2018.06.11 07:00 - Amazing Grate

    The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble subbing for Eden Haihu. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

    Eden was away so it was Riddle and Rubble this morning.

    Adams Rubble: Good morning Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: how dee, Adams
    Riddle Sideways: and How Do?
    Adams Rubble: Is Eden here today?
    Riddle Sideways: can not remember
    Adams Rubble: I am OK, how are you?
    Riddle Sideways: looks around
    Riddle Sideways: nope
    Riddle Sideways: checks the checklist. OK
    Adams Rubble: Should I take the log?
    Riddle Sideways: if you want ㋡
    Adams Rubble: got it
    Riddle Sideways: hope something note worthy gets in there
    Adams Rubble: My blog is ten years old either yesterday or tomorrow

    Adams Rubble: not today. hehe
    Riddle Sideways: read that
    Riddle Sideways: get notified by email
    Adams Rubble: ohhhh
    Riddle Sideways: Follow you
    Adams Rubble: awww
    Riddle Sideways: not like a stalker :}
    Adams Rubble: I have not been blogging much lately
    Riddle Sideways: that one was special
    Riddle Sideways: Being 10 years
    Riddle Sideways: from humble beginnings
    Adams Rubble: yes time to think about where I have been and so on
    Adams Rubble: yes, from a humble avatar until now
    Riddle Sideways: what a trip
    Adams Rubble giggles

    I notice all the grass behind us

    Adams Rubble: that is some grassland behind us
    Riddle Sideways: yes, until the trees
    Adams Rubble: nice to see grassland in SL

    https://wiki.playasbeing.org/@api/deki/files/6129/=2018_06_11_002a.png

    Riddle Sideways: this laptop needs less view distance to be stable

    Adams Rubble: I crashed earlier this morning
    Riddle Sideways: a few months ago the Lindens came through
    Riddle Sideways: and fixed up the welcome center area
    Adams Rubble: ;)
    Riddle Sideways: culivated all the scrubs and tumbleweeds
    Riddle Sideways: into grasslands
    Adams Rubble: It reminds me of a Grant Wood painting
    Riddle Sideways: and a nice stand of trees
    Riddle Sideways: a few paths
    Riddle Sideways: some benchs
    Adams Rubble: ohhh
    Riddle Sideways: quite nice
    Adams Rubble: how nice
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: American Gothic for the plains of Linden land
    Riddle Sideways: 90-sec seems so long now
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: not that Grant Wood :)
    Riddle Sideways: oh?
    Riddle Sideways: which one?
    Adams Rubble: the one with the grass landscape :)
    Riddle Sideways: not 'Death on the Ridge Road' either
    Adams Rubble: https://redtreetimes.com/2014/05/14/grant-wood-landscapes/
    Riddle Sideways: Ahhhh, those
    Riddle Sideways: very peaceful rolling landscapes

    Back to the End

    Adams Rubble: the past few days I have been wondering about starting at the end
    Adams Rubble: for some reason or the other
    Riddle Sideways: yet looking back
    Riddle Sideways: there is that aspect
    Adams Rubble: I did that for the blog entry
    Adams Rubble: looking back
    Riddle Sideways: here at the end
    Riddle Sideways: looking back
    Riddle Sideways: a bit
    Adams Rubble: thought after ten years there might be something to see
    Riddle Sideways: yes, looking over a shoulder, thinking there might be something to see
    Riddle Sideways: had a recent dream.
    Adams Rubble: it would have been interesting if I could have seen what I know now ten years ago
    Adams Rubble listens
    Riddle Sideways: at first was trying to remember the dream for the journal
    Riddle Sideways: in the morning
    Riddle Sideways: then it was only the very end remembered
    Riddle Sideways: was at the end of dream
    Riddle Sideways: how did the beginning go or the middle?
    Riddle Sideways: slipping on darn pebbly sandy path and falling
    Riddle Sideways: why on that path?
    Adams Rubble: paths are dangerous
    Riddle Sideways: or was maybe TP-ed right there
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: no memory of walking up the mountain
    Riddle Sideways: just starting at the end?
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: you just made me realize something
    Riddle Sideways: /listens
    Adams Rubble: during the last ten years, I have not been on a path
    Adams Rubble: I have stayed right where i started
    Adams Rubble: no rhyme or reason to any changes in me
    Adams Rubble: shhhhh
    --BELL--

    Riddle crashed and came back a little while after the pause. SL was a little unstable ths morning. We pick up discussing paths.

    Adams Rubble: wb Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: the predicted crash happened
    Adams Rubble: I crashed earlier this morning
    Riddle Sideways: and was trying to listen to you :(
    Adams Rubble: ohhh, what was the last thing you heard?
    Riddle Sideways: missing a story of 'no path'
    Adams Rubble: [07:27] Adams Rubble: during the last ten years, I have not been on a path [07:27] Adams Rubble: I have stayed right where i started [07:27] PaB Bell: 90 second pause. Please be silent in mindfulness. [07:28] Adams Rubble: no rhyme or reason to any changes in me\
    Riddle Sideways: really?
    Adams Rubble: nothing earth shattering but if I have been on a path, it did not go very far
    Riddle Sideways: think that is really true?
    Adams Rubble: I think of a path as being organized
    Riddle Sideways: oh
    Riddle Sideways: so, the path was not the way you planned it
    Adams Rubble: I have meandered between PaB, Buddhism, Christianity and lots of other traditions and non-traditions
    Riddle Sideways: the way you painted it?
    Adams Rubble: nope
    Riddle Sideways: and had you stayed the straight and narrow path?

    I missed this comment by Riddle. The time spent has been anything but straight and narrow :).  I missed some of the following comment as well. I guess much of the source of this discussion for me were the expectations of dramatic change I had ten years ago. 

    Riddle Sideways: would you have seen and been who you now are?

    Adams Rubble: of course I was taught by Pema that there was no path :)
    Adams Rubble: I am a slightly better person now :)
    Riddle Sideways: and that you Can Not dictate the paths windings
    Adams Rubble: I learned to be wary of boxes and containers
    Riddle Sideways: hmmm
    Adams Rubble: for some reasons I thought of the cowboy song "Don't fence me in"
    Riddle Sideways: yes, a way of singing it
    Adams Rubble: (one for Riddle's tabs)
    Riddle Sideways: ha, however, nice things can come in boxes
    Adams Rubble: yes as long as it isn't oneself
    Riddle Sideways: just don't stay in one box too long. fall asleep. like the cats do
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: sorry, so many distractions just happened
    Riddle Sideways: a mind is a terrible thing to let fly
    Adams Rubble: a mataphor for the past ten years
    Adams Rubble: yes to the flying mind
    Riddle Sideways: a mind is a wonderious thing to let fly
    Adams Rubble giggles
    Riddle Sideways: once again... it depends on YOUR point of view
    Adams Rubble: Buddhists think the mind needs rigorous training
    Adams Rubble: boot camp
    Riddle Sideways: whip it into shape
    Adams Rubble: no one really knows do they
    Riddle Sideways: no out of box thoughts
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: some tell you they know
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Riddle Sideways: and want money for it
    Adams Rubble: oh them
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Riddle Sideways: or the others
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: the ones that think they have been on the Great journey
    Riddle Sideways: and have learned what you should know
    Adams Rubble: the great path
    Riddle Sideways: yes, 'They' know the great path
    Riddle Sideways: and you don't need to walk those miles
    Riddle Sideways: They will tell you
    Adams Rubble: Hummvee
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Riddle Sideways: Yet, you have been to the End
    Adams Rubble: depends what the end is
    Riddle Sideways: yes it do
    Adams Rubble: my mind hurts :)
    Riddle Sideways: and nobody going to tell you what it is
    Riddle Sideways: does it hurt from ?
    Riddle Sideways: expansion?

    Our pandora's box opens and out fly all the box metaphors

    Riddle Sideways: being in or out of some box?
    Adams Rubble: no, not that
    Riddle Sideways: the untraining
    Adams Rubble: ahhh, the box
    Riddle Sideways: or the Path
    Riddle Sideways: or the many Paths
    Adams Rubble: hehe, all that
    Riddle Sideways: the Path less seen
    Adams Rubble: but you hit something with the box
    Adams Rubble: seeing all the paths, end, etc from the vantage point of a box
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Adams Rubble: I am still building myself boxes
    Riddle Sideways: mindcraft and SL are good metaphors
    Riddle Sideways: little boxes
    Adams Rubble: don't know about mindcraft but SL can go both ways
    Riddle Sideways: the you change into you
    Adams Rubble: yes putting on Adams and Riddle
    Adams Rubble: going to pavilion
    Riddle Sideways: hearing a gong
    Adams Rubble: if you have your sound on
    Riddle Sideways: they were once wooden cubes - boxes
    Riddle Sideways: then destinations
    Riddle Sideways: then a big box
    Riddle Sideways: in the box ... out of the box
    Adams Rubble: hmmm, lots of thoughts
    Adams Rubble: trying to find ready made answers is putting oneself in a box
    Riddle Sideways: and what else was the mind going to do
    Adams Rubble: hehe
    Adams Rubble still giggling
    Riddle Sideways: sometimes it is nice to visit the store of ready made answers
    Riddle Sideways: to window shop
    Riddle Sideways: thinking Adams has done that
    Adams Rubble: brb--it is OK if you have to go
    Riddle Sideways: worn many coats
    Riddle Sideways: soon
    --BELL--
    Adams Rubble: back
    Riddle Sideways: wb
    Adams Rubble: but we did start at the end because we are here where we started
    Riddle Sideways: yes!!!! :)
    Riddle Sideways: and the band plays
    Adams Rubble: yes, what is it playing
    Adams Rubble: yesterday?
    Riddle Sideways: ticker tapes are dropping
    Riddle Sideways: the parade in your honor
    Riddle Sideways: 76 trombones
    Adams Rubble: ohhh
    Adams Rubble is grateful for the music and the parade and ticky taps but ...
    Riddle Sideways: always sticking your butt in there

    Gratefulness and Accidental Grace

    Adams Rubble: we can be grateful we are still here (at the end or wherever)
    Riddle Sideways: yes, can always be Grateful
    Riddle Sideways: Grateful for so much
    Adams Rubble: yes, thank God for gratefulness
    Riddle Sideways: not sure of "Full of Grace" tho
    Riddle Sideways: personally
    Adams Rubble: hmmm have we ever made Grace a PaB topic?
    Riddle Sideways: not sure
    Riddle Sideways: need to research and get back on that
    Riddle Sideways: maybe next week
    Adams Rubble: I have never thought much about grace
    Adams Rubble hums Amazing Grace
    Riddle Sideways: oh, just corrected it to Grateful = Full of Grate
    Adams Rubble: ohhh, it is a Christian term
    Riddle Sideways: or is that Great
    Adams Rubble: Grace. noun 1. simple elegance or refinement of movement. "she moved through the water with effortless grace" synonyms: elegance, poise, gracefulness, finesse; More
    2. (in Christian belief) the free and unmerited favor of God, as manifested in the salvation of sinners and the bestowal of blessings.
    verb 1. do honor or credit to (someone or something) by one's presence.
    Riddle Sideways: "Grace" not grate, as a mind here went off on
    Adams Rubble: that was a conversation stopper
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: mouth was running over and then stopped
    Adams Rubble: grateful = mid 16th century: from obsolete grate ‘pleasing, agreeable, thankful’ (from Latin gratus ) + -ful.
    Adams Rubble: gratitude
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: oh, thank you. that is nice
    Adams Rubble: "grace" is from the same source :)
    Riddle Sideways: from the same well. at the end of a path
    Riddle Sideways: in the woods
    Riddle Sideways: in the box
    Riddle Sideways: thankful that the Lindens made the box pretty
    Adams Rubble: wow, methinks Grace is in the Christian box but otherwise Grace is out of the box
    Adams Rubble: Being is out of the box
    Adams Rubble: Being is the Box
    Riddle Sideways: seeing grate fly out of the Box to be free
    Adams Rubble: Being is the Box of Boxes
    Adams Rubble: Being is being free of boxes
    Riddle Sideways: the Great Box Being
    Adams Rubble: ahhh, now the connection to SL
    Adams Rubble: we can play as Being
    Adams Rubble: we can play in SL
    Adams Rubble: we can play as human beings in SL
    Riddle Sideways: virtually
    Adams Rubble: yes!
    Adams Rubble: virtual. late 14c., "influencing by physical virtues or capabilities, effective with respect to inherent natural qualities," from Medieval Latin virtualis, from Latin virtus "excellence, potency, efficacy," literally "manliness, manhood" (see virtue). The meaning "being something in essence or effect, though not actually or in fact" is from mid-15c., probably via sense of "capable of producing a certain effect" (early 15c.). Computer sense of "not physically existing but made to appear by software" is attested from 1959.
    Adams Rubble adds that we can be virtually woman too :)
    Riddle Sideways: yes, written before woman
    Adams Rubble: nothing was written before women :)
    Riddle Sideways: giggles
    Adams Rubble: well maybe that is a wrap
    Adams Rubble: thank you for the conversation this morning :)
    Riddle Sideways: having soared the grate heights, they went to collect the garbage and recycling to put by the virtual curb
    Adams Rubble: curb your garbage
    Riddle Sideways: for somebody else to clean up
    Adams Rubble: ohhhh. well, we can be grateful for their service
    Riddle Sideways: have your grate day, friend
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: you too Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: bye
    Adams Rubble: bye :)

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    Thank you dear Adams for filling in for me last Monday when I was in Paris. And congratulations for your 10 years of blogging! Loved "SL was a little unstable this morning"' : Second Life as a weather phenomena! Your conversation with Riddle about boxes, paths, "Being" being a box, grace and grate is highly entertaining and profound as well. I will be back to Monday morning session this week and hoping to catch up with you about your blog. Would you have a link?
    Posted 13:43, 17 Jun 2018
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