2008.05.11 01:00 - A dance of languages

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    The guardian at this meeting was Pema Pera and the comments are his.  


    I arrived at an empty tea house, not too surprisingly, given that it was 1 am SL time. I looked at my friends list to see who was online, and to my surprise found Hotaru still going strong, although it must have been really late for her. We had a brief chat by IM and then I tp-ed her over. She had come from a dance party. Just at that time, I noticed Oberon standing a bit further away, just outside normal chat range. I remember having seen his name in the chat log of a previous session, even though I hadn’t been there myself. I shouted to reach him, and to extend an invitation.

    Pema Pera: Hi Hotaru!
    Pema Pera shouts: Hi Oberu!
    Pema Pera shouts: Come join us if you like!
    Pema Pera: you are still dancing!
    Pema Pera: how lovely, with the wings and all
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: Howdy
    Pema Pera: Hi Oberon!
    Pema Pera: I am not sure we met yet
    Pema Pera: but I read about you on the blog, welcome again!
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: Thanks
    Pema Pera: Hotaru here just came from a party
    Pema Pera: and is still in full swing as you can see
    Hotaru Myoo: hiya!
    Hotaru Myoo: Oberon was at the sitting tonite too

    While Hotaru was still wildly making dance movements she had sat down next to me on the wooden plank sticking out from the tea house. Oberon tried to sit next to me. That didn’t work, but the other side was available for sitting.

    Pema Pera: Oberon, there seems to be no sitting position in front of the door, but there is one to the other side of Hotaru
    Pema Pera: there you go!
    Pema Pera: now Hotaru is the center of attention
    Hotaru Myoo: haha
    Hotaru Myoo: right
    Hotaru Myoo: that’s not what my cat is saying right now
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: now to just deal with the lag… whydoes SL lag so baddly when yur trying to rotate the camera
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: An do you ever stop dancing Hotaru?
    Pema Pera: somehow SL has been laggy for several weeks now . . . .
    Hotaru Myoo: yes
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: I’ve been told it’s been going on since about before December
    Pema Pera: wonder why that is
    Pema Pera: the improved visuals?
    Hotaru Myoo: oh sl will always be in flux
    Pema Pera: that’s for sure yes
    Hotaru Myoo: roll with it
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: But this is riduculus I know of no other on line game that is nearly this bad
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: There is acceptable and there is unacceptable and this would be in the un department
    Pema Pera: the main point is networking and building, not gaming, I guess
    Pema Pera: so that’s not the highest priority
    Hotaru Myoo: right
    Hotaru Myoo: in fact…this is rl
    Hotaru Myoo: or we could make an arguement for that
    Pema Pera: and I admire them for all that they’ve pioneered, LL

    While I agreed with Oberon, I also tried to point out the differences with other games.

    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: But that’s bull every MMORPG has other goals and taxes the computer more than SL and yet they do not have this lag
    Pema Pera: well, there is more to that, Oberon:
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: I’ve asked mates that work in computers and networking, they say this kinda performance would cost them there jobs
    Pema Pera: SL allows content to be created in very free ways, whereas games are scripted
    Hotaru Myoo: right
    Pema Pera: if you give the user freedom that slows down everything
    Hotaru Myoo: this is darn near organic
    Pema Pera: no freedom and everything runs like a train
    Pema Pera: but every screen refreshment here has to check what users have done
    Pema Pera: much more than in normal games
    Pema Pera: Are you familiar with programming languages?
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: That still is no excuse. There are ways around it and the lag is even present in places that do not allow scripts and such
    Pema Pera: C++ for example is faster than Java which is faster than Ruby . . . for the same reasons
    Pema Pera: yes, it could be optimized further
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: I know what I’ve been told from people in the industry including members of the LL team that have stated there is no reason for this lag other than refusal to upgrade the servers and other very basic issues
    Pema Pera: but that takes far more programming time than optimizing a relatively static game
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: So why can my computer run this but not WOW?
    Pema Pera: I agree, it could all be improved
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: if it’s reguirments are so much higher and more taxing
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: than WoWs
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: Now some of it is the fault of the sim owners. They wanna add so much stuff to there areas it slows it down

    Meanwhile, Hotaru seemed unstoppable.

    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: and Hotaru how long do you plan to keep dancing girl?
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: lol you even danced all through the sitting
    Hotaru Myoo: am I ?
    Hotaru Myoo: I was rather relaxed
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: on my screen your still going
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: and going and going
    Hotaru Myoo: nice
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: okay didn’t need to see that lol
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: an I am just teasing you I was wondering if there was a reason
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: No thanks

    Meanwhile Hotaru had invited me to join the dance, and I had taken her up on it. She had invited Oberon too, it turned out, but he was happy to stay seated.

    Hotaru Myoo: c’mon
    Hotaru Myoo: use that lag
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: it’s dizzing enough with you two don’t need a third making me REALLY dizzy
    Pema Pera: sorry Oberon!
    Hotaru Myoo: or should I say shake that lag
    Pema Pera: I thought if you can’t beat them join them
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: no worries I just super zoomed on myself
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: so keep going
    Pema Pera: Hotaru can you offer Oberon the dance too?
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: She did I said no thanks
    Hotaru Myoo: I did
    Pema Pera: ah, k
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: because as I said it’s kinda making me a little quasey
    Hotaru Myoo: he didn’t take me up on the offer

    Now I could understand the previous part of the conversation.

    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: so I zoomed in really close on myself
    Pema Pera: coming back to the Lindens, I completely agree Oberon that they could and should do a much better job
    Pema Pera: and they will — or they will close down
    Pema Pera: I just wanted to add that there are some reasons, historically, for the current situation
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: Yeap you’ll have to pardon me I am big on saying this is an issue and needs to be dealt with

    At that moment I saw Anan walking up to us.

    Pema Pera: こんにちは、Ananさん
    Pema Pera: Please join us!
    Hotaru Myoo: Hi Anan
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: Hello Anan
    Anan McCallen: こんにちは、みなさん。
    Pema Pera: ひさしぶり!
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: are those asian characters?
    Hotaru Myoo: Greetings!
    Pema Pera: yes, Oberon Japanese
    Pema Pera: Anan is Japanese
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: Thought so wasn’t sure
    Pema Pera: Anan, please meet Oberon
    Pema Pera: Anan and Hotaru, have you met yet?
    Hotaru Myoo: No
    Hotaru Myoo: Hello
    Anan McCallen: このまえ、禅堂で、ともだちと時間をすごしました。thank you
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: Komedchawa Anana-san (forgive the butchered Japanese)
    Hotaru Myoo: Konnichi-wa
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: That’s how it’s spelled lol

    Anan commented on the fact that she had used the Hall of Appearance the other day, to teach Japanese, and I expressed my pleasure at seeing it being used for the first time.

    Pema Pera: とっても楽しかった!!
    Pema Pera: よかった
    Anan McCallen: hello all. i speak english a little.
    Pema Pera: 家を使ったのは
    Anan McCallen: はい
    Pema Pera: it is nice to mix languages
    Pema Pera: Hotaru can speak Japanese too
    Pema Pera: a little
    Pema Pera: Hotaru-san, douzo!
    Hotaru Myoo: skoshi
    Pema Pera: romaji dake de
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: I can’t other than a few words
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: not many of them polite
    Hotaru Myoo: lol
    Pema Pera: haha
    Pema Pera: well why don’t you try, Oberon!
    Hotaru Myoo: Anan 、いかにここに来るか。
    Anan McCallen: I ‘ve taught japanese to my friend Saron
    Hotaru Myoo: nice
    Pema Pera: すごい、ほたる
    Pema Pera: さん
    Pema Pera: yes I was very happy to see Anan in the Hall of Appearance
    Pema Pera: the other day with Saron
    Pema Pera: speaking Japanese
    Pema Pera: The first time I saw the building being used

    Anan was curious as to what was happening here. When she walked in, Hotaru and I were dancing quite wildly. In the mean time I had stopped and walked over to Anan.

    Anan McCallen: What are you doing here?
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: Well I’m just hanging out myself
    Pema Pera: Anan, we get together here every day
    Pema Pera: four times a day
    Pema Pera: 1 am , 7 am, 1 pm, 7 pm SL time
    Anan McCallen: four times!
    Pema Pera: 六時ごとに
    Pema Pera: ほんまに!
    Pema Pera: w
    Pema Pera: 今京都
    Anan McCallen: すごいですね!
    Pema Pera: ^^
    Pema Pera: http://playasbeing.wordpress.com/ で説明があります。
    Hotaru Myoo: It is huge
    Pema Pera: sorry Oberon
    Anan McCallen: Oh! You are in Kyoto now!
    Pema Pera: yes!!
    Pema Pera: you have landed in a strange group
    Pema Pera: sanjoukeihan no Sutaba :>)
    Hotaru Myoo: we are all strange in various ways
    Pema Pera: Anan-san ha doko, ima?
    Hotaru Myoo: where are you now?
    Pema Pera: Oberon, between a dancing fire fly and Japanese scribbling avatars, this must be an unsettling meeting . . . .

    Anan and I turned out not to be far away from each other in RL . . . .

    Anan McCallen: わたしは、じたくです
    Pema Pera: 京都のちかくね?
    Anan McCallen: in my home,kyoto
    Pema Pera: はい
    Pema Pera: so Anan and I are very nearby in RL
    Pema Pera: what fun
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: It is a little like being in some of my favorite animes like Urusei Yatsura or Tenchi Muyo
    Pema Pera: and in SL it makes no difference . . . .
    Hotaru Myoo: yes
    Hotaru Myoo: so kewl
    Pema Pera: The colors of your skirt are very nice and rich, Anan-san
    Anan McCallen: yes , i live in uji city nere kyoto
    Hotaru Myoo: you 2 should hook up
    Pema Pera: we will
    Pema Pera: YOU should come here
    Pema Pera: with your interest in Japanese!
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: I’ve always wanted to visit Japan
    Pema Pera: and YOU too Oberon!
    Pema Pera: Let’s all have a real party in Kyoto
    Pema Pera: Then Hotaru can dance as much as she wants;>)
    Hotaru Myoo: I’ll be there soon
    Pema Pera: when?
    Hotaru Myoo: yet ta hey
    Anan McCallen: おはなしが、めちゃくちゃはやいので、ついていけません ;))

    Anan told me that it was hard to follow the English conversation, jumping around as it did.

    Hotaru Myoo: After mid Japan
    Hotaru Myoo: after mid June that is
    Hotaru Myoo: haha
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: maybe I can find myself a Japanese girlfriend
    Pema Pera: すみません
    Pema Pera: 僕も日本のsimで
    Hotaru Myoo: :)
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: at the least I can be sure none of the girls will turn out to be my 1st cousin… (Long story of living in a small town and having a family that never speaks to each other)
    Pema Pera: そういうことは難しい!
    Pema Pera: good point Oberon!
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: and if they turn out to be cousins I’ll be very surprised
    Anan McCallen: hotaruさんの まいは(dance)は、どのようなものですか?
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann wishes he knew what everyone was talking about
    Pema Pera: ああ前にパーチからきました。
    Hotaru Myoo: maybe not
    Pema Pera: やめるのは難しいそうW
    Pema Pera: Anan asked about Hotaru’s dancing
    Pema Pera: and I said she came from a party
    Pema Pera: and can’t seem to stop ;>)
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: yeap
    Hotaru Myoo: Actually
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: She was like that at the Zen session earlier
    Hotaru Myoo: I wanted to see if I could use my HUD to stop it
    Hotaru Myoo: is it?
    Pema Pera: Also, Anan said that it is difficult to follow English when the conversation jumps topic all the time — and yes, I have the EXACT same problem in Japanese!
    Pema Pera: When I go to a Japanese sim, I can talk fine one-on-one
    Pema Pera: but in a group my eyes start to roll soon

    Hotaru kept trying to stop her dancing.

    Hotaru Myoo: Did I not stop
    Hotaru Myoo: ?
    Pema Pera: no
    Anan McCallen: さくや、ともだちから、こんなのをもらいました。;))
    Hotaru Myoo: I guess I’ll have to go back tothe party
    Hotaru Myoo: haha
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: try stop all animations
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: under tools
    Pema Pera: 何を貰いましたか?
    Hotaru Myoo: did that some time ago
    Hotaru Myoo: always step #1
    Hotaru Myoo: :)
    Anan McCallen: a tool for stopping animation, i sended
    Hotaru Myoo: wear it?
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: I am working on my myspace
    Hotaru Myoo: I am glowing
    Hotaru Myoo: the powers are shrinking from me
    Hotaru Myoo: next
    Hotaru Myoo: I’ll be ruthed
    Hotaru Myoo: k

    And yes, Anan’s tool managed to stop the spell of Hotaru’s dance.

    Hotaru Myoo: am I done?
    Pema Pera: seems that way, Hotaru
    Hotaru Myoo: put a fork in me!
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: lol
    Anan McCallen: すみません、わたし、よけいなことをしましたか?
    Pema Pera: you are a very– haha- subdued fire fly
    Hotaru Myoo: thank you anan
    Pema Pera: いいえ!
    Hotaru Myoo: very much appreciate it!
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: I’m working on my myspace right now
    Pema Pera: みんなさんはゆっくりしゃべります
    Pema Pera: 別にトピックがないんです
    Pema Pera: ときどきまじめ
    Anan McCallen: わたしも、きのうこまっていました。友達がたすけました。
    Hotaru Myoo: ok
    Pema Pera: 時々あそびぽい
    Pema Pera: たいへんでしたか?
    Pema Pera: こまったこと?
    Hotaru Myoo: sl?
    Pema Pera: thnx Oberon!
    Anan McCallen: dancing no stopping!!

    Anan had just explained that she had a similar problem yesterday, which was why she had received the tool to stop all animations.

    Pema Pera: !!
    Anan McCallen: ;))
    Hotaru Myoo: haha
    Hotaru Myoo: It’s bbaacckk!!
    Hotaru Myoo: k
    Pema Pera: ??
    Hotaru Myoo: I’m making ya crazy..
    Hotaru Myoo: I’ll go!
    Pema Pera: you still look quiet to me, Hot

    I did not see her dancing; sometimes your own perception of your avatar is different from that of others. In any case, Hotaru tp-ed away and then back again, as yet another attempt to break her spell completely, also for herself. Oberon had been born only two months ago in a new avatar.

    Pema Pera: One less fire fly . . . .
    Pema Pera: So Oberon, how do you feel as a new av?
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: I’m liking it
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: especally as Oberon Pendragon is my Craft name
    Pema Pera: nice name!
    Pema Pera: Had been wondering about it

    And Hotaru came back.

    Pema Pera: One more fire fly!
    Pema Pera: yeah!
    Pema Pera: wb
    Anan McCallen: むねの デザイン、いいですね!
    Hotaru Myoo: Sometimes a shot through sl will clear all anim
    Anan McCallen: お顔もかわりましたか?
    Pema Pera: どうもどうも
    Pema Pera: そうそう
    Hotaru Myoo: tyvm
    Pema Pera: 髪の毛は長くなりました;>)
    Anan McCallen: oh!

    I explained to Anan that my hair had grown :-)

    Pema Pera: good place to relax, Hotaru!
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: I add Orin as there is already an OberonPendragon running around
    Pema Pera: What is the origin of the names, Oberon?
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: However I cannot find him
    Pema Pera: From mythology?
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: but SL says he exists
    Pema Pera: did you IM him?
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: tried but cannot locate him
    Anan McCallen: Mr.pentagon..your T shirt’s design…GOBOUSEI!
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: Gobousei?
    Pema Pera: 二十年代に似てる髪の毛がありました
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: and Oberon means elf bear
    Pema Pera: RLで
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: and my totem is the bear
    Pema Pera: 昔話;>0
    Hotaru Myoo: ^^
    Pema Pera: do you have an av that is elf bear like?
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: nope
    Hotaru Myoo: a tiny?
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: I’m saving up for a new avatar however
    Anan McCallen: yes, ‘GOBOUSEI’.. is powerfull

    Anan refered to the pentagram on Oberon’s shirt.

    Hotaru Myoo: you should get one
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: I got a tiny that is a ferret
    Pema Pera: sure!
    Pema Pera: what is the best place to buy avs?
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: SLX
    Pema Pera: I haven’t gotten around to shop
    Pema Pera: slexchange?
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: yeap
    Pema Pera: I just heard about that yesterday
    Pema Pera: have to check it out
    Pema Pera: 雨が多かったね最近。吃驚しました!
    Pema Pera: hotaru, how much of the Japanese can your read, or mostly kana?
    Hotaru Myoo: I am using babelfish
    Pema Pera: ah, I have to learn to do that too
    Pema Pera: where do you get that?
    Hotaru Myoo: http://www.babelfish.altavista.com/tr
    Pema Pera: thankx!
    Hotaru Myoo: np
    Pema Pera: Oberon, what is the meaning of Orin?
    Hotaru Myoo: brb
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: okays and Orin means dark haired
    Pema Pera: ah!
    Pema Pera: so it can all go together
    Pema Pera: into one image, nice!
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: although I should have but grey haired as I am gonna be silver haired by thrity
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: and of course Pendragon is from King Arthur Pendragon
    Pema Pera: ah!

    By that time, I could hardly see the scene anymore.

    Pema Pera: Oberon, perhaps you can help me:
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: I’ll try
    Pema Pera: A HUD time image appeared
    Pema Pera: on my screen
    Pema Pera: with zillions of statistics
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: hmmmm
    Pema Pera: and NO indication of how to turn it off!
    Pema Pera: only about how to toggle between different statistics
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: hmmm try right clicking yourself and hitting detach all
    Pema Pera: I must have hit a keyboard speedup combination . . . . .
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: most likely
    Pema Pera: do I loose my hair too then :>)
    Pema Pera: and my clothes?

    I clicked on my avatar, and I must have hit the hair directly, since next thing I knew it was gone.

    Pema Pera: so much for my hair
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: you can reattach it lol hey I think we got the same skin
    Pema Pera: but the HUD is still there!
    Pema Pera: oh well
    Pema Pera: perhaps just log out and log in is the simplest
    Anan McCallen: ひとはやはり、最初はすがたを見ますね
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: almost the same skin
    Pema Pera: そうですよね
    Anan McCallen: Looks is important….
    Pema Pera: yes, especially in SL
    Anan McCallen: but eye contact can be continuing, in RL
    Pema Pera: yes
    Pema Pera: that is more difficult in SL
    Anan McCallen: in SL no eye contact
    Anan McCallen: heat to heart i think
    Anan McCallen: heart, directly

    Since I did not reply immediately, and my avatar looked pensively out over the water, Anan asked whether I was lost in thought.

    Anan McCallen: かんがえすぎかな?
    Pema Pera: いいえw
    Pema Pera: そうみたいね
    Pema Pera: sometimes is seems as if we think deeply
    Pema Pera: our avatars have their own way of behaving
    Pema Pera: yes, Anan-san we have to use our intuition
    Pema Pera: based upon words and other clues
    Pema Pera: instead of eye contact
    Anan McCallen: making AV is creative
    Pema Pera: yes indeed!
    Hotaru Myoo: sorry
    Hotaru Myoo: afk
    Anan McCallen: Pentagon, ‘GOBOUSEI’ we call it ‘ABIRAUNNKENN’
    Pema Pera: hahaha
    Hotaru Myoo: this is good stuff!

    I had tried a few times to sit down in the grass front of Anan and Oberon, who both had taken a seat on the stone benches. Hotaru was seated a bit further, on top of a big rock, watching the water.

    Pema Pera: not so easy to sit in the grass
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: true
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: oh and it’s called a Pentagram
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: my star
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: it is suppose to represent Earth, Wind, Water, Fire and Spirit
    Anan McCallen: That means ‘universe”DAINITINYORAI’
    Pema Pera: 大日尿来?
    Pema Pera: ちがう
    Anan McCallen: yes! i understand ..大日如来。
    Pema Pera: はい
    Pema Pera: はは
    Pema Pera: にょ
    Anan McCallen: 尿。。。。is shit
    Pema Pera: にょうじゃなっくて
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: ?????
    Pema Pera: はい
    Pema Pera: yes, I’m sorry, I noticed my mistake
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: I need to get a babel fish lol
    Pema Pera: I tried to find the Japanese for
    Pema Pera: and I guessed
    Pema Pera: a long O in NYORAI
    Pema Pera: but it was a short O
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: I’m still lost lol
    Pema Pera: you cannot see that in the roman lettering
    Pema Pera: so the third character
    Pema Pera: changed into
    Pema Pera: shit
    Pema Pera: or actually piss
    Anan McCallen: lol
    Pema Pera: to be more accurate ;>)
    Hotaru Myoo: yes
    Pema Pera: very impolite of me
    Pema Pera: m(_._)m
    Hotaru Myoo: ^^
    Pema Pera: hands next to head bowing down low
    Anan McCallen: me too
    Pema Pera: iie!
    Pema Pera: (no nothing like that)
    Anan McCallen: all is …From NATURE ;))
    Pema Pera: yes!
    Pema Pera: Thank you very much, that is a wonderful way of looking at it!

    I appreciated Anan’s kind response to my rude mistake.

    Pema Pera: well
    Pema Pera: I have to go now
    Pema Pera: it is time for dinner here in Japan
    Hotaru Myoo: sorry me too
    Pema Pera: it was nice to meet you all here!
    Hotaru Myoo: Anan
    Anan McCallen: i see .goodtime !
    Hotaru Myoo: Pleased to meet you
    Anan McCallen: yes
    Pema Pera: And btw I got rid of the HUD Oberon
    Anan McCallen: oh
    Hotaru Myoo: I look forward t oseeing you again soon
    Hotaru Myoo: Oberon…see ya
    Anan McCallen: me too
    Pema Pera: Advanced->Consoles->Fast Timers
    Hotaru Myoo: Pema..
    Pema Pera: not so obvious a place to look
    Hotaru Myoo: Don’tbe a stranger
    Pema Pera: thanks Hotaru
    Pema Pera: yes, haha
    Pema Pera: see you all soon!
    Anan McCallen: see you again Hotaru
    OberonOrinPendragon Landmann: later take care everyone that is leaving
    Hotaru Myoo: mata-ne

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