Attending were Zen, Wol, Riddle, Bleu, Eos, Xirana, Bruce, Aphrodite, and Qt
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Aggers.
Bleu Oleander: hey Aggers
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aggers, Eos :)
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Eos.
Eos Amaterasu: Hi gang!
Qt Core: hi riddle, agatha, eos
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Riddle Sideways: Gang?
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bruce Mowbray: Here comes Xir.
Riddle Sideways: shhhh! Bell
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aph :)
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Bleu Oleander: hey Aph :)
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Aph.
Wol Euler: evening all
Eos Amaterasu: What a bossy bell!
Eliza Madrigal: Hiya Xiri :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Hello everyone
Bleu Oleander: hi Xiri :)
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Xirana Oximoxi: hello everyone! :)
Bruce Mowbray: (Is the implication that we cannot be both mindful and and speak at the same time?)
Riddle Sideways: hi All
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Xir.
Aphrodite Macbain: Sounds like a good name for a cow
Eliza Madrigal: no one wanted to be leader so wol scripted one :P
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Riddle Sideways: usually, but not always , Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: ha ha.
Eos Amaterasu: "please continue to be mindful" seems to imply beingso while in the midst of
Bruce Mowbray: nods.
Bruce Mowbray listens.
Eliza Madrigal: true
PAVILION FEEDBACK SESSION SUNDAY 2PM SLT
Bleu Oleander: may I do a commercial for the Pavilion session feedback tomorrow at 2pm SLT?
Eliza Madrigal: please do
Eos Amaterasu dies from sensory overload
Bleu Oleander: our first feedback session for Pavilion #2
Bleu Oleander: 2pm SLT Sunday here :)
Eos Amaterasu: Oh, so this is the guardian session!
Bleu Oleander: Pavilion #1 will go at the end
Aphrodite Macbain: yup
Aphrodite Macbain: a multi session weekend
Riddle Sideways: need to change intro card to :our leader is a little dinggie"
Bleu Oleander: ok thanks end of commercial :)
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Eliza Madrigal grins at Riddle
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks Bleu :) I came to the feedback session yesterday
Bleu Oleander: oh no
Eliza Madrigal: haha
Bleu Oleander: sunday
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Wol Euler smiles.
Eliza Madrigal: yes, realized that I'd skimmed over that part
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: did you give me feedback?
Aphrodite Macbain: did you get any feedback? :-)
Eliza Madrigal: hm, no just felt silly
Bleu Oleander: :)
BUILDERS GROUP UPDATES
Eliza Madrigal: Okay, as for items...
Eliza Madrigal: I'd hoped to post the WG minutes already, but we're not quite ready yet
Eliza Madrigal: Bleu can you run down with everyone, what you shared about the builders group? And Xiri?
Bleu Oleander: sure
Eliza Madrigal: and Aph (if anything to add) ?
Bleu Oleander: Builders group had their first mtg friday
Aphrodite Macbain watches RIddle's rabbit bouncing all over the grass
Aphrodite Macbain: nothing to add
Bleu Oleander: and we've set up our google group
Riddle Sideways: :)
Bleu Oleander: and starting to make progress
Bleu Oleander: going to work on a sky level first
Bleu Oleander: giving Adams more time to decide on his museum
Bleu Oleander: we'll meet every week for a while
Eliza Madrigal: wow great
Bleu Oleander: rolling right along
Xirana Oximoxi: yes:)
Bleu Oleander: lots of creative ideas
Eliza Madrigal: have you developed a bit of a vision for sky walk area?
Aphrodite Macbain: I've built a sky box next to the museum anyone is welcome to use
Bleu Oleander: we have
Bleu Oleander: we're developing the group space
Xirana Oximoxi: which Museum Aph?
Bleu Oleander: connecting to the art gallery
Aphrodite Macbain: art gallery- sorry
Eos Amaterasu muses skywalking
Xirana Oximoxi: ahhh ok :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eos Amaterasu: skywalker = dakini
Bleu Oleander: nothing else definite to report
Eliza Madrigal: okay thanks , looking forward to ideas
Bruce Mowbray: Moonwalker = Michael Jackson.
GUIDELINES FOR BUILDERS and FEEDBACK MATRIX
Riddle Sideways: will there be guidelines for ground builders?
Riddle Sideways: about butterflies and bunnies?
Bleu Oleander: no not about bunnies lol
Xirana Oximoxi: hehe :)
Bleu Oleander: butterflies maybe but not bunnies lol
Aphrodite Macbain: bunnies are always welcome though
Bleu Oleander: the pavilion project is moving along too
Bleu Oleander: feedback session tomorrow 2pm and then Xiri's pavilion on the 15th
Bleu Oleander: there will be a feedback session for her's
Bleu Oleander: 3rd sunday after her installation
Bleu Oleander: i'll send a notice
Riddle Sideways: goodie
Eliza Madrigal: Stevie will be taking suggestions and ideas to build a kind of feedback matrix so that we can give constructive feedback
Bleu Oleander: we've had additional requests to get in the lineup too
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: what things are important
Bleu Oleander: when considering how to choose a pavilion
Bleu Oleander: oh ..
Aphrodite Macbain: nods
Bleu Oleander: the builders did decide
Aphrodite Macbain: that will be helpful
Bleu Oleander: to take into consideration the pavilion
Bruce Mowbray nods.
Bleu Oleander: and how its centered
Bleu Oleander: keeping in mind how it represents PaB
Eliza Madrigal: can you elaborate a little?
Bleu Oleander: so will relate to position on three levels
Eliza Madrigal: ooh, okay nice
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: acknowledging the relationship
Aphrodite Macbain: 3 levels?
Eliza Madrigal: nice
Eliza Madrigal: thinking of alignment
Bleu Oleander: yes
Aphrodite Macbain: ah
Bleu Oleander: some ideas of honoring our past as well
Riddle Sideways: PaB has 3 levels?
Bleu Oleander: may
Aphrodite Macbain: what about the idea of how to present the noticeboard?
Bleu Oleander: we're still developing ideas
Aphrodite Macbain: for visitors
Bleu Oleander: yes that too
Aphrodite Macbain: and calendar
Bleu Oleander: and central TP station
Eos Amaterasu ?levels¿
Aphrodite Macbain: my question too Eos
Bleu Oleander: many of the spaces will be sky spaces
Bleu Oleander: due to limited space down here
Aphrodite Macbain: for the pavilion?
Aphrodite Macbain: or for all the builds?
Bleu Oleander: reserving the possibility that Adams museum might go east of here
Bleu Oleander: pavilion will be here
Bleu Oleander: and maybe museum east of here
Bleu Oleander: nothing definite yet tho
Bleu Oleander: still in design phase
Aphrodite Macbain: Sorry - were you saying we need to think of 3 levels for the Pavilion Bleu?
Eliza Madrigal: :) Pema says there are 5 ways of PaB, not 3 = https://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2010/01/2010.01.16_07%3a00_-The_Five_Ways_of_PaB [later]
Bleu Oleander: no Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: ah ok
Riddle Sideways: meeting hall and WG hall only need to rez once a week or two
Bleu Oleander: the building committee will present some plans when we are ready :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Eliza- are you suggesting we need to consider Pema's 5 ways of PAB in its builds?
Eliza Madrigal: (kidding, don't mind me) but do continue to be mindful
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Aphrodite Macbain: :)
Bleu Oleander: you're getting ahead of the building group you guys lol
Aphrodite Macbain: sorry- just clarifying what was already said
Riddle Sideways goes back to following
Eliza Madrigal: It just sparked a memory... thought it was PaB 3 ways, so did the search... and found 5... so kind of interesting as a side note
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Bleu Oleander: interesting Eliza :)
Riddle Sideways: /follows side notes
Bleu Oleander: noted!
Eliza Madrigal: the wg has been meeting in the art of being pavilion, which is really nice
Aphrodite Macbain: Do we start anew of look back on our history?
Aphrodite Macbain: of=or
Bleu Oleander: and welcome for all to use
WIKI OWNERSHIP, ETC.
Eliza Madrigal: There was an item Eos brought up for the wg....
Eliza Madrigal: which was about Pema still paying for the wiki
Wol Euler: I thought Pema's email had settled that?
Eliza Madrigal: The group will prob revisit this every so often, but for now, I wanted to let the whole group know what pema said...
Wol Euler: oh, I see. Sorry, never mind.
Eliza Madrigal: yes Wol but that email was in wg with Eos added
Eliza Madrigal: So here is Pema's response:
Wol Euler nods apologetically
Eliza Madrigal: ah, yes no worries///
For now, it may just be simplest for me to continue to pay for the wiki, also because various things are bundled in that payment, including the Kira pages and the Ways of Knowing pages. The $$ amount is far less than the SL tier used to be, so that's not really a problem. Perhaps a few years from now we can reconsider, but for the time being I see no need for PaB folks to pay or to change anything in the current structure. So if y'all are happy with that, so am I. :-)
Cheers,
Piet
Bruce Mowbray: ty, Eliza.
Eliza Madrigal: I'd forgotten how many wikis there are
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Eliza Madrigal: from the earlier kira days
Aphrodite Macbain: I wonder how much it costs...
Bleu Oleander: yes, fun to poke around there :)
Eliza Madrigal nods
Bruce Mowbray: I'm confused.
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Confused
Bruce Mowbray: I thought we sent money to Wol, as treasurer, to pay for this space... What am I missing?
Eos Amaterasu: Pema has been paying hosting and backup costs for the playasbeing.org site (wiki)
Bleu Oleander: the wiki
Eos Amaterasu: That's distinct from PaB costs
Eos Amaterasu: I mean SL PaB costs
Bruce Mowbray: OH. For the wiki, sry.
Aphrodite Macbain: land costs and wiki costs are separate
Bruce Mowbray: ty.
Eliza Madrigal: I was too abridged in describing, but yes
Eliza Madrigal: so we can keep revisiting this, since pema said "for now"
INWORLD RETREAT BEGINNINGS
Eliza Madrigal: As for other items, I'd like to plan a summer retreat
Eliza Madrigal: and would like to hear what sorts of times and dates are best for those interested
Aphrodite Macbain: wonderful
Eliza Madrigal: or if there is a particular focus that might be good/helpful, maybe in combo with wiki-based (pp days format) project
Eliza Madrigal: If anyone would like to visit the new retreat area, there is a teleport disk on my spot - just choose "600"
Eliza Madrigal: (for now anyway)
Eliza Madrigal: Does July seem a good time to plan for?
Aphrodite Macbain: sure
Aphrodite Macbain: or August?
Eliza Madrigal: August might be a little tougher for me, but maybe into the first week of Aug?
Bruce Mowbray: July would be fine with me -- or August, doesn't matter.
Wol Euler: either works for me
--BELL--
Aphrodite Macbain: either
Riddle Sideways: wb qt
Qt Core: ty
Eos Amaterasu: maybe 7-days (as in 99 days) --> retreat --> 7 days ?
Eos Amaterasu: (to get in and out of the mood :-)
Eliza Madrigal: retreat 3 ways?
Aphrodite Macbain: or 5?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eos Amaterasu: there's that 3 again
Eliza Madrigal: I like that idea... seems refreshing like small bites
Eliza Madrigal: maybe end July to beginning August
Riddle Sideways: when is 99 from now?
Riddle Sideways: sorry, re-read
Eos Amaterasu: end of september or so?
Riddle Sideways: like the new bell's thung
Aphrodite Macbain: Fri-Sun: July 31-August 2?
Wol Euler smiles.
Eliza Madrigal: that might work well, Aph!
Eliza Madrigal: will come up with a few scenarios and see how many are interested then narrow down
Aphrodite Macbain: Has a nice sonorous ring to it
Eos Amaterasu: sounds good (bell and date)
Eliza Madrigal: :) Okay I think that's all for official items. I did send an email about dream sessions
Eliza Madrigal: and WG minutes will post soon
Agatha Macbeth: I must remember that
Eliza Madrigal: Nice for Mick to be hosting again
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bruce Mowbray nods, agres.
Agatha Macbeth: Yayy Micko
Bleu Oleander: will you host another time Eliza? or r u co-hosting with Mick?
Aphrodite Macbain: I hope Luci can come sometimes
Eos Amaterasu: What day of the week is that dream session?
Eliza Madrigal: It is a good question Bleu. Right now I'm posting those logs but may move to Wed to host another session
Eliza Madrigal: It is on Thursdays Eos at 1pm
Bruce Mowbray: ... and Maxine, too.
Eliza Madrigal: It isn't a great time to have Luci there unfortunately
Eliza Madrigal: smack in the middle of school hours
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Aphrodite Macbain: :/
Eliza Madrigal: the round world problem
Aphrodite Macbain: maybe not in the summer?
REGION RESTART BACK UP PLAN and POSSIBLE ART SESSION
Riddle Sideways: The Wed. region reboot has moved to Tues. (it seems)
Eliza Madrigal: good question Aph
Agatha Macbeth ponders the square world problem
Eliza Madrigal: during your session, Riddle? Again?
Riddle Sideways: yep
Bleu Oleander: I've been thinking of hosting an art session, would anyone be interested?
Wol Euler: possibly :)
Eliza Madrigal: I like that idea a lot
Aphrodite Macbain: I would be Bleu
Bleu Oleander: talk about art not make art
Zen Arado: elaborate Bleu?
Riddle Sideways: to do art or just talk about it?
Eliza Madrigal: so much to learn from many of you
Aphrodite Macbain: cool
Riddle Sideways: ok
Xirana Oximoxi: is it possible to run to San's place when restarting the region or it is also the same one?
Bleu Oleander: ok will think on it further and send an email :)
Aphrodite Macbain: good question Xiri
Zen Arado: no Kira cafe now:(
Riddle Sideways: it is a different region
Agatha Macbeth: Think it's in Mieum Xira
Bleu Oleander: different sim
Eos Amaterasu: PaB refugee camp?
Eliza Madrigal: nice Bleu, ty
Bleu Oleander: kk
Aphrodite Macbain: Nice refugee camp!
Eliza Madrigal: :)))
Xirana Oximoxi: ok :) so we still can go there :)
Riddle Sideways: yes
Eliza Madrigal: quick thinking
FLYING FISH (solved after session thanks to help - THANKS)
Eliza Madrigal: just a note that what is going on on my plot right now is just an experiment and I can't seem to stop the fish yet
Aphrodite Macbain: Such a lovely garden!
Aphrodite Macbain: fish?
Bleu Oleander: lol
Agatha Macbeth: Doesn't Bruce know how?
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Wol Euler smiles.
Eliza Madrigal: you have to find where they start, to stop them
Aphrodite Macbain: who owns the fish?
Eliza Madrigal: is basically the problem hahah
Bruce Mowbray: ?
Riddle Sideways: sprinkler has run sooooo long there are fish there now?
Bleu Oleander: put transparent on
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Bleu Oleander: so you can see the source
Aphrodite Macbain: they glow
Aphrodite Macbain: bright orange
Eliza Madrigal: transparent? I may need help sometime if okay?
Bleu Oleander: sure
Wol Euler: ctrl-alt-T
Agatha Macbeth: Or just get a rod and pull em out
Eliza Madrigal: okay, making note
Eliza Madrigal: thanks
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Bleu Oleander: option/command T
Eliza Madrigal: they are flying
Bleu Oleander: shows transparent objects
Agatha Macbeth: Fish command Z
Aphrodite Macbain: Advanced, Highlighting and visibility Eliza
Bleu Oleander: hehe Aggers
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: just didn't want to worry neighbors and community
Riddle Sideways: Blub's buddies?
Qt Core: the many road to insight...
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: I have a fishing rod if you like
Eliza Madrigal: need a butterfly net
--BELL--
Aphrodite Macbain: flying fish- yes
Bleu Oleander: clicking on the transparent source it says you can click to turn on and off
Eliza Madrigal: good, iI have hope now :)
Eos Amaterasu: or a blue meanie to suck the fish in
Bleu Oleander: yes :)
Eliza Madrigal: are there other pab items? anything anyone wishes to share about their sessions?
Aph takes out huge fishing rod...
Agatha Macbeth: Ouch
Riddle Sideways: nice aph
Eliza Madrigal: like a chainsaw for butter, hehe
Riddle Sideways: you hooked an Aga
Agatha Macbeth: I seem to be hooked
Eos Amaterasu: uh oh
Xirana Oximoxi: Bleu...I would also be interested :) (about art sessions)
Bleu Oleander: ok thanks Xiri :)
Xirana Oximoxi: yw:)
Agatha Macbeth: Oops
Wol Euler: wb eliza
Agatha Macbeth: Yay WB
Riddle Sideways: wb
Riddle Sideways: did you kilt the fish
Eliza Madrigal: ty! >whew< that has not happed in a while
Zen Arado: wb Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: :) Riddle
Riddle Sideways: or can we still go see them
Aphrodite Macbain: what happened?
Eliza Madrigal: they are for sure still there
Riddle Sideways: k
Eliza Madrigal: I tried cont alt t and all went red then I got stuck
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Zen Arado: poor fish
Agatha Macbeth: Just press them again
Bleu Oleander: yes, turns transparent red so you can see them
Bleu Oleander: press same to go back
Bruce Mowbray coveers Blub's ears.
Eliza Madrigal: ty, silly for me to try from this distance
Bruce Mowbray: covers, also
Bleu Oleander: option/control T ... did I give you the wrong command?
Eos Amaterasu: option is on Mac
Bleu Oleander: yes
Aphrodite Macbain: Do you ave SL or Firestorm Eliza?
Bruce Mowbray: tee hee.
Bleu Oleander: so alt/command then?
Eliza Madrigal: I'm on a pc for SL now and use firestorm
Riddle Sideways: Windows has no Options :)
Agatha Macbeth: True that
Eliza Madrigal: I just need to learn all the tricks
Eos Amaterasu: but has alts
Bleu Oleander: alt command T then lol
Zen Arado: it says alt on my options key too
Aphrodite Macbain: lots of red when I do that!
Bleu Oleander: same thing I think
Bleu Oleander: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: I will go now, have a nice weekend all and see you soon!
Bleu Oleander: red is everything that has transparent textures
Wol Euler: bye xira, take care
Eliza Madrigal: nice to see you Xiri, bfn
Zen Arado: bye Xiri
Eliza Madrigal: any shows coming up Aph?
Eos Amaterasu: ciao xiri
Xirana Oximoxi: bye :)
Bleu Oleander: ok bye Xiri
Aphrodite Macbain: Time to tend my garden. Bye everyone. CU tomorrow
Agatha Macbeth: Hasta porno Xira
Wol Euler: I shall head off too. Goodnight all, take care
Zen Arado: byee all
Eliza Madrigal: bye aph
Eliza Madrigal: night Wol
Bleu Oleander: night Wol
Agatha Macbeth: Looks like that's it then
Qt Core: Night all
Eliza Madrigal: I'm going to walk to the fish if anyone wants to help :) otherwise, have a lovely rest of the evening everyone
Riddle Sideways: bye, nite, so long, ta ta
Eos Amaterasu: ciao bellissimi
Bleu Oleander: ok
Bruce Mowbray: kk, THANKS, everyone. THANKS, Eliza!
Eliza Madrigal: thanks friends
Eliza Madrigal: pleasant sleep
Agatha Macbeth: Why walk the dog when you can walk the fish
Riddle Sideways: ooooo field trip to da fish
Bleu Oleander: bye all
Qt Core: bye
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