2015.10.01 13:00 - Dream Session: Wonderland Jump

The Guardian for this meeting was Mickorod Renard...

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mick :)

--BELL--

Mickorod Renard: hi Eliza
Mickorod Renard: Hi Korel
Eliza Madrigal: Sorry not to be here last week. I did send a message but probably not seen in time
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Kori :)
Korel Laloix: Heya
Mickorod Renard: yeh, no worries..I saw it a bit late
Mickorod Renard: i dont use that email address much now
Mickorod Renard: Hi Cat
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi :)
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, I see. Not sure which I have for you
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Cat :)

Eliza Madrigal: I'll brb... having wardrobe/cushion issues
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Mickorod Renard: he he
Korel Laloix: 'lol..... not the best poses in these.
Mickorod Renard: i sort of stopped thinking about appearance a while back
Korel Laloix: I am not a visual person really.
Mickorod Renard: Hi Fc
Korel Laloix: But I do find that if my AV is in an uncomfortable pose, it makes me kind of that way RL.
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi FC :) ntsy :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Fc :)
Korel Laloix: Osiyo
FcSeeker Resident: Hi all :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu :)
Bleu Oleander: hi all :)
Mickorod Renard: yeh, thats better Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: I have so many clothes and often change on the fly just before session
Korel Laloix: When poses and fashion collide in SL, it can be painful to look at.. smiles
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Eliza Madrigal: exactly
Bleu Oleander: lol
Mickorod Renard: Hi Bleu
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Korel Laloix: I have like 10 outfits... need to get rid of a couple that I don't use... smiles
Eliza Madrigal: I used to spend half my SL time shopping I think
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: really?
Eliza Madrigal: a little exaggeration, but in the beginning I did spend a lot that way
Eliza Madrigal: wandering around
Korel Laloix: It took me years to find a skin that was close enough to actually stick with it... past that, only really shopped for hair.
Bleu Oleander: amazing how much there is
Eliza Madrigal nods
Mickorod Renard: I recall being facinated with all the places here in sl to explore
Korel Laloix: I wonder if RL fashion designers ever pop in SL for ideas.
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: right... the feeling of wandering the streets, although often desolate

Korel Laloix: Did I ever take any of you on my SL historical tour?
Mickorod Renard: you can almost travel the world here too
Catrinamonblue Resident: I've tried several outfits but keep coming back to this one. It's one I like a lot
Eliza Madrigal: We wanted to but don't think we made time for it Kori
Eliza Madrigal: you look very comfortable Cat
Bleu Oleander: what is that Kori?
Korel Laloix: Just a tour of the oldest sites in SL.
Korel Laloix: brb.. at work.
Bleu Oleander: sounds fun
Eliza Madrigal: agree

Eliza Madrigal: Does anyone have dreams to share today?
Mickorod Renard: I gave out two last week..but this week i am a lil short of them
Mickorod Renard: I have a small pretty insignificant one,,should noone else have one
Eliza Madrigal: oh, that's rare
FcSeeker Resident: little panda might have....
Mickorod Renard: yeh
Eliza Madrigal: Okay great.
Mickorod Renard: go for it Fc
Eliza Madrigal: If it is long Fc, you can paste to a notecard
Catrinamonblue Resident: I have one but haven't had time to put in note card
Eliza Madrigal: or just type in chat if OK to share in the logs

FC's timeline dream...

FcSeeker Resident: I dreamet that there was a line, that shrinked of its end
FcSeeker Resident: and that came already true
Mickorod Renard: btw Eliza, any I have given in note card you can or could put in the logs
FcSeeker Resident: ...as I often see time to be a line.....and that dream told me, that something coming shall come quicker
FcSeeker Resident: the next week I got letter from office that gives info of one's rights to retire.....donno for sure the spelling....
FcSeeker Resident: to stop working and get money that one has payed; pension ?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Mickorod Renard: sound good FC
FcSeeker Resident: I had thought to retire on 2018

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: that's interesting... so the dream was sort of a pictograph?
FcSeeker Resident: getting that letter I felt need to calll to that office and I was advised to retire
FcSeeker Resident: next month I'll do that and shall still be well
Eliza Madrigal: congratulations!
Mickorod Renard: that sounds a great dream Fc..a sort of premortory dream..is that the right word Eliza?
FcSeeker Resident: thank you :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes Mick
Bleu Oleander: ponders a retired panda :)
Eliza Madrigal: heheh
Mickorod Renard: We dont get many prem dreams
FcSeeker Resident: today I sent the apply, and I'm still a bit in shock for that......having huuuuuuge strong motions.....as for few years I've been afraid that what if I must retire before 2018

Mickorod Renard: oddly enough, I had a similar letter about a year ago but I retired anyway and havnt bothered to ask for my pension..maybe I should look into it
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes I think our subconscious keeps calculations our conscious doesn't, and in touch with the wider environment, including social environment, in ways we're not necessarily aware of, until we are

2nd dream...

FcSeeker Resident: but one dream I'de be happy if somebody could help me.....this; I dreamed that me and my spose had eaten 'tonns' of shrimps.....
Eliza Madrigal: you should, Mick!
Eliza Madrigal listens for more of shrimp dream :))
Mickorod Renard: mmm shrimp eating is something I havnt thought about
Eliza Madrigal: can be kind of sensual... peeling and eating shrimp... sort of handsy and primal? lol
FcSeeker Resident: ....as I've learned, that fish eating 'knows' the most high spiritual 'food' to one's spirit.....
Mickorod Renard: was there some context,,or rather a story around the shrimp eating Fc?
FcSeeker Resident: ah; my spouse have got two serious surgeries and is slowly recovering.....so.....cannot think any sensuall.....

Bleu Oleander: ponders sensual pandas eating shrimp
Eliza Madrigal giggling
Korel Laloix: A great band name.

FcSeeker Resident: and yes; those shrimps was such from 'can'; pealed and added awesome good sauce.....
Eliza Madrigal: sorry to hear Fc, but sensuality can be not just physical...
Eliza Madrigal: or totally unrelated :)
FcSeeker Resident: I sure am aware of that :)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Mickorod Renard: I am at a loss to add anything useful Fc,,sorry
Eliza Madrigal: maybe further thoughts will come up
Mickorod Renard: but i am glad your partner is getting better
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Bleu Oleander: feeling like I would like shrimp for dinner tonight
Eliza Madrigal: :)

FcSeeker Resident: but ....well....does somebody completely disagree, if I take, that it's even higher spiritual 'food'......that it could've be the symbol to get free of much fears....
Catrinamonblue Resident: sorry to be away, was typing my dream into a note card, reading back :)
Korel Laloix: I have one from Sama if you wan to hear it...
Eliza Madrigal: hard to say, Fc
Korel Laloix: Just put it together from what she told me.
FcSeeker Resident: please Korel
Catrinamonblue Resident: I have a dream to share in note card now if ready?

Eliza Madrigal: We'll read Cat's next , then would love to get to know Sama a little
Korel Laloix: OK..
Mickorod Renard: Fc, I was thinking that maybe as well as physical repair that spiritual repair is also very important during a recovery

My eyes were in the notecard when Cat asked...

Catrinamonblue Resident: Eliza can you share that note card around? I'm not very deft with such things
FcSeeker Resident: ah yes; the healing takes place at first in soul, then in physic, is my leanred ....

Cat's dream...

Catrinamonblue Resident: Hope it was the right note card
Eliza Madrigal: "Cat's Dream" yes
Eliza Madrigal: love the feeling of this dream
FcSeeker Resident: ....little panda didn't get that nc....
Mickorod Renard: thankyou Fc, for sharing your dream
Korel Laloix: I did not either... thanks
Eliza Madrigal: yes ty Fc
Mickorod Renard: nor I yet
Bleu Oleander: me either
Bleu Oleander: ty!
Mickorod Renard: ty eliza
Catrinamonblue Resident: Eliza is helping me... I'm not very deft on this tablet in such things
Eliza Madrigal: yw - we should all be set now :)

Eliza Madrigal: Cat, did you help your dad with car things in RL?
Catrinamonblue Resident: I helped him a bit around the house with home repairs but never with a car
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: neat...hm...
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes the others in our dreams are really ourselves too
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Mickorod Renard: very nice dream
Eliza Madrigal: so my first thought is this feeling of performance anxiety and then compassion for a tumble (?), then a kind of daring leap
Eliza Madrigal: could be you in various stances
Bleu Oleander: alice in wonderland jump
Korel Laloix: I am trying to think if I have every had a dream with another person in it... need to read my PaB logs.. I cant' remember my dreams after a few days at all.
Mickorod Renard: yes
Eliza Madrigal: yes! I love the jump!
Catrinamonblue Resident: :) I wish I hadn't woken up at that point
Catrinamonblue Resident: would have liked to explore the city

Bleu Oleander: sl is a kind of jump I think
Korel Laloix: Or maybe a skip.
Eliza Madrigal: deliberate whimsy
Mickorod Renard: I do like these sorts of dreams because to me they seem to be showing that with a bit of faith the world opens up more
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)

Bleu Oleander: do you remember what the book was?
Catrinamonblue Resident: no I don't :)
Eliza Madrigal: work related?
Catrinamonblue Resident: Somehow I don't think it was work related... not sure what it was
Catrinamonblue Resident: dad and I have had a very rocky relationship over the years but now doing ok.....
Eliza Madrigal: the first part of the dream being sort of male focused and the second female, is notable
Catrinamonblue Resident: So I liked the beginng of us working together
Eliza Madrigal: that maybe you acquired skills from him?
Mickorod Renard: it could be that the book signifies old knowledge..memories perhaps..and the later bit new horizons and potential?
Catrinamonblue Resident: oh I like that Mick :) yes very much could be
Catrinamonblue Resident: and yes Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: would almost suggest the anxiety is its own vehicle.. pushing you from practical into more adventurous
Bleu Oleander: the book could be a self help book for your boss and you tremble having to read it aloud to your boss
Eliza Madrigal: ooh
Catrinamonblue Resident: not sure Bleu the dream was several weeks ago so I don't remeber now very well, I wrote out the minute I woke in my journal but thats it

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aggers :)
Agatha Macbeth: I forgot waht day it was :(
Bleu Oleander: hi Aggers

Eliza Madrigal: so by this logic you have the city to explore now ^.^
Mickorod Renard: its interesting that he thanks you for the intro to the book
Agatha Macbeth: Ta
FcSeeker Resident: ....it can also mean, that some of your learned shall 'crash' just to make space to new views.......in Tarot's that would be the 'tower' card.....
Catrinamonblue Resident: just sent Aggers my dream :)
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, me too, haha
Mickorod Renard: which suggests he is now familiar with its contents
FcSeeker Resident: such leades always to wider awareness....
Mickorod Renard: so the asking you to read is odd
Eliza Madrigal: a boss wanting you to read something familiar would be for you to learn and see, perhaps
Eliza Madrigal: more than for himself
Bleu Oleander: or to embarrass you perhaps?
Catrinamonblue Resident: hadn't thought of it that way... interesting :)
Mickorod Renard: maybe the boss is your inner self and that you could take some of what you also know but were too fearful of to act upon?
Catrinamonblue Resident: not to embarass no, that wasn't the feeling there
Eliza Madrigal: but then you introduced the book to him...hm..so something you already knew (too?)
Bleu Oleander: maybe a book you wrote?
Catrinamonblue Resident: no one else noticed me stuttering, may have been in my own mind that I did
Eliza Madrigal: ah
Eliza Madrigal: I relate to this dream a lot... coping with anxiety often opening to unexpected things

Mickorod Renard: I also like what Fc was poining towards,,the need sometimes to bring about a fall to start afresh
Eliza Madrigal: yes
FcSeeker Resident: ....I think, that cause all had agreed with learning, which you are now ready to expand.....
FcSeeker Resident: I also agree with Mick, that thiis 'boss' is your own self

Catrinamonblue Resident: is it a fall to come or something already past? As there was a deep fall 2.5 years ago.... not sure though?
Eliza Madrigal: it IS very Alice-y..facing things by going into them more fully
Bleu Oleander: seems more like a worm hole to me
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: I love the Alice story
Bleu Oleander: falling into another world
Mickorod Renard: I doubt you need to fall again..its more about a threshhold that you may be ready to cross
FcSeeker Resident: the FEELING of alll to go to parts, but yes; that shall pass y and bring more clarity to all you already have learned, and expand the view

--BELL--

Catrinamonblue Resident: there is some potential moving in the near future... wonder if that has anything to do with it.
Eliza Madrigal: mhm, and the beginning with a kind of core competency. that is the foundation..
Catrinamonblue Resident: still some uncertainty from outside source
FcSeeker Resident: that has :)****
Bleu Oleander: moving can feel like falling into an other world
Mickorod Renard: true
Eliza Madrigal nods
FcSeeker Resident: even that yes; to 'other world'
Mickorod Renard: maybe its best to just be open to change
FcSeeker Resident: indeed :)
Eliza Madrigal: one needs a bit of stability in order to take risks... perhaps even in spite of anxiety and challenges, you have ability to leap :))
FcSeeker Resident: indeed :)
FcSeeker Resident: the GOOD change :)

Catrinamonblue Resident: oh I am... but not easy to live with uncertainty
Mickorod Renard: whats that buddhist term for that?
Bleu Oleander: there is no certainty ... all is change
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes Eliza :)
FcSeeker Resident: that's the most hard phase; uncertainty.....so much everybody misses to know.....
Eliza Madrigal: impermanence.. groundlessness... it is the scary thing and the comfort too
Mickorod Renard: hats it Eliza
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Mickorod Renard: ty
Eliza Madrigal: comforting in being true, nods... all is change
Agatha Macbeth: Plus ca chage plus sa meme chose
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Mickorod Renard: we waste so much effort in trying to hold onto what will change
Eliza Madrigal: natural

FcSeeker Resident: hmmm.....when we are not clear, we can try to find a sentence of the truth, and focus to it, as only truth brings warmth to heart
Catrinamonblue Resident: The RL thing for me is wanting the change, all is planned. but outside influence is yet to be detrmined, though that will be known in about 6 weeks
FcSeeker Resident: so for example these;
FcSeeker Resident: All is well
Catrinamonblue Resident: it's just waiting it out to see what happens there as it will have an infuance on plans
FcSeeker Resident: I am safe
Eliza Madrigal: nods

Sama's dream...

Eliza Madrigal: Kori, want to ask if Sama's dream is a long one... perhaps better kept for next week if you can make it?
Korel Laloix: Short.
Eliza Madrigal: maybe she could even peek in and we can say hello/congratulate on nuptuals? :))
Korel Laloix smiles
Catrinamonblue Resident: Thank you all :) lots to think about :)
Mickorod Renard: thankyou cat
Eliza Madrigal: wonderful dream Cat, seems timely. thank you
Agatha Macbeth: ^.^
Bleu Oleander: thank you for sharing it Cat
FcSeeker Resident: thank U Cat
Eliza Madrigal wonders if there was lots of shrimp in the city...hehe
Catrinamonblue Resident: you can post it in the log :)
Eliza Madrigal: Okay Kori, ready?
Mickorod Renard: he he
Korel Laloix: Stop making me hungry.
Eliza Madrigal: ty Cat
Korel Laloix: Sure.
Bleu Oleander: still wanting shrimp for dinner lol
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)

Korel Laloix: She dreamed she was on sort of a road trip in a large stretched black car. Not like a limousine, but like it had been miss-made or was in a wreck where it got stretched vs crunched. But she was in the back and it appeared to have no driver, but was still well driving and very comfortable. So in her dream she wanted to take a nap, but she wanted to see what mile marker she was at before she napped so when she woke up she could look again and see how far they have gone.
Korel Laloix: It was then she realized that she did not know were she was going. So she looked out the window, but every time she tried to look out the windows, they went black. She could only look out of them through the corner of her eyes. Eventually she saw enough glimpses to know she was in Estonia heading to Saint Peter Russia. Then she remembered she was going to a job interview also realized she was not prepared for it.
FcSeeker Resident: (loves shrips also, as much as bamboo)
Korel Laloix: So to buy some time she tried to tell the drive she needed to pull over for a bathroom break, but again, no drivers. But after a while she realized that she really did need to pee and woke up.

Agatha Macbeth: Bamboo and shrimps?
FcSeeker Resident: Delicious *
Korel Laloix: I can't really answer any questions about it... hope I got it right.
Mickorod Renard: cool dream
Agatha Macbeth: Glad she woke up anyway
Mickorod Renard: would remind me of an anxiety sort of dream
Eliza Madrigal: did she wake with anxious feeling I wonder... feeling of no one being in control exactly yet directedness
Catrinamonblue Resident: neat dream :)
Eliza Madrigal: the description of the car is fascinating
Korel Laloix: I dont know.. I can ask her for next time .
Eliza Madrigal: unprepared, in a sort of mis-made car, on a predetermined course, with no driver
Bleu Oleander: off to get some shrimp ... take care all ... thanks for sharing your dreams :)
Eliza Madrigal: lol

Mickorod Renard: perhaps a sign of wanting to know where life is going or alternatively some acknowledgement of needing to prepare fully...maybe
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bleu :)
Korel Laloix: ciao
Mickorod Renard: bye Bleu
Agatha Macbeth: Shrimp well
Bleu Oleander: byeee
Eliza Madrigal: black windows is evocative too
Eliza Madrigal: really given as little info as possible and yet work riding on it
Korel Laloix: Her dreams seem artsy to me.
Korel Laloix: But she is very creative.
Korel Laloix: Oh... one thing I left out.
Korel Laloix: She dreamt that one in Spanish.
Eliza Madrigal: hmmmm
Mickorod Renard: black windows blocked the view out,,rather than in
Agatha Macbeth: Hola
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: it is a sort of deep blank state....

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: slate/canvas
Mickorod Renard: I guess again, its a sort of ..your a passenger...he he ..in life
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: wormhole too? ... think I'm being influenced by previous dream... traveling in a sort of tunnel yet there is a destination

The way she tells me...

Korel Laloix: What I find intersting is how she tells me her dreams.
Mickorod Renard: ahh,,tunnels are sexual arnt they?
Agatha Macbeth rings Fc's bell
Korel Laloix: She sort of goes into this blank state...
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Korel Laloix: Blank stair like she is reliving them as she tells me.
Mickorod Renard: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Oh I have those too
Eliza Madrigal: in this territory everything could be sexual :)
Mickorod Renard: he he
Catrinamonblue Resident: going to go guys, long day today, am tired :)
Eliza Madrigal: dreams sort of come out of a different place... so to remember them we kind of disconnect from usual place we're speaking from?
Catrinamonblue Resident: see you all later
Eliza Madrigal: ntsy Cat, thanks
Korel Laloix: Ciao
Mickorod Renard: bye Cat
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Catty
Korel Laloix: The look on her face is almost creepy sometimes.
Eliza Madrigal: they are so slippery... so easily slip away
Korel Laloix: As someone that almost never remembers her dreams, I am fascinated.

Mickorod Renard: now then, I am having to leave you folks,,I have a visitor on rl
Korel Laloix: Work... take care all...
Eliza Madrigal: Okay, thanks Mick
Korel Laloix: ciao all
Mickorod Renard: take care everyone..thankyou...all.great dreams
FcSeeker Resident: be well Cat
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Micko

Mickorod Renard: is there anything on this coming week?
Mickorod Renard: Hi Ags
Eliza Madrigal: weekend? no..but you need to vote
Eliza Madrigal: on the pavilion!
Agatha Macbeth: Always something on somewhere
Eliza Madrigal: send me top two choices
Mickorod Renard: ah yes, been very busy these weeks
Eliza Madrigal: Bleu has made a good page
Eliza Madrigal: has photos with numbers
Eliza Madrigal: the link is in emails
Mickorod Renard: still waiting for the week delayed baby
Mickorod Renard: I must look,,and to see Xirs book
Eliza Madrigal: ooh wow
Eliza Madrigal: yes...Xiri's exhibit is lovely
Eliza Madrigal: refreshing
Agatha Macbeth: Red and spotty
Mickorod Renard: ok,,better go for now
Mickorod Renard: byeeeee x
FcSeeker Resident: bye Mick
Eliza Madrigal: cyousoon
Agatha Macbeth: Auf wiedersehen

Nightmares...

Eliza Madrigal: I need to go too.... but I heard something interesting today, dreaming related, wanted to share
Agatha Macbeth: Fire away
FcSeeker Resident: ***
Eliza Madrigal: So there was a link to 3 ted talks on lucid dreaming...
Eliza Madrigal: the first two were normal stuff... or at least normal for anyone who has been interested for a while...
Eliza Madrigal: but the third link, the shortest, had a neat story
FcSeeker Resident: **
Eliza Madrigal: The speaker described being on a buddhist retreat...
Eliza Madrigal: and asking his teacher one morning, how he had slept...
Eliza Madrigal: the teacher replied
Eliza Madrigal: "Great! I had wonderful nightmares!"
Eliza Madrigal: so this was a strange idea to the speaker, who in dream work was always trying to do the fun stuff
Agatha Macbeth ponders 'fun stuff'
Eliza Madrigal: the gist is that he took a turn toward seeing every dream as "great" material
Eliza Madrigal: :) Aggers
FcSeeker Resident: (loves nightmares)
Eliza Madrigal: really?
Eliza Madrigal: most who have nightmares try not to remember their dreams

FcSeeker Resident: sure; the more awful nightmare, the better one deals with own fears in order to get rid of them :)'
FcSeeker Resident: and that turns things upside down....
Eliza Madrigal: perhaps the difference is confidence in awareness to receive insight
FcSeeker Resident: ...like healing pain; it turns to be bad, if do not understand it....mothers uses to know it.....
FcSeeker Resident: for baby birth....
Eliza Madrigal: facing it and going in more deeply to get to the other side, as it were
Eliza Madrigal: thanks, Fc
Eliza Madrigal: and ntsy Aggers too
FcSeeker Resident: **

Eliza Madrigal: I need to give son back the internet cable for homework :)
Agatha Macbeth: Nitsy Aggers
Eliza Madrigal: :P
Agatha Macbeth: Nutsy
Eliza Madrigal: nicey nutsy
FcSeeker Resident: **
Agatha Macbeth: I'll try to remember what day it is next week
Eliza Madrigal: YES
Eliza Madrigal: meep
Agatha Macbeth: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
FcSeeker Resident: C U *
Eliza Madrigal giggles
FcSeeker Resident: be well
Eliza Madrigal: Night friends
Agatha Macbeth: TC both