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2014.07.06 08:00 - PaB Guardian Session: Ghost Stories
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No headersAttending were: Adams, Agatha, Ari, Bruce, Eliza, Eos, and Stevenaia. Eliza posted this session.
We shared feelings about changes in attendance, questionnaire feedback, and suggestions were made - Some of us feel it is time to cozy in a bit. :)
News: New time slot for Eos - 6pm SLT - Tuesdays!
We shared feelings about changes in attendance, questionnaire feedback, and suggestions were made - Some of us feel it is time to cozy in a bit. :)
News: New time slot for Eos - 6pm SLT - Tuesdays!
Agatha Macbeth: Brucie! :)
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): Heya, Eliza and aggers!
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): aloha!
Agatha Macbeth: Aloha oe
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal) adjusts lighting...
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh, don't want to be washed out
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): "shadows bright day" is quite nice
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray) adjusts Dragon....
Agatha Macbeth: Did Storm turn the lanterns off? Big improvement
Agatha Macbeth: Looked awful before
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): good question.. maybe so
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): it being a holiday weekend, and also my not sending a very exciting notice, not sure how many we will be today :)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): a US holiday weekend anyway
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: Not many at Science Friday either
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): is the group still active? haven't heard them mention SL in ages
Agatha Macbeth: Yes indeed!
stevenaia Michinaga: waves
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): Hi Stevenaia!
Agatha Macbeth: Fridays 11AM - 1PM
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): Heya, steve!
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Steve
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): should check them out again... been years :::adds to list of shoulds:::: ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Which would be 2 - 4 for you i think
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): I like to listen to Science Friday live on the radio while watching it in Second Life.
Agatha Macbeth: We all do Brucie :p
Agatha Macbeth: Hi E
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): am usually listening to it driving for school pick ups
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): Hi Eos :)
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): Heya, Eos!
Eos Amaterasu: Hi
Eos Amaterasu: (not sure if I'm here - I can't see myself)
Agatha Macbeth: Be great when the kids learn to drive eh
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal) smiles... can't see you either, but I hear you
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): You look fine to me, Eos.
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): "hear"
Agatha Macbeth: You look fine to me
Agatha Macbeth: Snap
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): Oh, there you are.... sitting far away...
Agatha Macbeth: This must be the naughty corner
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): haha, looks like it
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): nods.
stevenaia Michinaga: not naughty yet
Agatha Macbeth: Naughty but nice
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): not naughty ENOUGH yet....
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): so we can take session gently today... am mostly just curious to hear others' thoughts on recent group feedback and feelings
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): :)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): oops... lost our Eos...
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray) listens....
Agatha Macbeth: He'll be back
stevenaia Michinaga: must be the rain they are having
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): :)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): deluges today?
stevenaia Michinaga: yesterday, not sure about today
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal) nods.. likely culprit
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): wb Eos :)
Ari (Arisia Vita): greetings all
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Ari :)
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): WB, Eos. Heya, Ari!
Agatha Macbeth: What is wrong with the weather in North America these days?
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): Hi Ari :)
stevenaia Michinaga: this is for you Eos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9P2V0_p6vE
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): I wasn't as weather-conscious earlier in life, so can't say
stevenaia Michinaga: the us radar stops at the Canadian border
Agatha Macbeth: Wind, rain, power outages...terrible
Eos Amaterasu: we have a force-field at the border
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): before internet, were any of us as conscious of weather?
Agatha Macbeth: In this country you don't have a choice I'm afraid :p
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal) smiles
stevenaia Michinaga: must be those Canadian privacy laws
Eos Amaterasu: lots of power outages here in the wake of Arthur
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
Agatha Macbeth: Wish he'd stayed on Avalon
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): I see, hope it didn't undo all that you've been working on
Eos Amaterasu: maybe he brought the holy grail
Agatha Macbeth nods
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): I remember a hurricane in Nova Scotia a few years ago that wiped out a whole lot of trees in Halifax.
Eos Amaterasu: Juan
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): I mean hundreds of trees!
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): yes that's the one!
Agatha Macbeth: That happened here in 87
Eos Amaterasu: that's the Juan
Agatha Macbeth: /me groans
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): :)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): ::rolls eyes:::
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): :)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): as for guardian meeting, I was saying that my leaning is to take things very gently today, but it would be good to hear feelings about recent group feedback and loose ends
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): someone recently IMed me to ask what decisions I was making about things
Agatha Macbeth: Which loose ends in particular Liz?
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): so I hope no one has that idea :)
Eos Amaterasu: you are the decider
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): it was meant for everyone to consider the feelings of the group on the whole
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal) realizes she doesn't need to learn to be bossy :P
Eos Amaterasu: have not been much online last two weeks
Agatha Macbeth: You do it so well
stevenaia Michinaga: A group conclusion or evolution is a difficult one to wrangle
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal) nods
stevenaia Michinaga: who is the designated "Group Wrangler?"
Eos Amaterasu: impression is that group participation is petering out
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): I think Stevie... if we were to choose, it would technically be you... if still chair of WG? :)
stevenaia Michinaga: My sessions are quiet , could be the summer
stevenaia Michinaga: Bruce, pass me that belly laugh please
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): I'll see if I can, steve.
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): we have had a few visitors
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, I am the "Still Chair"... I like that
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: Had one at Wol's yesterday morning
stevenaia Michinaga: one last night looking for a beach party
Agatha Macbeth: But he didn't want to be recorded...
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): oh.
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): and Curious came to Bleu's session... whereas he is usually a dream workshopper
Agatha Macbeth nods
stevenaia Michinaga: and one that wonders in every now an then , looking and seems to be an explorer
Agatha Macbeth: We will always get casual visitors purely from being near Hanja
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): there seems to be a bar between interest in SL and interest in PaB
stevenaia Michinaga: I've seen him 3 or 4 times, he seems to be slowly getting is feet wet
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): Curious comes every Tuesday afternoon to the dreams session at the Kira Cafe.
Agatha Macbeth: Actually Liz i find one to be a microcosm of the other
Eos Amaterasu: you mean the tavern?
Agatha Macbeth: Maxine's sessions
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): :) maybe we should do better with our cocktails
Agatha Macbeth: Our dreams seem to be okay
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): "here's a 90 second shot of presence"
Agatha Macbeth: *click*
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): that's nice to hear Aggers
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Pila still turns up even tho he's only on a text viewer
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): miss Pila
stevenaia Michinaga: I never realized he's been with the group almost from the beginning (I've been reading early logs again)
Agatha Macbeth: Yes
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): Ohh yes, really early on
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): what were you reading?
Agatha Macbeth: The wise village elder
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): one question is whether or how to address the disconnect between what we express in guardian sessions and what was expressed in questionnaires, re recordings. I have to admit that the new system is very confusing, not knowing what to post from auto-listener
Agatha Macbeth: Isn't it so annoying when you can't find a link you're after? :p
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): sorry to put on the spot :)
Agatha Macbeth: Is the new system now in place Liz?
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): well no... new template not made...
Eos Amaterasu: What is the new system?
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): but even when it is, it will be hard for me to tell what is not posted without adding time to the process
Agatha Macbeth: Did wonder cos June still has a lot of red numbers I think ;-)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): so it is a bit of a puzzle
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): I thought/think that Wol wil make a new template, that doesn't show 4 sessions a day.. but is perhaps quite busy
Agatha Macbeth: Killing orcs probably :p
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): :)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): does anyone else know how to do that?
stevenaia Michinaga: It can be difficult to find a unifying theme within the answers to all the questions, everyone came here for their own reasons, took what the group had to offer and integrated into their own minds and now we have many thoughts on a theme, a salad of ideas if you will, not a main course
Agatha Macbeth: Boxy perhaps?
Agatha Macbeth: Think Fael did too
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal) nods... that's wisdom Stevie
Two kinds of sessions...
Eos Amaterasu: How about having two kinds of sessions:
Eos Amaterasu: 1) traditional (recorded)
Eos Amaterasu: 2) reform (not recorded)
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Eos Amaterasu: makes it easy
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): :) would particular guardians choose which sessions they wanted to host?
Eos Amaterasu: Type of session is chosen and pre-announced by guardian
Eos Amaterasu: For example, I may prefer to have my sessions be "traditional"
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal) nods... as would I
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): nods, me too.
Agatha Macbeth: For me the big question is are we still happy with four sessions a day at pre-defined times (as now)?
Eos Amaterasu: I think that amounts to 4 gaps per day, which is very subtle :-)
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): I still love the notion
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): but feel lonelier in that affair
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, it is a nice pace, even if they are left un atteneded
stevenaia Michinaga: a free-form structure of sorts
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): it didn't work well to post the unattended sessions as empty... made what is really a cozier but still lovely group seem a bit like a ghost land
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): if one glanced at the wiki, which is the first thing we ask visitors to do
Agatha Macbeth: Lovely ghosts
stevenaia Michinaga: I actually like seeing the unposted or posted un attended sessions as a marker of activity here
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): really...
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): hm
stevenaia Michinaga: to tell its own story
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): I felt that the story it was telling was one of dwindling...
Eos Amaterasu: spooky, lots of ghosts
stevenaia Michinaga: the story is there, told or untold
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): :)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): negative space
Agatha Macbeth: Ghost story
stevenaia Michinaga: negative space is solid
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): ooops.
(Bruce's avatar begins to morph strangely)
(Bruce's avatar begins to morph strangely)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): Bruce!
Eos Amaterasu: I think there is a small core of people here, perhaps, and might make sense to have a suitably sized container
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): brb....
Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
Agatha Macbeth: We could go back to the tea house with the size of crowd we get these days :p
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): that's my feeling too.. but I always have to check how much I project onto PaB from the changing scene in RL (downsized, etc)
Ari (Arisia Vita): wb Bruce
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): :) we could, Aggers
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): maybe Storm could make us one... slightly bigger
stevenaia Michinaga: you mean off to the tavern, Eos? or downsize the sim, Eos?
Agatha Macbeth: Or transplant a copy of Dakini's?
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): and we could meet at pavilion for theme sessions
Eos Amaterasu: keep using the pavilion
Eos Amaterasu: have the notice board show only sessions with guardians
stevenaia Michinaga: the upkeep of this Sim boggles my mind
Eos Amaterasu: but be free to use other time slots
Eos Amaterasu: keep ghost slots in reserve as first choice for further hosted sessions
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): I've changed the wiki calendar, but haven't checked the board there
Eos Amaterasu: it's like living in a mostly empty hotel
Eos Amaterasu: (I'm baaack!)
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Agatha Macbeth: WB Brucie
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal) giggles
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): so we're crossing over in some way? :)
Eos Amaterasu: I think we have, but our hearts and minds need to follow
stevenaia Michinaga: I think we have been for a while
Agatha Macbeth: Always an interesting concept :p
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray) ponders Eos' shining simile...
stevenaia Michinaga: quicker typist, Eos
Eos Amaterasu beams
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): but wasn't it, "Here's Johhny!" ?
Attention on the empty slots...
Attention on the empty slots...
Eos Amaterasu: I think the feng-shui of living with empty rooms is not so good
Eos Amaterasu: drains energy
Eos Amaterasu: the ghosts do suck it up
Eos Amaterasu: your attention is on the empty slots
stevenaia Michinaga: sometimes it's not what the group says it is, it's what the group is
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): mmmm
Agatha Macbeth: I think it's totally what the group is
Eos Amaterasu: this, with a handful of other AVs, is the group
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): what is the role of history?
Eos Amaterasu: ¿
stevenaia Michinaga: sounds like the makings of a very good party
Agatha Macbeth: To show us which mistakes to repeat? :p
Eos Amaterasu: kitchen party
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): the slots are only empty because they were full once
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): haha Aggers
Agatha Macbeth ponders
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): full with two or full with ten...either fine imo, but abandoned may be something else
Adaptation...
Adaptation...
stevenaia Michinaga: in the end someone or group of us will keep the spirt of this group alive
stevenaia Michinaga: to what ends I am not sure
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): :)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): adaptation
Eos Amaterasu: change size, change clothes
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): yup... but in all these processes there are the workers who tailor and snip
Agatha Macbeth: Interesting to note how many people we haven't seen for ages but still wish to be part of the group
Agatha Macbeth: Like Arch, Eden, Cal etc
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): Cal was still hosting up to recently actually
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): he may still be just haven't seen his sessions posted
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): I see Calvino two hours every Wednesday afternoon.... in Original Face.
Agatha Macbeth: I only seem to see him at OF now
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): nods.
Agatha Macbeth nods
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): Eden desires to visit, but the thing is, when life pace changes it takes a compelling reason to rework it
stevenaia Michinaga: Guardians rarely depart, they just go quiet
Ari (Arisia Vita): and what happened to Sunshine?
Agatha Macbeth: Yes Steve, true
Agatha Macbeth: Sun is still going strong with her music
Agatha Macbeth: Zen too
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): yes, Sunshine and a Zen have a music session every Friday evening....
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): Sunshine's own group took off strongly...
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): talking not too compelling for some :)
Ari (Arisia Vita): Sunvibes is no longer in SL
Ari (Arisia Vita): she moved it to InWorldz
Agatha Macbeth: We dance *and* talk ;-)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): Ah, she'd mentioned some changes but didn't realize
Agatha Macbeth: But still comes to PP
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): how is inworldz Ari?
Ari (Arisia Vita): I rarely go there, so am not a good one to judge
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): I think Sunvibes and Sunshine might be two separate avi's -- but not sure of that.
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): Sunvibes is Sun's group
Agatha Macbeth: Sunvibes is the group name Brucie
Ari (Arisia Vita): right Liz
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): oh, sry!
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): ty!
Ari (Arisia Vita): yw
Eos Amaterasu: http://inworldz.com
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): ouch!
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): no worries... was really active for a while but there were some issues I think... maybe she is just moving on/exploring new things :)
Agatha Macbeth pulls your antlers
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): Yikes!
stevenaia Michinaga: was just looking at that, Eos, is it just another SL
Ari (Arisia Vita): it is another virtual grid
Eos Amaterasu: have not been there
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): hmmm
Ari (Arisia Vita): opensim
Agatha Macbeth: Didn't Adams do something there one time?
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): in opensim, yes
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): Adelene and 3D built a lot there too
Agatha Macbeth: Wonder how they are now
Ari (Arisia Vita): I miss them
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): yes me too
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): what I wonder is whether we're sort of at a needle's eye moment
Agatha Macbeth: Without the camel?
stevenaia Michinaga: isn't that a straw?
stevenaia Michinaga: or have I mixed my metaphors
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): the only thing I can compare it to is that, when choosing to meet SL people in RL, I had to give up anonymity, which was something I liked about SL... was sort of a risk
Agatha Macbeth smiles at Liz
stevenaia Michinaga: compared to what some have chosen to give up, I am always amazed at RL meetings
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): maybe SL is being felt/seen as a bygone place already, so energy moving elsewhere, or as Eos said, moved
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): with heart and mind not catching up :)
Ari (Arisia Vita): welcome Adams
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Adams :)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): what do you mean Stevenaia?
stevenaia Michinaga: Greetings Adams
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): Hi Adams!
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Adams
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): Heya, Adams!
stevenaia Michinaga: each of us has put aside much when we meet in RL
Adams Rubble: Hello everyone :)
Ari (Arisia Vita): what is the appeal of anonymity?
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): ah, yes
Ari (Arisia Vita): why do so many grasp it so tightly?
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): experimentation
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): one feels that by remaining in question, shape can be any number of things
stevenaia Michinaga: some our hair, sex, beauty, others it matter's not
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): but when identified, more limited perhaps
Agatha Macbeth: A Protean thing
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): or in a certain way
stevenaia Michinaga: more like opening a door, seeing what's on the other side, another aspect of reality
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): I still think the crossover was a miracle that could have gone terrible wrong :)
Ari (Arisia Vita): or revealing our "true" selves to others, seen as a risk?
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): or covering up our "true" selves by blinding the other with our seeming self
stevenaia Michinaga: thank you Aggers (off to wiki for that one) - Protean
Agatha Macbeth: Try Proteus first :)
Ari (Arisia Vita): Conceal me what I am, to be my aid for such disguise as haply shall become the form of my intent. - Shakespeare
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal) smiles
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): "give a man a mask..."
Agatha Macbeth: Persona
Eos Amaterasu: "become the form of my intent" - like that
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal) nods
Adams Rubble: "A rose is a rose is a rose"
Eos Amaterasu: raises question of what is my intent....
Ari (Arisia Vita): exactly Eos
Ari (Arisia Vita): and what is the answer?
Eos Amaterasu: which is PaB type question
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): for sure
stevenaia Michinaga: ..listens, I think we know before you do Eos
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): ?
stevenaia Michinaga: we all know more about aspect of each other than the person thinks they are showing
Eos Amaterasu: hmm
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): hmmmm.
stevenaia Michinaga: there is intent, then there is what appears
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): hmmm
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): that's a wow statement, if so - definitely so at times
Ari (Arisia Vita): anonymity is a mask?
stevenaia Michinaga: I can believe I am the ruthless person I intend to be (which I don;t, btw) , but my actions might not appear to be so to others
stevenaia Michinaga: but a cute puppy (or kitty) is always a cute puppy
Ari (Arisia Vita): or is anonymity the blank pallet on which the mask is painted?
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): good questions, Ari.
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): ways we come to know ourselves ... through one another... masked selves
stevenaia Michinaga: the mask is just a line between intent and perception
Eos Amaterasu: Need to segue out shortly
stevenaia Michinaga: the line of delusion
Eos Amaterasu: brief final thought: smaller, cosier container for ourselves and others (visible to others)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): OK Eos, lots of curious points raised today - thank you
Eos Amaterasu: more group meetings of the remaining pab group
Eos Amaterasu: ciao all, thanks, enjoy rest of weekend!
Ari (Arisia Vita): be well and happy Eos
Adams Rubble: by Eos :)
Eos Amaterasu: (thanks for changing my time to 6 pm, Eliza!)
Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now E, mind the rain
stevenaia Michinaga: bye Eos
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): most welcome - hope it helps
stevenaia Michinaga: I must put in the A/C, see you soon
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): :) Adams, excited about Sacred Art notice this morning
Bruce (Bruce Mowbray): I must also depart. Thank you, Eliza. Thank you everyone!
Agatha Macbeth: See you Steve
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): Fun fun Stevenaia
Agatha Macbeth: And Brucie
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, thank you Elisa
Ari (Arisia Vita): it was great being with you all
Adams Rubble: bye all who are leaving
Agatha Macbeth: And ari
Ari (Arisia Vita): I too must fly
Adams Rubble: nice to see you
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): good to be with you all also
Agatha Macbeth: TC
Ari (Arisia Vita): see you again soon I hope
Schedule change news...
Adams Rubble: Eos will be changing to 6 now?
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): thanks Ari, bfn :)
Adams Rubble: bye Ari
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): yes.... 7pm was late for him
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): ending at midnight
Adams Rubble: for all east coasters :)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): yes for me definitely
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): I find it hard to figure out how I used to spend about 15 hrs a week in PaB or PaB related activities @@
Agatha Macbeth: Only 15?
Adams Rubble: :)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): and that may be a tame estimate
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): hha
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): if counting time I was thinking about PaB, it would qualify as consuming :)
Adams Rubble: we were young then. hehe
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): haha
Agatha Macbeth: It consumes, that isn't in doubt...
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): I agree with Eos's vision generally
Adams Rubble: I will read the log when it comes out :)
Agatha Macbeth: Will need to re-read the session to get the broader view
Agatha Macbeth: Hard to keep up 'live'
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): I think the 'feeling' he is describing would be what you mentioned Agatha... 'tea house' feeling
Agatha Macbeth: Yes
Agatha Macbeth: Cosy it up maybe?
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): that seems more appropriate for PaB's phase of life atm
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): yes :)
Agatha Macbeth: I wondered why your Monday sessions left the 'meditation' format?
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): some didn't really like it...
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): I think I try to hard to find the right balance for everyone
Agatha Macbeth: I liked it, think Wollie did too
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): I liked it too, but sort of felt coerced and also for me it has been strange to reconcile original/traditional PaB and leaning toward reg meditation
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): or felt that I was coercing others, in a way
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: It was good when we went to Mieum too
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): I'm not sure I should host 1pms really
Agatha Macbeth: Rieul?
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): yes
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): I do better with mornings but work mornings now
Adams Rubble: Back when PaB was the Rieul thing
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): I like that vibe :)
Agatha Macbeth: Think maybe it fitted in with the surroundings better then too
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): groovy
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): the surroundings there now are a bit disjointed as compared
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, I know a lot has gone
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): I think whenever one doesn't have a say so in the change, they feel it as an imposition
Agatha Macbeth: But Doug put the old pavilion back happily :)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): :)
Adams Rubble: I made the joke but I did not mean to imply the location was what made it
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): understood
Agatha Macbeth: Worked tho :p
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): :)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): today the discussion was about how empty spaces and sessions feel kind of ghostly
Conversational Spaces...
Conversational Spaces...
Adams Rubble: The sessions I remember with the most fondness are spread out over all four places
Adams Rubble: I say four because there was inside and outside the teahouse
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): :) never attended those, but attended Solobill's tea sessions
Adams Rubble: when you read the log, unless there is a picture, you don;t know where it was :)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): true
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): do you think though, that spaces contribute to conversations?
Adams Rubble: the coziness was nice
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): meaning... big space, more feeling to fill it up rather than taking time... sipping tea
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): :)
Adams Rubble: Has anyone consulted Storm about this issue?
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): he liked the idea of a "wrap up" of the previous vision of PaB
Adams Rubble: he did make the convertable fountain
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): yes... I still enjoy the pavilion, but I also remember that around the time of the bday party he floated the idea of a new space
Adams Rubble: ohh. I did not know that :)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): no one really responded, which might be why it didn't fly
Agatha Macbeth: Think I was too busy dancing :p
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal) smiles
Adams Rubble: :)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): I don't know.. but want to be responsive to the times
Agatha Macbeth: Protean again ;)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): Oh, Adams, have you been to inworldz?
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): :)
Adams Rubble: nope
Adams Rubble does not know what that is
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): okay, we were mentioning it earlier... another grid , SL like
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): evidently Sunshine moved her group there
Adams Rubble: like a fourth life?
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): hah... maybe
Adams Rubble: sigh. so many worlds, so few avatars
Agatha Macbeth: We'll never be claustrophic at least
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): :) I'd better go... still sorting through christmas ornaments and making donations
Agatha Macbeth: Xmas?
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): downsizing actually feels quite good
Agatha Macbeth: Now?
Adams Rubble: have a nice afternoon and evening :)
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): yes, they don't fit here - needle's eye :)
Adams Rubble: or is it night now?
Agatha Macbeth: Less is more I guess
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): nice to see you!
Adams Rubble: bye Agatha and Eliza
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): bfn
Adams Rubble: nice to see you two
Agatha Macbeth: Take care ladies
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal) waches Aggers slide around....
Agatha Macbeth: The skating redhead
Agatha Macbeth: grins
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal): :) speaking of things out of season.. Aggers is always skating
Eliza (Eliza Madrigal) waves
Adams Rubble: bye
Agatha Macbeth: BFN
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