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Widget Whiteberry: in my most vulnerable moments, negative triggers have the tinge of betrayal, and I think "how did I let that get by me"?
Widget Whiteberry: well yes, a negative trigger, launched by another
genesis Zhangsun: interesting how quickly we can go from "something is happening" to "something negative is happening" to "I am to blame for this negativity" like in a flash
Widget Whiteberry: or 'this negativity is about me*"
genesis Zhangsun: or "this negativity says something about who I am"
Pema Pera: well, have you been playing a bit with the notion of "dropping what you have to see what you are"? That may be a fun topic!
Widget Whiteberry: I have not!
Pema Pera: have you tried the 9 seconds breaks in general?
Widget Whiteberry: yes
Widget Whiteberry: frequently
Pema Pera: how did that go?
Pema Pera: or how does that go?
Widget Whiteberry: ☆smiles☆
Widget Whiteberry: for me, they are a moment to center myself
Widget Whiteberry: and let go of whatever is occupying my attention
Pema Pera: ah, you see, a shift from what you have to what you are -- you've secretly been doing it already :-)
Widget Whiteberry: lol
Widget Whiteberry: how clever I am!
Gaya Ethaniel: Calvino Rabeni: there is a saying - Show me a man who can make a perfect cup of tea, and I will show you a man who can do anything.
Wol Euler laughs.
Wol Euler: so true.
Archmage Atlantis: What does that saying mean to you. Gaya?
Gaya Ethaniel: One learns a particular thing that is congenial to do, enriching perhaps then ... s/he can learn to do other thing just equally well without going through typical 'learning' processes ... I think that's what I saw in this.
Wol Euler nods. It's about attention and ... hmmmm ... recognition of the worth of doing things well
Archmage Atlantis: Ah, that is similar, but not the same as the meaning I heard
Wol Euler: which some people don'T recognize.
Gaya Ethaniel: Please say more?
Wol Euler: IMHO )
Gaya Ethaniel: What is the meaning for you then Arch?
Archmage Atlantis: Making a perfect cup of tea, a metaphor, is about learning how tea and the rituals around it, are in existence in a particular culture
Archmage Atlantis: Is there a "right" way to make tea?........I grew up on tea as brewed and prepared in the SE US
Gaya Ethaniel: It's relative?
Gaya Ethaniel: I think ...
Wol Euler: mmhmm, sure is. The tea ceremony is one way
Wol Euler: indian roadside chai is another
Gaya Ethaniel: An ideal is quite subjective :)
Eden Haiku: But is there matter?/ Does the vast universe ends?/And does it matter?/
Synergy Watanabe: our universe could be an atom on another microbe
Vendy Walpole: yes, i have that thought too
Synergy Watanabe: our conscious mind will never know
Synergy Watanabe: we can only speculate
Vendy Walpole: we can experience Being
Eden Haiku: I was reading "A Course in Miracles " then. A big influence...I think it starts with: This is a space of miracles...
Pema Pera: I like the opening lines of that book: Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists.
Archmage Atlantis: One of my favorite quotes is from the theologian Paul Tillich
Archmage Atlantis: The courage to be is to accept oneself, in spite of being unacceptable
Calvino Rabeni: Radical acceptance is a good pre-requisite for change.
Calvino Rabeni: I have a dogma allergy, and luckily this group feels pretty clear
(Corvi says..Bless you, Calvino. Me too.)
Bolonath Crystal: do you think there is a big difference between happiness and suffering? or is it maybe the same, only seen under a different aspect?