The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza. The comments are by Agatha.

Agatha Macbeth hears bells
Agatha Macbeth: Must be a Liz approaching
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Eliza Madrigal smiles.... and with a script going wild as I try to whirl yet again
Agatha Macbeth: Hiya
Eliza Madrigal: Hiya :)
Agatha Macbeth: Still no good?
Eliza Madrigal: this is probably an older outfit, maybe not kept up with :)
Agatha Macbeth: Shame
Eliza Madrigal: a little
Agatha Macbeth: Would have liked to see you twirl
Eliza Madrigal: I'm sure there are spinning ARs
Eliza Madrigal: AOs*
Eliza Madrigal: How is the day?
Agatha Macbeth ponders a spinning abuse report
Agatha Macbeth: Oh the day is mostly done
Agatha Macbeth: Just about to close the curtains
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Tu
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Tura :)
Agatha Macbeth: Gets dark around 9PM now
Tura Brezoianu: hi Agatha, Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: I'm one of the few people I know who appreciates sun setting early-ish
Agatha Macbeth: How come?
Eliza Madrigal: then again, I also like rain
Agatha Macbeth: Oh me too
Agatha Macbeth: And thunder
Eliza Madrigal: yes me too ^.^
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Agatha Macbeth: The rain can be a little heavy in your parts sometimes I think
Eliza Madrigal: It is so hot here, especially during summer, that I wait to do anything outside until evenings
--BELL--1.00
Agatha Macbeth: Actually it's been a bit like that here too
Agatha Macbeth: Unusually
Eliza Madrigal: it can be, strong and in short bursts.
Eliza Madrigal: So I hear. Oppressive this year?
Agatha Macbeth: At least I got the garden tidied up a bit
Eliza Madrigal: yay
Agatha Macbeth: Yep, mostly
Eliza Madrigal: If I were where you are, I would grow roses
Agatha Macbeth: Still haven't got around to painting tho
Agatha Macbeth: Oh I have a coupla rose bushes
Agatha Macbeth: A rose by any other name and all that
Eliza Madrigal: would still smell...
Agatha Macbeth: Thorny
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: You, Tura? Garden?
Tura Brezoianu: A small one, front and back of the house, but I struggle to keep it in order.
Agatha Macbeth pictures Tura riding round the garden on a bike
Tura Brezoianu: The recent heat wave helped, with nothing growing :)
Agatha Macbeth: True dat
Eliza Madrigal grins
Eliza Madrigal: that's when you need succulents
Agatha Macbeth: Lawns have hardly grown
Agatha Macbeth: Which I can live with
Eliza Madrigal: my tiny patio has tomatoes and herbs, a desert rose and a pony tail palm :) Pretty nice out there lately
Agatha Macbeth: Oh woot
Agatha Macbeth: As long as George doesn't dig it up
Eliza Madrigal: He won't go out there
Eliza Madrigal: fraidy dog
Agatha Macbeth: No use as a guard dog then
Eliza Madrigal: Anyway :) I suppose I should have sent an email this week too?
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, possibly, hm
Agatha Macbeth: Do you usually? I forget
Eliza Madrigal: I read a few chapters of Meetings with Remarkable Men, to compliment the film
Eliza Madrigal: Not unless we have 'something' going on
Agatha Macbeth: I noticed a couple of differences
Agatha Macbeth: Like how Pogosian got injured
Agatha Macbeth: In the book it was a spider bit him
Agatha Macbeth: In the film he got shot
Eliza Madrigal: Ah
Eliza Madrigal: that is a big difference
Agatha Macbeth: Well, true
Agatha Macbeth: Don't see many armed spiders thankfully
Eliza Madrigal: :) not even in SL?
Agatha Macbeth: Oh SL is different
Tura Brezoianu: I guess it make for a more interesting scene
Tura Brezoianu: *made
Agatha Macbeth: He would have probably have been into BDSM in SL
Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Bleuji :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu :)
Tura Brezoianu: Really?
Bleu Oleander: hey all :)
Tura Brezoianu: hi Bleu
Eliza Madrigal: The film excerpted interesting scenes, but the book reads more like anyone's 'story of their life' might read
Agatha Macbeth: Not sure if he intended it as an autobio
Bleu Oleander: hi Storm :)
Eliza Madrigal: interesting encounters leading to quests and more interesting encounters, changes in one's self
Agatha Macbeth: Stormy :)
Tura Brezoianu: hi Storm
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Storm :)
Storm Nordwind: Hello! :)
Eliza Madrigal: probably not, Aggers
Agatha Macbeth: More like a travelogue
Tura Brezoianu: One always wonders, did any of this actually happen, or is it deliberate mythology, or a teaching in disguise?
Agatha Macbeth: (Sp?)
Tura Brezoianu: At least, I wonder that
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: to both comments actually
Agatha Macbeth: Well I did wonder about the bird painting :p
Agatha Macbeth: Is there such a thing as an American canary?
Eliza Madrigal: hha, I'm not sure if canaries are american, but there are canaries about :)
Agatha Macbeth: And do they sell for 5 roubles
Eliza Madrigal: 5 roubles American? :)
Eliza Madrigal: Has anyone here ever tried to write out their own adventures in a similar way?
Agatha Macbeth: That only happens in Russia...
Agatha Macbeth: Well I never got as far as Afghanistan personally
Tura Brezoianu: In Russia, story writes YOU
Agatha Macbeth: Probably Tu
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Just look at Dostoyevsky
Tura Brezoianu: It's a pity all Gurdjieff's haunts are war zones these days
Agatha Macbeth: Yes isn't that a strange coincidence
Eliza Madrigal: I do like reading that... all the overlaps of religions and cultures, clashing but coexisting too
Agatha Macbeth: I pondered it meself
Eliza Madrigal: at least to some extent
--BELL--1.15
Agatha Macbeth: But gone are the days when you could just poke around old ruins for ancient parchments sadly
Agatha Macbeth: Pity
Agatha Macbeth: I would love to do that
Eliza Madrigal: The reason I asked about writing one's own story, is that if you try to, you encounter faulty memory and bits of madness...
Eliza Madrigal: maybe par for the course of writing as you experienced something but also with current outlooks
Agatha Macbeth: Oh if was me certainly!
Agatha Macbeth: And then some
Agatha Macbeth: Especially the mad bit
Bleu Oleander: faulty memory and bits of madness ... a given re humans :)
Agatha Macbeth: Mm
Agatha Macbeth: Some moar than others
Eliza Madrigal: How you saw someone when you first met them, what changed, etc. I was thinking of a friend who described their father as towering, picturing him standing in a doorway.... but he really wasn't, and they could only see that when grown
Eliza Madrigal: and actually 'older' not just grown
Agatha Macbeth: Differing perspectives
Storm Nordwind: Memories say as much about you as about what is remembered.
Agatha Macbeth: Now to a Tralfamadorian that would all look totally different :p
Eliza Madrigal nods, I learned a lot about this friend in that story
Agatha Macbeth: Friends do constantly surprise one
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: well it helped me to understand what a giant figure their father continued to be in their psychology all their life (so far :P)
Agatha Macbeth: Guess some fathers are like that
Eliza Madrigal: The first chapter of the book felt like that too
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal sips wine
Eliza Madrigal: So what is interesting with everyone?
Agatha Macbeth: Well G hopefully, or have we moved on?
Eliza Madrigal: Not at all, if more to say and hear :)
Bleu Oleander: will we do another book anytime soon?
Agatha Macbeth: Mm, would be good
Agatha Macbeth: Or film, whichever
Bleu Oleander: either :)
Eliza Madrigal: Would be nice too, but my classes are getting a bit harder now, so I don't want to commit to organizing until they're over
Eliza Madrigal: films are easier!
Agatha Macbeth: Harder as inworkload?
Bleu Oleander: how many classes are you taking?
Eliza Madrigal: mhm, learning databases and ways of research
Agatha Macbeth: Oh kewl
Eliza Madrigal: it is one intensive course... but the lawyers in the class say they are trying to cram a lot into very little time and I believe them :))
Eliza Madrigal: plus, I'm so spoiled in my habits
Eliza Madrigal: it is hard to change :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah well...
Eliza Madrigal: spent my birthday taking quizzes and notes
Eliza Madrigal: boo :) lol
Agatha Macbeth: Oh happy birthday
Eliza Madrigal: ty :)
Bleu Oleander: awww ... happy birthday!
Agatha Macbeth: I'll drop you a line on FB
Agatha Macbeth: Thought it like the 17th or 18th
Eliza Madrigal: thanks very much, don't mean to complain, I feel like I'm in the right place at the right time, which is what one likes to feel on their birthday
Agatha Macbeth: I'm never in either so wouldn't know
Eliza Madrigal giggles
--BELL--1.30
Eliza Madrigal: Also I'm hesitant to start organizing book chats because I'm reading a great deal...maybe a counterbalance
Eliza Madrigal: plowing through books
Agatha Macbeth: A lone furrow
Eliza Madrigal: would be hard to stop and go slow week to week
Eliza Madrigal: But did you have something in mind for Fall, Bleu?
Bleu Oleander: no haven't given it much thought yet ... reading so many great books this summer ... hot out, so zooming through some good ones :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles, yup, same
Eliza Madrigal: lots of cave time
Agatha Macbeth: Zooming Bleu
Bleu Oleander: have you read Le Guin's Lathe of Heaven?
Tura Brezoianu: I have
Agatha Macbeth: Newp
Eliza Madrigal: omgoodness, would love to
Agatha Macbeth: Old Ursula
Bleu Oleander: great ... dreaming and reality
Bleu Oleander: yes an old one I had missed somehow
Bleu Oleander: but finding it now is probably more interesting to me
Agatha Macbeth: It happens to the best of us
Eliza Madrigal: right times :)
Bleu Oleander: also 'flights' by Olga Tokarczuk ... booker prize
Bleu Oleander: really interesting
Eliza Madrigal: fiction also?
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: author is from Poland
Eliza Madrigal: making note :)
Agatha Macbeth knows lots of Poles
Eliza Madrigal: I made the terrible mistake of listening to the 2nd Stalin volume on audio. The narrator was painful.
Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
Agatha Macbeth: I couldn't imagine Stalin being anything else
Bleu Oleander: I've tried a few audio books lately and only enjoy them if the readers are good, which hasn't been many
Eliza Madrigal: The first was good, so I know it wasn't the writer's fault
Bleu Oleander: I prefer hearing my own voices :)
Storm Nordwind: Sadly not every book can be narrated by Stephen Fry
Eliza Madrigal: Or Benedict Cumberbatch...
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Eliza Madrigal: or Storm!
Storm Nordwind: ha!
Storm Nordwind: Hmm... a whole new career opens up...
Eliza Madrigal: Honestly
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: I also don't like readers who change their voice during the reading to sound different ... doesn't come across that well
Storm Nordwind: You mean like being a voice actor, rather than a narrator?
Eliza Madrigal: I was surprised that Jonathan Strange worked well on audio. He changed his voice a lot, but it wasn't distracting at all
Bleu Oleander: yes, being more of a voice actor
Eliza Madrigal: Tura, meant to mention that I received "Lifeshocks" in the mail, too (no kindle/audio for that one)
Eliza Madrigal: very pretty book, enjoyable intro
Eliza Madrigal: have been thinking of that concept a lot
Agatha Macbeth: Oh Aretha has died
Agatha Macbeth: 76
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, you're just seeing? :( yes
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: Didn't know
Agatha Macbeth: Loved her voice
Bleu Oleander: sad ... love her!
Eliza Madrigal: amazing
Storm Nordwind: R.E.S.P.E.C.T.
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Amen
Bleu Oleander: love some of the clips from Obama years on youtube
Tura Brezoianu: I hope you enjoy the book, I'll be interested to know what you think of it
--BELL--1.45
Eliza Madrigal: Thank you, I'll let you know. So far it is very touching, but I'm not far in
Eliza Madrigal: Circling back to the Gurdjieff tales, in that kind of framing, each notable encounter or strange event is a kind of orienting lifeshock
Eliza Madrigal: Finding PaB was that for me
Agatha Macbeth: Being shattered by the question
Eliza Madrigal: indeed
Tura Brezoianu: An opportunity to wake up, and see what is.
Agatha Macbeth: The dances were fascinating
Tura Brezoianu: Noticing is the first skill. Like noticing when you're dreaming (to tie this to the dream sessions)
Tura Brezoianu: I found a web site about the Gurdjieff movements, with a video of a performance at a music festival: http://gurdjieff-movements.net/videos/
Eliza Madrigal clicks
Agatha Macbeth: Oh thanks
Agatha Macbeth: A friend of mine was talking about Gabrielle Roth's 5 rhythm dancing recently, I wondered if it was similar
Agatha Macbeth: That seemedto be about mindfulness too
Tura Brezoianu: A friend of mine introduced me to 5 rhythms some years back, and I went to a group for a few months
Agatha Macbeth: Oh great
Eliza Madrigal: Not familiar at all
Agatha Macbeth: You need to stick with dervishes Liz ♥
Eliza Madrigal: google says she is a student of the "deep dark divine"
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Mmmm
Agatha Macbeth: Nice
Eliza Madrigal: Dance is such a powerful medium
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Tura Brezoianu: The sessions I went to were very free-form, which I found excruciatingly embarrassing to do the first few times
Agatha Macbeth: Just look at the Rite of Spring :P
Tura Brezoianu: although I got over that to some extent
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Eliza Madrigal: Eden does something like a free form spiritual dance regularly, with a group
Eliza Madrigal: sounds like great fun... but yes I guess takes some daring initially
Agatha Macbeth: She would! x
Agatha Macbeth waves to Edie if she's reading
Eliza Madrigal: Have you seen the "Pina" film?
Agatha Macbeth: Colada?
Eliza Madrigal: :P
Agatha Macbeth: Wossit about?
Eliza Madrigal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aANfMDccoy0
Eliza Madrigal: Friends took me to see this show... had never heard of her before but it was astounding
Bleu Oleander: yes love Pina
Eliza Madrigal: she had just passed away then, and the film followed soon after
Eliza Madrigal: so much seems backwards in her choreography, but that makes it great :)
Agatha Macbeth: Would have been difficult to follow just before :p
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth slaps herself
Bleu Oleander: film was great
Eliza Madrigal: looks so visceral, but the dancers work so hard to be precise
Eliza Madrigal nods, wonderful film
Eliza Madrigal: and she always used older dancers as well as young, which was refreshing
Agatha Macbeth: I tend to associate visceral films with Genghis Khan
Eliza Madrigal: what? :)
Agatha Macbeth: What :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
--BELL--2.00
Agatha Macbeth pokes Liz
Eliza Madrigal: maybe time to have a dance soon
Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
Agatha Macbeth: stop
Agatha Macbeth: There ya go
Bleu Oleander: lol
Tura Brezoianu: true dervish style
Eliza Madrigal: years later... parchment version 2008-2018 discovered... ancient dance of the onigokko
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Tura Brezoianu: BTW, I'm going to be away for the next few weeks, on holiday with email but no SL.
Bleu Oleander: trailer for film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=CNuQVS7q7-A
Agatha Macbeth: Awww
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, will miss you. Is this when you are visiting Japan?
Eliza Madrigal: ty Bleu
Tura Brezoianu: Yes, I'll be spending most of the time drumming
Agatha Macbeth sighs
Eliza Madrigal: the coolest thing
Eliza Madrigal: vigorous trance?
Tura Brezoianu: too vigorous to be in trance, I think
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Storm Nordwind: When you take a break and need a drink, take care not to be confused by the wording on the vending machines >;-) https://goo.gl/maps/7tMfgVm8mRK2
Agatha Macbeth: Erk
Eliza Madrigal clicks
Eliza Madrigal: "Your heart are thirsting for a good feeling of place"
Eliza Madrigal: haha love that
Storm Nordwind nods and smiles
Tura Brezoianu: Pocari Sweat is a popular brand
Agatha Macbeth: All your base are belong to us
Storm Nordwind: You have no chance to survive make your time
Eliza Madrigal: I have a photo of a sign that says "this way", with an arrow to the left, and "this way", with an arrow to the right
Eliza Madrigal: I think, how not helpful at all, and lovely too
Storm Nordwind: Well I must go be a chauffeur. See you all soon.
Bleu Oleander: have a great trip Tura ... see you all soon
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, bye Storm :)
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bleu
Agatha Macbeth: Chauff well Stormy
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Bleuji
Bleu Oleander: bye all
Eliza Madrigal: Wish you safe and happy travels Tura
Agatha Macbeth: Looks like that's it then
Eliza Madrigal: and a less hot garden, Agatha :)
Tura Brezoianu notices the new flowerbeds
Agatha Macbeth: Yes would be nice
Tura Brezoianu and the floating boat...
Agatha Macbeth: Oh San's?
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Eliza Madrigal: that's a tiny dream land
Tura Brezoianu: ship of dreams
Agatha Macbeth: Oh no, yours
Agatha Macbeth: Kewt
Eliza Madrigal: mhm, meant for lolling about
Agatha Macbeth: *GIGGLES* :)Agatha MacBeth 16 August 2018
Eliza Madrigal: :) ty... got to play a little
Agatha Macbeth: That was meant to say L O L :p
Eliza Madrigal: :) Agatha
Agatha Macbeth: You know me
Eliza Madrigal: may pause dream session for a few weeks... since so many traveling and I'm a little swamped
Eliza Madrigal: hope you share your adventures upon returning, Tura!
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Agatha Macbeth: Yes
Tura Brezoianu: I'll still be here this Tuesday, but after that I'm away
Tura Brezoianu: goodnight then
Agatha Macbeth: Rhiannon's been on holiday for about three months
Eliza Madrigal: Okay :) Nite
Agatha Macbeth: TC Tu
Eliza Madrigal: wondered where she'd been
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Agatha Macbeth: School's out as they say
Eliza Madrigal: :) for most
Agatha Macbeth: (Or as Alice does anyway)
Eliza Madrigal: bye for now <3 <3 <3
Agatha Macbeth: Nighty night
Agatha Macbeth: ♥