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2015.10.26 13:00 - GPS Bracelets, Co-Housing and Being Alive
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No headersThe Guardian for this meeting was Aphrodite Macbain. The comments are by Aphrodite Macbain.
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Bruce
Aphrodite Macbain: Glad to see you
Bruce Mowbray: TY! Good to be here.
Aphrodite Macbain: How are you doing?
Aphrodite Macbain: (I like your red socks)
Bruce Mowbray: TY!
Bruce Mowbray: me too!
Ari's concerts
Bruce Mowbray: Elan and I were dancing at Ari's piano concert yesterday -- and the red socks did the trick.
Aphrodite Macbain: Here?
Bruce Mowbray: At some ballroom.
Bruce Mowbray: I have a link if you would like to have it.
Aphrodite Macbain: Oh. Let me know, would you, when Ari's playing next?
Aphrodite Macbain: sure
Aphrodite Macbain: thanks
Korel Laloix: heya
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Korel!
Bruce Mowbray: kk, just a sec. I think he plays almost every week at that ballroom.
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Kori.
Aphrodite Macbain: When is Ari playing here, do you know?
Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya Riddle
Aphrodite Macbain: GTSY
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Riddle.
Riddle Sideways: Hi y'All
Riddle Sideways: Ari already played here
Aphrodite Macbain: when?
Riddle Sideways: Ari played somewhere else yesterday
Aphrodite Macbain: we were talking about him playing again
Riddle Sideways: hmmmm, couple weeks ago
Aphrodite Macbain: here in our theatre
Riddle Sideways: /looking
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, Ari played at a ballroom yesterday. Here's the LM for it:
Aphrodite Macbain: Brice attended that concert
Bruce Mowbray: also Bruce and Elan!
Aphrodite Macbain: also Bruce
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Bruce Mowbray: :))
Riddle Sideways: played the theater here a Monday 2pm near Sept. 30
Aphrodite Macbain: Yes I am sorry I missed that.
Landscaping
Aphrodite Macbain: Do you like what San has done to the pathway behind our plots Riddle?
Aphrodite Macbain: the trees
Riddle Sideways: mostly, like it
Riddle Sideways: don't really like or need walls
Aphrdite Macbain: nods
Riddle Sideways: protection from an empty field?
Aphrodite Macbain: that's why she put only trees
Riddle Sideways: did a nice job tho
Aphrodite Macbain: I think I am agoraphobic!
Riddle Sideways: had to look up agoraphobic
Riddle Sideways: nothing to get anxious about
Bruce Mowbray moves camera around to peek at the wall.
Aphrodite Macbain: she put a fence and trees to the north of my place
Korel Laloix: Lagged. so I have everything unrezzed.
Aphrodite Macbain: San has done a great job as has Bleu
Bruce Mowbray nods, agrees.
Disasters
Bruce Mowbray: So, what's this I hear about a whale-watching boat capsizing in your vicinity, Aph? http://www.cbsnews.com/news/whale-wa...than-ii-sinks/
Aphrodite Macbain: omg. I didn't see that Bruce
Aphrodite Macbain: we still need a notice board near the pavilion for people to join PaB however
--BELL--
Bruce Mowbray ponders the possibility of an agoraphobic whale being responsible for the boat's capsizing.
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Riddle Sideways: our area had a whale breach onto a kayak
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: That was a big boat too
Bruce Mowbray: 65 feet long.
Riddle Sideways: doesn't give a reason
Bruce Mowbray listens.
Aphrodite Macbain: what happened to the kayaker Riddle?
Riddle Sideways: 2 were in kayak
Korel Laloix: Strange accidents like that happen more often than people think.. I think. Had a drunk woman crash into a parade over in Stillwater the other day.
Aphrodite Macbain: in a car Kori?
Riddle Sideways: heard that
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Qt
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Qt!
Riddle Sideways: Hey QT
Qt Core: Hi all
Aphrodite Macbain: we're talking about strange occurrences
Korel Laloix: yes... killed 4... a dozen injured.
Aphrodite Macbain: horrible
Korel Laloix: http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/25/us/okl...owd/index.html
Riddle Sideways: brother-in-law had side of his car plowed into by a lady whose GPS told her to do a U-turn
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, Kori. That is so sad. People out for a happy day -- and then trouble, tragic.
Aphrodite Macbain: Some homecoming!
GPS
Qt Core: my GPS once told me to do a U turn while entering an highway
Bruce Mowbray: I was gratified to see that Oklahoma State went ahead with their game.
Riddle Sideways: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u-MW7vF0-Y
Bruce Mowbray: omg, Qt!
Aphrodite Macbain: I guess the GPS needed updating!
Qt Core: (and that highway was quite old, so the gps had it in its memory)
Riddle Sideways: usually says to do a "legal U-turn when available"
Aphrodite Macbain: I presume the GPS up dates itself, no?
Qt Core: not really, the maps just does not reside on your phone but on google (or apple) servers
Riddle Sideways: most do now
Qt Core: the one with a data connections do, the old kind does not or does only when at home attached to a pc
Riddle Sideways: yes
Aphrodite Macbain: I have gps on my cell phone...
Aphrodite Macbain: I presume it gets updated
Bruce Mowbray: (That video of the whale and the kayak was amazing.)
Aphrodite Macbain: yes- very moving
Riddle Sideways: nobody hurt
Bruce Mowbray: I have neither cell phone nor GPS.
Riddle Sideways: how do you find your way to the store :)
Aphrodite Macbain: You don't drive any more, do you Bruce?
Aphrodite Macbain: I guess you have to...
Riddle Sideways: even walking in NYC needed a GPS
Bruce Mowbray: Of course I still drive.
Aphrodite Macbain: Nods, yes, of course
Bruce Mowbray: How else could I get around? I live five miles from the nearest town.
Aphrodite Macbain: nods
Riddle Sideways: come out of grand central and not know which direction is up town
Riddle Sideways: looking for moss on the parking meters
Bruce Mowbray: I've done that, Riddle.
Aphrodite Macbain: That's what's nice about having mountains here (in Vancouver)
Aphrodite Macbain: I always know where up is
Aphrodite Macbain: lol Riddle
Riddle Sideways: [joke removed]
Aphrodite Macbain: :-(
Aphrodite Macbain: too bad
Vertigo
Bruce Mowbray: With my vertigo (my typist's vertigo), I'm not sure which way is up until I sit on the edge of the bed a few moments - every morning.
Aphrodite Macbain: It doesn't affect your driving, Bruce?
Bruce Mowbray: but sitting for a moment usually does the trick.
Bruce Mowbray: Nope, not yet, fortunately.
Bruce Mowbray: I can't lie on my back without the room spinning for a brief while, though.
Bruce Mowbray: then it goes away.
Riddle Sideways: getting to be that age that needed warm up exercises before getting out of bed
Bruce Mowbray: That's why I need to sit on the edge of the bed in the morning.... to get my brain adjusted to vertical again.
Korel Laloix: Back to work... ciao all
Riddle Sideways: ciao
Aphrodite Macbain: bye Korel
Bruce Mowbray: Bye Kori!
Qt Core: bye Korel
Qt Core: (speaking of gps i found very amusing when they learned to correctly pronounce Italian road names... and at the same time started to butchering road named after JFK or Lincoln)
Aphrodite Macbain: They need an Italian speaker for Italian GPS
Bruce Mowbray: I am a living example of brain plasticity... and it IS amazing.
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Bruce Mowbray wonders if they could build "plasticity" into GPS systems.
Bruce Mowbray: updating the data?
Riddle Sideways: yep, constant updating
Bruce Mowbray: There really should be Italian speakers available, Qt.
Co-housing
Aphrodite Macbain: I am looking at a place to finally retire- a place I can live in my 80s and 90s. It has to be one accessible to theatres, colleges, cafes, places I can walk to or take a bus
Bruce Mowbray: Wow! Where would that be, Aph. I was thinking about Vancouver, myself.
Riddle Sideways: Victoria?
Bruce Mowbray ponders (silently) that the grass always seems greener somewhere else.
Riddle Sideways: ponders that Eliza's overwatered lawn is the greenest
Aphrodite Macbain: There are co-housing places in a number of cities - where you can rent or buy. (Google "co-housing")
Aphrodite Macbain: you have your own place but there is a common area for cooking and socializing
Bruce Mowbray: So, co-housing would save money, right?
Aphrodite Macbain: the residents manage the place
Bruce Mowbray: something like co-op housing?
Aphrodite Macbain: no
Bruce Mowbray listens.
Aphrodite Macbain: Check out the co-housing sites
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmm. I probably couldn't afford it anyway.
Aphrodite Macbain: http://cohousing.ca/
Aphrodite Macbain: You can rent too
Aphrodite Macbain: brb
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.cohousing.org/
Riddle Sideways: a commune
Riddle Sideways: assisted living place might be nice
Bruce Mowbray: I will definitely check that out. I'm ready for a change in my life.
Riddle Sideways: am looking forward to somebody taking good care of moi
Bruce Mowbray is already starting to get agoraphobic.
Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
Aphrodite Macbain: bk
Riddle Sideways: fear of angora sweaters
Riddle Sideways: wb
Bruce Mowbray: wb, Aph!
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Plumbers....
Aphrodite Macbain: The sky fell in yesterday
Bruce Mowbray: ahhhh. . . . I hope your plumbers have GPS devices.
Riddle Sideways: oh dear
Bruce Mowbray: omg!
Aphrodite Macbain: water from the shower in the suite above leaked into my bathroom
Aphrodite Macbain: poured in
Aphrodite Macbain: scary
Bruce Mowbray: sounds like my typist's place, Aph.
Aphrodite Macbain: I ran around finding buckets
Aphrodite Macbain: all's well now
Bruce Mowbray: Except he gets it from rains rather than from faulty plumbing.
Riddle Sideways: got lots of buckets for you
Aphrodite Macbain: he needs a new roof
Bruce Mowbray: Hope nothing was ruined.
Aphrodite Macbain: no I don't think so
Bruce Mowbray: good.
Riddle Sideways: k
Bruce Mowbray: bathroom would be the best room for it to drain into, I guess.
Aphrodite Macbain: so, back to living places
Bruce Mowbray: kk.
Aphrodite Macbain: I'd love to live in an intentional community
Aphrodite Macbain: where people know me
Bruce Mowbray: I have always felt that way myself, Aph....
Aphrodite Macbain: where I can hang out
Bruce Mowbray: but, I don't know.....
Aphrodite Macbain: with others
Aphrodite Macbain: of all ages
Bruce Mowbray: nods.
Aphrodite Macbain: you don't know?
Bruce Mowbray: even the old krauts like moi.
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Riddle Sideways: don't want to live in any place that would have me - Groucho
Aphrodite Macbain: with a resident nurse
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Bruce Mowbray: I just don't have that balance down right - between solitude and socializing.
Bruce Mowbray: never have gotten it right, actually.
Aphrodite Macbain: I like my own space but it's nice to see others when lonely
Bruce Mowbray: I understand Groucho's point, actually.
Riddle Sideways: need a community of hermits
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: I think they existed
Bruce Mowbray: (Riddle understands.)
Aphrodite Macbain: monks in cells
Aphrodite Macbain: only gathering for eating and praying and singing
Bruce Mowbray: paradox? Community of hermits?
Aphrodite Macbain: or playing bridge :-)
Bruce Mowbray ponders celibate hermits coming together to play bridge.
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Riddle Sideways: regular organized get together that nobody comes to
Bruce Mowbray thinks he might prefer a disorganized living situation.
Aphrodite Macbain: No one tells you what to do there...
Bruce Mowbray nods, good.
Aphrodite Macbain: It would be like living in a village
Bruce Mowbray: ahhh, sounds good.
Aphrodite Macbain: but with a university 5 blocks away
Riddle Sideways: a non-intentional community
Aphrodite Macbain: lol yes
Riddle Sideways: like everywhere
Aphrodite Macbain: except they agree about certain things and share ecological values
Bruce Mowbray: This really has caught my interest, Aph.
Aphrodite Macbain: :-) It started in Denmark and has spread like wildfire
Bruce Mowbray: I might need to get landed immigrant status in Canada, though.
Aphrodite Macbain: yes! thanks Qt
Bruce Mowbray clicks.
Back to GPS
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm sure there are places in the US Bruce
Riddle Sideways: will GPSs help with dementia?
Bruce Mowbray: I will definitely check it out.
Aphrodite Macbain: there are co-housing places for seniors as well as for a mix of ages
Aphrodite Macbain: It may Riddle.... :)
Bruce Mowbray: GPS could surely help with dementia.... if one knew how to interpret the GPS, I would think.
Aphrodite Macbain: nice to have someone tell you where to go if you keep getting lost
Bruce Mowbray: but it could also be a GPS with specific things that the individual would need... a good start-up for some up and coming techie.
Aphrodite Macbain: nice idea Bruce
Qt Core: just yesterday they advertised on radio a gps bracelet to be given to elders to find them (for the kind that would get out to go 'somewhere')
Bruce Mowbray: :) ty.
Aphrodite Macbain: then you would have to remember how to make it work....
Riddle Sideways: like in "Robot and Frank"
Bruce Mowbray: Wonderful, Qt.
Aphrodite Macbain: that's perfect Qt. I wonder if it has been tried out.
Bruce Mowbray: I have had daily episodes of short-term memory loss -- Nothing like dementia, though..... or at least I don't think so.
Aphrodite Macbain: Robot and Frank??
Riddle Sideways: cute movie, Aph
Bruce Mowbray Googles Robot and Frank.
Aphrodite Macbain: maybe it's on Netflix
Riddle Sideways: yes, think it is
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1990314/
Bruce Mowbray: I have seen it!
What is life?
Aphrodite Macbain: Do any of you have some movie recommendations for films that try to define what "life' is?
Riddle Sideways: :)
Bruce Mowbray: hmmmmm..... ponders.
Aphrodite Macbain: is a robot alive?
Qt Core: an interesting movie about mental illness i've seen a couple days ago: Mary and Max
Aphrodite Macbain: oh?
Bruce Mowbray Googles Mary and Max
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0978762/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Aphrodite Macbain: Would you say that a robot was alive? Are our avatars alive?
Qt Core: yes that one Bruce
Qt Core: robots maybe a long road ahead btw, avatars, no
Riddle Sideways: bad Google ... lots of lists of top 1,234 Life changing movies
Bruce Mowbray: Like everything else in the world, our avatars are as "alive" as we project ourselves into them to be.
Aphrodite Macbain: our avatars ARE alive- imbued with our spirit, no?
Bruce Mowbray: I agree, Aph.
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Aphrodite Macbain: they are another part of us
Qt Core: yes, but still me and my avatar = one life
Bruce Mowbray: Dancing with Elan yesterday was an awakening for moi.
Aphrodite Macbain: nods but different parts of me
Bruce Mowbray: yes, different parts.
Aphrodite Macbain: oh Bruce? How?
Qt Core: i may play as much as i want but still one (other facet)
Riddle Sideways: seem to have had that argument with an alt a couple days ago
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Bruce Mowbray: It just felt so comforting, so refreshing to dance with my alt.
Aphrodite Macbain: what did your alt say Riddle?
Bruce Mowbray: He enjoyed it too.
Bruce Mowbray: oh, sry... listens to riddle.
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm curious about opposing arguments
Riddle Sideways: :) I am as alive as you let me
Bruce Mowbray: I don't think you need us to validate that you are alive, Riddle.
Aphrodite Macbain: Perhaps all the prims that make up our avis are like DNA chromosomes in a biological life
Aphrodite Macbain: each prim has a purpose
Aphrodite Macbain: and transforms how we are
Riddle Sideways: an alt avatar might need it tho
Bruce Mowbray: ahhh! nods.
Qt Core: but they only define the what bit not the how
Bruce Mowbray: A purpose for every prim under heaven. Turn turn turn.
Riddle Sideways: very deep
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Bruce Mowbray: Must be going now.
Bruce Mowbray: THANKS, good people.
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye Bruce
Qt Core: bye Bruce
Riddle Sideways: also
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks
Riddle Sideways: thanks All
Aphrodite Macbain: byee
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm writing a paper on this Qt
Aphrodite Macbain: "who are we?"
Qt Core: housing for elders or avatars and robots ?
Aphrodite Macbain: avatars and robots :-) and DNA
Aphrodite Macbain: and vitalism
Aphrodite Macbain: and all the ways people have defined life through history
Aphrodite Macbain: and whether life exists elsewhere in the universe
Aphrodite Macbain: Our limited brains and our knowledge prevents us from imagining other forms of life
Qt Core: (I'm pretty sure it exists, even intelligent life, but in most cases we are/were/will be too far away, in space or time
Aphrodite Macbain: nods
Aphrodite Macbain: It is possible that some form of life lived on Mars
Qt Core: Fermi's paradox and all its answers
Qt Core: bacteria, maybe, not much else
Aphrodite Macbain: Fermi's paradox?
Aphrodite Macbain: I wonder whether we could recognize another form of life...
Aphrodite Macbain: thanks
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks! Very useful :-)
Qt Core: ;-)
Aphrodite Macbain: i should get back to reading Schroedinger "What is Life?" !
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks for all the references
Aphrodite Macbain: byee
Qt Core: yw, bye
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