Wol, Wol?
Lucinda Lavender: ah..I want to make a payment...
Wol Euler: not at all
Aphrodite Macbain: I paid for the whole year- makes it simpler
Lucinda Lavender: sorry if I have forgotten
Xirana Oximoxi: I have not sent but will do it ...I will try to find the email :)
Wol Euler: yes, I'd prefer that if possible
Bruce Mowbray: me too, full year.
Lucinda Lavender: I will too
Aphrodite Macbain: For me it's only $25
Qt Core: (guilty, will recheck mail for how to do it)
Aphrodite Macbain: you all need a PayPal account, no?
Riddle Sideways: also guilty, will send soon
Lucinda Lavender: who do I look up in Paypal?
Lucinda Lavender: what name?
Bleu Oleander: there is a group land email list right?
Wol Euler: me. "wol.euler@yahoo.de"
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, you'll need a PayPal account to make payments to Wol.
Xirana Oximoxi: ok...thank you very much
Aphrodite Macbain: then u go into your account
Bleu Oleander: is everyone who is contributing on the email list?
Aphrodite Macbain: and pay wol via that email
Qt Core: brb (not not going to pay this moment) ;-)
Wol Euler: :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Wol Euler: I received one large payment from somebody whose initials are "DR", who I cannot with certainty associate with any SL avatar. If they could identify themselves to me *privately* please ...
Aphrodite Macbain: I dont know Bleu
Aphrodite Macbain: it's the land list
Bleu Oleander: right
Bleu Oleander: anything else Wol?
Wol Euler: not at the moment
Bleu Oleander: kk

WORKING GROUP, LANDSCAPE COMMITTEE, BUILDERS

Bleu Oleander: so working group ... anyone interested?
Bleu Oleander: its a 6mo term
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: initially probably more to do
Wol Euler: interested, yes, but I cannot commit to it. My working life is too chaotic.
Bleu Oleander: understand and thanks for all you are doing!
Bleu Oleander: we'll put out an email request
Aphrodite Macbain: thank you Wol - it's a big responsibility
Bleu Oleander: we will also need a landscape committee
Bleu Oleander: for the common area
Bleu Oleander: once we decide on the pavilion
Bleu Oleander: and may need some other spaces built as well
Bleu Oleander: i'll put out a notice for that too
Bleu Oleander: any of you interested?
Aphrodite Macbain: yes1
Xirana Oximoxi: we should decide how many places or buildings we need
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: we'll start with the pavilion
Bleu Oleander: we have an art of being space
Aphrodite Macbain: I was thinking it would be nice to protect our northern flank with very tall trees
Bleu Oleander: Eliza will do a retreat area
Riddle Sideways: let's see, that would involve art, taste and decisions ... not me
Bleu Oleander: lol
Aphrodite Macbain: Riddle :/
Xirana Oximoxi: maybe you surprise yourself and all Rid :)...if you try :)
Lucinda Lavender: Luci is very busy and not really skilled in anything but I would participate where ever you think I would have something to add
Bleu Oleander: so we may need a village hall type building
Bleu Oleander: maybe east of here
Bleu Oleander: but for now we can use the pavilions
Aphrodite Macbain: Is there enough space Bleu?
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eden Haiku: Thanks for organizing Bleu. Unfortunately I have so much work right now, I cannot help much. Next summer, I will be more available.
Aphrodite Macbain: great
Bleu Oleander: big space to our east
Aphrodite Macbain: good
Bleu Oleander: so pavilion can go here
Bleu Oleander: and maybe one other east of here
Aphrodite Macbain: nods

Riddle Sideways: not sure why a big building for a every other week meeting
Bleu Oleander: some sky spaces possible too
Aphrodite Macbain: whatever uses the prims most effectively
Bleu Oleander: well it seems a change of space is good for different purposes
Bleu Oleander: the pavilion is primarily for sessions

Eden Haiku: Or sitting around a fire in a prairie?
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: can design any space
Bruce Mowbray: Could we not entrust some of those decisions to a building committee? -- I mean, about sky spaces and the size of a Village Hall, etc?
Bleu Oleander: nice to change from the pavilion I think
Aphrodite Macbain: I wish there were a way of blocking out the sight of all these tall ugly buildings
Bleu Oleander: yes, sure Bruce
Wol Euler: reduce your draw distance :)
Aphrodite Macbain: yes- but it's good to hear people's opinions
Bleu Oleander: I don't even see them
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Bruce Mowbray: for sure it is, Aph.
Bruce Mowbray: I don't see them either, Bleu.
Bleu Oleander: I think screens are ugly and a last resort, what do you all think?
Bleu Oleander: we had screens on the old land
Wol Euler: agreed
Mickorod Renard: maybe some buildings could morph from one to another at the touch of a button..and reduce prim
Aphrodite Macbain goes into her preferences and reduces her draw distances
Xirana Oximoxi: yes, me too
Lucinda Lavender: dont see them either
Bleu Oleander: actually those temp rez buildings cause lag
Aphrodite Macbain: yayy it worked :-)
Mickorod Renard: ok bleu
Bruce Mowbray: :) !!
Xirana Oximoxi: great, Aph! :)
Bleu Oleander: but we can see what we need
Aphrodite Macbain: what a relief!
Bleu Oleander: may be tradeoffs
Bleu Oleander: lol
Aphrodite Macbain: things can be so simple
Aphrodite Macbain: sometimes

Bleu Oleander: ok so next on Eliza's list ... :)

Eden Haiku: :)

GRIEFERS

Bleu Oleander: Griefers

Bruce Mowbray: oh dear.
Bleu Oleander: we had a major one this week
Aphrodite Macbain: drown them all
Bruce Mowbray: we surely did!
Bleu Oleander: so we need to make sure our land is set right
Aphrodite Macbain: nods
Riddle Sideways: was really an attack on the neighbor sim, but got us too
Bleu Oleander: set rez objects to group only
Aphrodite Macbain: we each do it with our own plot
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: but group land too
Aphrodite Macbain: who does that?
Aphrodite Macbain: Wol?
Eden Haiku: Ok tks
Bleu Oleander: and return object to 1 not 0
Bruce Mowbray: where do we make that setting - when we're actually rezzing something -- or right now?
Aphrodite Macbain: where Bleu?
Bleu Oleander: and running scripts only group
Mickorod Renard: once when I owned my own place I had it set up propper but a good griefer can still get in
Bleu Oleander: on the about land
Aphrodite Macbain: r World?
Bleu Oleander: yes Mick
Bleu Oleander: but its a start
Mickorod Renard: yes
Bleu Oleander: if the object is on our land those with the power to return objects can eject it
Mickorod Renard: my griefer set particle emitters going
Bleu Oleander: but we all can file abuse reports
Bleu Oleander: under help
Bleu Oleander: or click on the object
Wol Euler: yes, the more reports the better
Aphrodite Macbain: set to grouo: 75
Bruce Mowbray: kk, a bit slower, please.... WHERE and WHEN do we make those settings?
Bleu Oleander: it will search for the name of the offender
Bleu Oleander: and take a pic
Aphrodite Macbain: Under world
Bleu Oleander: and send it in
Aphrodite Macbain: then about land
Bleu Oleander: under help
Wol Euler: in your own land, Bruce
Bleu Oleander: either click on the offensive object and report
Aphrodite Macbain: he doesnt own land
Bruce Mowbray: kk, since I have no land, I'm cool, then.
Bleu Oleander: or under help
Wol Euler: right
Bleu Oleander: you can still file a report
Bruce Mowbray: kk, ty.
Bleu Oleander: any sl person can file an abuse report
Aphrodite Macbain: what was the name of that offending griefer?
Bleu Oleander: it helps if more than one do
Aphrodite Macbain: Corvus?
Aphrodite Macbain: Bleu -what was the name of that offending griefer?
Bleu Oleander: I can't remember
Aphrodite Macbain: k
Bleu Oleander: its in the emails
Aphrodite Macbain: I thought I had set it but it doesnt appear
Aphrodite Macbain: k
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: Lucian Corvians?
Xirana Oximoxi: yes..I saw his/her name in an email
Bleu Oleander: maybe?
Bleu Oleander: so you can ban him
Bleu Oleander: but he probably won't be back :)
Xirana Oximoxi: usually griefers come back with new avatars...it happens at Virtlandis too
Bleu Oleander: main thing is to file a report
Aphrodite Macbain: I think I filed three
Bleu Oleander: this one was an older avatar
Xirana Oximoxi: Virtlandis = language learning sim
Bleu Oleander: but yes most are a few days old
Bleu Oleander: so we couldn't do much because the object was in Jeju sim
Bleu Oleander: next to ours
Aphrodite Macbain: How can they cause such destruction only after a few days?
Bleu Oleander: yes
Wol Euler: well, it's not their first avatar, Aph :)
Aphrodite Macbain: ah
Aphrodite Macbain: of course
Aphrodite Macbain: duh
Riddle Sideways: :)
Bleu Oleander: btw, there is an info card in the easels here by the pavilion
Bleu Oleander: same one we had
Aphrodite Macbain: great
Aphrodite Macbain: for new visitors
Bleu Oleander: so any questions or comments to consider?
Wol Euler smiles.
Shufei Zenith: Just wanted to say it is good to see you kids here! I was surprised and pleased.

WORKING GROUP

Aphrodite Macbain: It would be useful to describe the responsibilities of the WG
Bleu Oleander: well
Bleu Oleander: that's kinda up to the new WG
Xirana Oximoxi: thanks Shufei :)
Aphrodite Macbain: thanks Shufei
Riddle Sideways: thanks Shufei
Shufei Zenith: :>
Bleu Oleander: basically handle stuff that comes up
Eden Haiku: :)
Bleu Oleander: and appoint new guardians
Bruce Mowbray: find wrinkles and iron them.
Aphrodite Macbain: there used to be traditional roles

Bleu Oleander: propbably look at the PaB group roles and permissions

Riddle Sideways: Bleu, Eliza will be proud how you keep coming back to that subject

Shufei Zenith: If there's anything I and other folks in Meium can do to help, please im?
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Bleu Oleander: lol Riddle
Aphrodite Macbain: thanks Shufei
Bleu Oleander: ty!
Riddle Sideways: ty
Bleu Oleander: we can structure things the way we want
Wol Euler smiles at Shufei
Bleu Oleander: need to get a posse together :)
Bleu Oleander: for a WG
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: :-) I think it is the time commitment that may be the issue
Bleu Oleander: and a landscaping group
Bleu Oleander: well WG isn't that time hungry
Aphrodite Macbain: shall we say by next Saturday?
Bleu Oleander: maybe once a month?
Aphrodite Macbain: we should volunteer?
Bleu Oleander: Eliza or I will send out an email
Bleu Oleander: yes Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: kk
Bleu Oleander: we haven't had one in a year
Aphrodite Macbain: I know
Bleu Oleander: so need to start now
Aphrodite Macbain: asap
Bleu Oleander: we'll need to review the group roles and permissions
Aphrodite Macbain: but we need a deadline
Bruce Mowbray agrees.
Bleu Oleander: maybe form new roles
Aphrodite Macbain: cool
Bleu Oleander: so will be fun .... :)
Eden Haiku: :)
Bruce Mowbray ponders varieties of possible roles.
Aphrodite Macbain: I wonder what will replace the molecule theatre....
Bruce Mowbray: me too, Aph.
Bleu Oleander: well we need builders, janitors, landscapers, etc.
Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Aphrodite Macbain: janitors?
Bruce Mowbray: chimney sweepers?
Bleu Oleander: Storm's old job :)
Aphrodite Macbain looks to see if she has a mop and broom in her inventory
Riddle Sideways: anarchists?
Aphrodite Macbain and is glad she cant find any
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: pool skimmers?
Lucinda Lavender: I wish you need piebakers
Bleu Oleander: there is some work to set up the additional spaces
Aphrodite Macbain: lol Luci
Bleu Oleander: sky spaces maybe
Bruce Mowbray: Do not confuse anarchy with freedom, nor kindness with weakness.
Wol Euler: I would encourage moderation and restraint in suggesting new roles. E.g. it hardly seems worth creating a role for "griefer event fixer" when we have on average less than one griefer event per year.
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Adams!
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Adams
Wol Euler: hello adams!
Eden Haiku: hello Adams :-)
Mickorod Renard: Hi Adams
Aphrodite Macbain: there's a cushion for you
Riddle Sideways: Hi Adamss
Bleu Oleander: right Wol, need only some with the right permissions
Adams Dubrovna: Hello everyone :)

ART MUSEUM

Bleu Oleander: hi Adams
Xirana Oximoxi: do we still keep in mind to save some space and prims just in case Adams would like to use it for her sacred Art Museum?
Shufei Zenith: :D Howdy do, Adams.
Bruce Mowbray: (no chimneys, Wol?)
Aphrodite Macbain: I hope we can Xiri
Xirana Oximoxi: ahh Adams is here :)
Adams Dubrovna: yes I am here :)
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Bruce Mowbray: HERE Adams is!
Shufei Zenith hands Adams a peppermint.
Bleu Oleander: Adams, what are your plans for the museum now?
Adams Dubrovna: This morning my tjhoughts began to evolve a little. I am thinking the new museum will not be limited to sacred art.
Adams Dubrovna: The exhibit I am working on is not sacred
Aphrodite Macbain pays very close attention
Adams Dubrovna: Shanamahs
Bruce Mowbray ponders the possibilities of Adams and Eden being here at the same time.... and a sacred art museum in the mix.
Bruce Mowbray sits on hands and listens.
Shufei Zenith: If you do it, it will be sacred. :>
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Adams Dubrovna: but I still have things to get done in RL
Bruce Mowbray: awww. DARN that ol' RL.
Adams Dubrovna: :)
Riddle Sideways: :)
Wol Euler: heheheh
Xirana Oximoxi: :) no hurry :)

Bleu Oleander: Adams, where will you want the museum and how many prims do you think you'll need?
Bleu Oleander: we might need to know while planning the space

--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: those two pink posts east of here mark the end of the group land
Bleu Oleander: can you see them?
Adams Dubrovna: Not at the moment but I will explore
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Riddle Sideways: nice posts
Bleu Oleander: just behind you Adams
Bleu Oleander: :) Riddle
Aphrodite Macbain: Lots of room
Bleu Oleander: well designed lol
Adams Dubrovna: on prims possibly 400-600 which is probably greedy but I am working on doing things with fewer prims
Bleu Oleander: well our space has 1933
Riddle Sideways: try doing a 1 prim mess musium :)
Adams Dubrovna: looking at new one prim slideshows for one
Riddle Sideways: mesh
Bleu Oleander: great
Adams Dubrovna: ha Riddle. probablyk could be done but not with my skills
Xirana Oximoxi: in my view we have really enouhg to build pavilion, gardens and more
Aphrodite Macbain: good idea
Bleu Oleander: yes Xiri
Bleu Oleander: if build right, we can so several spaces
Aphrodite Macbain: -using a 1 proim slideshow
Eden Haiku: That's great!
Xirana Oximoxi: yes :)

ART OF BEING  (LM's to all levels are in the notecard in the sign out front)

Bleu Oleander: In my plot I have 5 levels of builds up now
Bruce Mowbray: omg!
Bleu Oleander: and still some prims left over
Adams Dubrovna: One possibility would be a smaller museum here and a larger one somewhere else linked by tps
Xirana Oximoxi: wow :)
Bleu Oleander: so take a looks
Bleu Oleander: LM's in the sign out front
Aphrodite Macbain: but you still have the same prim limit dont you?
Bleu Oleander: I have only the prims for my small space
Bleu Oleander: with is like a double 512 space
Bleu Oleander: a little over 200
Aphrodite Macbain: nods and you managed to create 5 levels!
Bruce Mowbray: WOW!
Aphrodite Macbain is impressed
Bruce Mowbray: me too!
Bleu Oleander: yes take a look
Eden Haiku: Will do!
Aphrodite Macbain: It's beautiful
Bleu Oleander: not the finished product but getting there
Aphrodite Macbain: I love the meeting space on level 2
Xirana Oximoxi: will go visit soon too:)
Bleu Oleander: yes me too lol
Eden Haiku: Do you mean skyboxes as well Bleu?
Bleu Oleander: sky platforms
Xirana Oximoxi: are there teleporters Bleu or we must fly?
Bleu Oleander: use the LM's on the notecard from the sign out front
Aphrodite Macbain: yes Eden
Eden Haiku: Oh, didn,t venture that high :)
Bleu Oleander: LM's on the card
Xirana Oximoxi: ok:)
Bleu Oleander: I don't have tp's set up yet
Bleu Oleander: so use the card
Xirana Oximoxi: no problem, that's perfect
Mickorod Renard: how many prims do say an art texture take up? its only a bit isnt it?
Bleu Oleander: its quick and dirty atm lol
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Bleu Oleander: like a photo Mick?
Mickorod Renard: yes
Bleu Oleander: one prim
Eden Haiku: Me too!
Mickorod Renard: so room for lots of Adams' work

Bleu Oleander: so I will put up photos of our pavilion designs there
Bleu Oleander: so I'm under my prim limit atm lol
Shufei Zenith: I love the place Stormy put the bodhisattva exhibit, Adams.
Bleu Oleander: yes lovely
Bleu Oleander: Storm's land
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...and with slideshows it can be more textures and less prims too
Riddle Sideways: yes, so glad it stayed
Shufei Zenith nods!
Adams Dubrovna: still a little fine tuning to do there but it fit the new space like a glove
Bleu Oleander: wonderful!
Xirana Oximoxi: a must visit asap too :)
Wol Euler smiles.
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm so glad
Bleu Oleander: so its coming together :)
Bleu Oleander sighs
Riddle Sideways: smiles
Aphrodite Macbain: yes- a new beginning
Riddle Sideways: again
Bleu Oleander: so our first pavilion design goes on display tuesday for viewing and using for one month
Aphrodite Macbain: spring is a perfect time for it
Bleu Oleander: each 15th of the month a new one
Adams Dubrovna: will the pavilions be on this spot?
Bleu Oleander: for 5-7 months or so
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: we'll use them each for one month
Bleu Oleander: collect comments etc
Bleu Oleander: then vote
Xirana Oximoxi: ok :)
Riddle Sideways: how many votes do each of us get?
Bleu Oleander: keep in mind that we may even choose to combine a couple if the designer are willing
Bleu Oleander: :) Riddle

PAVILIONS and OTHER MEETING SPACES

Mickorod Renard: does there need to be a stipulated amount of size/prim usage per pavilion agreed?
Wol Euler: the comments are *at least* as important as the votes.
Bleu Oleander: well this space is under 30 sq meters
Wol Euler: make and share notes
Riddle Sideways: ?
Bleu Oleander: and is only 30 prims
Mickorod Renard: wow
Bleu Oleander: including seats and fountain
Wol Euler: you mean 30x30 metres?
Bleu Oleander: yes
Aphrodite Macbain: are we looking for a space that can be expanded to become a place for more?
Bleu Oleander: footprint
Riddle Sideways: 900
Bleu Oleander: what do you mean Aph?
Wol Euler: so 900 square metres. (I am an architect, we do numerical pedantry)
Aphrodite Macbain: more people attending
Aphrodite Macbain: tho it looks like we can have a Guardian meeting here comfortably
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Bleu Oleander: this one is about 26 x 26 and 30 prims
Bleu Oleander: all my designs are well under 100 prims
Riddle Sideways: like the old one the small 6 pillows and the bigger 2 row
Bleu Oleander: eventually we won't use the pavilion for GM
Bleu Oleander: will be nice to have a space for those
Bleu Oleander: maybe a sky space
Aphrodite Macbain: why not Bleu?
Eden Haiku: That,s an art Bleu, to be able to do so much with so little prim counts :)
Bleu Oleander: context affects conversations
Aphrodite Macbain: couldbe used for the GM as well as the WG
Bleu Oleander: if we keep this for sessions it will be special
Mickorod Renard: perhaps the GM could be on an upper floor of the pavillion?
Xirana Oximoxi: and it's fun to change place too :)
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: I'm not in favor of one building for everything
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: fun to switch moods via environment
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm am just thinking about having enuf prims
Eden Haiku: I agree. Different spaces convey different conversations...
Lucinda Lavender: see things in new ways
Bleu Oleander: we have enought prims
Aphrodite Macbain: with the museum?
Xirana Oximoxi: yes:)
Mickorod Renard: and gardens
Bleu Oleander: can even use art of being spaces for WG or guardian mts
Xirana Oximoxi: yes, with the museum too
Aphrodite Macbain: yes- I think that would be great Bleu
Bleu Oleander: we can all use the art of being spaces
Aphrodite Macbain: It makes sense
Bleu Oleander: for everyone
Bleu Oleander: use them
Eden Haiku: How nice, thank you Bleu :)
Aphrodite Macbain: otherwise how else would you use the 2nd floor? ;_)
Xirana Oximoxi: this is only 30 prims...and we have 1300
Bleu Oleander: its open to all
Bleu Oleander: right Aph lol
Lucinda Lavender: so very great
Bleu Oleander: we have 1933
Bleu Oleander: this is only 30
Bleu Oleander: trees and flowers need some
Xirana Oximoxi: I did not count the 600 of the Museum :)
Bleu Oleander: ok :)
Bleu Oleander: so we have space and prims
Aphrodite Macbain: an embarrassment of riches
Mickorod Renard: just a q on the finances...is it likely we will have enough money?
Xirana Oximoxi: haha yes:))
Riddle Sideways: little pebble walkways
Bleu Oleander: but we had 15,000 before
Bleu Oleander: so a come down
Aphrodite Macbain: money for what Riddle?
Xirana Oximoxi: but we will be more close :)
Aphrodite Macbain: I mean Mick
Mickorod Renard: to sustain our outgoings
Bleu Oleander: we need to keep sight lines in mind too
Aphrodite Macbain: ?
Bleu Oleander: now that we're smaller
Bleu Oleander: its nice to have LL protected land on the south
Aphrodite Macbain: You mean if we have to buy trees etc? Mick?
Adams Dubrovna: If you do not know about ArchiTech Design makes very nice low prim trees and plants
Bleu Oleander: between us all we have zillions of trees and flowers
Aphrodite Macbain: thanks Adams
Mickorod Renard: I guess so, i just meant ..do we need more contributors?
Adams Dubrovna: lots of them 1 prim
Bleu Oleander: and we can build anything :)
Eden Haiku: Zillions :)
Bleu Oleander: I just made a 1 prim path that we can use
Bleu Oleander: if you like
Aphrodite Macbain: is Wol covered?
Bleu Oleander: its free
Aphrodite Macbain: you mean?
Mickorod Renard: yeh,,is wol covered
Wol Euler: ????
Bleu Oleander: we talked about tier earlier
Aphrodite Macbain: Hopefully when everyone pays their committed contribution
Wol Euler: indeed
Mickorod Renard: great
Bruce Mowbray nods.
Aphrodite Macbain: thanks for asking
Bleu Oleander: so we could put different levels over this space
Bleu Oleander: like I did for Art of Being
Aphrodite Macbain: we could
Aphrodite Macbain: when needed
Bleu Oleander: yes
Aphrodite Macbain: we may not need the space all the time
Lucinda Lavender: like a wg meeting space?
Bleu Oleander: don't want it to be too crowded on the ground
Aphrodite Macbain: but if we have a retreat or a WG meeting we could rez one
Bleu Oleander: wg can use the art of being space too
Aphrodite Macbain: right
Lucinda Lavender: ok
Bleu Oleander: Eliza will do a retreat space
Riddle Sideways: rez when needed
Mickorod Renard: is there the poetry session too?..needing a venue?
Qt Core: i need to go, bye all
Riddle Sideways: just add magic
Aphrodite Macbain: /mew thinks about horror vacui
Adams Dubrovna: bye QT
Bruce Mowbray: bye for now, Qt!
Xirana Oximoxi: bye Qt! :)
Bleu Oleander: so some of our spaces are being built by individuals not using group prims
Mickorod Renard: bye qt
Eden Haiku: Bye Qt!
Bleu Oleander: bye Qt
Riddle Sideways: by QT
Bruce Mowbray: bye, Aph.
Aphrodite Macbain: I should go too
Wol Euler: bye qt
Lucinda Lavender: bfn qt
Wol Euler: I have to move off too, it's midnight
Aphrodite Macbain: bye everyone
Mickorod Renard: bye aph
Bleu Oleander: so anything else?
Wol Euler: goodnight, take care, send me your money.
Adams Dubrovna: bye those leaving
Bleu Oleander: lol
Riddle Sideways: :)

Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks for chairing Bleu!
Mickorod Renard: bye wol
Bleu Oleander: phew
Lucinda Lavender: Luci has to turn the oven temp down on the rhubarb pie
Bleu Oleander: hopes Eliza get well soon
Aphrodite Macbain: great job!
Xirana Oximoxi: good night Wol! I will :)
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Eden Haiku: Bye everyone. Thank you Bleu!
Bleu Oleander: kk nite all
Riddle Sideways: thanks All
Mickorod Renard: bye eden
Mickorod Renard: bye riddle