2015.06.21 07:00 - Who are we "thinking" to?

The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

We began talking about the new pavilion and the seat poses. Then Eos introduced a topic from last night's guardian meeting regarding to whom we are speaking when we think. We agreed to explore this in the coming week and to report back next week.

Xirana Oximoxi: 's current display-name is "Xirana".
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Adams :)
Adams Rubble: Hello Xirana :)
Adams Rubble: nice place you built
Xirana Oximoxi: thanks :) I am happy you like it:)
Adams Rubble: I do miss the pose we had in the original pavilion. Has that been discussed at all?
Xirana Oximoxi: you mean to sit?
Adams Rubble: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: it has been discussed a bit, that the poses of these cushions are a bit too animate
Adams Rubble: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: I have used Sun's cushions...I don't know how to make my own ..but I think Bleu has some different ones too
Adams Rubble: I do not know if the poses can be extracted from the other cushions
Xirana Oximoxi: it can be a topic to discuss too:) how having so different options to sit can create a different ambience or feeling sitting here
Adams Rubble: hmmm. the poses themselves are no transfer
Xirana Oximoxi: if you own the poses you can insert into the contents..adding the name in the scripts
Xirana Oximoxi: but not sure how to do exactly
Xirana Oximoxi: ahh you have a cushion:)
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: yes but the poses themselves are non-transferable
Xirana Oximoxi: I don't think it is possible to take the animations from the cushion....unless they are free of rights
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...non possible if they are not transfer
Adams Rubble: you are most likely correct
Adams Rubble: the pose is called yokozuwari2
Xirana Oximoxi: maybe we can try to improve the cusions with more skilld builders:)
Xirana Oximoxi: can you see the name of the creator?
Adams Rubble: maybe I can purchase that pose with rights. i will work on it
--BELL--
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...if we know the creator maybne we can buy the poses
Adams Rubble: The name of the person who created the cushions for the original pavilion is Sala Loon but I think she went out iof businessd a long time ago
Xirana Oximoxi: I have found her and still has a shop in her picks (her or his :-)

editor's note: The shop is no longer there. I have IM'd the creator of the cushions about the relaxed female pose.

Adams Rubble: she is on marketplace too but does not sell the cushion with the four poses
Adams Rubble: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p...onrelax/453171
Xirana Oximoxi: I tryied to find the creator of the cosmos I have put around the pavilion and could not find his shop anymore...
Adams Rubble: she sells the formal or relaxed, not both in one cushion
Adams Rubble: Hello Eos :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Eos :)
Eos Amaterasu: HI Xiri & Adams
Xirana Oximoxi: we are talking about the poses of the cushions
Adams Rubble was making trouble
Eos Amaterasu: very timely :-)
Eos Amaterasu: just noticed the bell and incense that appeared with the pose
Xirana Oximoxi: yes:)
Xirana Oximoxi: there are a lot of options
Xirana Oximoxi: well...it depends on which pavilion we chose at the end, but to change cushions poses is not very difficult .. (if you know how ot do :-)
Eos Amaterasu: Yeah... there could be cushion pose suites
Adams Rubble: if we could get the pose with rights it would be easy to add it
Eos Amaterasu: like "Zen sesshin" poses only
Adams Rubble: what is a Zen sesshin pose?
Eos Amaterasu: fairly strict full lotus
Adams Rubble: oh
Eos Amaterasu: sometimes getting whacked with a stick to wake you up and correct your pose
Adams Rubble: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: some poses are more relaxing in my view...but having freedom to chose makes it feel we are more alive
Eos Amaterasu: but we could also have more laid back suites
Adams Rubble: that would be very un-PaB
Eos Amaterasu: like "enjoying the air and the birds and the sounds and the colours...."
Adams Rubble: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...sounds are nice too..I usually have it off
Adams Rubble: I really love this pavilion
Xirana Oximoxi: we still have three more to try I think:)
Adams Rubble: It is closed-in and not closed-in at the same time
Xirana Oximoxi: yes... that was a feature I liked of it too
Xirana Oximoxi: and being spacious too and warm colours
Adams Rubble: yes
Eos Amaterasu: pillars nicely proportioned
Eos Amaterasu: I'm thinking that 6 is minimum "stable feeling" number of pillars
Eos Amaterasu: this has 8, in 4 groups of 2
--BELL--
Xirana Oximoxi: yes... it was a problem until I found out how to do it... yes..I tried pillars alone and they were not very nice...
Xirana Oximoxi: also Bleu has helped me to improve the light when you have Midnight settings
Eos Amaterasu tries that
Eos Amaterasu: umm, nice
Xirana Oximoxi: and Sun helped to put the cushions in order :)
Eos Amaterasu: like a campfire :-)
Adams Rubble: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...and there is a transparent object here that gives a bit of light, so our faces are not so dark and shadowed
Adams Rubble: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: tricks builders know :)
Xirana Oximoxi: have you tried building here Eos?
Eos Amaterasu: only in very minor ways
Xirana Oximoxi: ok:)
Xirana Oximoxi: it's far more easy than in RL :))
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: is there any topic anyone would like to discuss?
Adams Rubble: that seems to have been a conversation killer :)
Xirana Oximoxi: I have not one in mind now... maybe a bit siesta time:)
Xirana Oximoxi: hehe no...I was thinking about a topic to talk about
Eos Amaterasu: there was the "who do you talk to" that was suggested at guardian mtg
Adams Rubble: can you say more?
Eos Amaterasu: (in your internal dialogues or multilogues....)
Eos Amaterasu: I think Eliza suggested that
Eos Amaterasu: (or one of the voices inside her :-)
Xirana Oximoxi: :-)
Eos Amaterasu: Even here I am mentally voicing responses
Eos Amaterasu: some of which end up on screen
Adams Rubble: hmmm. like not all of are thoughts are shared with the log
Adams Rubble: ?
Eos Amaterasu: "if my thought dreams could be seen, they'd probably put my head in a guillotine, but it's all right ma, it's life and life only". - Dylan

It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding) - Bob Dylan

Adams Rubble: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: is the question related to how we can have different points of views about something...when we try to arrive at some conclusions about any topic?
Eos Amaterasu: that's a good one, but I think it's a different one
Xirana Oximoxi: ok :)
Eos Amaterasu: a lot - maybe all??? - of our "thinking" seems to be internal dialoging with "others"
--BELL--
Eos Amaterasu: I see a flower, and a voice comes up saying "look at this flower!"
Xirana Oximoxi: ah yes...that's true.... probably because we are social, even if we feel individuality as the most important part of ourselves
Xirana Oximoxi: even when we read a book we are interacting with the ideas of the writer...
Eos Amaterasu: sometimes it feels like looking through their mind
Eos Amaterasu: and being in their mind
Adams Rubble: :)
Eos Amaterasu: sometimes that mind seems vast
Eos Amaterasu: like Shakespeare, where the language echoes and resonates
Adams Rubble is still listening to Dylan's "It's Alright Ma"
Adams Rubble: wondering what is in his mind
Xirana Oximoxi: :-)
Adams Rubble: was
Xirana Oximoxi: why 'was'...? Dylan was death?
Adams Rubble: was because this song was written once upon a time :)
Xirana Oximoxi: ahhh ok :))
Adams Rubble: does not mean Dylan thinks this now
Xirana Oximoxi: yes.. I understand :)
Xirana Oximoxi: we all change
Adams Rubble: I am still trying to fully understand the topic
Eos Amaterasu: "Bleu Oleander: who do we like to think with? Aphrodite Macbain: ?? Eliza Madrigal intrigued Bleu Oleander: our interior conversations"
Eos Amaterasu: (from Guardian sesson)
Adams Rubble: so not about talking to the log?
Adams Rubble: more what is happening internally?
Eos Amaterasu: it's okay to have an internal conversation with a log :-)
Adams Rubble: hehe
Eos Amaterasu: especially a rotting one
Adams Rubble: I wood if I could
Eos Amaterasu: there's always an internal commentator
Xirana Oximoxi: when I 'talk' internally..I don't have the feeling I am having a conversation with others....but I will pay more attention now
Adams Rubble: yes, me too
Eos Amaterasu: yes, nice practice
Adams Rubble: maybe we can explore and report back next week :)
Eos Amaterasu: yes :-)
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...and it will be interesting to find out 'who these others are' :)
Adams Rubble: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: yes Adams...good idea:)
Eos Amaterasu: Well, thanks Xiri and Adams, ciao!
Adams Rubble: bye Eos :)
Adams Rubble: thank you
Xirana Oximoxi: Bye Eos! I will also go now..thanks Adams and Eos for the nice time chatting:)
Adams Rubble: I am not sure I want to leave this nice pavilion :)
--BELL--
Adams Rubble: bye Xirana :)
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: bye :))