The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble subbing for Eden Haihu. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

Eden was away so it was Riddle and Rubble this morning.

Adams Rubble: Good morning Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: how dee, Adams
Riddle Sideways: and How Do?
Adams Rubble: Is Eden here today?
Riddle Sideways: can not remember
Adams Rubble: I am OK, how are you?
Riddle Sideways: looks around
Riddle Sideways: nope
Riddle Sideways: checks the checklist. OK
Adams Rubble: Should I take the log?
Riddle Sideways: if you want ㋡
Adams Rubble: got it
Riddle Sideways: hope something note worthy gets in there
Adams Rubble: My blog is ten years old either yesterday or tomorrow

Adams Rubble: not today. hehe
Riddle Sideways: read that
Riddle Sideways: get notified by email
Adams Rubble: ohhhh
Riddle Sideways: Follow you
Adams Rubble: awww
Riddle Sideways: not like a stalker :}
Adams Rubble: I have not been blogging much lately
Riddle Sideways: that one was special
Riddle Sideways: Being 10 years
Riddle Sideways: from humble beginnings
Adams Rubble: yes time to think about where I have been and so on
Adams Rubble: yes, from a humble avatar until now
Riddle Sideways: what a trip
Adams Rubble giggles

I notice all the grass behind us

Adams Rubble: that is some grassland behind us
Riddle Sideways: yes, until the trees
Adams Rubble: nice to see grassland in SL

Riddle Sideways: this laptop needs less view distance to be stable

Adams Rubble: I crashed earlier this morning
Riddle Sideways: a few months ago the Lindens came through
Riddle Sideways: and fixed up the welcome center area
Adams Rubble: ;)
Riddle Sideways: culivated all the scrubs and tumbleweeds
Riddle Sideways: into grasslands
Adams Rubble: It reminds me of a Grant Wood painting
Riddle Sideways: and a nice stand of trees
Riddle Sideways: a few paths
Riddle Sideways: some benchs
Adams Rubble: ohhh
Riddle Sideways: quite nice
Adams Rubble: how nice
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: American Gothic for the plains of Linden land
Riddle Sideways: 90-sec seems so long now
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: not that Grant Wood :)
Riddle Sideways: oh?
Riddle Sideways: which one?
Adams Rubble: the one with the grass landscape :)
Riddle Sideways: not 'Death on the Ridge Road' either
Adams Rubble: https://redtreetimes.com/2014/05/14/grant-wood-landscapes/
Riddle Sideways: Ahhhh, those
Riddle Sideways: very peaceful rolling landscapes

Back to the End

Adams Rubble: the past few days I have been wondering about starting at the end
Adams Rubble: for some reason or the other
Riddle Sideways: yet looking back
Riddle Sideways: there is that aspect
Adams Rubble: I did that for the blog entry
Adams Rubble: looking back
Riddle Sideways: here at the end
Riddle Sideways: looking back
Riddle Sideways: a bit
Adams Rubble: thought after ten years there might be something to see
Riddle Sideways: yes, looking over a shoulder, thinking there might be something to see
Riddle Sideways: had a recent dream.
Adams Rubble: it would have been interesting if I could have seen what I know now ten years ago
Adams Rubble listens
Riddle Sideways: at first was trying to remember the dream for the journal
Riddle Sideways: in the morning
Riddle Sideways: then it was only the very end remembered
Riddle Sideways: was at the end of dream
Riddle Sideways: how did the beginning go or the middle?
Riddle Sideways: slipping on darn pebbly sandy path and falling
Riddle Sideways: why on that path?
Adams Rubble: paths are dangerous
Riddle Sideways: or was maybe TP-ed right there
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: no memory of walking up the mountain
Riddle Sideways: just starting at the end?
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: you just made me realize something
Riddle Sideways: /listens
Adams Rubble: during the last ten years, I have not been on a path
Adams Rubble: I have stayed right where i started
Adams Rubble: no rhyme or reason to any changes in me
Adams Rubble: shhhhh
--BELL--

Riddle crashed and came back a little while after the pause. SL was a little unstable ths morning. We pick up discussing paths.

Adams Rubble: wb Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: the predicted crash happened
Adams Rubble: I crashed earlier this morning
Riddle Sideways: and was trying to listen to you :(
Adams Rubble: ohhh, what was the last thing you heard?
Riddle Sideways: missing a story of 'no path'
Adams Rubble: [07:27] Adams Rubble: during the last ten years, I have not been on a path [07:27] Adams Rubble: I have stayed right where i started [07:27] PaB Bell: 90 second pause. Please be silent in mindfulness. [07:28] Adams Rubble: no rhyme or reason to any changes in me\
Riddle Sideways: really?
Adams Rubble: nothing earth shattering but if I have been on a path, it did not go very far
Riddle Sideways: think that is really true?
Adams Rubble: I think of a path as being organized
Riddle Sideways: oh
Riddle Sideways: so, the path was not the way you planned it
Adams Rubble: I have meandered between PaB, Buddhism, Christianity and lots of other traditions and non-traditions
Riddle Sideways: the way you painted it?
Adams Rubble: nope
Riddle Sideways: and had you stayed the straight and narrow path?

I missed this comment by Riddle. The time spent has been anything but straight and narrow :).  I missed some of the following comment as well. I guess much of the source of this discussion for me were the expectations of dramatic change I had ten years ago. 

Riddle Sideways: would you have seen and been who you now are?

Adams Rubble: of course I was taught by Pema that there was no path :)
Adams Rubble: I am a slightly better person now :)
Riddle Sideways: and that you Can Not dictate the paths windings
Adams Rubble: I learned to be wary of boxes and containers
Riddle Sideways: hmmm
Adams Rubble: for some reasons I thought of the cowboy song "Don't fence me in"
Riddle Sideways: yes, a way of singing it
Adams Rubble: (one for Riddle's tabs)
Riddle Sideways: ha, however, nice things can come in boxes
Adams Rubble: yes as long as it isn't oneself
Riddle Sideways: just don't stay in one box too long. fall asleep. like the cats do
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: sorry, so many distractions just happened
Riddle Sideways: a mind is a terrible thing to let fly
Adams Rubble: a mataphor for the past ten years
Adams Rubble: yes to the flying mind
Riddle Sideways: a mind is a wonderious thing to let fly
Adams Rubble giggles
Riddle Sideways: once again... it depends on YOUR point of view
Adams Rubble: Buddhists think the mind needs rigorous training
Adams Rubble: boot camp
Riddle Sideways: whip it into shape
Adams Rubble: no one really knows do they
Riddle Sideways: no out of box thoughts
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: some tell you they know
Adams Rubble: yes
Riddle Sideways: and want money for it
Adams Rubble: oh them
Adams Rubble: yes
Riddle Sideways: or the others
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: the ones that think they have been on the Great journey
Riddle Sideways: and have learned what you should know
Adams Rubble: the great path
Riddle Sideways: yes, 'They' know the great path
Riddle Sideways: and you don't need to walk those miles
Riddle Sideways: They will tell you
Adams Rubble: Hummvee
Riddle Sideways: yes
Riddle Sideways: Yet, you have been to the End
Adams Rubble: depends what the end is
Riddle Sideways: yes it do
Adams Rubble: my mind hurts :)
Riddle Sideways: and nobody going to tell you what it is
Riddle Sideways: does it hurt from ?
Riddle Sideways: expansion?

Our pandora's box opens and out fly all the box metaphors

Riddle Sideways: being in or out of some box?
Adams Rubble: no, not that
Riddle Sideways: the untraining
Adams Rubble: ahhh, the box
Riddle Sideways: or the Path
Riddle Sideways: or the many Paths
Adams Rubble: hehe, all that
Riddle Sideways: the Path less seen
Adams Rubble: but you hit something with the box
Adams Rubble: seeing all the paths, end, etc from the vantage point of a box
Riddle Sideways: yes
Adams Rubble: I am still building myself boxes
Riddle Sideways: mindcraft and SL are good metaphors
Riddle Sideways: little boxes
Adams Rubble: don't know about mindcraft but SL can go both ways
Riddle Sideways: the you change into you
Adams Rubble: yes putting on Adams and Riddle
Adams Rubble: going to pavilion
Riddle Sideways: hearing a gong
Adams Rubble: if you have your sound on
Riddle Sideways: they were once wooden cubes - boxes
Riddle Sideways: then destinations
Riddle Sideways: then a big box
Riddle Sideways: in the box ... out of the box
Adams Rubble: hmmm, lots of thoughts
Adams Rubble: trying to find ready made answers is putting oneself in a box
Riddle Sideways: and what else was the mind going to do
Adams Rubble: hehe
Adams Rubble still giggling
Riddle Sideways: sometimes it is nice to visit the store of ready made answers
Riddle Sideways: to window shop
Riddle Sideways: thinking Adams has done that
Adams Rubble: brb--it is OK if you have to go
Riddle Sideways: worn many coats
Riddle Sideways: soon
--BELL--
Adams Rubble: back
Riddle Sideways: wb
Adams Rubble: but we did start at the end because we are here where we started
Riddle Sideways: yes!!!! :)
Riddle Sideways: and the band plays
Adams Rubble: yes, what is it playing
Adams Rubble: yesterday?
Riddle Sideways: ticker tapes are dropping
Riddle Sideways: the parade in your honor
Riddle Sideways: 76 trombones
Adams Rubble: ohhh
Adams Rubble is grateful for the music and the parade and ticky taps but ...
Riddle Sideways: always sticking your butt in there

Gratefulness and Accidental Grace

Adams Rubble: we can be grateful we are still here (at the end or wherever)
Riddle Sideways: yes, can always be Grateful
Riddle Sideways: Grateful for so much
Adams Rubble: yes, thank God for gratefulness
Riddle Sideways: not sure of "Full of Grace" tho
Riddle Sideways: personally
Adams Rubble: hmmm have we ever made Grace a PaB topic?
Riddle Sideways: not sure
Riddle Sideways: need to research and get back on that
Riddle Sideways: maybe next week
Adams Rubble: I have never thought much about grace
Adams Rubble hums Amazing Grace
Riddle Sideways: oh, just corrected it to Grateful = Full of Grate
Adams Rubble: ohhh, it is a Christian term
Riddle Sideways: or is that Great
Adams Rubble: Grace. noun 1. simple elegance or refinement of movement. "she moved through the water with effortless grace" synonyms: elegance, poise, gracefulness, finesse; More
2. (in Christian belief) the free and unmerited favor of God, as manifested in the salvation of sinners and the bestowal of blessings.
verb 1. do honor or credit to (someone or something) by one's presence.
Riddle Sideways: "Grace" not grate, as a mind here went off on
Adams Rubble: that was a conversation stopper
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: mouth was running over and then stopped
Adams Rubble: grateful = mid 16th century: from obsolete grate ‘pleasing, agreeable, thankful’ (from Latin gratus ) + -ful.
Adams Rubble: gratitude
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: oh, thank you. that is nice
Adams Rubble: "grace" is from the same source :)
Riddle Sideways: from the same well. at the end of a path
Riddle Sideways: in the woods
Riddle Sideways: in the box
Riddle Sideways: thankful that the Lindens made the box pretty
Adams Rubble: wow, methinks Grace is in the Christian box but otherwise Grace is out of the box
Adams Rubble: Being is out of the box
Adams Rubble: Being is the Box
Riddle Sideways: seeing grate fly out of the Box to be free
Adams Rubble: Being is the Box of Boxes
Adams Rubble: Being is being free of boxes
Riddle Sideways: the Great Box Being
Adams Rubble: ahhh, now the connection to SL
Adams Rubble: we can play as Being
Adams Rubble: we can play in SL
Adams Rubble: we can play as human beings in SL
Riddle Sideways: virtually
Adams Rubble: yes!
Adams Rubble: virtual. late 14c., "influencing by physical virtues or capabilities, effective with respect to inherent natural qualities," from Medieval Latin virtualis, from Latin virtus "excellence, potency, efficacy," literally "manliness, manhood" (see virtue). The meaning "being something in essence or effect, though not actually or in fact" is from mid-15c., probably via sense of "capable of producing a certain effect" (early 15c.). Computer sense of "not physically existing but made to appear by software" is attested from 1959.
Adams Rubble adds that we can be virtually woman too :)
Riddle Sideways: yes, written before woman
Adams Rubble: nothing was written before women :)
Riddle Sideways: giggles
Adams Rubble: well maybe that is a wrap
Adams Rubble: thank you for the conversation this morning :)
Riddle Sideways: having soared the grate heights, they went to collect the garbage and recycling to put by the virtual curb
Adams Rubble: curb your garbage
Riddle Sideways: for somebody else to clean up
Adams Rubble: ohhhh. well, we can be grateful for their service
Riddle Sideways: have your grate day, friend
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: you too Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: bye
Adams Rubble: bye :)