2015.04.14 13:00 - Context and Reality

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    leaping Panther (darren.islar): bell ... shut up
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): Hey Xira
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hello leaping :)
    Ava (avaline.decuir): Hello Xirana
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hello Ava
    Ava (avaline.decuir): Hey Bruce
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): hey Blub ... oh, and Bruce
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hello Br
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): Bruce :)
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Hello, Xir, and Darren, and Ava!
     leaping Panther (darren.islar): hey Elan
    Elan (elanvitalo): Heya, everyone!
    Ava (avaline.decuir): Hey Elan
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hello Elan

    leaping Panther (darren.islar): is there someone who likes to share a topic?
    Elan (elanvitalo): Well, I've just listened to a talk at a Buddhist center -- in which the speaker said "Buddhist practice is about learning to shed out contexts..." or something like that.
    Elan (elanvitalo): contexts.. let me find the exact quote, just a sec, please.
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I was thinking about 'failing' understood as not succeding to reach goals these days... maybe it can be a topic
    Elan (elanvitalo): ("Dr. Dunne continues his talk by looking deeply at our understanding of context, emphasizing that a central theme of Buddhism is “learning how to be free of context.”"): http://www.upaya.org/2015/03/john-du...+Meditation%29
    Elan (elanvitalo): /me ponders "failing" -- a good topic, Xir.
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): whispers: both good topics, failing and context
    Ava (avaline.decuir): surely though, Budhhism itself is context
    Elan (elanvitalo): Is it, really....  or is Buddhism more of pathless path -- and context-free context?
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): to be free of context pressure can be related to 'failing' too
    Ava (avaline.decuir): when you give a shape to something it gives it context ... simply by saying prayers each day .. or meditating in a certain way .. or on certain deities .. you give context to your practice

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    Elan (elanvitalo): wow!  Woly got the dropper fixed!
     leaping Panther (darren.islar): yes, there is a bridge to be made between the two, but I still think it's two different topics. I need to say Elan I will need to read or hear it before I can understand what he means, being a Buddhist I have an idea, but context is in itself a really good topic
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): yes!! and with an amazing precisions of seconds :)
    Elan (elanvitalo) nods.
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): hehe
    Elan (elanvitalo): I also want to listen to the talk again....
    Elan (elanvitalo): :)
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): the mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm is an accident
    Ava (avaline.decuir): The concept of nothingness could be close to being without context but we can't live our lives in nothingness otherwise what is the point of being alive?
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): :)
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Is it necessary to have a context in order to " fail"?  I feel that it is.
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): creating your own context is interesting
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): good question! :) I would say YES
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): as for myself, every meditation session involves a moving in and out of context...
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): about nothingness, that's not Buddhism, it's emptiness and actually not a good word, since it doesn't mean there is nothing
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): my mind wanders,  and I return, again and again..
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): so it's a sort of shift in and out of context,  if I making any sense.
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): and out of context is when you return to yourself
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): or to your mindful state

    leaping Panther (darren.islar): hey Wol
    Wol Euler: evening all
    Ava (avaline.decuir): hey Wol
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hello Wol! :)
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Heya, Wol!
    Elan (elanvitalo): Hey, Wol!
    Wol Euler: what's the word?

    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): yes,  but first I need to be aware that I'm out of it....
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): can you get out of context?

    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): The word is YOU GOT THE DROPPER fixed!
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Yayyy!
    Wol Euler smiles modestly.

    leaping Panther (darren.islar): we are talking about context and on the side 'failure', but I think that goes to another session

    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Now, let's see if you also got the auto recorder fixed....
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): auto logger,  I mean.
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): I could claim it
    Wol Euler: it isn't broken, is it?`

    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): we can get out of contex, reading a book, coming to Sl..
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): listens.
    Ava (avaline.decuir): surely context is what we choose it to be at any given moment?
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): yes, isn't SL a context in itself?
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): or a book, or a fantasy or whatever
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): sometimes we can not choose
    Elan (elanvitalo) listens carefully.
    Ava (avaline.decuir): Í would say we always choose ... the basic conctext might be provided by someone else but our understanding of it and reaction to it are our own choice. therefore our context is always our own choice

    leaping Panther (darren.islar): hey Bleu
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): hiya :)
    Elan (elanvitalo): Heya, Bleu.
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Hi, Bleu.
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hello Bleu!

    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Hi, Bleu.
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hello Bleu!


    leaping Panther (darren.islar): we are talking about context Bleu, starting at to define it
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): Sl or immersing in a book created a mental context...which is also a kind of context where we experience things and have feelings....
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): context .. good subject :)
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): a difference between 'reality' and mental contexts?
    Ava (avaline.decuir): yes but since each of us has different percerptions, and different life experiences .. we experience the same thing differently .. thereforre the context becomes individual
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): difficult to say where starts and ends each one
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): we use our mind to perceive 'reality'
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): in some sense context is created in each of our minds ... not sure we can even get at "reality"
    Ava (avaline.decuir): not sure there such a thing as reality
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): is the fantasy of a book less real than the reality of doing the dishes?
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): at least that we can understand
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): whatever seems "real" to us is real in a sense, yes?
    Ava (avaline.decuir): I was watching a programme the other day on quantum physics and some scientists are questioning if anything actually exists .. or whether it only exists when it is percieved
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): depends on what is meant by perceived
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): Plato questioned it already ...
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): I would say it is real to us yes, which is in line with perception
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): human perception?
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): my dog smells so much more than I do ... his reality is much different then mine :)
    Ava (avaline.decuir): but from a scientific standpoint they now believe that things are both there and not there at the same time and so they can be percieved differently by everyone and everything .. since their presence is shifting so much
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): depends on the level of perception I think
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): but does a poet see the same thing looking at a building than a mason
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): could
    Elan (elanvitalo): So, I can be a "failure" on one level but on others?

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    Bleu (bleu.oleander): I've known some very perceptive masons :)
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): grins ... talking about my perceptions :)
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): some masons are great poets ... some poets are pretty good masons perhaps?
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): There used to be a saying that no one could see the fog in London until a poet pointed it out and named it.
    Ava (avaline.decuir): but think of two artists .. they will paint the same building differently ... so what is the reality of the building?
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): or make different pavilions :)
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): lol
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): speaking of which ...
    Wol Euler: is any painting a reality of any building?
    Elan (elanvitalo) listens.
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): is a photograph ?
    Ava (avaline.decuir): 'perhaps to the artist it is .. it is how the artist sees it
    Wol Euler: depends what you mean by reality. Both a photo and a building can have reality but IMO their realities are incommensurate.
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): wasn't this a source of constant debate among the empiricist philosophers?

    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I go now.... take care all and se you soon!
    Wol Euler: bye xira, take care
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): bye:)
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): bye Xiri

    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Bye, Xir
    Elan (elanvitalo): Bye for now, Xir.


    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): can we trust our senses?  can we trust our interpretations of what our senses tell us?  can we compare our interpretations with those of others?
    Wol Euler: do we have any choice, Bruce?
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): we must trust our senses ... but also we trust others senses too
    Wol Euler: if we can't trust our senses, then we have to just guess or fantasize about what might be
    Wol Euler: is that better?
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): this reminds me of the parable about the blind men  describing an elephant...
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): This is .... ELEPHANTASTIC !!
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray):               _____
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    Bruce (bruce.mowbray):           /   _    \__/         \
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray):          /  /  \      ____     I  \
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray):         /_/      I    I       I    I
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray):                    I__I       I__I
    Wol Euler: /me chuckles.
    Ava (avaline.decuir): I think our senses are to help guide us through this reality of this physical dimension .. but they are imperfect for helping us to percieve the actual reality .. if there even is one
    Elan (elanvitalo): :)
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): there are many influences on the information that comes to us through our senses ... we interpret using our past experiences and memories
    Elan (elanvitalo): for sure, Bleu....
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): our brains make up most of the picture our eyes see
    Ava (avaline.decuir): not only our past but our hopes for the future too
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): anticipation :)
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): actual reality .... hmmm
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): There are some past experiences and memories that I cannot revisit without shuddering . .  but I am absolutely sure that most people remembering those same events would have only different responses to them then I did.
    Wol Euler: and nonetheless we are forced to use that partial and faulty information, because it is really all we have. Yes, that thing below my feet which looks like a carpet on a floor might actually be the underbelly of a whale, but it seems rather unlikely. How often must I reevaluate the carpet/whale dilemma?
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): "reality" is a human word ... what actually do we mean when we say that?
    Ava (avaline.decuir): the actual reality being that there isn't one .. but we are limited in our capacity to understand that
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): we know what is helpful to know :)
    Wol Euler: indeed
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): does our capacity for compassion for the other guy ( or gal, of course)  influence our "reality"  in that experience?
    Wol Euler: and perhaps our limited and partial and faulty knowledge is more useful than none at all
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): we don't know that there isn't a real reality ha ha!
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): agree Wol ... got us this far lol
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): so there is a 'useful' reality
    Elan (elanvitalo): So,  so-Called "Reality" is an agreement?  a compromise?  a shared narrative?
    Elan (elanvitalo): pragmatics?
    Ava (avaline.decuir): or not so shared

    Wol Euler: hello aph
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): hey Aph
    Wol Euler: are you packed and ready?
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): hey Aph :)
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Hi

    Elan (elanvitalo): Heya, Aph!
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Hi, Aph!
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): close to it! I've packed my paints and paint brushes!
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): YAYYY!
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Ava (avaline.decuir): Hello Aph
    Wol Euler: start with the important stuff
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Italy here I come!
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain) grins

    Elan (elanvitalo): the degree to which  it is not shared,  may correlate with how much other folks think it is unreal.
    Ava (avaline.decuir): some people believe that autism .. particularly the prfound type puts those who suffer from it outside of reality as a collective understanding
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): I like the agreement, but also the 'not so shared',. we MIGHT think we understand each other
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Listens to Ava
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): what agreement?
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): we've been discussing "contexts"  "reality"   "failure"   and, I guess,  the relativism of all of these, Aph.
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): umm OK
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): we are talking about context Aph, and so far ended up with reality, whether reality is real or an agreement
    Ava (avaline.decuir): or not real at all
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): could be many things
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): it's amazing we all agree to drive on the same side of the street :)
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): thanks Bruce, nice compilation
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): reality is our perception of it

    PaB Bell: 90 second pause. Please be silent in mindfulness.
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): ty, and  you're welcome.
    Ava (avaline.decuir): no we don't .. Darren and I drive on different sides of the sgtreet
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): I know hehe
    Ava (avaline.decuir): which is why he won't let me drive his car
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray) dies from laughing....
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): wonders whether this is a drop
    Elan (elanvitalo) me dies from laughing....
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): no we don't Bleu, Ava and I have a deep disagreement about it ... since I claim to drive on the 'right' side of teh street
    PaB Bell: Shhhhhhhh! Quiet please.
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): have had difference of opinion in the same town lol
    Ava (avaline.decuir): he drives on the wrong side of the street only UK and Australia .. and the rest of the sensible world that drive on the left are correct
    PaB Bell: Thank you. Please continue to be mindful.
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    Ava (avaline.decuir): the rest of the world is just following a trend set by Napoleon
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): still she understands she better doesn't drive in Europe

    Wol Euler: question: were none of you getting "shush" messages, or did you all just ignore them?
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): I was trying to shush
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): erm .... hides
    Wol Euler: so did you get the message or not?
    Wol Euler: please answer
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): I did
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): I got them
    Ava (avaline.decuir): we ignored them
    Wol Euler: I want to know if my script works
    Wol Euler: right
    Wol Euler: :)
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): It works!
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes
    Wol Euler: good
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): But perhaps it is too polite
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): what is the number 49488?
    Wol Euler: so I've done my bit, it's up to you lot to react :-P
    Ava (avaline.decuir): nope it is the colour ... it is hard for me to see
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): but according which is the right or correct side of the street, I tend to ignore it :)
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): i got the shhhh message, yes.
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): maybe bold letters or caps might grab our attention bette
    r
    Wol Euler: one less than 49489?
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): which is ... ?
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): I just came from San's tea house. It's really sweet
    Wol Euler: oh that, it's the internal SL representation of time, which is the number of seconds since midnight :)
    Ava (avaline.decuir): it would be better if it was in the same green as the other bit .. the brown is hard to see for old eyes
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): I don't think it's the warning, it's us
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): I'm not focusing perhaps hehe
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): lol
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): interesting ... did not know that :)
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): brb


    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): you see?!  context, perception, failure, . . . . What shall we do about this?

    leaping Panther (darren.islar): you can change the color sweet, preferences, caht I think
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): hahaha Bruce
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): I have set my preferences so that everything I say appears in orange...
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): I guess I could do the same with the " dropping"  notices...  but in a different color
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): cool
    Wol Euler: you can change the colour in which IMs to you from prims (which is what that was) are presented
    Wol Euler: I cannot determine it

    Ava (avaline.decuir): hmmm but if I don't see the message because of the colour then how do I know there is a message that I need to change?
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): sorry preferences, colors
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): /me ponders to himself:  Since Darren will be changing the pavilion after this session,  I'd best get rid of the Zen bell for now.

    leaping Panther (darren.islar): you change the color and in the future you will know
    Ava (avaline.decuir): but .. how do you know what my future will hold?
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): we don't really need this in bell anyway, since  the "drop"  notifier is in good working order.
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): the Zen bowl*
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): grins ... I predict it will hold messages from prims :)
    Ava (avaline.decuir): only if I keep talking when you want me to shut up
    Ava (avaline.decuir): and I predict the message will come in a more immediate and physical form
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): hahaha
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): she's sitting next to me :)
    Elan (elanvitalo): a physical form?
    Elan (elanvitalo): oh. Whew!   I was looking up expecting the ceiling to fall.
    Ava (avaline.decuir): he will hit me
    Elan (elanvitalo): ha ha.
    Ava (avaline.decuir): hehehe
    Elan (elanvitalo): ouch....  I speak empathetically because Bruce often pokes me.
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): nah .... I rather kiss you ... as long as you keep to the 'right' side of the road!
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): lol
    Wol Euler: /me smiles.
    Ava (avaline.decuir): I will let you drive then we will be on the right side of the road but not necessarily on the correct side
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): so what is 'correct' in terms of context?
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): trivia question:   is the United Kingdom the only country in Europe that still drives on the left side of the road?
    Ava (avaline.decuir): correct to me is what I say it is .. that is my reality
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): I think so yes

    Bleu (bleu.oleander): what we all agree to is correct?
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): does Ireland also do that?
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): ah .. yes
    Ava (avaline.decuir): Ireland is so small I don't think they need to drive
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): and to Scotland,  which of course is part of the United Kingdom....
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): laughs at Ava- I've drivevn in Ireland- scary- very scary
    Elan (elanvitalo): just be sure your car is not painted orange.
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): lol
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): is 'failure' possible or only in our own perception?
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): I only drove in the south
    Elan (elanvitalo): or, depending on the context,  that it IS painted orange.
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): NYC scariest place i've ever driven ha!
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): next to Cairo that is hehe
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): and Italy
    Elan (elanvitalo): Boston for moi.

    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): In Teheran there are NO traffic lanes
    Ava (avaline.decuir): When I was a child and lived in Norway for a while .. they didn't have a "side "of the road to drive .. everyone drove in the middle and kind of decided as another car approached which side they would pass on .. but there was a lot less cars back then
    Elan (elanvitalo): NYC  is a breeze
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): sounds like Theran Ava


    Wol Euler: LP, I'd say yes "failure" is only a judgement in our minds or those of our critics.
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): I agree with Wol  on that.
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): our critic yes
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): we do not have to  "own" or "internalize"  the judgments of others.
    Wol Euler: perhaps the person who we thought was a lousy polevaulter was actually TRYING to break the bar across his forehead, and is delighted with his achievement
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): ha ha!
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): but we make judgments all the time when we make decisions
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): lol
    Ava (avaline.decuir): to fail you must have a standard that you are expected to meet .. so if you don't bother having any standards you can't fail
    Wol Euler: of course
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): lol Wol
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): there are value judgments,  moral judgments,  measurement judgments,  right side of the road judgments,  and I could go on and on...
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): the problem is with the language, not with the judgment itself.
    Wol Euler: there are two ways to play the fairground shooting gallery: either try to hit the targets, which is hard
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): or not!!
    Wol Euler: or try to maintain a constant rhythm of shoooting without hitting anything at all, which is actually harder.
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): :)
    Ava (avaline.decuir): or hit the vendor and take all the prizes
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): yes :-)
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): ha ha!
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): or don't go in the first place
    Wol Euler: or burn down the fairground
    Wol Euler: sure
    Wol Euler: this can go on forever
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): the paradoxes of Zeno and Parmenides say you can't go anywhere,  anyway.
    Ava (avaline.decuir): so there are 4 contexts in a few seconds

    PaB Bell: 90 second pause. Please be silent in mindfulness.
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): you can't even move and itsy itsy bit.
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): PAUSE....

    PaB Bell: Thank you. Please continue to be mindful.
    PaB Bell: whispers: Now is 50477, QuarterHourUnit is 57.
    PaB Bell: whispers: Will ring in 895.871100 seconds.


    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): we didn't get scolded that time!
    Wol Euler: it works!
    Wol Euler: pavlov would be proud
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): YAYYY!
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): ha!
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): :-) woof


    leaping Panther (darren.islar): we make judgments in order to make decision, which are based on a reality we created ourselves

    Ava (avaline.decuir): hahahaha
    Wol Euler: and btw the scolding is only heard by the person who speaks
    Elan (elanvitalo): ahhh!
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): that's cool
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): so by Aph :)
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): ?
    Elan (elanvitalo): shame shame doubled shame everybody knows your name.
    Wol Euler: well of course, think how unpleasant it would be for those righteous ones having to listen to you lot being shushed.
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): waaaa
    Elan (elanvitalo): apparently she didn't get scolded!
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): this has been delightful, folks, but I really need to get to scraping up my supper now.
    Wol Euler: bye bruce, scrape well
    Ava (avaline.decuir): niught Bruce
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): bye bye Bruce
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): bye
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): bye Bruce

    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): so long for now, good people!
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): byee all
    Bruce: left chat range.
    Wol Euler: I shall hang around unti the sessin ends, to see waht happens to the log.
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): bye Aph
    Wol Euler: bye aph
    Ava (avaline.decuir): bye Aph
    Elan (elanvitalo): I guess I better heed my master's call . . .
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): nice- a new path!
    Aph (aphrodite.macbain): thanks Bleu
    Elan (elanvitalo): thanks for this session everyone!
    Wol Euler: /me smiles.
    Ava (avaline.decuir): bye Elan
    Wol Euler: bye elan, take care
    Aph: left chat range.
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): bye Elan

    Elan (elanvitalo): bye for now.
    Wol Euler: keep your eye on the WD40
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): let me know when you're ready to install LP and i'll take this down
    leaping Panther (darren.islar): I need to make a copy, I'll be back in a minute
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): we are switching pavilions today Wol, so Darren can just adjust the recorder if needed?
    Wol Euler: sure
    Wol Euler: I'll end the session, then.
    Ava (avaline.decuir): moving out of the way
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): great
    PaB Listener Master: Recording has stopped, the session is ended.

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