2009.12.21 13:00 - It communicates you

The Guardian for this meeting was Stim Morane. The comments are by Stim Morane.

Calvino Rabeni: Good day, Scath
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Calvino!
--BELL--
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Stim:)
Stim Morane: Hi Scathach
Calvino Rabeni: Hi Stim!
Stim Morane: Hi Calvino
Scathach Rhiadra: so, how are you both today?
Stim Morane: OK ... And you?
Scathach Rhiadra: fine, ty
Calvino Rabeni: I am well
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello everyone :)
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello gaya:)
Stim Morane: Hi Gaya
Calvino Rabeni: Hiya Gaya :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Bunny is back by popular demand ... ^^;;;
Stim Morane: :)
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Stim Morane: The cat was good too
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Stim, Gaya, Scath, and Cal :)
Stim Morane: Hi Eliza
Eliza Madrigal smiles at gaya
Gaya Ethaniel nods :D
Scathach Rhiadra: yes, but did you realise how the disembodied head of the bunny was attached to it?
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Eliza:)
Gaya Ethaniel: The script hides the avatar by burying beneath ground.
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Eliza, SophiaSharon :)
Stim Morane: disembodied head?
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi everyone
Eliza Madrigal: oooh..couldn't see that
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sharon :)
Gaya Ethaniel: It's too yucky to show heheheh
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello sophiasharon
SophiaSharon Larnia: waves
Stim Morane: Hi SophiaSharon
Gaya Ethaniel wonders if we can talk about 'right/wholesome speech' ... :)
Stim Morane: What's your view re that?
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Agatha :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Gaya
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello agatha
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Agatha :) Festive!
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Scath
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Agatha
Stim Morane: hi Santa Agatha
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Eliza :)
Agatha Macbeth: Cheers Stim :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Father used to quote Confucius re: good speech ... and I've been thinking about it beyond obvious reasons ie. harm oneself/others.
Agatha Macbeth: Hello SSL
Calvino Rabeni: Agatha, Hello, what a surprise :0
Agatha Macbeth: Say what Cal?
Gaya Ethaniel: Filtering 3 times before speaking and be aware of while and after ... can't remember exactly word by word. I hope to look up over Christmas holiday.
Calvino Rabeni: Ah, your big red av sat on my cam position, it was funny :)
Agatha Macbeth: Still 2D Gaya?
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Oh sorry!
Agatha Macbeth: (Woooops)
SophiaSharon Larnia: lol Calvino
Calvino Rabeni: Kikd of fun, no problem :)
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Intersting Gaya
Eliza Madrigal: *Interesting rather
Agatha Macbeth: Aha 3D!
SophiaSharon Larnia: well, Gaya, if I did that I would never talk
Gaya Ethaniel: There you go ... :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes SophiaSharon, my parents have high standards ... ^^;;;
Eliza Madrigal: Oh now you are just showing off ;-D
Agatha Macbeth: Love the antlers Gaya :)
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: :P
Eliza Madrigal giggles (kidding-that's great)
Agatha Macbeth: What about the red nose?
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh sweet avi Gaya
Gaya Ethaniel digs deep ...
SophiaSharon Larnia: and Agatha
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: there ... red nose ... hard to please this crowd ... :)
Stim Morane: Hi Liza
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Liza :)
Agatha Macbeth: TY!
SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
Liza Deischer: hi everybody
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Liza
SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Liza
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Liza
Gaya Ethaniel: So when I said I couldn't filter very well before speaking, I was told not to say anything unless it needs to be said ...
Stim Morane: you're the very spirit of Christmas, Gaya
Agatha Macbeth: Yup
Gaya Ethaniel: But anyway, other than harm, why does one need to be aware of speech in your opinion?
Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks :)
Calvino Rabeni: Well one thing is, it communicates you.
--BELL--
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Mila :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Mila
Mila Greene: hey :)
Stim Morane: Hi Mila
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mila :)
Liza Deischer: hi Mila
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Mila
Mila Greene: wow, gaya - that's a nice outfit :)
Gaya Ethaniel: ty :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hello again Alf :)
Calvino Rabeni: Ah, gaya you are rudolf
Gaya Ethaniel: I don't have lm so search by the maker for her shop --Ephe Luik
Gaya Ethaniel: lol
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Mila Greene: you look like some noble person with servants around you :)
Gaya Ethaniel: ack
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Zon
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Zon
Liza Deischer: hi Zon
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Zon :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zon :) Fancy
Zon Quar: hi
Stim Morane: hi Zon
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Zon
Agatha Macbeth: 007 eat your heart out
SophiaSharon Larnia: grins
Gaya Ethaniel: I guess speech is an expression ... like physical gesture so it's related to my point re: harming oneself/others by 'false' speech.
Eliza Madrigal: I relate to what Sharon said, re not speaking if one tried to filter 3 times... was raised with 'don't speak until spoken to" and that was difficult to shake :)
Calvino Rabeni: There is a lot of room between true and false - lots of qualities maybe neither true or false
Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
Eliza Madrigal: *not speaking until after one... rather. Sigh. Funny fingers today
SophiaSharon Larnia: i also meant the contant censoring
SophiaSharon Larnia: constant*
Eliza Madrigal nods, and yet i guess it is about just paying attention and depends on the spirit in which it is approached?
Calvino Rabeni: Does the habit live on, Eliza?
SophiaSharon Larnia: speech can be a gift too
SophiaSharon Larnia: to others
Eliza Madrigal: It pops up occasionially, Cal, like a gopher
Calvino Rabeni: :)
Eliza Madrigal: "Oh, I thought you were gone, darn" :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Storm :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Storm! :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Storm :)
Liza Deischer: hi Storm
Stim Morane: hi Storm
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello storm
Storm Nordwind: Hi everyone!
Agatha Macbeth: Yo Storm!
Gaya Ethaniel smiles @ the expression 'gopher'.
Eliza Madrigal: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: thank you for the ice rink, Storm, I had fun playing there the other day with my friends :P
Storm Nordwind: I'm very pleased! You are welcome :)
Agatha Macbeth: How about a game of curling?
Stim Morane: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: lol
Storm Nordwind: Great idea.
Agatha Macbeth: i *love* curling!
Liza Deischer: huh?
Storm Nordwind: Great game, little played outside a small island
Stim Morane: :)
Agatha Macbeth: invented by the Scots?
Gaya Ethaniel: Big in Canada too I think.
Storm Nordwind: No one knows for sure
Liza Deischer: on land or ice?
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, in Canada
Agatha Macbeth: And the Scandanavian countries too
Gaya Ethaniel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curling
Storm Nordwind: On ice. records point to its existence up to 500 years ago close by to where I emigrated from
Agatha Macbeth: where was that Storm?
Storm Nordwind: Renfrew
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, excuse my ignorance
Gaya Ethaniel: So ... why is 'right' speech important for you?
Liza Deischer: hi Ara
Agatha Macbeth: hello Ara :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello arabella :)
arabella Ella: Hiya
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ara :)
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Ara
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Arabella
--BELL--
Gaya Ethaniel notices Stim's tag ... lol ... read his new profile ... rofl
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Zen
Zen Arado: Hi all
Liza Deischer: hi Zen
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zen :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Zen :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Zen
Zon Quar: called away he waves to all and flies quietly...
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Zon
Stim Morane: yes, I got tagged by some mischief maker
Zen Arado: bye Zon
Liza Deischer: bye Zon
Stim Morane: by zon, hi arabella
Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
Gaya Ethaniel: ah Stim just leave that group, Creamshop ...
Gaya Ethaniel: It's a lovely shop but ... I'm guessing you by mistake clicked 'Join Group'.
Stim Morane: probably ...
Eliza Madrigal: Stim is a mystery
Gaya Ethaniel: lol it's advisable never to 'Accept', 'OK', 'Join' etc etc unless it's from someone you know.
SophiaSharon Larnia: aww i like it :)
Stim Morane: :)
Storm Nordwind: Perhaps ice cream is a metaphor for the nature of reality
Eliza Madrigal: That might even be his group
Gaya Ethaniel giggles.
SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
SophiaSharon Larnia: well, theres i love homework
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, love that... ice cream as reality :)
Agatha Macbeth: With a flake :)
Stim Morane: :)
Storm Nordwind delights in the ambiguity of Agatha's Britishism
Eliza Madrigal: gaya was there something on your mind specifically about right speech?
Agatha Macbeth: Me too Storm!
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Just curious about others' opinions ... :)
Agatha Macbeth: Just never confuse a 99 with a 69 ;-)
Eliza Madrigal: for me your question brought up thinking about new years resolutions.. and 'right time', which also for me has to do with right speech in a way... trying not to be so chit chatty :)
Gaya Ethaniel: If anyone has seen good reasons for keeping that moral code beyond obvious reasons as I said.
Gaya Ethaniel: What's wrong with chit chat anyway ...? Can you expand a bit more on 'right time' re: speech?
Calvino Rabeni: I see reason to keep the mindfulness part of it
Gaya Ethaniel: As part of a practice Calvino?
Calvino Rabeni: So one could be mindful while chit chat
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Calvino Rabeni: Yes as part of living
SophiaSharon Larnia: I've heard it said that levity in speech means no one will listen to what you say, I don't think i agree with that, but is that a part of it.
Gaya Ethaniel nods.
Eliza Madrigal: just becoming a bit more structured, Gaya, and there isn't anything 'wrong' with it just that for me I think it would be helpful not to blabber so much... hah
Zen Arado: "when words are many sin is not absent" Proverbs
Agatha Macbeth: You blabber Eliza? :)
Eliza Madrigal: it is a new years gift for others :)
Gaya Ethaniel doesn't think Eliza blabbers ... :)
Storm Nordwind: Levity in spontaneous but small measure can lighten a dead heart
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
Eliza Madrigal: :) Thanks. I always run over my own resolutions by Feb so don't worry
Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Agatha Macbeth: hee hee
Calvino Rabeni: Eliza's "blabber" has very high signal to noise amount
Storm Nordwind: hear hear
Agatha Macbeth: Uh huh
Zen Arado: yes
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
Eliza Madrigal: sweet, thanks
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Yaku :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Yakuzza
Zen Arado: Hi Yaku
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ya :)
Stim Morane: Hi Yakuzza
Agatha Macbeth: Hi to your tea too :)
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Yakuzza
Eliza Madrigal: haah
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Yakuzza :)
Eliza Madrigal: Ya's tea enters before he does
Liza Deischer: hi Yaku
Gaya Ethaniel: For me everything you've said has been insightful and delightful Eliza :)
Agatha Macbeth: As always!
Eliza Madrigal: oh my. Thank you Gaya. You should read more... but thanks. It isn't really about that.. maybe it has to do with 'intoxication' too... getting carried away, etc
Liza Deischer: getting off focus?
Calvino Rabeni: Ask Rumi about intoxication
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Zen Arado: but is spontaneous
Liza Deischer: as adistration?
Eliza Madrigal: Yes, Liza, I guess so. We'll see. I wonder how many of us in this large group make resolutions...
Agatha Macbeth: Not me, no point
Eliza Madrigal: :)
--BELL--
arabella Ella: i've given up on resolutions for NY but they can be made at any time when appropriate
Agatha Macbeth: New Year or New York Gaya?
Liza Deischer: there is a problem with resolution with NY, because most of the time it means that it is not coming form insight
Liza Deischer: it is more a time you focus on
Liza Deischer: and then use willpower to get there
Eliza Madrigal: Well, I do agree with that Liza. Then again sometimes one has something on the back-burner and takes the opportunity/momentum of a particular day...
Liza Deischer: Ik go with ara
Liza Deischer: true either
Storm Nordwind: Some people claim to need artificial boundaries and deadlines to get anything done at all.
Gaya Ethaniel: New Year or New York ... Agatha?
arabella Ella: i find tho that some ppl just tend to reflect at the end of the year ... a bit like splurging on good intentions which are so short lived
Gaya Ethaniel: ah you were asking arabella maybe.
Agatha Macbeth: Sorry, I meant Ara
arabella Ella: Oh ... New Year Gaya
Eliza Madrigal: yes and there is a bit of a natural window, Ara, too
Eliza Madrigal: change in schedules, etc
arabella Ella: maybe but it is so arbitrary i find
Zen Arado: a bit of rare introspection
Gaya Ethaniel: Fore me, more specific resolutions are less time-scale I attach to them ... works better for me that way.
Eliza Madrigal nods
Gaya Ethaniel: shorter time-scale*
Zen Arado: should evolve more naturally
Calvino Rabeni: The start of a year is symbolic as much as artificial, and as symbolic, I think it is good for people to lend it their power
Eliza Madrigal: well it is something that goes on all the time, too
Zen Arado: just come to a point where you outgrow some habit
Zen Arado: so easier to let go
Storm Nordwind: Today is the shortest day of the year in the notrhern hemisphere. If anyone craves less artificiality, today is an opportunity
Zen Arado: that's the theory anyway :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: or realize you outgrew it, from the artificial boundary
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes happy solstice :)
Stim Morane: :)
arabella Ella: yes ... shortest day ... and seems like one of the coldest too :)
Eliza Madrigal: Happy Solstice all
Liza Deischer: I think a boundary like ny can be usefull, but that depends on the symbolism, not the time
Liza Deischer: itself
arabella Ella: Happy Winter Solstice!
Gaya Ethaniel: I didn't make the solstic beansoup ... well made something red anyway.
Gaya Ethaniel chases evil spirits away!
Storm Nordwind is relishing the 7:15am sunrise... so much earlier than what he's used to in northern Europe
Agatha Macbeth: :)
arabella Ella: :)
Eliza Madrigal: oh my... I thought the bean soup is new years... or rather my great grandmother did :)
Liza Deischer: bean soup, NY, I think om lost here
Liza Deischer: :)
Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
Gaya Ethaniel: This is sweet red bean [azuki] soup with rice dumping ... :) People drops some around the house to chase evil spirits ...
Agatha Macbeth: Me too Liza :)
Zen Arado: what beans?
Storm Nordwind: /me's tummy rumbles
Zen Arado: wants recipe :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: sounds delicious :)
Eliza Madrigal: oh, that sounds much more fun than what we ate on new years... along the lines of a 16 bean soup...
Liza Deischer: okay, never heard of before :)
Gaya Ethaniel: http://www.sangbum.com/maro/entry/%E...%A0?category=0
Eliza Madrigal thinks her kids would have a ball with that ritual :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
Storm Nordwind: At New Year you can eat "has been" soup! ;)
Eliza Madrigal: haahha
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Agatha Macbeth: There's a has-been fly in my has-been soup
Gaya Ethaniel: ?
Agatha Macbeth: That's for the awaiter :)
arabella Ella: Gaya I cant read that recipie :(
Zen Arado: looks nice but my Japanese not good :(
Eliza Madrigal: 'what a year it has been', gaya :)
Agatha Macbeth: waiter
Gaya Ethaniel: ah ...
Agatha Macbeth: i blame Jack Daniels
Stim Morane: :)
arabella Ella: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Or my (hic!) fingers
Gaya Ethaniel: lol
arabella Ella: poor Jack always gets the blame
Eliza Madrigal: he seems to want it
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: In my case with total justification :)
arabella Ella: he he
Gaya Ethaniel: wwahhh I'm giggling a lot.
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Stop it Gaya
Agatha Macbeth: Calm down
Agatha Macbeth: You'll bust an antler
Gaya Ethaniel: I stopped until you asked me to stop Agatha lol
Eliza Madrigal guffaws
Storm Nordwind has poured some "Christmas Spirit" in the pool
Agatha Macbeth: heeeheee
Eliza Madrigal: Cheers!
Agatha Macbeth: i think i drank some!
Zen Arado: I have a bottle in my inventory
Zen Arado: but hesitatto drink it
Zen Arado: very strong
Agatha Macbeth: Tell hesitatto to buy his own :)
Liza Deischer: pass it on Zen
Calvino Rabeni: here's to it!
Gaya Ethaniel: ^^;;;
Liza Deischer: thanks Zen
Liza Deischer: :)
Eliza Madrigal: I must go. Fun to see you all today :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah!
Calvino Rabeni: To the new year!
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Eliza
Liza Deischer: bye eliza
Gaya Ethaniel: Bye Eliza :)
Agatha Macbeth: By Eliza :)
Scathach Rhiadra: bye Eliza
Stim Morane: bye Eliza
Zen Arado: bye Eliza
Agatha Macbeth: Or even bye
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks so much :) Bye for now
arabella Ella: bye Eliza
Scathach Rhiadra: me too, good night all:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye, everyone also going to the time oorkshop
Agatha Macbeth: Careful Zen!
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Scathach
Gaya Ethaniel: Me too, see you all later!
Stim Morane: bye Scathach!
arabella Ella: bye Zaku
Agatha Macbeth: C ya Scath
arabella Ella: bye Gaya
SophiaSharon Larnia: Bye Gaya
Zen Arado: bye Gaya Scath
Storm Nordwind: Namaste
Agatha Macbeth: I said *careful* Zen!
Stim Morane: must go too
Stim Morane: bye everyone. Happy holidays
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye all. have to go too lol
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Stim
Agatha Macbeth: (Was it something I said?)
Liza Deischer: it has some sideeffets Zen!!
arabella Ella: bye Stim
arabella Ella: bye SophiaSharon
Liza Deischer: bye everyone
--BELL--
Zen Arado: sure has
Agatha Macbeth: Bye all
Agatha Macbeth: Not you too Liza
arabella Ella: Lisaaaaaa??!!!
arabella Ella: ?me smiles
Calvino Rabeni: Once you drink it you won't be the same again...
Liza Deischer: I start to realise that, I think :)
Agatha Macbeth: Well on that drunken note think I'll (hic!) leave, bye bye!
Liza Deischer: bye Agatha
Zen Arado: bye Agatha
arabella Ella: bye Agatha enjoy rest of evening!
Calvino Rabeni: Same with this one - bye all.
arabella Ella: bye Calvino
Zen Arado: bye \cal
Liza Deischer: im going too, if I can make it home :)
arabella Ella: drive carefully Liza
Liza Deischer: bye everyone
Zen Arado: ha ha me too
Liza Deischer: I will
arabella Ella: bye Zen
arabella Ella: :)
Zen Arado: better not drive :)
Zen Arado: bye all
arabella Ella: bye