2018.08.14 12:00 - Dream Session: Lost in Thin Places

 

 

 

Tura Brezoianu: hi Eliza

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Tura :)

Eliza Madrigal: maybe not necessary to send a notice today but will anyway :)

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zen :)

Tura Brezoianu: Bahari Ghibb!

Zen (Zen Arado): Hi Eliza, Tura

Tura Brezoianu: hi Zen

Eliza Madrigal: Good to see you both

Zen (Zen Arado): you too
 

 

Eliza Madrigal: pretty lillies

Eliza Madrigal: San seems to change the flowers nearly every week, which is nice

Zen (Zen Arado): and I never even noticed

Eliza Madrigal: :) now you will

Zen (Zen Arado): I never look around much in SL

Eliza Madrigal: but now that we noticed she may stop? hah

Eliza Madrigal: I like the way San cultivates things in SL... pays attention to small details

Zen (Zen Arado): nice of her yes

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Alma :)

Tura Brezoianu: hi Alma

Zen (Zen Arado): Hi Alma

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): hi Agatha, Eliza, Tura, Zen

Eliza Madrigal: I have been playing with my spot downstairs a bit... some bubbles and flowers added... dreamy things

 

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Agatha :)

Zen (Zen Arado): Hi Aggers

Agatha Macbeth: Evening all

Eliza Madrigal: Come from dancing and no time to change?

Zen (Zen Arado): I haven't got a spot here

Agatha Macbeth: I was at the ballet on Sunday

Eliza Madrigal: Ohh :)

Agatha Macbeth: Mm, it was excellent

Eliza Madrigal: I've never seen a ballet in SL... just a machinima once that featured

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): I've seen some pretty spectacular SL dance performances

Eliza Madrigal: remember the Bolero work that went on a few years ago... was really neat

Agatha Macbeth: This was Deja Vu they are really good

Eliza Madrigal: ty for the tip!

Agatha Macbeth: Usually at the Royal Opera at 2pm every Sunday

Eliza Madrigal: good to know

Eliza Madrigal: So, who has dreams to share today, or a dreamy topic

Zen (Zen Arado): have you seen them before?

Zen (Zen Arado): :-)

Eliza Madrigal hasn't yet

 

Eliza Madrigal: I had a *wonderful* dream but it is really long

Zen (Zen Arado): Déjà vu

Agatha Macbeth: Yep

Agatha Macbeth: Nothing beats a long one Liz ;-)

Eliza Madrigal: sigh :)

Zen (Zen Arado): the longer the better

Eliza Madrigal: I can't paste the whole thing, but I did add it to the wiki

Agatha Macbeth: Nice Tommy Cooper hat BTW

Eliza Madrigal: and I can paste the very end

Agatha Macbeth: Just like that

Zen (Zen Arado): :-)

Eliza Madrigal: the dervish outfit made me choose between my frivolous comforts like hair, and the hat :)

Zen (Zen Arado): don't think Americans have heard of him

Agatha Macbeth: :P

Zen (Zen Arado): he died during a performance  and the audience thought it was part of the act

Zen (Zen Arado): listens

Eliza Madrigal: :(

Eliza Madrigal: very much our times, that story

Eliza Madrigal: OK....

 

Eliza Madrigal: so here is the link to the dream (at the end), but I'll paste from the end of that...

Eliza Madrigal: https://wiki.playasbeing.org/Guardian_Pages/Guardians'_Contributions/Eliza/Dream_Practice_-_2018/E_Dreams

 

Eliza Madrigal: The last part of the dream is when it feels most magical. A small party is going on in the open area of the castle(?) that looks out onto the wide lawn. I'm talking with a small group of 'remarkable' people (smiling to myself as I write that since in PaB, we have watched 'Meetings with Remarkable Men' for session today).

Eliza Madrigal: (wrote that Thurs, obviously)

Eliza Madrigal: And a man who is a lot 'like' Colin Firth, but I don't think he 'is' Colin Firth, greets me with a hug. I'm lightly surprised and hug him back with intention to let go normally, but he just stays there, and puts his head on my shoulder. That's okay, pretty nice, so I relax into the hug a little more and just think how nice it is. This goes on for a while, and people continue talking to me, even though his back is to them, hugging me.

Eliza Madrigal: At some point I come to a moment of asking myself whether to ask him if he's okay - if he needs something, or even if he fell asleep on my shoulder, but I like him there so I decide not to, decide instead to relax more fully into the hug. And it is at this point that I feel a lot of energy in the dream... also as though I'm not exactly dreaming anymore.

Eliza Madrigal: There is a nurturing presence that I'm allowing to be stirred, seemingly from me at first, that maybe I think he needs, but then it isn't mine, it is that we both needed this. It is energizing and enlivening us both.  [a shared meditative experience]

Eliza Madrigal: Then I'm aware again of other people in the room, still coming to talk to me, but he stands next to me and looks at them too now. And Harrison Ford comes in (no idea, I have no particular interest or attachment to H. Ford that I know of ;P), and begins warning us of some kind of impending invasion.

Eliza Madrigal: I notice that my hugging friend is wearing a red velvet coat, and I begin lightly wondering what era I am in (also, maybe questioning what his loyalties are, and who/whether I should follow when the invasion comes), as I wake gently (no sense of panic, just ease).

Eliza Madrigal: [wonder whether the last part has to do with mention of the Revolutionary War in the last dream session :)]
(done)

 

Zen (Zen Arado): and trying to remember who Colin Firth was

Eliza Madrigal: What I wanted most to share about the dream, is that borderland sort of, entering into nurturing rest kind of meditative experience

Eliza Madrigal: it felt like what one of our dream teachers was pointing to a little

Eliza Madrigal: Hm, Firth is an actor... Kings Speech?

Agatha Macbeth: Yes

Eliza Madrigal: I don't think it was him, but meant to mean something by being him

Zen (Zen Arado): just wasn't  he in  a Jane Austen story

Zen (Zen Arado): he gets his shirt wet

Eliza Madrigal: haven't actually thought about that part much but it is notable

Eliza Madrigal: hah, yes... Price and Prejudice, and people had the mass hallucination

Zen (Zen Arado): he's a very good looking guy
 

Zen (Zen Arado): are you sure it was just meditation experience Eliza?

Zen (Zen Arado): :-)

Eliza Madrigal: his personality makes him seem nice looking I think, but anyway, this is, although I can't call it a lucid dream, what I have wanted to get back to

Eliza Madrigal: :) knew you'd ask that, or someone would :P

Zen (Zen Arado): I'm so predictable :-)

Eliza Madrigal: so I almost didn't share it, hah, but yes it really was

Eliza Madrigal: no, it is that it is a good question, reasonable one :)

Eliza Madrigal: probably not altogether unfounded, as I think feelings of intimacy and that kind of rest are not so easily parsed

Zen (Zen Arado): exactly

Tura Brezoianu: At the end you're wondering whether to go with Colin Firth or Harrison Ford.

Tura Brezoianu: Not a bad choice to have :)

Zen (Zen Arado): maybe you associate him more with the Jane Austen story

Zen (Zen Arado): it was one of his best parts I think
 

Eliza Madrigal: I think that part really was about the Revolutionary War...

Eliza Madrigal: maybe that he is English and wearing a red coat...

Zen (Zen Arado): okay maybe that is more in the consciousness of Americans

Eliza Madrigal: why velvet I have no idea :)

Zen (Zen Arado): who never seem to hear that much about it here as I said last week

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): the redcoats are coming!

Zen (Zen Arado): velvet seems more like people in a lounge

Eliza Madrigal: I think these sessions are very much in my mind during dreaming, which is odd, because doesn't seem others are having that experience

 

Zen (Zen Arado): it was a nice reassuring relaxing dream

Zen (Zen Arado): maybe what you needed

Eliza Madrigal: it felt like a breakthrough for me

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): maybe reconnecting with a part of yourself

Eliza Madrigal: I haven't felt really relaxed in RL since I stopped having that kind of deep rest experience

Zen (Zen Arado): why do you say that Eliza?

Eliza Madrigal: in dreams

Eliza Madrigal: it felt integrative, until the end when it was time to wake up

Eliza Madrigal: from the rest of the dream, you can see there are lots of people in my life, on the peripheries

Zen (Zen Arado): Yes it feels quite  healing to me

Eliza Madrigal: and there is overlap but not intrusiveness or pressure

Zen (Zen Arado): like someone holding you close and telling you to ignore all of these other people for a bit

Eliza Madrigal: and there is a little room that I keep just for myself

Eliza Madrigal: yes

Eliza Madrigal: :) anyway thanks... might be a dream personal to share but doesn't feel that embarrassing to me

 

 

Agatha Macbeth: Wish I had dreams like that

Zen (Zen Arado): me too

Zen (Zen Arado): nice to have someone to give us a little comfort from time to time

Eliza Madrigal: I take it as an opening to keep going with

Eliza Madrigal: dreams can be very comforting

Agatha Macbeth: Yeh

Eliza Madrigal: so that's it for me :)

Eliza Madrigal listens

Zen (Zen Arado): thanks Eliza

Agatha Macbeth: Wasn't too long

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): thank you Eliza

 

 

Eliza Madrigal: Oh, didn't realize. Sure!

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala) listens
 

Zen (Zen Arado): It seems that when we are confronted by the possibility of recognizing that we’re dreaming, our egoic sense of self often tries to confabulate a seemingly rational explanation for the reality of the situation. For example, we might see a flying elephant and be on the cusp of lucidity, but then convince ourselves that flying elephants are quite common in this part of the world.
 

Zen (Zen Arado): Why would our egoic sense of self do this? Because it feels threatened by lucidity. Once we’re lucid, we see through the illusion of our egoic sense of self and become part of the dream, beyond any notions of me, my, I and ‘other’. We are in fact one with everything in the dream and so the stranglehold of the egoic self is released. To prevent this, out of misjudged desperation it sometimes tries to stop us from becoming lucid.
 

Zen (Zen Arado): In the Castaneda text The Art of Dreaming, the protagonist Don Juan tells his student that our rational mind will try to protect itself if we encounter ideas or concepts in our dreams that seek to usurp our notion of accepted rationality. This idea of rationality fighting for its own survival in the face of irrational dream experiences is one that beginner lucid dreamers may sporadically encounter, often in the form of dream characters denying that they are ‘the stuff of dreams’ as our rational mind tries to maintain control over the dreaming status quo.
 

Zen (Zen Arado): Luckily, as our lucid dreaming practice progresses and our use of reality checks increases, the frequency of confabulation decreases, but beginners, beware – once you suspect that you might be dreaming, don’t accept any facts to the contrary without checking them thoroughly. Just like Lieutenant Columbo.

 

Morley, Charlie. Dreams of Awakening: Lucid Dreaming and Mindfulness of Dream and Sleep (Kindle Locations 1134-1147). Hay House Uk. Kindle Edition

Zen (Zen Arado): done

 

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): thank you Zen

Zen (Zen Arado): I know we touched on this before but it is quite important I think they see it happening to myself more and more

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): along those lines, I had a dream in which I should have become lucid, but didn't :(

Zen (Zen Arado): listens

Eliza Madrigal: that's a great excerpt... really helpful to ponder. Ty Zen

 

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): I was in my childhood home, which by itself should have made me realize I was dreaming

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): I went up my bedroom and looked out the window. I was shocked to see that the whole front porch had been taken off the house

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): It even occurred to me that this was a dream-like experience, but I was sure I was awake and really there, so I didn't do a reality test

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): there were other dream signs too: a TV that turned off by itself, and a light switch that didn't work.

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): but my mind convinced me that it was all very real

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): *sigh*

 

Eliza Madrigal: the dream was really doing everything it could to get through to you

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): yeah

Agatha Macbeth: I've known RL light switches that didn't work

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): so have I

Eliza Madrigal: but doesn't it seem it is becoming very solid, or that the signals are, making more of a tangible door to enter into lucidity through ?

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): it's like I have not been able to quite muster enough focus and mindfulness to be able to wake up in a dream

Eliza Madrigal: you can see a few things that together 'should' have been obvious and were, but that you didn't respond to

 

Eliza Madrigal: what do you think would help or is missing?

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): it's like whatever I am experiencing, my mind tells me, "this is real", and I just believe it

Zen (Zen Arado): it's the big problem

Tura Brezoianu: Is it telling you that right now?

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): of course it is

Eliza Madrigal: :)

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): I've been getting back to doing more reality testing during the day for the last week or two

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): we'll see if it helps

Zen (Zen Arado): I think there are a lot of parallels with real-life too

Tura Brezoianu: They say that if you get into the habit of always testing it, then you may be able to do that in a dream

Zen (Zen Arado): it's like the left brain wants to keep us thinking about things rather than relax into what is happening

Zen (Zen Arado): it wants us to keep submerged in stories about reality rather than experience it through our senses

 

 

Tura Brezoianu: It rarely occurs to me in a dream that I might be dreaming, whatever happens

Eliza Madrigal: hard to relax that sometimes, the analyzing part may check off the signs and signals but not go the next step

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): there is a sense that, "this is real, you have to deal with it, there is no time for wondering if it's a dream"

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): the situation seems to demand action, so that there is no pause for questioning if its real

Eliza Madrigal: I continue to think time perception is really crucial... in almost every dream I can call lucid, time felt to slow dramatically

Eliza Madrigal: almost overriding that tendency to react to what is going on

Zen (Zen Arado): yes my dreams  are so engrossing

 

Eliza Madrigal: Tura, right before you are waking, do you have the question of whether you're dreaming sometimes?

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): I get swept up in the action, and just keep running on autopilot, as Charles Tart might say

Tura Brezoianu: Not particularly. When I'm awake, then I know I'm awake.

Eliza Madrigal: hm.

Zen (Zen Arado): sigh at least you are getting some glimpses of lucidity

Eliza Madrigal: was thinking sometimes we have a reverse cue, that it is time to get up

Tura Brezoianu: When I realise I'm dreaming, I think it's probably because I'm already beginning to wake.

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): I think that's true for me too, Tura

Eliza Madrigal: yes

Tura Brezoianu: so my occasional lucid episodes don't last long

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): exactly

 

Tura Brezoianu: Sometimes, like when dozing off on a train, I get into a hypnogogic state when I know I'm sort fo awake but contemplating dream-like scenes as well

Zen (Zen Arado): I am experimenting with hypnogogic states

Zen (Zen Arado): yes that's just what I was going to say Tura

Zen (Zen Arado): that I sit in the sun and I feel myself starting to doze so I can kind of see when a dream is starting and try to wake up again

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): hypnogogia is very interestintg

Zen (Zen Arado): and play with that

Zen (Zen Arado): maybe that's the way into lucid dreaming

 

Zen (Zen Arado): but I never seem to remember dreams after a nap

Eliza Madrigal: do you time your naps?

Zen (Zen Arado): I used to but I think it's better to just let it be more natural

Zen (Zen Arado): with some days it can be less than  an hour and others may be hour and the half

 

 

Eliza Madrigal: Did I ever share the 'thin places' NY Times article from several years ago?

Zen (Zen Arado): so hard to write hour  with Dragon!

Zen (Zen Arado): are, our

Eliza Madrigal: :)

Zen (Zen Arado): Not sure Eliza

Agatha Macbeth: Send for St George

Eliza Madrigal: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/t...the-world.html

Eliza Madrigal: This is a beautiful little article, and I think super relevant to what we talk about... was thinking about train travel and jet lag and that kind of trancy-ness, when it came to mind just now

Zen (Zen Arado): thanks Eliza  I will read it later

 

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): most of the thin places I have experience have been in natural environments

Eliza Madrigal: thin places notion has its roots in Ireland, Zen. I think you'll like it

Agatha Macbeth: Bejasus

Eliza Madrigal: say more, Alma? particular environments like woods, or ocean?

Zen (Zen Arado): yes that sounds familiar but it's more geographical I think

Zen (Zen Arado): geographical places?

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): woods, mountains, shorelines, ...

Zen (Zen Arado): Yes

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): just about any place where nature is predominant can be like that for me

Zen (Zen Arado): I'm such a city boy I don't know much about these things in Ireland

Eliza Madrigal: :)

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): makes me feel like I am standing on the threshold of another world

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): almost dream-like sometimes

Eliza Madrigal: mmm, love that

Eliza Madrigal: I'm rarely able to go and find or seek out a thin place... they have to come to me

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): like looking through a window into a bigger, older world

Zen (Zen Arado): some people are more sensitive to these places  Aren't they?

Tura Brezoianu: Listening to the silence in an English country church does it for me.

Agatha Macbeth: Enjoy the silence

Eliza Madrigal: so nice

 

 

Zen (Zen Arado): I watched some videos by an Irish spiritual teacher claimed she could see ghosts

Zen (Zen Arado): can't remember her name

Eliza Madrigal: I'm surprised you're not very familiar with Celtic mysticism, Zen. Things like reading messages in tree branches... wonderful notions

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): it's funny that I rarely dream about being in nature, but on the occasions when I do, it is sometimes a very profound experience

Zen (Zen Arado): I had a Protestant upbringing and Protestants are generally not into mysticism :-)

Eliza Madrigal: :)

Agatha Macbeth: Hehe

Eliza Madrigal: my protestant upbringing just pretended it wasn't mysticism they were doing, hah

Agatha Macbeth nods

Eliza Madrigal: we had horseshoes over doorways, things like that

 

Zen (Zen Arado): I have a dream the other night my dog, driving and getting lost all in the same dream

Eliza Madrigal: wow

Zen (Zen Arado): I don't seem to have recorded it though, I don't know why

Agatha Macbeth: Your dog was driving and got lost?

Zen (Zen Arado): but I remember enough I think

Eliza Madrigal: was it cohesive, or might you have been dreaming about dream signs?

 

Zen (Zen Arado): I was driving and a small car like the Ford Fiesta and a friend was sitting beside me and my dog was in the back seat peering over my shoulder as usual

Agatha Macbeth: Sure hope that *was* a dream

Agatha Macbeth: Oh

Zen (Zen Arado): we seem to be in France and looking for a place but I didn't know what I was looking for

Zen (Zen Arado): my friend told me to just keep driving

Zen (Zen Arado): but I decided to stop and I went into a little shop that sold tourist things and maps

Zen (Zen Arado): there were two little Frenchwoman and I told one of them I was lost, je suis perdu

Zen (Zen Arado): and then I woke up

Zen (Zen Arado): done

Agatha Macbeth: Merde

Zen (Zen Arado): there was a bit where the dog got out of the car and I had to shout at him to come back in again in case he got lost

 

Agatha Macbeth: There's a Paddington story a bit like that

Eliza Madrigal: nice dream, Zen, meandering and familiar

Zen (Zen Arado): I remember my dog used to sit in the back seats of cars with his head beside mine looking through the windscreen and then he would bark and make me jump :-)

Agatha Macbeth: He was giving directions

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): back seat driver :)

Agatha Macbeth: What breed is he?

Zen (Zen Arado): no  he was barking at other dogs :-)

Eliza Madrigal: your friend wanted to stay the course but the dog wanted to get out and run around :)

Zen (Zen Arado): border collie crossbreed

Agatha Macbeth: Aww lovely

Eliza Madrigal: Oh, active!

Eliza Madrigal: of course he wanted to run around :)

Agatha Macbeth: Looking for sheep

Eliza Madrigal: such smart dogs

 

Zen (Zen Arado): but absolutely no lucidity

Agatha Macbeth: Wonder how Luci is

Eliza Madrigal: accumulations of life experiences

Zen (Zen Arado): and three of my most popular dream  themes, driving, my dog, and getting lost

Eliza Madrigal: nods, which is why I'm surprised it was just an easy feeling dream

Eliza Madrigal: maybe some appearances are too comfortable to be strong dream signs

Zen (Zen Arado): there didn't seem to be much anxiety

Eliza Madrigal: you want to stay in them not go through them

 

 

Zen (Zen Arado): it's strange getting lost and not knowing where you want to go to

Eliza Madrigal: lost is like a place of its own

Zen (Zen Arado): it's not easy to get lost these days

Eliza Madrigal: somehow I manage

Agatha Macbeth: Even when you try

Tura Brezoianu: go somewhere there's no phone signal :)

Zen (Zen Arado): :-)

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): There's a great poem about being lost in the woods

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): by David Wagoner, I think

Eliza Madrigal: I found that! Maybe nice to post to close session...

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): http://blog.bestamericanpoetry.com/t...d-wagoner.html

Eliza Madrigal:

 

Lost

 

 

-- David Wagoner 

(1999)

 

Agatha Macbeth: He should have written an opera with a name like that

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): thank you Eliza

Eliza Madrigal: Such a beautiful poem, thank you for mentioning it

Zen (Zen Arado): lovely poem thank you

Zen (Zen Arado): I have to go byee

Eliza Madrigal: bye Zen!

Tura Brezoianu: bye Zen

Agatha Macbeth: TC Zenny

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): bye Zen, be well

Eliza Madrigal: :)

Eliza Madrigal: full session, much to muse

 

Agatha Macbeth: Are you going to do your dervish dance Liz?

Eliza Madrigal: sadly, I couldn't work it out

Agatha Macbeth: Awww

Agatha Macbeth: Poo

Eliza Madrigal: not that I'm finished trying, but I had just a small window :)

Eliza Madrigal: and I filled that with bubbles and boats and dreaming moons

Agatha Macbeth: As one does

Eliza Madrigal: as one does

Eliza Madrigal: :)

 

Eliza Madrigal: Alma, will you take us on a tour of your place sometime?

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): oh sure, if you want me too, or you can always explore on your own

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): it's about half of a sim

Agatha Macbeth: Good heavens

Eliza Madrigal: and filled with natural environments?

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): yes

Eliza Madrigal: what inspired you?

Eliza Madrigal: sorry, lots of questions :)

Agatha Macbeth: Ve vill ask ze questions

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): it just sort of grew. I started out with a 1024 parcel, and put a cabin, a pond, and some trees on it.

Eliza Madrigal giggles @ Agatha

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): then as the neighboring parcels went for sale, one by one, I kept picking them up ... one thing led to another

Eliza Madrigal: Goodness

Agatha Macbeth: Yes you never know who might move in

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala) smiles

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): it became sort of an obsession, to try to recreate the experience of nature in SL

Eliza Madrigal: think that's wonderful

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): but I am not a skilled builder or designer, so the effect is rather crude

Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like a good obsession

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): I named it Maplewood, after the cabin where my family used to spend summer vacations when I was growing up

Eliza Madrigal: I used to wake in the middle of the night and just walk and walk around places in SL, usually natural spots, waterfalls... actually meditative sometimes, help you sort your mind

Agatha Macbeth: Mm

Eliza Madrigal: that's sweet

Eliza Madrigal: as has been this time :) I better go... am in the middle of a project and I feel it fading from my day

 

Agatha Macbeth: Got the log?

Eliza Madrigal: would really love to roam Maplewood sometime though

Eliza Madrigal: I think so, Agatha, ty :)

Agatha Macbeth: Ok

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): please do. you are welcome to have meetings or events there too, if you want

Agatha Macbeth: Best to check

Eliza Madrigal: nice, maybe nice to have a dream session one week?

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): there are links in my profile

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): that would be great, yes

Eliza Madrigal: K, will email, ty

Tura Brezoianu: goodnight everyone

Eliza Madrigal: Nite Tura, Agatha, bye Alma

Agatha Macbeth: TC Tu

Agatha Macbeth: And Alma

Alma di Masala (Almadi Masala): bye for now

 

Eliza Madrigal: didn't see you change clothes!

Agatha Macbeth: Shame about the dervish

Agatha Macbeth: Yep

Agatha Macbeth: Did it sneaky

Eliza Madrigal: haven't given up, just haven't figured it out

Eliza Madrigal: need your skills!

Agatha Macbeth: Aww give it time

Agatha Macbeth: You have them, if desired

Agatha Macbeth: Not sure what I could do tho

Eliza Madrigal: I think, since the whirlign is part of the outfit, it has to be me

Eliza Madrigal: sigh :)

Agatha Macbeth: Is it an animation?

Eliza Madrigal: script I think

Eliza Madrigal: not sure, have to fidget more

Agatha Macbeth: Ah scripts can be tricky

Eliza Madrigal: for me, it has to be 'wear and touch' or I get jumbled :)

Agatha Macbeth: Hehe

Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like me with mesh

Eliza Madrigal nods, forget mesh :)

Agatha Macbeth: Oh I try!

Agatha Macbeth: But it won't forget me :p

Eliza Madrigal: :) okay...poofing

Eliza Madrigal: ♥ ♥ ♥

Eliza Madrigal: ♥ ♥ ♥
Agatha Macbeth: Byee