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    The woman, finished with her pie, walks out of the warm café. The door handles’ jingle-bang sings out a cheery "goodbye".  The freezing wind blows from the icy street before her and tears away her breath for a moment. Her eyes water and the trees and buildings before her swim in her vision… the snow on the tree leaves and trunks, on the awnings on the homes and shops that line the avenue, become lit from within and appears suddenly to be very, very ALIVE and THERE.

    It Shines.

    2009.12.19 01:00 - Winter

    Vendy Walpole: it is interesting how each season initiates a different mood in us, different feelings, activities, perspectives
    Scathach Rhiadra nods
    Vendy Walpole: I love for instance when winter ties us to our homes, to the warmth inside
    Scathach Rhiadra: yes, I like that too, almost like a hibernation
    Vendy Walpole: could say that the winter for me means the time to pay attention to family, to ourselves, to think
    Vendy Walpole: and read

    2009.12.19 07:00 - Being a non English Speaker and PAB Guardian

    Vendy Walpole: As you have noticed English is not my first language and its not easy to talk about contemplative things in foreign language

    Qt Core: but sometimes telling something in another language helps to watch the subject from a little afar, from an almost outer point of view as you are worrying more about language than about standard prejudices and mental filters

    2009.12.19 13:00 - Vows and Wanting

    Liza Deischer: in tradition you can go into depth, because you have a teacher and rules
    Liza Deischer: here we want to be more open
    Liza Deischer: at the same time we still want the depth
    Liza Deischer: and I was asking myself if that really can work

    SophiaSharon Larnia: does being open exclude depth, or is it just touching on the surface of many things?
    Liza Deischer: My opinion is that if you want depth
    Liza Deischer: you need to know how to approach it
    Eliza Madrigal: and still do, to some extent. Traditional teachers and PaB can be quite complimentary I think... BUT... at the same time, there is this phenomenon with the kinds of exercises we jump into here, that we touch deeper places before we realize it
    Liza Deischer: otherwise good concepts can be use in a wrong way

    Liza Deischer: we get into depth before we realise it ourselves
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Used in the wrong way how, Liza, because they are superficially addressed?

    Liza Deischer: thats the whole point

    Liza Deischer: so you can make anything out of that

    Eliza Madrigal: There is a sense, at least in my scope, that it is important to connect with people from all kinds of backgrounds... to find essential

    Eliza Madrigal: while at the same time being dedicated deeply to what resonates for oneself


    2009.12.19 19:00 - Solstices, Winter & Summer

    Eden Haiku: Do you call it the summer solstice?
    Marvin Dailey: yes
    Eden Haiku: A different reality ;-)

    Calvino Rabeni: Funny there is no objective term for it
    Calvino Rabeni: Independent of which hemisphere you are in
    Marvin Dailey: how so?
    Calvino Rabeni: you call "it" summer solstice, I call "it" winter solstice

    Calvino Rabeni: but "it" has no name
    Marvin Dailey: but what is this "it"?

    2009.12.20 01:00 - block head

    2009.12.20 07:00 – Pizza and Onion

    Aidan Spiritor: Closest I have come to'experiencing reality' is glimpses of understanding "emptiness is form, form is emptiness"..

    Bertram Jacobus: we had some or even some more talks here relating to the topic emptiness and some were not very comfortable with it and others were ... hm ;-)

    Eliza Madrigal: For it is one of those brilliant things that has layers which open up into one another, in a way

    Vendy Walpole: I often ask myself how many layers the "reality" has

    Bertram Jacobus: the core emptiness and the layers form
    Vendy Walpole: The core would be Being and ultimate reality and the layers are creation of the mind


    2009.12.20 13:00 - Openness and dropping

    Mickorod Renard: breaking the mould that one finds oneself in takes time
    Maxine Walden: yes, so much familiar drawing us back...
    Mickorod Renard: peeling off the layers of lenses

    Maxine Walden: For me it feels useful to consider that there are states of mind we all know and at times inhabit which resist change, growth and the new...resort more to 'tradition' with perhaps cynicism for any change
    Wol Euler nods.
    Maxine Walden: the 'gravitational' pull toward the familiar

    arabella Ella: i had to deal with a small family health emergency tonite
    arabella Ella: and during the pause i realised
    arabella Ella: how easy it is to let go of practically everything ... drop literally everything ... when such emergencies occur

    arabella Ella: for me Aubergine when someone needs my support urgently I just stop thinking who i am, yes

    2009.12.20 19:00 - Breath

    Eden Haiku: Could you teach me this breathing exercise Storm?

    Storm Nordwind: The meditation was ostensibly on the breath, but the idea was to meditate on the energy driving the breath, which hopefully is there all the time. I guess it was a kind of pranayama.
    Storm Nordwind: I found that I could focus on this constant wave of energy flowing through me constantly. Never forgot how to do it! :)

    Storm Nordwind: If you have a portable focal point that you can access at will at any time of the day, that can have a progressively big effect

    Storm Nordwind: The portable focal point is basically this constant energy wave coursing through you. Once you have it, it's hard to ignore it. Yet you can function in the world and do everything else just as before, only with improved focus and poise

    2009.12.21 01:00 - My Christmas Blog

    Calvino Rabeni: The pause is coming up. Do I have a focus for it?
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, I will let my environment appear and my tasks disappear.

    2009.12.21 07:00 - Talking on the shortest day

    Weather reports and Poetry from four corners of the world

    2009.12.21 13:00 - It communicates you

    Gaya Ethaniel wonders if we can talk about 'right/wholesome speech' ... :)

    Gaya Ethaniel: So when I said I couldn't filter very well before speaking, I was told not to say anything unless it needs to be said ...

    Calvino Rabeni: Well one thing is, it communicates you.

    Gaya Ethaniel: I guess speech is an expression ... like physical gesture so it's related to my point re: harming oneself/others by 'false' speech.

    Calvino Rabeni: I see reason to keep the mindfulness part of it
    Gaya Ethaniel: As part of a practice Calvino?
    Calvino Rabeni: So one could be mindful while chit chat
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)

    2009.12.21 19:00 - Midwinter Night

    Storm Nordwind: Can there not be beautiful expression without need or benefit? Just because it 'is'?
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, it is benefit by being
    Storm Nordwind: Benefit is only a benefit if it matches a need. The universe may prosper but does it need?
    -- BELL --
    Calvino Rabeni: It moves, it plays, I don't really have much opinion about "need"
    Calvino Rabeni: the birds sing, the water runs downhill, vapors rise
    Calvino Rabeni: things happen without a purpose or objective
    Storm Nordwind: and without meaning
    Calvino Rabeni: yes and no
    Calvino Rabeni: no external meaning
    Storm Nordwind: no inherently existent meaning

    Calvino Rabeni: unless other things inherently exist, then it is the same
    Calvino Rabeni: the meaning is not anything "about" something else
    Calvino Rabeni: that is, meaning is not a theory
    Calvino Rabeni: (although part if it may be "theory" since people love making those up)
    Storm Nordwind: Sure. So what do you believe meaning is?
    Calvino Rabeni: For me, it is the pattern of what happens, as it appears to awareness
    Calvino Rabeni: That is, the part of it I can apprehend.
    Calvino Rabeni: And I'd have to say, the un-apprehended part plays into it also
    Calvino Rabeni: So perhaps I should call that meaning also
    Calvino Rabeni: To allow for uncomprehended meanings
    Calvino Rabeni: The pattern is not complete, however
    Calvino Rabeni: It is not fixed; it keeps changing
    Calvino Rabeni: So it's not that kind of conventional pattern, I suppose
    Storm Nordwind: It has always changed, and will always change.


    It Shines.

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