The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth. Hopefully anyone reading this will not be as confused by it all as I was.
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Lil
Lila Darkmatter: Hello
Agatha Macbeth: Look like your on the way to a dance or something
Agatha Macbeth: And here's Wollie
Lila Darkmatter: was trying to combine two outfits
Lila Darkmatter: Hi Wol
Wol Euler: evening all!
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Wol Euler: Aggers' first Sunday session :=
Agatha Macbeth: It is indeed
Lila Darkmatter: :::party time:::
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: Not yet :p
Lila Darkmatter: I'm not able to come at this time very often
Wol Euler: so, what do you hve planned for your Sunday sessions?
Lila Darkmatter listens
Agatha Macbeth: Not a lot
Lila Darkmatter: Hi Druth
Agatha Macbeth: See what transpires eh
druth Vlodovic: hey
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Druthy
Agatha Macbeth: Will be easy to shoot off to Berti on the hour anyway
Wol Euler nods.
Lila Darkmatter: nice timing, yes
Wol Euler: since you'll be on anyway
Agatha Macbeth: But I'll be gald when the time's back to normal
Wol Euler: oh I should send him the usual SMS
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh, wake him up
Agatha Macbeth: How's Sruth
Agatha Macbeth: Or Druth even?
druth Vlodovic: oh her
druth Vlodovic: doing ok
Agatha Macbeth: Good to hear
druth Vlodovic: got to see a bunch of plays this weekend
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
druth Vlodovic: ranging fromhugely depressing to various stylesof comedy
Agatha Macbeth: Hugely depressing sounds good
Lila Darkmatter: ah , neat... anything we'd recognize?
Wol Euler: heheheh
Wol Euler: hello druth
Lila Darkmatter: :::waits for Godot:::
Lila Darkmatter: ;-)
druth Vlodovic: maybe,it was an inter-school competition at the high school level
Agatha Macbeth: Think he left
druth Vlodovic: hey wol
Agatha Macbeth: Who won?
druth Vlodovic: the zombies and a british-style comedy about a guy getting home two hours early to find that his perfect life is really a mess on off-hours
Wol Euler: heheheeh
Wol Euler: the latter sounds intriguing
Agatha Macbeth: And true
Lila Darkmatter: :)
Agatha Macbeth wonders why Wol's face looks grey
druth Vlodovic: in the end everyone reverts to what the father thought was "normal"and he decided to pretend it was real
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like a wise bloke
druth Vlodovic: :)
Lila Darkmatter: Mr Banks
druth Vlodovic: pretty much
Wol Euler offers to clean Aggers' glasses.
Agatha Macbeth: Robin?
Lila Darkmatter: from Mary Poppins
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Agatha Macbeth: Which one was he then?
Wol Euler: Jane and Michael Banks :) Mr. Banks is the father
Lila Darkmatter: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ahh yes
Okay, now the confusion begins...
druth Vlodovic: the father was Mr Banks but the mother slept around,the daughter was a pyromaniac, the son a drunk and the grandmother a drug addict
Agatha Macbeth: The chubby faced bloke whose name I never remember
Wol Euler: fancy me still knowing that, 45 years later
Lila Darkmatter: who has, in the beginning, a very well ordered universe
Agatha Macbeth: What- in Mary Poppins??
--BELL--1315
Agatha Macbeth: Don't remember that bit
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Steve
druth Vlodovic: "home at six" I was talking about :)
Wol Euler: hello stevie
stevenaia Michinaga: waves
druth Vlodovic: hey steve
Agatha Macbeth: Oh right
druth Vlodovic: has anyone seen "saving Mr Banks"?
Wol Euler: don'T know it
stevenaia Michinaga: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Was gonna say, never knew Dick van Dyke was a pyromaniac
By now I am wondering what the hell I put in my tea
Lila Darkmatter: yes...went with my son
druth Vlodovic: you never know...
druth Vlodovic: any good?
stevenaia Michinaga: really, about Dick van Dyke?
Lila Darkmatter: better for video I think... yes nice film and important in its way
Lila Darkmatter: Hi Stevie
Agatha Macbeth: I'm as clueless as you Steve
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Sanji
Santoshima Resident: 's current display-name is "San".
Lila Darkmatter: Hi San
Wol Euler: hello san
stevenaia Michinaga: hi San
Santoshima Resident: greetings
druth Vlodovic: the pyro was in a play I saw on the weekend,unconnected to dick van dyke
druth Vlodovic: hey san
Lila Darkmatter: game of telephone :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, I'm getting confused again
druth Vlodovic: talking mary poppins
Agatha Macbeth: It's Wol's fault
stevenaia Michinaga: will check his Wiki Page, they know all
druth Vlodovic: yes, I blame Wol
Agatha Macbeth: How are you San?
Wol Euler: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2140373/
Lila Darkmatter: oh, not Wol :)
Santoshima Resident: ok thanks
Wol Euler: (saving Mr. Banks)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Agatha Macbeth: There to seem to be a lot of them
Lila Darkmatter: nice film, bit bogged down in flashbacks... have seen Mary Poppins musical play too... wonderful scene of dancing on ceiling that was hard to pull off
Lila Darkmatter: not much can match life performance eh?
Lila Darkmatter: live* lol
Agatha Macbeth: Dancing on the ceiling?
Lila Darkmatter: yes, Bert dances on the ceiling..was as wonderful a moment as seeing Sandy Duncan fly into the audience as Peter Pan
Lila Darkmatter: ^.^
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
Now I'm completely lost
Agatha Macbeth ponders Bert dancing on the ceiling
Agatha Macbeth: What were they actually saving him from? (Mr Banks, not Bert)
All seems to have gone quiet
Agatha Macbeth wonders if she crashed
druth Vlodovic: yes, you're all alone here
Agatha Macbeth: Thought so
Lila Darkmatter: naturally
stevenaia Michinaga: speaking of crashes, I appear as a cloud to me, can you see me?
Lila Darkmatter: I see you
Agatha Macbeth: I see you perfectly Steve
Santoshima Resident: in geisha garb
druth Vlodovic: you make a lovely cloud
Agatha Macbeth: But Wollie's face is still grey
stevenaia Michinaga: so much for self image
Wol Euler: you look fine to me
druth Vlodovic: I'm just guessing that they seek to save Mr Banks from mundanity
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe Sunday syndrome
druth Vlodovic: though I always envied him a bit
stevenaia Michinaga: best to judge yourself by how others see you... or not at all
Wol Euler smiles.
Lila Darkmatter: envied?
druth Vlodovic: full of the success of proud contentment
Lila Darkmatter: "how pleasant is the life I lead"
Wol Euler: you know, I realize that I cannot remember him at all. Neither of the parents actually
Agatha Macbeth: And penguins
druth Vlodovic: a nice jumping off point for anything else you wish to do
druth Vlodovic: and a solid rock on which to stand when you don't feel like jumping
Wol Euler nods.
Lila Darkmatter: but based on ignoring what's going on from others' views in a way
druth Vlodovic: not sure why so many people are morally opposed to people holding such a position
druth Vlodovic: maybe
Wol Euler: althought the L'wren Scott story casts a different light on other people's great lives
Lila Darkmatter: in M. Poppins, the wife spends all day on women's causes (ignoring kids) but then goes back into submission when he arrives
druth Vlodovic: he knew of his wife's activisim, disapproved but didn't actively seek to stamp it out
Agatha Macbeth: Probably something to do with the time it was set in
Lila Darkmatter: hm... yes Wol
--BELL--1345
druth Vlodovic: as for the kids they had a secure homelife, which is likely what gave them the confidence to get in to as much trouble as they did
Agatha Macbeth: More than likely
Lila Darkmatter: yes, but felt disconnected from him
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: Funny the only bit I seem to remember about now is the 'feed the birds' bit
druth Vlodovic: "Feed the birds and what do you get? Fat birds!"
Wol Euler: *rimshot*
Agatha Macbeth: And supercalifragilisticexpealidocious
druth Vlodovic: now we have a purpose for the theatre, screening mary poppins
Lila Darkmatter: I hated that song as a child then as an adult wept at its beauty (feed the birds)
Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
Agatha Macbeth: Brucie! :)
druth Vlodovic: oh?
Lila Darkmatter: had a record and would always skip that
Lila Darkmatter: Hi Bruce :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yes me too
Wol Euler nods.
druth Vlodovic: why is that lila?
Bruce Mowbray: Hello!
Wol Euler: it's a surprisingly sad song actually
Wol Euler: hello bruce
Lila Darkmatter: maturity.. didn't see the beauty of the old woman
Bruce Mowbray: I'm still an orange cloud (to myself).
Agatha Macbeth: Or the banker who wanted him to invest it instead
Lila Darkmatter: stevie too, is unseen by herself today
stevenaia Michinaga: me too Bruce, but you look ok to me
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: We must dclare an orange cloud day
druth Vlodovic: ah, I guess, it would be a sparse life, selling birdseed
Agatha Macbeth: Oh Brucie looks fine to moi
Bruce Mowbray: I can see stevie, and also myself, but now am curious about this "old woman"
Wol Euler pastes a Postit to the screen on top of her avatar, in solidarity
druth Vlodovic: does that make it sad though?
Lila Darkmatter: heheheh Wol!
druth Vlodovic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHrRxQVUFN4
Lila Darkmatter: she is one conscience of the film
druth Vlodovic: warning: potential sadness
Brucie now complicates matters further by introducing yet another element
Bruce Mowbray: Ah yes, feeding the birds . . . but I thought you might be speaking of the old woman in ZORBA the Greek.
Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
Bruce Mowbray: "Bouboulina" as Zorba called her.
Agatha Macbeth: Not baboushka
Bruce Mowbray: nope, bouboulina.
Agatha Macbeth: Ok
Bruce Mowbray: I've been singing about her for 50 years.
druth Vlodovic: it is sung sadly, but since I'm accustomed to Ozzy and co, who tend to have a disconnect between sound and message....
Bruce Mowbray: (Since ZORBA first came out in the movies in 1964).
Agatha Macbeth: Wow, she must have made quite an impression on you
Bruce Mowbray: The movie did, yes.
Bruce Mowbray: I have been watching it again, this weekend.
Agatha Macbeth: Ah the two are almost contemporary then
Agatha Macbeth: Coincidence
Bruce Mowbray: Divine plan!
Santoshima Resident: destiny
Lila Darkmatter smiles
Agatha Macbeth: Serendipity
Agatha Macbeth: Synchronicity
Bruce Mowbray: There you go! Synchronicity!
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Wol Euler: interesting, half the commenters agreed with Lila: hated it as a kid, love it now
druth Vlodovic: I'm going to ignore that we have entirely changed topic :) the old woman in mary poppins can be said to be about enjoying present reality, ie life
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Zon
Wol Euler: hello zon
Lila Darkmatter: ah, hadn't seen that Wol...validating actually :)
Zon Kwan: heya
Santoshima Resident: hello Zon
Bruce Mowbray: (also getting into the synchronicity with my Gnosis studies, lately....) but on to the old woman of YOUR discussion - before my arrival to make such a fuss about everything.
Lila Darkmatter: Hi Zon :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yes Druthy agreed
Agatha Macbeth: Ah gnosis
Lila Darkmatter: we ended up in Mary Poppins because Druth went to see live plays ... not a theme session ^.^
Bruce Mowbray: Loved Mary Poppins.... btw.
Agatha Macbeth: Guess a theme session on MP works
druth Vlodovic: topic drift is a personal annoyance, not a big deal for everyone
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: And ZTG too
Bruce Mowbray: for sure, it works!
Bruce Mowbray: AND ZORBA! YES!
Agatha Macbeth: I just find it somewhat confusing, not annoying
Bruce Mowbray: How is that, aggers?
Lila Darkmatter nods... one thing I noticed in Saving Mr Banks is that PL Travers was into Gurdjeiff.. but that's an aside
Agatha Macbeth: Cos it confuses me :p
Lila Darkmatter: hehe
Agatha Macbeth: Oh really?
Bruce Mowbray: good answer.
Lila Darkmatter: yup
Agatha Macbeth: He didn't know the fourth way?
Lila Darkmatter: just a book on the desk in one of the beginning scenes.. and *she* who wrote Mary Poppins
Agatha Macbeth: Remind me who that was Lil?
Lila Darkmatter: haha.. I have to step away for a few minutes, brb
druth Vlodovic: hb lila
Bruce Mowbray: It seems no matter what the orthodox in power folks do, the "perennial philosophy" finds its own way....
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, what a cop out! :(
Bruce Mowbray: Stepping away is appropriate for a lady, aggers.
Agatha Macbeth: Yes Brucie, true
Santoshima Resident: P. L. Travers
Bruce Mowbray: Didn't you know that?
Actually, no I didn't. Anyway, now Druth sends us off on yet another tangent
druth Vlodovic: what is the perennial philosophy?
Wol Euler: right
Bruce Mowbray: kk, enough of moi.
Agatha Macbeth: Ah thanks San
Santoshima Resident: < detests m poppins
druth Vlodovic: GASP!
druth Vlodovic: blasphemy!
Agatha Macbeth: She flies well
Wol Euler: not yet, bruce, please explain perennial philosophy etc
Bruce Mowbray: Aldous Huxley wrote a book by that title, but I think it was Leibnitz who coined the phrase.
Agatha Macbeth: I know perennial flowers
Agatha Macbeth: Oh him
--BELL--1345
Bruce Mowbray: Perennial philosophy is the basis of all mystical spirituality...
Bruce Mowbray: including Buddhism....
Bruce Mowbray: ooops, sry.
Wol Euler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_philosophy
Bruce Mowbray: ty!
Wol Euler: "a perspective within the philosophy of religion which views each of the world’s religious traditions as sharing a single, universal truth on which the foundation of all religious knowledge and doctrine has grown."
Agatha Macbeth: Shhh
druth Vlodovic: "don't be a shit"
Agatha Macbeth: Must ask Rhiannon about that one when i next see her
Santoshima Resident: "dbas" in reference to ... what?
Bruce Mowbray: guess I was wrong about Leibnitz. MUCH earlier than he.
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Santoshima Resident: ^ @ druth
Bruce Mowbray: The term philosophia perennis was first used by Agostino Steuco (1497–1548),[1] drawing on the neo-Platonic philosophy of Marsilio Ficino (1433–1499) and Giovanni Pico della Mirandola (1463–94).
druth Vlodovic: the problem is nobody wants to agree on the single, universal truth,or on it's proper source
Agatha Macbeth: Aha, that makes more sense
Agatha Macbeth: Renaissance stuff
Bruce Mowbray: It is actually NOT a "truth."
Bruce Mowbray: It is an experience.
druth Vlodovic: oh?
Bruce Mowbray: Yes.
Bruce Mowbray: The perennial philosophy is not a philosophy at all.
Wol Euler: I'm guessing that Druth meant "Don't be a shit" as the perennial philosophy, akin to "do unto others etc"
Bruce Mowbray: It is an interior, intimate, and intuitive experience.
Agatha Macbeth: Still works tho
Bruce Mowbray: but one that apparently is shared among folks of all times and cujltures.
druth Vlodovic: oh, right, please don't think it was applied to anything specific here
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Santoshima Resident: right, ironic, got it
Bruce Mowbray makes note not to be a shit.
Agatha Macbeth: A sound philosophy if you ask me
Agatha Macbeth: Even if it isn't a philosophy
druth Vlodovic: can you describe or define this experience bruce?
Wol Euler: that is also known as Wheaton's Law, formulated by Wil Wheaton
Zon Kwan: is there any sounder?
Wol Euler listens.
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Agatha Macbeth listens too
Bruce Mowbray: I could explain my own experience, but what value would that be?
Zon Kwan: much
Bruce Mowbray: It could not reproduce the experience for you,
druth Vlodovic: I'd be entertained? 8)
Zon Kwan: yes
Bruce Mowbray: so I'd suggest that you go forth and "do likewise."
Agatha Macbeth: I always like to hear your experiences Brucie
Bruce Mowbray: In other words,
Lila Darkmatter: back.. listening to catch up
Bruce Mowbray: find your own light, as the Buddha uttered in his last breath.
Agatha Macbeth: Always let your conscience be your guide
Bruce Mowbray: My "experience" is that - basically -- it is ALL divine.
Bruce Mowbray: And every thing is a "Gate."
Bruce Mowbray: There.
Bruce Mowbray: Satisfied?
Zon Kwan: be a light unto yourself, but listen to those who have something interesting to say
druth Vlodovic: ty :)
Agatha Macbeth: Great!
Bruce Mowbray: yw!
Agatha Macbeth: Thanks Brucie
Bruce Mowbray: The pigeons are divine.
Bruce Mowbray: The old lady on the steps is divine.
Agatha Macbeth: That's why we feed them
Bruce Mowbray: St Pauls Cathedral is divine
Bruce Mowbray: Mary Poppins is divine.
Bruce Mowbray: her umbrella is divine.
Zon Kwan: i am divine
Bruce Mowbray: (need I continue?)
Zon Kwan: Bruce is divine
Santoshima Resident: until you are the one on the steps feeding crumbs to that cloud of pigeons overhead, wishing you had m poppins umbrella
Agatha Macbeth: De fruit of de vine
Zon Kwan: shit is divine
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, Zon, you are divine.
druth Vlodovic: lol
Lila Darkmatter: divination into everything, Bruce?
Bruce Mowbray: no, I am being quite serious.
Bruce Mowbray: Zon is divine.
Zon Kwan: nods
Bruce Mowbray: He's just not the ONLY one who is!
Zon Kwan: nods
Bruce Mowbray: also nods.
Wol Euler: "it's all god"
Zon Kwan: even devil
druth Vlodovic: I think I get some of what you mean,each thing and situation is itself,worthy of attention and an opening into new ways of life, and oldways
Agatha Macbeth groks it
Bruce Mowbray: For those of us subscribing to the Perennial Philosophy, it is, yes, Wol.
Agatha Macbeth: Well said Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: thank you ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Bruce Mowbray: Gosh, I actually felt like I was levitating there for a moment.
Wol Euler: ((bertie in four minutes))
Bruce Mowbray: oh well, back to earth.
Bruce Mowbray: Berti in three minutes!
druth Vlodovic: too full of the divine
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, time for Bert
Bruce Mowbray: nods.,
Bruce Mowbray: I look forward to Bert all week.
Agatha Macbeth: Well this was a divine session, thank you all
Lila Darkmatter: thanks Aggers and everyone
Bruce Mowbray: Indeed, it was. THANKS, all you divine beings!
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Lila Darkmatter: am not heading to Bertie today.... start up disk space issue bothering computer again
druth Vlodovic: off berting I guess :)
Bruce Mowbray: I'm off to Berti's mountain.
Lila Darkmatter: but please send hugs
Wol Euler: awwww
Santoshima Resident: bb bruce, et al
Wol Euler: bye lila, take care
Agatha Macbeth: OK Lil, take care
druth Vlodovic: have to see if I can pull the duration,it been a while
Wol Euler: goodnight all (or see you at the meditaiton)
Lila Darkmatter: bye everyone <3 thanks
druth Vlodovic: have fun all
Agatha Macbeth: Byee ♥
Zon Kwan: bye
Santoshima Resident: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=755227504522313 Wild love
--BELL--1400
Santoshima Resident: couldn't fit it in, but offer it now
Zon Kwan: opens slow
Santoshima Resident: yeah
Zon Kwan: Africa?
Santoshima Resident: yes, south africa
Santoshima Resident: near Pretoria
Zon Kwan: lions
Santoshima Resident: & hyenas
Santoshima Resident: and a unique relationship
Santoshima Resident: loss of habitat for them
Zon Kwan: smiles
Zon Kwan: hyenas yes
Zon Kwan: bye San
Santoshima Resident: bye zon
Santoshima Resident: bye zon