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    Widget Whiteberry: in my most vulnerable moments, negative triggers have the tinge of betrayal, and I think "how did I let that get by me"?
    Widget Whiteberry: well yes, a negative trigger, launched by another
    genesis Zhangsun: interesting how quickly we can go from "something is happening" to "something negative is happening" to "I am to blame for this negativity" like in a flash
    Widget Whiteberry: or 'this negativity is about me*"
    genesis Zhangsun: or "this negativity says something about who I am"
    Pema Pera: well, have you been playing a bit with the notion of "dropping what you have to see what you are"? That may be a fun topic!
    Widget Whiteberry: I have not!
    Pema Pera: have you tried the 9 seconds breaks in general?
    Widget Whiteberry: yes
    Widget Whiteberry: frequently
    Pema Pera: how did that go?
    Pema Pera: or how does that go?
    Widget Whiteberry: ☆smiles☆
    Widget Whiteberry: for me, they are a moment to center myself
    Widget Whiteberry: and let go of whatever is occupying my attention
    Pema Pera: ah, you see, a shift from what you have to what you are -- you've secretly been doing it already :-)
    Widget Whiteberry: lol
    Widget Whiteberry: how clever I am!
    Gaya Ethaniel: Calvino Rabeni: there is a saying - Show me a man who can make a perfect cup of tea, and I will show you a man who can do anything.
    Wol Euler laughs.
    Wol Euler: so true.
    Archmage Atlantis: What does that saying mean to you. Gaya?
    Gaya Ethaniel: One learns a particular thing that is congenial to do, enriching perhaps then ... s/he can learn to do other thing just equally well without going through typical 'learning' processes ... I think that's what I saw in this.
    Wol Euler nods. It's about attention and ... hmmmm ... recognition of the worth of doing things well
    Archmage Atlantis: Ah, that is similar, but not the same as the meaning I heard
    Wol Euler: which some people don'T recognize.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Please say more?
    Wol Euler: IMHO )
    Gaya Ethaniel: What is the meaning for you then Arch?
    Archmage Atlantis: Making a perfect cup of tea, a metaphor, is about learning how tea and the rituals around it, are in existence in a particular culture
    Archmage Atlantis: Is there a "right" way to make tea?........I grew up on tea as brewed and prepared in the SE US
    Gaya Ethaniel: It's relative?
    Gaya Ethaniel: I think ...
    Wol Euler: mmhmm, sure is. The tea ceremony is one way
    Wol Euler: indian roadside chai is another
    Gaya Ethaniel: An ideal is quite subjective :)
    Eden Haiku: But is there matter?/ Does the vast universe ends?/And does it matter?/
    Synergy Watanabe: our universe could be an atom on another microbe
    Vendy Walpole: yes, i have that thought too
    Synergy Watanabe: our conscious mind will never know
    Synergy Watanabe: we can only speculate
    Vendy Walpole: we can experience Being
    Eden Haiku: I was reading "A Course in Miracles " then. A big influence...I think it starts with: This is a space of miracles...
    Pema Pera: I like the opening lines of that book: Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists.
    Archmage Atlantis: One of my favorite quotes is from the theologian Paul Tillich
    Archmage Atlantis: The courage to be is to accept oneself, in spite of being unacceptable
    Calvino Rabeni: Radical acceptance is a good pre-requisite for change.
     Calvino Rabeni: I have a dogma allergy, and luckily this group feels pretty clear
    (Corvi says..Bless you, Calvino.  Me too.)
    Bolonath Crystal: do you think there is a big difference between happiness and suffering? or is it maybe the same, only seen under a different aspect?
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