2015.06.28 08:00 - Muscular and Verbal Thinking

The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

Adams Rubble: Hello Eos :)
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Adams!
Adams Rubble: nice to see you :)
Eos Amaterasu: & good to c u here too!
Eos Amaterasu: (looks at the grasses...)
Adams Rubble thinks about the reports on the exercises
Adams Rubble: exercise
Adams Rubble had mixed results
Eos Amaterasu: (if you were talking to me I didn't hear you :-)
Adams Rubble: hehe
Adams Rubble: Do yo have anything to report on the exercise?
Eos Amaterasu: ummm, just got more of a feeling of how subtle this is, how we think and how we think "with someone else in mind"
Eos Amaterasu: at least verbal thinking
Eos Amaterasu: but muscular thinking is also positional
Adams Rubble: yes, not always someone else in mind
Adams Rubble: muscular thinking?
Eos Amaterasu: feeling of physical relationship and maybe movement re "things", which can also be ideas
Eos Amaterasu: from the point of view of words you could say some things are abstractions, but they are deeply felt in the body
Eos Amaterasu: Einstein was a "muscular" thinker
Adams Rubble: would you give me an example?
Eos Amaterasu: how he imagined sitting on a beam of light approaching the speed of light
Eos Amaterasu: he did a "sally"
Adams Rubble: ah, ok
Eos Amaterasu: I"ve noticed how when little kids, babies, start learning language, they are also learning how to be or have certain states of mind
Eos Amaterasu: they pick up language and attitude relationally
Eos Amaterasu: the extreme of that is that we all speak in clichés and memes
Eos Amaterasu: our thoughts are not our own
Adams Rubble: :)
Eos Amaterasu: if you go find yourself, you can't - you find everyone else :-)
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: that is true, and sometimes we find things that someone said when we were six and we have been carrying it around as a "truth" ever since
Agatha Macbeth: Hi folks
Eos Amaterasu: (( ~ )) (quietly)
Adams Rubble: Hello Agatha :)
Eos Amaterasu: Can you imagine being alone and there never ever being someone else?
Agatha Macbeth: I muted the bell cos it never rings on time
Adams Rubble: Last week we decided to do an exercise of watching our thoughts to see to explore to whom our thoughts are addressed
--BELL--
Adams Rubble: this morning we are reporting and Eos is taking us in a new direction :)
Agatha Macbeth: E has a habit of doing that:p
Adams Rubble: We would have to start out alone I think Eos
Adams Rubble: otherwise we would still be reacting to the others
Adams Rubble: this brings us to my discovery about myself this week
Eos Amaterasu listens
Adams Rubble: that in thoughts about a group, I often am reacting to someone from that group and it is not always the same person
Adams Rubble: when I was at work, it was often my supervisor
Adams Rubble: that seems to be related to your observation about thinking others thoughts
Adams Rubble: (to eos)
Adams Rubble: that sure can make one inconsistent
Eos Amaterasu: Eliza brought up the interesting point that with different people we have different kinds of conversations and perceptions and occupations
Eos Amaterasu: different agendas maybe
Adams Rubble nods
Adams Rubble: maybe we seek people out to have those conversations
Eos Amaterasu: that might be an interesting exercise, to see if we can catch such shifts
Eos Amaterasu: yeah, another person can be inhabiting an interesting realm much more than we are
Adams Rubble: sometimes we can be disappointed because a person does not want to have the conversation we are seeking
Adams Rubble: they are in a different place
Eos Amaterasu wonders about the feel of seeking a conversation
Eos Amaterasu: a kind of hunger?
Adams Rubble: yes, a mental hunger
Adams Rubble: maybe some questions?
Adams Rubble: or a desire to pontificate :)
Eos Amaterasu: yeah, a feeling of questions probing into a space to open it more
Eos Amaterasu: but some people already residing there
Adams Rubble nods
Eos Amaterasu: (so you follow them on Twitter :-)
Adams Rubble: hehe
Adams Rubble thinks about the future studies on the effect of Twitter on our thought processes
Eos Amaterasu: our own little world wide webs
--BELL--
Adams Rubble: but then there are the Facebook people
Eos Amaterasu: somehow feels like more spatial or geographical little areas there
Adams Rubble: which would include the effect of cute cat pictures on outr thought processes
Eos Amaterasu: fur sure
Eos Amaterasu: ahm :-)
Eos Amaterasu: must segue out, thanks for this opportunity, Adams!
Adams Rubble: nice to see you. I will not be here next week