2018.06.09 19:00 - Future Us

The Guardian for this meeting was stevenaia Michinaga. The comments are by stevenaia Michinaga.

Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Bleu
stevenaia Michinaga: love the loo
Bleu Oleander: hey Steve
stevenaia Michinaga: look
Bleu Oleander: ty!
Bleu Oleander: how's things?
stevenaia Michinaga: things are good, time to gather the land gifts, I suppose and send out the notices
Bleu Oleander: yes, I see a couple donated
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, no idea how they figured that out
Bleu Oleander: its easy really
Bleu Oleander: just open the group profile
stevenaia Michinaga: that an iPHONE IN YUR HAND?
Bleu Oleander: ha! yes
stevenaia Michinaga: you have been shopping for sewing?
Bleu Oleander: a robot wouldn't be complete without one!
Bleu Oleander: sewing?
stevenaia Michinaga: what have you been up too
stevenaia Michinaga: to
Bleu Oleander: well busy with rl and dog training :)
stevenaia Michinaga: dog training?
stevenaia Michinaga: no pup?
stevenaia Michinaga: new
Bleu Oleander: yes, our puppy isn't really a puppy now, but more of a rebellious teenager :)
Bleu Oleander: seems we have to train her all over again
stevenaia Michinaga: good luck, he'll never move out
Bleu Oleander: ha!
stevenaia Michinaga: so are those faces you are wearing something you choose ?

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Bleu Oleander: I made the texture yes
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Bleu Oleander: its cycling through the different faces
stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps there is a market for avatars w/ multiple personalities
Bleu Oleander: I think so!
stevenaia Michinaga: what were you doing upstairs?
Bleu Oleander: btw, if anyone needs help donating their land I'd be happy to walk them through it
Bleu Oleander: I was just playing with textures
stevenaia Michinaga: I'll add that to the email, thanks,
Bleu Oleander: feel free to drop by
Bleu Oleander: I experiment with different ideas up there
stevenaia Michinaga: is it our sandbox?
stevenaia Michinaga: where is there?
Bleu Oleander: its up over my Mieum land
Bleu Oleander: I gave you a LM
stevenaia Michinaga: thx is that where San builds/
Bleu Oleander: no this is over my land
Bleu Oleander: she has spaces over her land
Bleu Oleander: there are a few spaces over my Mieum plot
Bleu Oleander: feel free to check them out
Bleu Oleander: I built a new space on the ground ... don't know what to do with it yet
Bleu Oleander: maybe another gallery space
stevenaia Michinaga: :), another meeting place?
Bleu Oleander: just what we need!
stevenaia Michinaga: lol
Bleu Oleander: I might do a summer art project there
stevenaia Michinaga: won;t the other gallery be available?
Bleu Oleander: it will
Bleu Oleander: perhaps 2 projects :)
stevenaia Michinaga: what are the themes you were thinking of for the project
Bleu Oleander: haven't gotten that far yet
Bleu Oleander: I'll see what the next book will be
stevenaia Michinaga: awww, start with a deadline, the rest will follow
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bleu Oleander: I read about an interesting show at the MET
Bleu Oleander: on the rooftop
Bleu Oleander: you might check it out if you're in the city
Bleu Oleander: https://www.metmuseum.org/exhibition...18/huma-bhabha
stevenaia Michinaga: currently? was just at the Whitney last week for the grant Wood show, didn't have time for the MET that day :(
Bleu Oleander: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/07/arts/design/art-and-museums-in-nyc-this-week.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimesarts
Bleu Oleander: the summer on the MET roof exhibition
Bleu Oleander: will be up thru Oct
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stevenaia Michinaga: very interesting, thx
Bleu Oleander: I love to go up and have lunch there
stevenaia Michinaga: looks like SL
Bleu Oleander: yes :)
Bleu Oleander: anything good at the Whitney?
Bleu Oleander: was it nice weather to walk the Highline?
stevenaia Michinaga: Grant Wood was was far more interesting an artist than i expected
Bleu Oleander: ah yes, I would like to see that
Bleu Oleander: we might do a group trip this fall to nyc
stevenaia Michinaga: no Highline that day, mainly Deli lunch at Katz's, mom wanted up to pick up some Pastrami, so we went to the Whitney after
Bleu Oleander: good combo :)
stevenaia Michinaga: there was a strange (by my standards) next door to Grant Woods, Zoe Leonard... never heard of her but it left me empty
stevenaia Michinaga: https://whitney.org/Exhibitions/ZoeLeonard
Bleu Oleander: hi Storm
stevenaia Michinaga: 140 feet of Niagara Falls postcards
Storm Nordwind: Good evening friends!
stevenaia Michinaga: hi storm
Bleu Oleander: I don't know her work
Bleu Oleander: we're talking art in NYC
Storm Nordwind: nice!
stevenaia Michinaga: I never heard of her either but there she was with a retrospective
stevenaia Michinaga: https://whitney.org/Exhibitions/ZoeLeonard
Bleu Oleander: I'll have to read up
stevenaia Michinaga: sometimes I feel the critics just can't stop themselves
Bleu Oleander: yes :)
Bleu Oleander: how's your library coming Storm?
Storm Nordwind: Slowly!
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Storm Nordwind: Keep finding prims I can save
Bleu Oleander: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: we were talking about deadlines earlier, the great motivator
Storm Nordwind: Sometimes they are.
Storm Nordwind: Sometimes not.
Storm Nordwind: When there is no real need and the deadline is imposed arbitrarily from outside, it merely generates resentment or loss of credibility.
stevenaia Michinaga: that's what I tell my clients
Storm Nordwind: Ah but with clients, if you agree to a deadline, then it is no longer imposed from outside.
Bleu Oleander: :)
Storm Nordwind: Then you have a commitment you have agreed to honor.
stevenaia Michinaga: just arbitrary
stevenaia Michinaga: + agreement
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Storm Nordwind: The secret is in the word 'agreement'. In the grander scheme of things, it's arguably all arbitrary. But in the scheme of human relations, it is no longer arbitrary as things like honor and credibility have been accepted voluntarily to be at stake.
Bleu Oleander: nods
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, true
Storm Nordwind: By the way, Bleu. Your orange "I am typing" effects remind me every time of marine gill extensions or feeding feathers! :)
Bleu Oleander: ha!
Storm Nordwind: Like then :)
Storm Nordwind: It's so accurate, they may have been modeled on undersea documentary footage!
Bleu Oleander: really, that's fun
Bleu Oleander: I've been waiting for the temp to go down enough to walk the pup ... but wishful thinking ... still 102!
Storm Nordwind: Ouch!
stevenaia Michinaga: yikes, comes with the season
Bleu Oleander: but should take her ... summer is def here!
Storm Nordwind: Only 85 here, though the AC is on so nice and cool inside.
Bleu Oleander: yes what would we do without our AC!
Storm Nordwind: Cook!
Bleu Oleander: yep
stevenaia Michinaga: cool 72 here, just a bit humid
Bleu Oleander: no humidity here
Storm Nordwind: I remember that humidity stuff, back in Scotland ;)
Bleu Oleander: yes I remember it in NYC
Bleu Oleander: well have a nice evening ... take care
Storm Nordwind: Pleasant walk!
stevenaia Michinaga: night Bleu, keep cool
Bleu Oleander: ty!
Bleu Oleander: bfn
Storm Nordwind waves
stevenaia Michinaga: that was a most interesting Avatar
Storm Nordwind: Was this the first time you've seen it?
stevenaia Michinaga: yes
Storm Nordwind: I think that was Bleu's Imagined Future Self, though I may be misremembering
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stevenaia Michinaga: hmmm future self, never thought about it, other than older
Storm Nordwind chuckles
Storm Nordwind: That was a theme of the anniversary celebrations. When Santoshima kindly contacted me to read at the event, she mentioned that was one of the themes.
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Storm Nordwind: I'm guessing Bleu was hinting at what I believe is called Transhumanism.
Storm Nordwind: Though perhaps that was a full replacement together with uploading consciousness somewhere
stevenaia Michinaga: awww, I remember there was a PaB participant who was very connected to such things
Storm Nordwind: Yes, I recall that too, but not who. Long time ago I think.
stevenaia Michinaga: my first exposure to the therm
stevenaia Michinaga: ye
stevenaia Michinaga: s
Storm Nordwind: In a small way I guess it has already started, with artificial hips and knees and whatnot. Though i could be wrong, as that may not be included in the scope of Transhumanism.
Storm Nordwind: I remember when I first saw the term I was confused between it and Humanism!
stevenaia Michinaga: I suspect it's physical as well as other enhancements
stevenaia Michinaga: the reversal of human's feeling of inadequacy perhaps?
stevenaia Michinaga: the eternal needing more
Storm Nordwind: I suspect simply wishing to fulfill one's potential using any means possible. Plus, perhaps in some cases, a grab at immortality.
stevenaia Michinaga: I would imagine a Transhuman hip replacement would be an enhancement, not just a replacement
Storm Nordwind: I suspect you're right
stevenaia Michinaga: laser eye correction better than 20/20, etc
stevenaia Michinaga: so perhaps it has begun
stevenaia Michinaga: at least the pre-borg version of us
Storm Nordwind: Yes. Though they'll have to do better than that, as mine has declined to 20/20! ;)
Storm Nordwind: Cybord... that's the word I was looking for, thank you!
Storm Nordwind: *Cyborg
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
stevenaia Michinaga: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyborg
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stevenaia Michinaga: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhuman
Storm Nordwind: 5 hits for transhumanism in that Wikipedia article
Storm Nordwind: In the meantime, it can make for entertaining fiction. And avatars. :)
stevenaia Michinaga: nods, on that note, eyes are getting tired even though I had a late Greek coffee at the local Greek church food fest
Storm Nordwind: And I wonder whether cosmetic surgery counts too. The Korean wife of a friend told me an astonishing proportion of Korean women had had cosmetic surgery, around 30%
stevenaia Michinaga: will probably up in a few hours
Storm Nordwind: Thank you for hosting then. :)
Storm Nordwind: rest well!
stevenaia Michinaga: you are welcome, thanks for joining
Storm Nordwind: my pleasure