2008.05.14 01:00 - Meetings and buildings

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    The guardian at this meeting was Pema Pera and the comments are his. 

    That night, at 1 am SL time, I sat quietly in the tea house, without anybody else stopping by. However, a little while earlier, I had run into various friends, old and new, so let me report that here. First, Dakini and I met to talk about some details of how to set land permissions. While we were doing so, Gino walked by.

    Pema Pera: Hi Gino!
    Gino Yuya: Hi!
    Gino Yuya: Nice place here!
    Pema Pera: have you been here before?
    Gino Yuya: Nope. Just doing some research…
    Dakini Rhode: hi Gino
    Gino Yuya: Hi!
    Pema Pera: we also have daily meetings of various kinds
    Gino Yuya: What kind of meetings do you guys hold here?
    Pema Pera: Dakini here leads zen sittings
    Pema Pera: and I started an initiative called Play as Being
    Gino Yuya: Virtual mindfulness?
    Dakini Rhode: yes!
    Pema Pera: http://playasbeing.wordpress.com/
    Gino Yuya: Interesting!
    Pema Pera: every day zen at 6 pm SLT
    Pema Pera: and Play at 1 and 7 both am and pm
    Pema Pera: so five times a day something ;>)
    Pema Pera: you’re most welcome to stop by

    We quickly got into a serious conversation. This is one of the great things about Rieul, that you can meet interesting people just by standing there, and watching who passes by!

    Gino Yuya: We do something like that in RL where I live… a co-dreaming workshop.
    Gino Yuya: I am curious… Do you mind if I ask you a few questions?
    Pema Pera: that sounds interesting!
    Pema Pera: co-dreaming?
    Pema Pera: sure
    Gino Yuya: Yes. Most religious traditions view the real world as a dream. We use that as a starting premise.
    Pema Pera: great start!!
    Gino Yuya: So for example, you guys dreamed me up which is why I am here right now.
    Pema Pera: perhaps we can look at the dream differently
    Pema Pera: not us dreaming up you
    Pema Pera: but rather Being dreaming up all of us
    Pema Pera: or whatever name you want to use
    Pema Pera: Suchness
    Pema Pera: Emptiness
    Pema Pera: Openness
    Gino Yuya: How many people attend your workshops?
    Pema Pera: various, half a dozen on average or so
    Dakini Rhode: i have over 100 in my group, but usually 6-10 at each sitting
    Gino Yuya: Are you happy with 2nd life as a medium for interaction?
    Pema Pera: SL is great for interactions, yes
    Gino Yuya: There is the inner state, and then there is the story.
    Pema Pera: for example, the three of us meeting here now
    Gino Yuya: How would you change things if you could?
    Gino Yuya: e.g., features, etc.

    Genesis dropped by as well.

    Pema Pera: hi Genesis!
    Dakini Rhode: hey Gen!
    Gino Yuya: Hi!
    genesis Zhangsun: Hi Pem! Hi Dakini!
    Pema Pera: Genesis, meet Gino
    genesis Zhangsun: How are you Dakini?
    Dakini Rhode: i’m well, genesis
    Pema Pera: Gino is behind you, Gen
    genesis Zhangsun: Howdy Gino!
    Gino Yuya: The titles above your name are associated with this clan?
    Gino Yuya: Hi!
    Gino Yuya: Greetings from Hong Kong!
    Pema Pera: greetings from Kyoto
    genesis Zhangsun: Greetings from California
    Gino Yuya: What does Guardian mean?
    Pema Pera: it is related to play as being
    Pema Pera: we gather four times a day
    Pema Pera: and talk about reality
    Pema Pera: and Guardian is the title for a person who is there to greet visitors
    Pema Pera: guarding the house so to speak, and the atmosphere
    Dakini Rhode: haha i’m an Arhat to bug Storm
    Pema Pera: hahahaha
    Pema Pera: I wondered about that
    Pema Pera: Storm is a neighbor
    Dakini Rhode: not really
    Gino Yuya: Reality… one of my favorite topics!
    Dakini Rhode: wow Gino you dropped into the right place
    Pema Pera: we have many running jokes here
    Pema Pera: http://playasbeing.wordpress.com/ may amuse you
    Dakini Rhode: it just turned out that way :-)
    Pema Pera: if you come back at 1 am SLT
    Pema Pera: I’d be happy to talk more about reality

    Gino and I had more in common than I had expected.

    Gino Yuya: I am hosting a conference here in Hong Kong on the topic next year
    Pema Pera: what is your conference?
    Gino Yuya: http://www.consciousness.arizona.edu/hongkong.htm
    Pema Pera: Gen, Gino just walked by here a few minutes ago
    genesis Zhangsun: amazing
    Dakini Rhode: i’m getting used to these things
    Pema Pera: Oh Tucson conferences
    Pema Pera: I gave a talk there in 1996 and 1998
    Pema Pera: ;>)
    Gino Yuya: Yes. Will be in Hong Kong next year!
    Gino Yuya: With Dave and Stuart.
    Pema Pera: ah, the odd years
    Pema Pera: yes
    Pema Pera: in 1999 it was in Tokyo
    Pema Pera: I attended there too, fun meeting
    Pema Pera: at the UN universtity there
    Gino Yuya: HK will be a fun event as well!
    Pema Pera: thanks for the pointer
    Gino Yuya: Looking at hosting the poster sessions in the virtual world.
    Gino Yuya: in addition to the real world.
    Pema Pera: please do stop by at any of the 1 or 7 am or pm times!
    Pema Pera: great meeting you
    Pema Pera: let’s continue!

    We talked a bit more about how to let activities grow in virtual worlds.

    Gino Yuya: Was interested in features you guys felt could help make such experiences better.
    Pema Pera: we have many!
    Pema Pera: mostly human interaction features
    Gino Yuya: Like shared video playback, web browsing, etc.
    Pema Pera: but they translate into technical ones too.
    Gino Yuya: Community building and support, etc.
    Pema Pera: Please have a look at the paper in my profile
    Gino Yuya: How do I do that?
    Pema Pera: first page
    Pema Pera: right click on my avatar
    Pema Pera: select profile
    Pema Pera: are you new to SL?
    Gino Yuya: yes. Just researching.
    Gino Yuya: How do I right click on the mac?
    Pema Pera: command + mouse click
    Pema Pera: the apple symbol left to the space bar
    Gino Yuya: Amazing.
    Gino Yuya: You are exactly the person I am looking for.
    Pema Pera: well, you’ve found me ;>)
    Pema Pera: let’s talk more later!
    Gino Yuya: OK.

    A while later, after doing some scouting around, I stopped by the tea house, and found Gen and Solo deep into conversation.

    Solobill Laville: we have the ability to make choices
    Solobill Laville: Hey, Pema!
    Pema Pera: hi Gen and Solo!
    Solobill Laville: welcome
    genesis Zhangsun: Hey!
    genesis Zhangsun: Welcome back!
    genesis Zhangsun: we are having a lovely discussion!
    Solobill Laville: we’ve been getting to know each other a bit
    Pema Pera: can’t stay long
    Pema Pera: wish I could !
    Pema Pera: and could join
    Pema Pera: have to run but was kept here by several problems
    Solobill Laville: that is ok, you’re a busy cultivator!
    Solobill Laville: can we help with anything?
    genesis Zhangsun: yes i guess that is the nature of being a cultivator
    Solobill Laville: good tea…
    genesis Zhangsun: really good tea
    genesis Zhangsun: how come mine never does that?
    Solobill Laville: maybe it’s my cushion
    genesis Zhangsun: i think you are slipping something in there when I am not looking
    Solobill Laville: a “floater” mickey
    Solobill Laville: lol
    genesis Zhangsun: i need to learn how to rez those
    genesis Zhangsun: it would come in handy
    genesis Zhangsun: :)

    All that was in reaction to Solo floating above his cushion after having drunk his green tea.

    Pema Pera: I’ll have to run
    Pema Pera: buy some land — as usual ;>)
    Solobill Laville: i can continue our conversation Gen, if you’d like
    Pema Pera: then off to RL
    Solobill Laville: ok, by pema
    genesis Zhangsun: yes please Solo
    Pema Pera: sorry to have interrupted
    Solobill Laville: no, great to see you
    Solobill Laville: take care
    genesis Zhangsun: Pema lets discuss the Bar later I will think of some ideas
    genesis Zhangsun: meanwhile
    genesis Zhangsun: ciao!

    It then clicked for me, the notion of finding Gen and Solo talking here, even outside the four scheduled sessions, together with the idea of a pub. I had been thinking about how nice it would be, at some point in the future, to have 24 hours/day presence here in Rieul, for anyone interested in talking about reality . . . .

    Pema Pera: and so nice to see you here talking
    Pema Pera: even outside regular hours
    Pema Pera: the Pub, Gen, yes
    Pema Pera: actually
    genesis Zhangsun: yes Pub
    Pema Pera: my idea for the Pub was
    Pema Pera: to have that “open” for 24 hours
    Pema Pera: with the regular meetings four times a day still here
    Pema Pera: unless we have a large group and don’t fit
    Pema Pera: just a thought
    genesis Zhangsun: sure that sounds appropriate
    Solobill Laville: there’s always the halll of appearance
    Pema Pera: that too yes
    Pema Pera: but that’ s very big and less cosy
    Pema Pera: more for scheduled meetings rather than shooting the breeze
    Solobill Laville: it can be moded, there are others too
    genesis Zhangsun: i like the idea of wanderers dropping in a for a brew and a chat about Being
    Solobill Laville: yep
    genesis Zhangsun: I see something almost medevil
    Pema Pera: yes
    Pema Pera: exactly
    genesis Zhangsun: like knights tying up their horses outside
    Pema Pera: okay, have to run — c u!
    genesis Zhangsun: ok bye!!
    Solobill Laville: bye
    genesis Zhangsun: take care of yourself

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