Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
Mickorod Renard: Hi Bruce
Mickorod Renard: am I in your seat?
Bruce Mowbray: No, you're fine.
--BELL--1.00
Bruce Mowbray: I was just waiting for everything to rez.
Mickorod Renard: great, how are you?
Bruce Mowbray: well I am great Mic,k.
Bruce Mowbray: thank you for asking.
Mickorod Renard: ah yes, I have to do that
Bruce Mowbray: and how are you this fine day.
Mickorod Renard: wow great, ..I am fine too Bruce ty
Bruce Mowbray: Excellent!
Mickorod Renard: I went along to that meet on saturday, with Elijah
Bruce Mowbray: ohgreat!
Mickorod Renard: it was quite interesting
Agatha Macbeth: Greetings
Mickorod Renard: Hi Ags
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, aggers!
Mickorod Renard: Hi Storm
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Stormy
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Storm.
Storm Nordwind: Hi everyone
Bruce Mowbray: Bleu, is looking good with her new head and body.
Agatha Macbeth: TV girl
Mickorod Renard: oh, I havnt seen her yet
Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
Mickorod Renard: Hi Bleu
Agatha Macbeth: You have ! :p
Bruce Mowbray: or should I say, "Heads and body"?
Bleu Oleander: hi all :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Bleuji
Storm Nordwind waves
Bruce Mowbray: face and body how's that?
Agatha Macbeth: 'Do not adjust your set
Mickorod Renard: ah I see now, a bit spooky
Agatha Macbeth: Spookeh
Mickorod Renard: :)
Bruce Mowbray ponders T.S. Eliot's "I shall go to prepare a face to meet the faces that I meet."
Bleu Oleander: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Lets face it
Bruce Mowbray: Instant Botox?
Agatha Macbeth: Instant what?
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Mickorod Renard: boxtox
Agatha Macbeth: Thought the t was an I for a minute
Agatha Macbeth: Here comes Liz
Agatha Macbeth: Thinking inside the box Brucie?
Bleu Oleander: hi Eliza :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Eliza!
Mickorod Renard: Hi Liz
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu, everyone :)
Storm Nordwind: Hi Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: my head suddenly seems too round
Bleu Oleander: :)
Agatha Macbeth: A wee bit too roond lassie
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Mickorod Renard: the Elijah meet was fun on Saturday
Agatha Macbeth: Yes it was
Eliza Madrigal nods, sorry you missed it Bruce, but I know you're already well familiar
Mickorod Renard: I like vizualization
Bruce Mowbray: So sorry I couldn't make it -- having dinner out of town with RL friends.
Eliza Madrigal: nice
Bruce Mowbray: I met with Elijah today, though.
Mickorod Renard: ah!
Agatha Macbeth: Not quite such a hermit then
Bruce Mowbray: Mike typist does see humans now and then.
Eliza Madrigal: Hermits go down from the mountain occasionally :)
Bruce Mowbray: My*
Mickorod Renard: yes Bruce, you sound like a socialite
Bruce Mowbray:
Storm Nordwind: Hobnobbing with the gentry
Agatha Macbeth: And into cubism
Mickorod Renard: How did the reading go? anyone get through the expected bit?
Bruce Mowbray: My text didn't go that far.
Eliza Madrigal: not yet, here to absorb others' pointers and insights
Storm Nordwind: Yes and no. The PDF I've been following suddenly stops.
Mickorod Renard: yikes
Bleu Oleander: yes I noticed that too
Bleu Oleander: I have too many versions of this book :)
Mickorod Renard: thank goodness Bruce has the voice one
Bruce Mowbray: No, I make the voice one from the other one.
Eliza Madrigal: then my PDF will stop too, because I've been using the one from the link
Bruce Mowbray: and the other one ran out!
Mickorod Renard: oh nooooo
Eliza Madrigal: "the birds fall off the cliff"
Bruce Mowbray: oh yesssssss.
Mickorod Renard: what should we do?
Bleu Oleander: there's a nice more modern translation I've been using
Bruce Mowbray: The hunter shiek shoots the birds. . .
Storm Nordwind: It goes to the end of a subheading section called "The Arab in Persia" and then goes to commentary text
Mickorod Renard: mmmmmm
Bruce Mowbray: Yep, that's all I've got too.
Bleu Oleander: the Wolpe translation
Mickorod Renard: do you all think you can improvise?
Eliza Madrigal runs to see which she has on kindle
Storm Nordwind: The last lines of the poem we have are:Enter the Way or seek some other goal, But do so to the utmost of your soul; Risk all, and as a naked Beggar roam If you would hear that ‘Enter’ call you home.
Bruce Mowbray: That's it, Storm.
--BELL--1.15
Mickorod Renard: well, what do you all think? can we carry one with it?
Bruce Mowbray: Sure!
Mickorod Renard: oh great!
Agatha Macbeth: Why not?
Mickorod Renard: was worried noone had the rest to read
Storm Nordwind: There are other versions out there, but I haven't found an equivalent poem one yet. More just prose.
Mickorod Renard: kk
Mickorod Renard: I did a bit of a note ..should anyone wish me to paste it,,its short
Agatha Macbeth: Go for it
Bruce Mowbray: We all have lives full of experience to bring . . . to the questions raised by this poem.
Mickorod Renard: ty
Bruce Mowbray listens
Mickorod Renard: In this section I found the stories still interesting, if not more so. Here we find there are 7 valleys to pass through. I found 'Eblis and Gods curse ' dificult but after googling discovered enough to help me understand 'pride' and the posible behind the scenes stuff re Eblis. fly and the bee hive (simple enough) re attachments/detachments 'A sheikh in love' note at the end there is a suggestion/complaint that noone (birds?) has yet set off.
Mickorod Renard: 'A lover who slept' would love to here more about this one and along with 'watchman in love'
Mickorod Renard: done ..but have a short thoughts thingy can paste afterwards
Agatha Macbeth: Ah Eblis
Agatha Macbeth: Born of fire
Mickorod Renard: yeh, interesting chap
Storm Nordwind: Reading Eblis and God's Curse, I found it easy to have sympathy with the devil. ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Very
Agatha Macbeth: Pleased to meet you :p
Mickorod Renard: yeh, btw wasnt that a song?
Mickorod Renard: stones
Storm Nordwind nods and grins
Mickorod Renard: he he Ags
Agatha Macbeth: Hope you know my name
Bruce Mowbray: Isn't th devile just a fallen angel, after all?
Storm Nordwind: Actually 'for' rather than 'with', but the reference was the same :)
Bruce Mowbray: me listens for more from Mick
Bruce Mowbray: and Storm...
Bruce Mowbray: and everyone.
Bruce Mowbray ponders sympathizing with/for the devile.
Mickorod Renard: yes, a few tales about him
Bruce Mowbray: also devil.
Bruce Mowbray: de-vile (curious). . . .
Mickorod Renard: but he could have been set up by God
Bruce Mowbray nods, agrees.
Storm Nordwind notes, coincidentally, that Sympathy for the Devil was recorded by the Rolling Stones 50 years ago. Today.
Eliza Madrigal: Thank you. ありがとうございました。
Agatha Macbeth: Synchronicity
Eliza Madrigal: oops
Mickorod Renard: but from the point of the poem the thing is pride
Bruce Mowbray: TODAY!
Eliza Madrigal: :) meant to say, how interesting :))
Mickorod Renard: wow Storm, is that so?
Mickorod Renard: how spooky is that
Storm Nordwind: Recorded 4–5, 8–10 June 1968
Bruce Mowbray: 1968 -what a year!
Agatha Macbeth: Isn't it the RFK anniversary soon?
Bruce Mowbray: This week, I think.
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: Yes a lot went on that year
Mickorod Renard: yesterday I went and revisited a seaside that I went to when I was 12
Mickorod Renard: that year
Agatha Macbeth: Not Weston by any chance?
Mickorod Renard: first time since and felt quite emotional
Agatha Macbeth: Happens
Bruce Mowbray: I can imagine, ick.
Bruce Mowbray: Mick*
Mickorod Renard: no, Amroth near Saundersfoot wales
Storm Nordwind: So the thing about the story in the poem is 'pride'. But whose pride, one wonders? ;)
Agatha Macbeth: Ick! :P
Agatha Macbeth: Oh nice
Agatha Macbeth: I love Pembrokeshire
Agatha Macbeth: World's end
Bruce Mowbray has never been to the coast of England/Wales -- only of Scotland.
Mickorod Renard: how do u mean Storm?
Agatha Macbeth listens
Storm Nordwind: Well, whose pride do you think is being illustrated, Mick?
Mickorod Renard: the way I read other stuff on it was that these characters are within us, and Pride is one such that is our failing
Storm Nordwind: I see.
Mickorod Renard: I mean, the fallen angels/devil..is in our character
Mickorod Renard: Eblis being the one with the curseoriginated from his Pride
Storm Nordwind: It seems to me that the one who pushes him out is at least as guilty of pride as the fallen one.
Agatha Macbeth: He was a djinn
--BELL--1.30
Bruce Mowbray: Are you ssaying that we ought to embrace our foibles?
Mickorod Renard: I see Storm yes, Adam also was blamed for his part in things but he asked God for forgivness wheras Eblis did not as he was too full of self ego
Storm Nordwind: Eblis saw himself as an equal. And why not? The flaws are there to see in both.
Mickorod Renard: is everyone familiar with the story in any small way?
Mickorod Renard: ah as an equal to Adam?
Agatha Macbeth: An equal, or superior?
Storm Nordwind: No. To God
Agatha Macbeth: I thought the latter
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Agatha Macbeth: Got it
Bruce Mowbray: Like Lucifer, then?
Storm Nordwind: Names shmames
Bleu Oleander: reminded me of the story of Ham in the Bible
Agatha Macbeth: As Reggie Perrin said
Bruce Mowbray: Lucifer wanted to stay in Heaven and love God rather than bring Light to the world... so God kicked him out.
Mickorod Renard: there was suggestion that God asked Eblis to bow to Adam, but Eblis didnt want to
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm.... listens.
Agatha Macbeth: He believed himself superior to Adam
Mickorod Renard: well, Eblis thought that his worshipping God would be enough
Storm Nordwind: Basically God's reaction to Eblis's pride or whatever the poem describes is not, in my view, exemplary or a role model. More a fit of pique that could be interpreted in one way as pride.
Bleu Oleander: was it a question of seeing god's secrets that he shouldn't have seen?
Agatha Macbeth: G is notorious for not being messed with ;-)
Mickorod Renard: he he
Storm Nordwind: He and I agree to disagree :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ha
Mickorod Renard: I saw something about that Bleu but cannot comment
Bleu Oleander: you must die because you have seen my secrets
Bruce Mowbray: modesty on God's part?
Storm Nordwind: That would be a first
Bruce Mowbray: bashful?
Eliza Madrigal: "you solved it, game over" :)
Agatha Macbeth ponders Bleu's secrets
Storm Nordwind chuckles
Bleu Oleander: wonders if I read the right part ... :)
Bruce Mowbray: So, basically, the birds are being told that they must sacrifice something . . . (Drop something) --- be it pride, or whatever.
Mickorod Renard: but the emphasis in the story is that if Eblis had been totally submissive to God and love God as he claimed to during his worshipping, then he should not have questions Gods choice , be it a God made test ot not
Bleu Oleander: yeah
Bruce Mowbray: Very similar to Job, Mick. . . except that Job was more loyal, I guess.
Mickorod Renard: yes, its the idea that one should not make an assumption of being superior to anyone else
Bruce Mowbray: In Job, God and the Devil make a bet.
Bleu Oleander: pay no attention to that man behind the curtain :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Mickorod Renard: :)
Bruce Mowbray: "Man"?
Agatha Macbeth: Eblis is the same as Melek Taus I think
Mickorod Renard: did anyone understand the watchman in love?
Agatha Macbeth: To be honest no :p
Mickorod Renard: :)
Storm Nordwind: watchman?
Bruce Mowbray: I don't think that's in our version, Mick.
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe lurve just ain't ma thang
Mickorod Renard: erk
Agatha Macbeth: Mein gott zere are different versions
Agatha Macbeth: Ach 9
Storm Nordwind chuckles
Eliza Madrigal: So many versions! I found a kindle illustrated version for .99 just now, but can't find my way around to where we are
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, not in the pdf version.
Bleu Oleander: I find I don't resonate with most of these stories
Bruce Mowbray: Really, Bleu?
Bruce Mowbray: Please say more.
Bleu Oleander: yep
Storm Nordwind: I agree with Bleu
Bruce Mowbray: Wow!
Agatha Macbeth: Actually so do I
Eliza Madrigal: something is hard to connect to
Eliza Madrigal listens
Bruce Mowbray: I resonate to almost all of them!
Mickorod Renard: I like the stories
Agatha Macbeth: The Shahnameh is way better
Bruce Mowbray: but please say more.
Bleu Oleander: basically have nothing to do with me and the modern world but am trying to see them in their context
Agatha Macbeth listens
Bruce Mowbray also listens.
Storm Nordwind: One can like the stories, admire the artistry and technique and implementation of purpose, without resonating with any of them.
Bleu Oleander: yes
Mickorod Renard: true, maybe I resonate with them too
Mickorod Renard: I find it facinating that we have a sort of split group
Bleu Oleander: I don't find them to be particularly well written and some of the stories are really not messages I can see value in
Mickorod Renard: as in previous reads we have been a bit too in agreement
--BELL--1.45
Eliza Madrigal: I think there is a way to read it that must be more harmonious, keeping poetical context, but at least for me it doesn't stay in that tone as I read
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmmm.
Mickorod Renard: I know I have changed over the years and become more the way I am, thought it was cos I am old and not to bothered about money n stuff
Eliza Madrigal: which doesn't mean there aren't portions that stand out to me as meaningful personally, and beautiful
Bruce Mowbray ponders becoming more the way I am....
Agatha Macbeth: You too eh?
Mickorod Renard: I was just thinking that I may not have resonated with it several years ago
Agatha Macbeth: It may get better once they setout
Bruce Mowbray: Me neither, Mick . . .
Eliza Madrigal: I've gone to read Rumi a few times, to try to sort of key into the music, then come back to see if I could feel it more
Agatha Macbeth: This is kind of a preamble
Bruce Mowbray: The journey is the thing.
Eliza Madrigal: Rumi seems different because he is all about his own trip
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bruce Mowbray: Rumi is wonderful . . . and right in step with the major ideas of this poem, I feel.
Agatha Macbeth: Pontification before the good bit
Storm Nordwind: With the exception of the section we had a week or two ago about death (which is universal, whether or not you share the writer's beliefs) I haven't found anything useful to me in the poem. In fact very often I would see messages counter to the poet's intent.
Mickorod Renard: journeys , even with friends often show up diferences not previously seen
Bruce Mowbray: So, is what the hoopoe is suggesting more of a journey or a gate along the way?
Storm Nordwind: Rumi is less of a bully than Attar and more of an artist. Much more satisfying to read in my humble opinion.
Mickorod Renard: I have to be constantly reminded to stay on the right track, and even then I am naughty
Bleu Oleander: agree Storm :)
Agatha Macbeth: Rumi is pretty good yes
Bruce Mowbray: OH YES, me too, Mick . . . I'm a wanderer off the beaten path.
Agatha Macbeth: Let's rumi-nate on that
Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
Storm Nordwind groans
Bleu Oleander: :)
Mickorod Renard: I would love to finnish this poem/book, but more so would love to follow with a book that would be meaningful for us all
Bruce Mowbray: This poem was meaningful to me -- and I' really glad you suggested it, Mick. Otherwise I'd never heard of it.
Bleu Oleander: no book is meaningful to everyone ... perhaps some more than others
Bruce Mowbray: I"m*
Bruce Mowbray: I feel that the poem captured, to a large extent, the all or nothing emotionality of mysticism.
Storm Nordwind: Meaningful to read and useful to read can be independent though. This has been useful to me but not meaningful.
Mickorod Renard: do you think we should stick to more clinical books, like Maxines before?
Eliza Madrigal: My hope is that once the group is really up and onward, the rest will have a more open feeling
Eliza Madrigal: the group of birds*
Agatha Macbeth ponders clinical books
Bruce Mowbray ponders up and onward.
Bruce Mowbray: is that transcendence?
Mickorod Renard: yes Eliza, I was supprised that they have not taken flight yet
Eliza Madrigal: I think book reading for us is complex and that it helps to have a 'teacher' sometimes
Eliza Madrigal: or someone well on their way, though not strictly necessary
Agatha Macbeth: Basically I think I'm just impatient and want them to get on with it
Bruce Mowbray doesn't have a whole lot of faith and teachers, I guess.
Mickorod Renard: that would be nice Eliza, although then we risk being steered in a direction
Eliza Madrigal: hahah Agatha :)
Bruce Mowbray: in teachers*
Bleu Oleander: I think we're capable of reading without a teacher and I like that we offer different interpretations and can discuss them all
Bruce Mowbray nods and agrees with aggers.
Bruce Mowbray: no, it was Mick I agreed with.
Bruce Mowbray: sorry, aggers.
Mickorod Renard: agrees with Bleu
Agatha Macbeth: YW
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Eliza Madrigal: sure, capable, just that it can be helpful sometimes, as with maxine peeking in once in a while
Agatha Macbeth: Wish she'd peek more often
Mickorod Renard: but as with Eliza, some guide would help someone who knows the techy stuff
Bruce Mowbray: so for Thursday, what's the menu?
Bleu Oleander: well who's to say how to interpret a book ... even authors aren't aware of how their books get understood many times
Mickorod Renard: we gotta read what we should have for today
Agatha Macbeth: Or if they do
Bleu Oleander: I say once they put it out there let everyone get what they want from it
Mickorod Renard: up to 'the valley of unity
Eliza Madrigal: can it be both?
Storm Nordwind reflects that Thursday's menu for him is burrito and fries followed by cheesecake flauta and ice cream
Bruce Mowbray: Can anyone suggest a place (besides Kindle) that I can find the entire text?
Agatha Macbeth loves a guy who gets hispriorities right
Mickorod Renard: look at the bible and see how many types of church
Bruce Mowbray loves cheesecake.
Bruce Mowbray: Good analogy, Mick.
Agatha Macbeth: Quite a few Mick
Eliza Madrigal: I have 2 versions on kindle and neither are clearly numbered or sectioned
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmm.
Bleu Oleander: me too
Agatha Macbeth: Hmmm
Bruce Mowbray: Well then, how about an oni?
Agatha Macbeth: Y not
Bruce Mowbray: onigokko
Bruce Mowbray: stop
Eliza Madrigal is amazed to be wearing this for once
Bleu Oleander: always forget to oni-up :)
Bruce Mowbray: Opps. Time for me to be a-scraping now that I've worked up an appitite.
Agatha Macbeth: Again again
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: bye Bruce
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Storm Nordwind: Bye Bruce
Mickorod Renard: if you can find 'a sheikh in love' then u read up to that
Bleu Oleander: bye Bruce
Agatha Macbeth: Scrape well Brucie
Mickorod Renard: bye brucie
Eliza Madrigal: Okay Mick, seems simple enough
Agatha Macbeth: Thought it was a watchman
Bleu Oleander: ok thanks Mick
Mickorod Renard: or the valley of unity
--BELL--2.00
Mickorod Renard: yes, if u can focus on the watchman I would like to know what it means
Mickorod Renard: I think its divided love
Eliza Madrigal: divided?
Eliza Madrigal: heaven/earth?
Agatha Macbeth: Let's move them
Storm Nordwind chuckles
Mickorod Renard: well, for me i find it hard to love family and l
Mickorod Renard: love outside in the way the book goes
Mickorod Renard: soz, typos
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal tries to decipher
Mickorod Renard: what I mean is, a suffi has to drop everything
Storm Nordwind sees someone typing "soz" for the first time in years ;)
Mickorod Renard: even his clothes almost
Agatha Macbeth: Ha
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal: I see that, Mick
Mickorod Renard: but can this book take account for normal family lives
Storm Nordwind: A total abandonment of everything else.
Eliza Madrigal: even time
Mickorod Renard: I can see its posible to remove some of the fears and stresses that are unwarranted in a family life
Eliza Madrigal: when I was younger I could sort of romanticize that these figures gave up everything, but as I've gotten older I think more of those they gave up
Mickorod Renard: and trust more and taste the flavour of goodness
Eliza Madrigal nods
Mickorod Renard: yes Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: maybe there is sorrow in it either way
Mickorod Renard: in tsk we talked alot about attachments etc
Storm Nordwind: I gave up everything at one point in my life. I lived in a religious community with nothing to my name. It destroyed all my family relationships by the way. I'm not there nowadays, as you might guess.
Mickorod Renard: dropping and seeing the greater space etc
Bleu Oleander: I never saw the wisdom in that myself
Mickorod Renard: wow Storm, thanks for sharing that
Eliza Madrigal: in the APAPB model, there is detachment via appreciation, of what is 'here' perhaps
Storm Nordwind: Coincidentally, I read "Birds" at that time
Agatha Macbeth: Drop everythingto see what you don't have
Eliza Madrigal: Storm, wow... yes...
Bleu Oleander: interesting Storm
Eliza Madrigal: hard won wisdom
Storm Nordwind: 40 years or more ago since I reentered the world.
Mickorod Renard: This is where I am trying to get I think,
Bleu Oleander: wb :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Storm Nordwind: haha! Thank yo Bleu. You have me laughing out loud!
Bleu Oleander: ha!
Eliza Madrigal: I've given up things related to this kind of learning, but more that I came to see everything differently
Agatha Macbeth: To me that's like curing toothache by cutting your head off
Mickorod Renard: grin
Mickorod Renard: so, what can we take from this type of reading for our modern lives?
Bleu Oleander: great question Mick
Eliza Madrigal: it is hard because I think sometimes you do have to be willing to lose all, or, just keep the feeling of pull/division
Agatha Macbeth: Patience?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: sorry but I have to go ... will enjoy reading the rest of the log
Bleu Oleander: bye all :)
Eliza Madrigal: bye Bleu :)
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Bleuji
Mickorod Renard: bye Bleu, thanks for coming
Bleu Oleander: bye bye
Agatha Macbeth adjusts the horizontal hold
Storm Nordwind waves
Eliza Madrigal: well, to my picture last week, if the space ship comes, are you going? :))
Mickorod Renard: yeh, the pull /division
Agatha Macbeth: The Enterprise?
Mickorod Renard: I wouldnt want to leave my grandkids
Agatha Macbeth: Me either and I don't even have any
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Storm Nordwind: You'll miss the Rapture , Mick ;-)
Mickorod Renard: but this kind of book in a srtrange way keeps me balanced
Agatha Macbeth: You stand on it?
Mickorod Renard: he he
Storm Nordwind: Balances it on his head
Agatha Macbeth polishes Mick's head
Storm Nordwind watches the sparks fly
Mickorod Renard: otherwise I would allow my altruism to overtake me
Eliza Madrigal: perhaps one can take away that it is important to make 'times' and 'retreats', to live life in a way that appreciates its transience
Agatha Macbeth: Call me Al
Mickorod Renard: and give everything and every minute to them
Mickorod Renard: yes, I go out some nights
Agatha Macbeth: Good for you Drac
Mickorod Renard: he he
Eliza Madrigal: in a way, you are dropping attachments by being there for them Mick, even as you wrestle with it?
Eliza Madrigal: you aren't choosing one solid path
Mickorod Renard: thats true, all my usual vices
--BELL--2.15
Storm Nordwind: Love is less about what you feel and more about what you do. You do the best by your grandkids and set them an example. What more could they want?
Agatha Macbeth: Chocolate
Mickorod Renard: yeh, I might be a bad example
Agatha Macbeth: Awww
Eliza Madrigal: am sure not :) or not just
Eliza Madrigal: ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: An anti role model?
Mickorod Renard: I spoze the underlying question is, how far crazy has this world gone?
Storm Nordwind: I strongly doubt the hoopoe is setting a better example than you Mick.
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Strictly for the birds
Mickorod Renard: well, this is it, do we still have morals to stand by, or are they old fashioned?
Storm Nordwind: That is a huge topic Mick!
Mickorod Renard: or, does the book still holding values?
Storm Nordwind: Can't help with answering right now. I also have to depart.
Eliza Madrigal: which set of stairs will you take?
Agatha Macbeth admires Mick's huge topic
Storm Nordwind chuckles
Mickorod Renard: ok,,time for me to go too
Eliza Madrigal waves to Storm
Agatha Macbeth: Nice bounce Stormy!
Mickorod Renard: good q Liz
Eliza Madrigal: yup.... thought to absorb everyone's clarity but am leaving perplexed, haha
Mickorod Renard: thanks for the session chat etc
Storm Nordwind: Bye my friends. Travel safely :)
Mickorod Renard: he he
Mickorod Renard: byeeeeeee
Agatha Macbeth: Purrplexed?
Agatha Macbeth: Surely not Liz
Eliza Madrigal: puplexed
Agatha Macbeth: Hoopoeplexed
Eliza Madrigal: THAT!
Agatha Macbeth: YEP!
Eliza Madrigal: *hugs*
Agatha Macbeth: Hurgies