22 - 24 Eos Noticings

 

Nov 22 - 24, 2009, scribing by Eos

2009.11.22 01:00 - Operating in PaB

http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/2009/11/2009.11.22_01%3a00_-_Operating_in_PaB

Quite an interesting discussion of the nature of Play as Being

Vendy Walpole: I am surrounded by flowers, what happens?

Vendy Walpole: Is this new landscaping or SL game ?

Moon Fargis: both and neither of both :

Moon Fargis: :)

Vendy Walpole: Hm. well, I do not mind to sit among flowers, that I call a beautiful morning

Stargate Tone: ah yes...star learned at very early age that she must not plan 'anything' 'ever'

Calvino Rabeni: Hello PAB people!

Vendy Walpole: I read somewhere that the chaos is not so bad actually

Vendy Walpole: Because it is the step before the sorting things

Vendy Walpole: so, it is neseccary at some stage to be in chaos even :)

Stargate Tone: ...even to create the mess...

Stargate Tone: (star is very good with that)

Vendy Walpole: (vendy is not bad as well)

Stargate Tone: smiles widely

Vendy Walpole: giggles

Moon Fargis: hmmm it was more simple at the begining, wch is naturally as pab growed by people, but it turned from a, meditation prcatise into a intellectual brainstorming expression war sometimes

Vendy Walpole: can't we have the both at the same session?

Vendy Walpole: there is time for meditation and discussion

Stargate Tone: practicly that's been also possible

Moon Fargis: ah i dont mean discussion, there here always loots of babbling goingon :)

Moon Fargis: but people started over the time to express natural happenings my them with scientific expressions and unnessesary much analytics which drives them often into the trap that their ego blocks their way of free feeling and a open mind

Vendy Walpole: I understnd what you say, well, each of us should try to be focused to the main point and share own eperience about practice with others

Moon Fargis: but, hmm let me give a example, still feel everytime not verry well when i hear this expression once made in pab: "Appreciate the presence of appearance as a presentation by Being"

Vendy Walpole: hmm, not sure I get it

Vendy Walpole: do you understand it Moon?

Bertram Jacobus: why not moon ?

Bertram Jacobus: and vendy - for me , i can reduce that sentence to one word : appreciation ...

Moon Fargis: well i know the background so yes i have a idea about it, but this sentence is a expression of a special state archived by one who practised pab and tryd to express it with it intellectual mind instead with the feelings, then such sentenses appear

Moon Fargis: let me quote this from the Pab page at the hint section : For starters, we can consider the following working hypothesis: all that appears is (in some sense yet to be explored) presented by Being. A way to work with this working hypothesis is to do the following homework: Appreciate the presence of appearance as a presentation by Being. In many different situations, take a moment: consider all that appears both inside your own thoughts and feelings as well as in the world outside of you, and simply appreciate their presence while considering them as given (in some sense; the sense may shift) by Being.

What is Being, What is Play as Being?

Vendy Walpole: just got a thought, how could we explain the Being best?

Stargate Tone: no matter if the being is 'different'...

Vendy Walpole: is there any close explanation of Being?

Moon Fargis: is there any reason to explain being ?

Bertram Jacobus: isn´t it clear by itself vendy ? being ? simply being ? without any mysticism ?

Vendy Walpole: well, I would love to hear how other see it?

Moon Fargis: :)

Moon Fargis: just be

Moon Fargis: and never stop to be

Bertram Jacobus: i hope, my expression satisfies you vendy (?) :-)

Vendy Walpole: thinking of it still :)

Vendy Walpole: so, when we play as being what happens?

Stargate Tone: star is curous why...

Vendy Walpole: why thinking star?

Stargate Tone: well...to star that expression means 'pretending'

Vendy Walpole: play as ?

Stargate Tone: that 'to play as being'

Bertram Jacobus: when we are successful in doing that i guess, we come to a form of "pureness" - may be comparable with "pure consciousness" ?

Moon Fargis: awareness

Stargate Tone: well...as to star to be is 'just to exist'...and there's no option to chooce after one has choocen to receive the present; own life...

Vendy Walpole: I read the log where was explained the difference betwen pretending and playing cause it was something I wanted to make clear to me

Stargate Tone: so...star cannot understand that anybody could play to be as the being...

Vendy Walpole: as i understood it, can't say, totaly, it is same as - go to being state

Vendy Walpole: or play

Vendy Walpole: anybody want to share own pratice?

Stargate Tone: which kind of practice you mean ?

Moon Fargis: 15 seconds waking up then napping again :)

Vendy Walpole: playing as being

Vendy Walpole: in your everyday life

--BELL--

Stargate Tone: well; I learned to play to be various kind of beings in SL using different kind of Avatars...

Stargate Tone: as to me it's to play to be for example the cat

Vendy Walpole: Aree there various kinds of beings Star really? I believe it is one being

Vendy Walpole: no matter what avatar we have, the being is same

Stargate Tone: well...I'm not a cat, but a human kind being

Vendy Walpole: yes, that is what i thought

Moon Fargis: *mews*

Moon Fargis purrrrrrsssssssss

Stargate Tone: **************

Vendy Walpole: no matter what is your profession or nationality, the being is still one

Vendy Walpole: same

Vendy Walpole: or I am wrong?

Stargate Tone: ah yes; but meant that we can play in SL

Moon Fargis: yes sure you cant be someone else

Vendy Walpole: you can believe you are someone else

Vendy Walpole: but your true be is same

Moon Fargis: thats possible yes

Stargate Tone: is there truly limitless space in Universe for anybody to exist ?

Bertram Jacobus: my impression is yes star

Stargate Tone: do U Bert know some philosophy to be as the philosophy of PaB ?

Bertram Jacobus: i think yes vendy

Moon Fargis: bert: more or less yes :)

Bertram Jacobus: i expected such a comment moon (!) ;o)

Calvino Rabeni: Star, part of it is to see everything that is, as natural, and see the being in it wothout trying to control it

Vendy Walpole: I am just thinking how these snowflakes help me stay in present moment

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2009.11.22 07:00 - Ungathered Together

http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/2009/11/2009.11.22_07%3a00_-_Ungathered_Together

Wol Euler: death certainly is less worrying than the thought of a decade of helpless decrepitude 

arabella Ella: that is so scarey Wol 

Wol Euler nods soberly. 

Adams Rubble: if we focus on the present we can accept anything 

arabella Ella: yes ... our being here and now 

Adams Rubble: Then it is what it is 

Adams Rubble: decrepitude is something we have, not what we are 

Adams Rubble: or may have (giggles) 

SophiaSharon Larnia: :) 

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2009.11.22 08:00 - detail and wider focus : Guardian Meeting

http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/2009/11/2009.11.22_08%3a00_-_detail_and_wider_focus

Our topic for today which Maxine suggested: the possible strain between the focus upon detail and the 'wider' focus

Maxine Walden: My own experience is that when I am trying to practice that my mind just 'feels' less focussed, sort of like letting me eyes go soft, as they say in yoga.

Maxine Walden: And this softer focus seems to allow more access to a wider range of experience. Very different for me from the more 'sharp-eyed' focus I need when I have to think of details. Quite strikingly different in my experience

Maxine Walden: The wider focus is inclusive, gathering in, as it were, while the sharper focus differentiates detail, notices differences perhaps

Eos Amaterasu: "soft eyes".... that rest, not "wandering eyes"

Eos Amaterasu: keeping eyes soft and "rest loose your mind, neither hold it nor permit it to wander" is itself a "practice"

Eos Amaterasu: not anti-detail.... though there is a spectrum

Eliza Madrigal: yes and a settling in/finding balance...

Eos Amaterasu: maybe also taking responsibility for guarding that softness, personally - makes rigid guidelines less necessary

Maxine Walden: agree, Eos

Eliza Madrigal: :)

Maxine Walden: 'guarding the softenss' suggests different 'textures' of experience co-residing

Storm Nordwind: It is a whole life skill, to be able to juggle such disparate textures. As with any skill, some people like structured rules and others much less so

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2009.11.22 13:00 - On Forgiveness

http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/2009/11/2009.11.22_13%3a00_-_On_Forgiveness

Comments by Maxine Walden

Mickorod Renard: is forgivness a good quality or is it just a load of bull to keep people tame?

Not being quite sure but sensing this as an important question to Mick, I try to check.  The following discussion reveals the many perspectives on forgiveness depending upon the state of mind of the one considering offering forgiveness

Maxine Walden: Mick, is that a serious question you are raising?

Mickorod Renard: yes

Mickorod Renard: isnt it appropriate?

Eliza Madrigal: forgiveness for others is a gift we give to free ourselves... not to be cliche' ...

Wol Euler nods to Bolo. Agreed, it's for our benefit, not theirs.

Mickorod Renard: so its selfish?

Wol Euler: it gives us closure, frees us from carrying anger and resentment

Eliza Madrigal: No, the self can't do it.. impossible for the self

Eliza Madrigal: maybe

Bolonath Crystal: not neccessarily so, mick

Bolonath Crystal: it is a psychological cleaning

Mick expresses the common concern of those caught in identifying with the resentment or pain stirred by the offending issue which is needing to be forgiven: forgiveness seems to be a betrayal of that pain or grief

Mickorod Renard: I do pretty well with it,,but I do think people take advantage of it,,and I am not a natural forgiver,,it takes lots to control whats inside me

Wol Euler: well, forgiveness doesn't mean that you forget :)

Mickorod Renard: I have truly forgiven heaps,,and forgot,,but some things I feel I was expected to forgive or ,,the alternative was terible

Wol Euler: ah, so yur question is about coercion, not about forgiveness...

Mickorod Renard: I wonder whether forgivness is perhaps a conspiracy to control the masses

Maxine Walden: Forgiveness 'or else', in some circumstances. Mick? Yes, does seem like coercion, as Wol suggests

Maxine Walden: Ah, what does that mean, Mick, conspiracy?

Eliza Madrigal: The best thing may be to be able to forgive and fully be present in that forgiveness, which implies honesty... maybe not 'fluffy'...something real

Eliza Madrigal: I'm half kidding, but I do think this is why we practice letting go of what we have (maybe problems, grudges, confusions, anger) to see what we are..

Wol Euler: forgiving someone for thier actions is NOT the same as condoning what they did.

Mickorod Renard: its very easy to forgive ones own children,,but can you see that you could forgive anything?

Maxine Walden: Perhaps Mick feels that he has to cover over, or quell angry, or aggressive elements and 'forgive' the other for having stirred up those angry aspects.

Maxine Walden: But if the angry aspects do not get some respectful recognition, but Mick, he might feel hoodwinked, or foolish about bypassing them in so-called 'forgiveness'

Mickorod Renard: dificult to say,,I just think that I have forgiven lots,,and wondered whether I am being duped

Maxine Walden: Wonder if we are trying to think about our acceptance of our own feelings, wrath, anger, resentment, etc... before 'forgiveness'

Eliza Madrigal: there is perhaps a difference between pretending to forgive and honestly trying and there is still something that seems to stick.. takes a while to keep letting go

Wol Euler: I think the disagreement is about one word :) Storm said that thte benefits of forgiveness acrue *solely* to the forgiver, Adams thinks the forgiven also benefits.

Storm Nordwind: Indeed Wol. The point is that the forgiver no longer has to face the consequences of a future action of retaliation or lesser grudge

Storm Nordwind: So the benefit is with the forgiver

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2009.11.22 19:00 - Neuro-linguistics Programming

http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/2009/11/2009.11.22_19%3a00_-_Neuro-linguistics_Programming

Eden Haiku: There is a point where I'm so immersed in what I do that I forget everything else and I become one with the public. It happened once very clearly and it was so exhilarating that time that I can still remember the taste of it. It is still an inspiration.

Eden Haiku: Obly 7% of communication goes through words according to LPN.

stevenaia Michinaga: LPN?

Eden Haiku: Neuro-linguistics programming,

stevenaia Michinaga: thx

Calvino Rabeni: NLP typically

Calvino Rabeni: If you want to look it up

Eden Haiku: 38% of the message goes through the tone of voice, 55% through body-language.

Eden Haiku: Yes, in French the acronym is different, I mixed up words, sorry.

Calvino Rabeni: Want link?

doug Sosa: I used to tell my student therapists to listen/watch their clients as if the therapist did not understand the language and had to rely on sight and body and tone.

Calvino Rabeni: http://nlpuniversitypress.com/index.html

Calvino Rabeni: doug are you an NLP trainer

doug Sosa: no way. i think they are fascists. sorry. the aim is manipulation, not 'truth"

Calvino Rabeni: Anyway, I like NLP as a theory, but have reservations in practice

Archmage Atlantis: To examine, to question ....this is who we are, I think

Calvino Rabeni: always

Calvino Rabeni: anyway Eden,sorry to give offense - but I think I stopped short of using a word like fascist

Eden Haiku: I'm just careful with words.

Calvino Rabeni: That is a caring way to be

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2009.11.23 01:00 - Nyet.

http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/2009/11/2009.11.23_01%3a00_-_Nyet.

There was no session at this time.

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2009.11.23 07:00 - Reporting

http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/2009/11/2009.11.23_07%3a00_-_Reporting

Deleting names of speakers when scribing:

Gaya Ethaniel: I on purpose delete names of the speaker ... hope that's ok with you. 

Eliza Madrigal: I think it is interesting to delete the speakers' names... maybe sometimes when we are reading we have filters based on our impressions of personalities? 

Eliza Madrigal: So I asked Gaya about highlighting: "We are seen, but unseen We are here but not here We are" 

Kallie Kira: There seems a sense of trust in not hurrying or adding... 

Gaya Ethaniel: http://playasbeing.wik.is/PaB_Scribe..._Gaya%27s_Pick) 

Pema Pera: there are perhaps two kinds of trust, related to our earlier discussion about relative vs. absolute 

Pema Pera: usually we trust based on something 

Pema Pera: some kind of guarantee 

Pema Pera: some ground 

Pema Pera: but what this mysterious "Being" points to is the option to trust on a kind of groundlessness 

Pema Pera: very mysterious :-) 

Pema Pera: unconditional trust 

Pema Pera: no conditions attached 

Gaya Ethaniel: Both are needed ... I don't think just one. 

Pema Pera: yes, sure! 

Eliza Madrigal nods..yes I just asked myself "Why do I trust this process here at PaB, so much at times... I can't base that on previous experiences... every day is new...so yes, that tension causes me to then surrender into a kind of larger framework which landed me here.... 

Pema Pera: Being is what gives the impression of things existing 

liza Madrigal: :) It seems a bit like the risotto Gaya and I talked about one day... time allows something to cook...us really... that we can experience something hm..in a satisfactory way... the meal is eaten, gone, but a satisfaction is revealed? 

Vendy Walpole: I'm wondering is there such state like unconditional trust? Even for it, we need some prior sort of evidence, feeling, intuition or something to tell us, yes, that is it! 

Pema Pera: it is not a state, a state is something relative . . . . 

Pema Pera: in general, better to report new experiences rather than trying to remember old ones 

YSBS:

Eliza Madrigal: Well, during this exploration I saw myself as very clumsy...very limited....unprepared....shy, but then a kind of sense of elegance was shining through that during Being Seeing... so nearly the opposite experience I'd say... that I was there in Being/Being in me... a sense of unfolding embeddedness.... more 'there' there 

Eliza Madrigal: like tragedies which have happened I can see... but without the frantic trapped feeling.... 

Eliza Madrigal: I can feel them and actually look rather than avoiding... and cry...and let it go.... 

Pema Pera: thank you, Eliza, the part about `shy' and `cry' is very touching; opening up to Being corresponds to that `softness' that Maxine talked about yesterday morning. 

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2009.11.23 13:00 - A Strangeness, Sometimes

http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/2009/11/2009.11.23_13%3a00_-_9-sec_Practice.__How's_that_going%3f

SophiaSharon Larnia: am I missing text, or are we all extraordinarily quiet today? 

Scathach Rhiadra: :) 

Wol Euler grins and nods 

Vendy Walpole: I must say this is an unusual but interesting experience for me 

Vendy Walpole: sitting with many people in silence 

Stim Morane: we can talk about the 9-sec practice instead, if some of you wish. 

Archmage Atlantis: That is a good thought Stim, please do 

Stim Morane: OK ... the main thing re that practice is to do it. 

Wol Euler: someone recently suggested a new time for doing it, between being interrupted and getting back into work. 

Stim Morane: the interstices, Wol? 

Wol Euler: exactly. Taking advantage of a naturally occuring break 

Stim Morane: one way to shed it (the momentum of a pressing task) is to take the task at hand more appreciatively, make IT be the 9-sec break 

Stim Morane: what has become familiar about the 9-sec practice? What is new? Any comments? 

Vendy Walpole: being returned to now, here, is rather familiar 

Stim Morane: uh huh 

Stim Morane: and "new"? Do you feel a strangeness, sometimes? 

Stim Morane: For instance, a sense of "I'm not 'me' ", "I'm not sure who I am" ... 

Vendy Walpole: The strange and new for me is being aware how much we all are connected in fact 

Stim Morane: great 

Vendy Walpole: do you have the same feeling? 

Stim Morane: yes, love it ... it 

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2009.11.23 19:00 - Gratitude and non-violence

http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/2009/11/2009.11.23_19%3a00_-_Gratitude_and_non-violence

Eden Haiku: So maybe we can focus on gratitude?

Eden Haiku: On the next 90 secs I mean?

Fox Monacular: gratitude is a good topic

Eos Amaterasu: William Blake: "gratitude is heaven itself"

Eden Haiku: ;-)

Eden Haiku: Maybe if we focus on one small thing we are greatful for today?

Eos Amaterasu: No need to go anywhere else, or change anything to anything

Eos Amaterasu: buddhists talk about being grateful to all sentient beings, who have been our mothers

Fox Monacular: today at work I was doing some brainless data manipulations and was listening to a Berkeley lecture on Bhagavat Gita and ethics of inaction in action

Fox Monacular: http://academicearth.org/lectures/gi...life-purpose-1

Eden Haiku: When the lecturer in this video you linked us to Fox, when he says that non-violent people do not stay away from conflict all the time.

Eos Amaterasu: not avoidance

Fox Monacular: just like in Bhagavat Gita

Eden Haiku: Yes, not avoidance.

Fox Monacular: Arjuna still has to go into battle

Calvino Rabeni: I like in the story, how deeply felt was Arjuna's dilemma proposed to krishna

Eos Amaterasu: How would you state that, Calvino?

Fox Monacular: but his actions are not carried out because of his personal enmity, but rather non attached to result, because it's his dharma

Calvino Rabeni: He presented great anguish openly that he could be called to slay members of his clan.

Eos Amaterasu: yes, a harrowing story....

Calvino Rabeni: He was innocent about it

Eos Amaterasu: That story contains one of the heaviest lines in all of literature:

Fox Monacular: right, non doing in doing

Fox Monacular: which line, Eos?

Eos Amaterasu: "when one prefers one's own children to those of another, then war is not far away"

Fox Monacular: yes

Fox Monacular: tough one

Calvino Rabeni: And they took a long time to build it up

Eden Haiku: It is like Christ saying; I did not come to bring peace amongst you but the sword.

Calvino Rabeni: It was not taken lightly

Eos Amaterasu: so being not afraid to meet the edge of something

Eden Haiku: Power of Kali.

Eos Amaterasu: even something like the fearsome reality of karma

Calvino Rabeni: Fierceness, discriminating will

Eden Haiku: Shiva dancing destruction of the world.

Eos Amaterasu: but at the same time, without aggression

Calvino Rabeni: Wasn't there a quote from Stim about wrath?

Fox Monacular: :)

Eos Amaterasu: satyagraha : truth force

Eos Amaterasu: much better word than non-violence

Eos Amaterasu: it's positive: meet the situation

Eos Amaterasu: I think we could try that in the next 90 secs :-)

Calvino Rabeni: Are there emotions or energies you wouldn't want to explore in this group?

Eos Amaterasu: (a trick question :-)

Fox Monacular: I'm not sure:)

Calvino Rabeni: Something to look at.

Eos Amaterasu: that's another great one for the 90 secs!

Eden Haiku: I like satyagraha as a topic.

Calvino Rabeni: Depends on HOW it is done, i suppose

Calvino Rabeni: Please describe it - so I will have a handle on it.

Eos Amaterasu: how to approach something without destroying it?

Eos Amaterasu: how to meet something without anger

Calvino Rabeni: Things happen very rapidly when one is out in public

Calvino Rabeni: surrounded by many people

Eos Amaterasu: More willingness to more energetically be there, in the space of perceptions, in just open space

Calvino Rabeni: I was noticing the way I would meet people through gaze

Calvino Rabeni: In a public place. In a glance. Almost no time for thinking thoughts.

Calvino Rabeni: And yet.. There wass a quality of satyagraha in the conection

Calvino Rabeni: in a way that surprised me

Calvino Rabeni: which was, I felt that to gaze but not be present, was to destroy something that needed to be

Calvino Rabeni: so in otherwards, not-doing in the wayh I am used to it, would have been doing

Calvino Rabeni: I mean, passivity

Calvino Rabeni: Does this make sense?

Eos Amaterasu: so satyagraha was to gaze and to be present?

Calvino Rabeni: Yes

Calvino Rabeni: It reversed my usual definition of what is doing.

Eos Amaterasu: I think there is an energy and a force required to be present

Eos Amaterasu: and which also seems to come from the presence

Calvino Rabeni: it feels that way surely

Calvino Rabeni: but a kind of energy passes between people

Calvino Rabeni: in a case like that.

Fox Monacular: bye everyone

Eos Amaterasu: Gratitude!

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2009.11.24 01:00 - Learning to make the perfect cup of tea

http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/2009/11/2009.11.24_01%3a00_-_Learning_to_make_the_perfect_cup_of_tea

Gaya Ethaniel: I think if one is open, right opportunities appear at right time :)

Calvino Rabeni: This happens, if I wait long enough :)

Gaya Ethaniel: :) I don't think being open means just waiting.

Gaya Ethaniel: I think we know when we see it ... not sure if we can accurately expect what sort.

Gaya Ethaniel: Often from unexpected quarters ... I guess what I mean is there is a balance between being active yet not obscuring ... waiting yet not stationary.

Calvino Rabeni: THe hole in the center of the wheel is what makes it useful, not the spokes

Wester Kiranov: I would think you need both

Calvino Rabeni: Yes, it is important to master a skill.

Gaya Ethaniel: Yes cross germinating :)

Calvino Rabeni: But when you master one, truly, you master many.

Calvino Rabeni: Right.

Calvino Rabeni: there is a saying - Show me a man who can make a perfect cup of tea, and I will show you a man who can do anything.

Gaya Ethaniel: :)

Wester Kiranov: I think that's a good idea - master one thing and let the rest flow from that.

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2009.11.24 07:00 - Do you want Fries with your Reality

http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/2009/11/2009.11.24_07%3a00_-_Do_you_want_Fries_with_your_Reality

How about exploring "How do you 'do' who you are". 

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2009.11.24 13:00 - A Confabulous Session

http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/2009/11/2009.11.24_13%3a00_-_A_Confabulous_Session

Wol Euler: that was a really good discussion on Sunday, such a pity you had to leave early.

Mickorod Renard: who me?

Wol Euler: mmhmm, we were talking about forgiveness

Mickorod Renard: oh yes

Mickorod Renard: you know, I hope nobody takes me too serious,,I do play the devils advocate a bit

Wol Euler raises an eyebrow

Mickorod Renard: just to stimulate lialog

Mickorod Renard: diolog

Calvino Rabeni: BUt on that topic, I've been interested in confabulation theory

Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.

Mickorod Renard: whats that please?

Wol Euler: http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/...ulation_theory

Qt Core: i'm thinking about the connections of this motion-based intelligence and the birth of sense apparatuses

Calvino Rabeni: Introspection, yes, observing having an experience, that sensation and movement are completely inseparable

Calvino Rabeni: yet in theory our classic models separate them completely

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2009.11.24 19:00 - Magnetic movement minute capture

http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/2009/11/2009.11.24_19%3a00_-_Magnetic_movement_minute_capture

 

Eos Amaterasu: Hello, I wasn't really here

Eden Haiku: ;-)

Eos Amaterasu: I got seduced by To Ramona (Bob Dylan, Sinéad Lohan)

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nHwILs8bdo)

Your magnetic movements 

Still capture the minutes I'm in.

 

Eos Amaterasu: How's that for an approach to the 90 secs?

Eden Haiku: I kept thinking about the magnetic movements of this Kashmiri man I met in India a few years ago...

Calvino Rabeni: I think Eden's question has more eros in it.

Eos Amaterasu: Eden, do you have a haiku for 90 seconds?

Eden Haiku: Sure: let me remember one...

Eden Haiku: 

Pixels sitting still 

Our names bright over our heads 

We share our visions

--BELL--

Eos Amaterasu: Wow, Eden, I went into that 90 seconds with a broad smile

Eos Amaterasu: wide angle vision

Eos Amaterasu: that's not afraid of any detail

Eos Amaterasu: the vision is not separate from the detail

Calvino Rabeni: it could wrap around behind you and scoop you up

Eden Haiku: Greta! Listening Calvino

Eos Amaterasu: yes, so wide-angle it precedes you

Eos Amaterasu: you seeing being seeing

Eden Haiku: 

Mind clogged by my mess

I decide to clear my desk

And go for a walk

 

Eos Amaterasu imagines Eden clearing her desk :-)

Eos Amaterasu: every detail is limitless phenomenality

Eos Amaterasu: is wide-angly seeing

Calvino Rabeni: I made an animation - now I am no longer the complete newbie

Eos Amaterasu: Cool!

Eden Haiku: Can you show it to us Calvino?

Calvino Rabeni: SUre, look

Calvino Rabeni: _/|\_

Eden Haiku: Beautiful Namasté! Wow!

 

Eos Amaterasu: I think a bowing animation would be apropos sometimes

Eden Haiku: _/!\_

Eden Haiku: I have one I think...Bowing the head...

Eos Amaterasu: like as a way to enter and leave a PaB circle if you didn't want a flurry of hi/byes

Eos Amaterasu: deeep agreement :-)

Eden Haiku: How abou this Eos...

Eos Amaterasu: let bow to the next moment

Eos Amaterasu: interesting quality of awareness to bowing

Eden Haiku: So we are back to magnetic movements aren't we?

Eos Amaterasu: aware and acknowledging and letting be

Eos Amaterasu: heh heh