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    The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth. Hopefully anyone reading this will not be as confused by it all as I was.

     

    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Lil
    Lila Darkmatter: Hello
    Agatha Macbeth: Look like your on the way to a dance or something
    Agatha Macbeth: And here's Wollie
    Lila Darkmatter: was trying to combine two outfits
    Lila Darkmatter: Hi Wol
    Wol Euler: evening all!
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Wol Euler: Aggers' first Sunday session :=
    Agatha Macbeth: It is indeed
    Lila Darkmatter: :::party time:::
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Agatha Macbeth: Not yet :p
    Lila Darkmatter: I'm not able to come at this time very often
    Wol Euler: so, what do you hve planned for your Sunday sessions?
    Lila Darkmatter listens
    Agatha Macbeth: Not a lot
    Lila Darkmatter: Hi Druth
    Agatha Macbeth: See what transpires eh
    druth Vlodovic: hey
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Druthy
    Agatha Macbeth: Will be easy to shoot off to Berti on the hour anyway
    Wol Euler nods.
    Lila Darkmatter: nice timing, yes
    Wol Euler: since you'll be on anyway
    Agatha Macbeth: But I'll be gald when the time's back to normal
    Wol Euler: oh I should send him the usual SMS
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeh, wake him up
    Agatha Macbeth: How's Sruth
    Agatha Macbeth: Or Druth even?
    druth Vlodovic: oh her
    druth Vlodovic: doing ok
    Agatha Macbeth: Good to hear
    druth Vlodovic: got to see a bunch of plays this weekend
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow
    druth Vlodovic: ranging fromhugely depressing to various stylesof comedy
    Agatha Macbeth: Hugely depressing sounds good
    Lila Darkmatter: ah , neat... anything we'd recognize?
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Wol Euler: hello druth
    Lila Darkmatter: :::waits for Godot:::
    Lila Darkmatter: ;-)
    druth Vlodovic: maybe,it was an inter-school competition at the high school level
    Agatha Macbeth: Think he left
    druth Vlodovic: hey wol
    Agatha Macbeth: Who won?
    druth Vlodovic: the zombies and a british-style comedy about a guy getting home two hours early to find that his perfect life is really a mess on off-hours
    Wol Euler: heheheeh
    Wol Euler: the latter sounds intriguing
    Agatha Macbeth: And true
    Lila Darkmatter: :)
    Agatha Macbeth wonders why Wol's face looks grey
    druth Vlodovic: in the end everyone reverts to what the father thought was "normal"and he decided to pretend it was real
    Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like a wise bloke
    druth Vlodovic: :)
    Lila Darkmatter: Mr Banks
    druth Vlodovic: pretty much
    Wol Euler offers to clean Aggers' glasses.
    Agatha Macbeth: Robin?
    Lila Darkmatter: from Mary Poppins
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Agatha Macbeth: Which one was he then?
    Wol Euler: Jane and Michael Banks :) Mr. Banks is the father
    Lila Darkmatter: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ahh yes

    Okay, now the confusion begins...

    druth Vlodovic: the father was Mr Banks but the mother slept around,the daughter was a pyromaniac, the son a drunk and the grandmother a drug addict
    Agatha Macbeth: The chubby faced bloke whose name I never remember
    Wol Euler: fancy me still knowing that, 45 years later
    Lila Darkmatter: who has, in the beginning, a very well ordered universe
    Agatha Macbeth: What- in Mary Poppins??
    --BELL--1315
    Agatha Macbeth: Don't remember that bit
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Steve
    druth Vlodovic: "home at six" I was talking about :)
    Wol Euler: hello stevie
    stevenaia Michinaga: waves
    druth Vlodovic: hey steve
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh right
    druth Vlodovic: has anyone seen "saving Mr Banks"?
    Wol Euler: don'T know it
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Was gonna say, never knew Dick van Dyke was a pyromaniac

    By now I am wondering what the hell I put in my tea

    Lila Darkmatter: yes...went with my son
    druth Vlodovic: you never know...
    druth Vlodovic: any good?
    stevenaia Michinaga: really, about Dick van Dyke?
    Lila Darkmatter: better for video I think... yes nice film and important in its way
    Lila Darkmatter: Hi Stevie
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm as clueless as you Steve
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Sanji
    Santoshima Resident: 's current display-name is "San".
    Lila Darkmatter: Hi San
    Wol Euler: hello san
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi San
    Santoshima Resident: greetings
    druth Vlodovic: the pyro was in a play I saw on the weekend,unconnected to dick van dyke
    druth Vlodovic: hey san
    Lila Darkmatter: game of telephone :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, I'm getting confused again
    druth Vlodovic: talking mary poppins
    Agatha Macbeth: It's Wol's fault
    stevenaia Michinaga: will check his Wiki Page, they know all
    druth Vlodovic: yes, I blame Wol
    Agatha Macbeth: How are you San?
    Wol Euler: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2140373/
    Lila Darkmatter: oh, not Wol :)
    Santoshima Resident: ok thanks
    Wol Euler: (saving Mr. Banks)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Agatha Macbeth: There to seem to be a lot of them
    Lila Darkmatter: nice film, bit bogged down in flashbacks... have seen Mary Poppins musical play too... wonderful scene of dancing on ceiling that was hard to pull off
    Lila Darkmatter: not much can match life performance eh?
    Lila Darkmatter: live* lol
    Agatha Macbeth: Dancing on the ceiling?
    Lila Darkmatter: yes, Bert dances on the ceiling..was as wonderful a moment as seeing Sandy Duncan fly into the audience as Peter Pan
    Lila Darkmatter: ^.^
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Agatha Macbeth: Hmm

    Now I'm completely lost

    Agatha Macbeth ponders Bert dancing on the ceiling
    Agatha Macbeth: What were they actually saving him from? (Mr Banks, not Bert)

    All seems to have gone quiet

    Agatha Macbeth wonders if she crashed
    druth Vlodovic: yes, you're all alone here
    Agatha Macbeth: Thought so
    Lila Darkmatter: naturally
    stevenaia Michinaga: speaking of crashes, I appear as a cloud to me, can you see me?
    Lila Darkmatter: I see you
    Agatha Macbeth: I see you perfectly Steve
    Santoshima Resident: in geisha garb
    druth Vlodovic: you make a lovely cloud
    Agatha Macbeth: But Wollie's face is still grey
    stevenaia Michinaga: so much for self image
    Wol Euler: you look fine to me
    druth Vlodovic: I'm just guessing that they seek to save Mr Banks from mundanity
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe Sunday syndrome
    druth Vlodovic: though I always envied him a bit
    stevenaia Michinaga: best to judge yourself by how others see you... or not at all
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Lila Darkmatter: envied?
    druth Vlodovic: full of the success of proud contentment
    Lila Darkmatter: "how pleasant is the life I lead"
    Wol Euler: you know, I realize that I cannot remember him at all. Neither of the parents actually
    Agatha Macbeth: And penguins
    druth Vlodovic: a nice jumping off point for anything else you wish to do
    druth Vlodovic: and a solid rock on which to stand when you don't feel like jumping
    Wol Euler nods.
    Lila Darkmatter: but based on ignoring what's going on from others' views in a way
    druth Vlodovic: not sure why so many people are morally opposed to people holding such a position
    druth Vlodovic: maybe
    Wol Euler: althought the L'wren Scott story casts a different light on other people's great lives
    Lila Darkmatter: in M. Poppins, the wife spends all day on women's causes (ignoring kids) but then goes back into submission when he arrives
    druth Vlodovic: he knew of his wife's activisim, disapproved but didn't actively seek to stamp it out
    Agatha Macbeth: Probably something to do with the time it was set in
    Lila Darkmatter: hm... yes Wol
    --BELL--1345
    druth Vlodovic: as for the kids they had a secure homelife, which is likely what gave them the confidence to get in to as much trouble as they did
    Agatha Macbeth: More than likely
    Lila Darkmatter: yes, but felt disconnected from him
    Wol Euler nods.
    Agatha Macbeth: Funny the only bit I seem to remember about now is the 'feed the birds' bit
    druth Vlodovic: "Feed the birds and what do you get? Fat birds!"
    Wol Euler: *rimshot*
    Agatha Macbeth: And supercalifragilisticexpealidocious
    druth Vlodovic: now we have a purpose for the theatre, screening mary poppins
    Lila Darkmatter: I hated that song as a child then as an adult wept at its beauty (feed the birds)
    Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
    Agatha Macbeth: Brucie! :)
    druth Vlodovic: oh?
    Lila Darkmatter: had a record and would always skip that
    Lila Darkmatter: Hi Bruce :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes me too
    Wol Euler nods.
    druth Vlodovic: why is that lila?
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello!
    Wol Euler: it's a surprisingly sad song actually
    Wol Euler: hello bruce
    Lila Darkmatter: maturity.. didn't see the beauty of the old woman
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm still an orange cloud (to myself).
    Agatha Macbeth: Or the banker who wanted him to invest it instead
    Lila Darkmatter: stevie too, is unseen by herself today
    stevenaia Michinaga: me too Bruce, but you look ok to me
    Wol Euler nods.
    Agatha Macbeth: We must dclare an orange cloud day
    druth Vlodovic: ah, I guess, it would be a sparse life, selling birdseed
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh Brucie looks fine to moi


    Bruce Mowbray: I can see stevie, and also myself, but now am curious about this "old woman"
    Wol Euler pastes a Postit to the screen on top of her avatar, in solidarity
    druth Vlodovic: does that make it sad though?
    Lila Darkmatter: heheheh Wol!
    druth Vlodovic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHrRxQVUFN4
    Lila Darkmatter: she is one conscience of the film
    druth Vlodovic: warning: potential sadness

    Brucie now complicates matters further by introducing yet another element

    Bruce Mowbray: Ah yes, feeding the birds . . . but I thought you might be speaking of the old woman in ZORBA the Greek.
    Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
    Bruce Mowbray: "Bouboulina" as Zorba called her.
    Agatha Macbeth: Not baboushka
    Bruce Mowbray: nope, bouboulina.
    Agatha Macbeth: Ok
    Bruce Mowbray: I've been singing about her for 50 years.
    druth Vlodovic: it is sung sadly, but since I'm accustomed to Ozzy and co, who tend to have a disconnect between sound and message....
    Bruce Mowbray: (Since ZORBA first came out in the movies in 1964).
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow, she must have made quite an impression on you
    Bruce Mowbray: The movie did, yes.
    Bruce Mowbray: I have been watching it again, this weekend.
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah the two are almost contemporary then
    Agatha Macbeth: Coincidence
    Bruce Mowbray: Divine plan!
    Santoshima Resident: destiny
    Lila Darkmatter smiles
    Agatha Macbeth: Serendipity
    Agatha Macbeth: Synchronicity
    Bruce Mowbray: There you go! Synchronicity!
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
    Wol Euler: interesting, half the commenters agreed with Lila: hated it as a kid, love it now
    druth Vlodovic: I'm going to ignore that we have entirely changed topic :) the old woman in mary poppins can be said to be about enjoying present reality, ie life
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Zon
    Wol Euler: hello zon
    Lila Darkmatter: ah, hadn't seen that Wol...validating actually :)
    Zon Kwan: heya
    Santoshima Resident: hello Zon
    Bruce Mowbray: (also getting into the synchronicity with my Gnosis studies, lately....) but on to the old woman of YOUR discussion - before my arrival to make such a fuss about everything.
    Lila Darkmatter: Hi Zon :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes Druthy agreed
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah gnosis
    Lila Darkmatter: we ended up in Mary Poppins because Druth went to see live plays ... not a theme session ^.^
    Bruce Mowbray: Loved Mary Poppins.... btw.
    Agatha Macbeth: Guess a theme session on MP works
    druth Vlodovic: topic drift is a personal annoyance, not a big deal for everyone
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Agatha Macbeth: And ZTG too
    Bruce Mowbray: for sure, it works!
    Bruce Mowbray: AND ZORBA! YES!
    Agatha Macbeth: I just find it somewhat confusing, not annoying
    Bruce Mowbray: How is that, aggers?
    Lila Darkmatter nods... one thing I noticed in Saving Mr Banks is that PL Travers was into Gurdjeiff.. but that's an aside
    Agatha Macbeth: Cos it confuses me :p
    Lila Darkmatter: hehe
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh really?
    Bruce Mowbray: good answer.
    Lila Darkmatter: yup
    Agatha Macbeth: He didn't know the fourth way?
    Lila Darkmatter: just a book on the desk in one of the beginning scenes.. and *she* who wrote Mary Poppins
    Agatha Macbeth: Remind me who that was Lil?
    Lila Darkmatter: haha.. I have to step away for a few minutes, brb
    druth Vlodovic: hb lila
    Bruce Mowbray: It seems no matter what the orthodox in power folks do, the "perennial philosophy" finds its own way....
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh, what a cop out! :(
    Bruce Mowbray: Stepping away is appropriate for a lady, aggers.
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes Brucie, true
    Santoshima Resident: P. L. Travers
    Bruce Mowbray: Didn't you know that?

    Actually, no I didn't.  Anyway, now Druth sends us off on yet another tangent

    druth Vlodovic: what is the perennial philosophy?
    Wol Euler: right
    Bruce Mowbray: kk, enough of moi.
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah thanks San
    Santoshima Resident: < detests m poppins
    druth Vlodovic: GASP!
    druth Vlodovic: blasphemy!
    Agatha Macbeth: She flies well
    Wol Euler: not yet, bruce, please explain perennial philosophy etc
    Bruce Mowbray: Aldous Huxley wrote a book by that title, but I think it was Leibnitz who coined the phrase.
    Agatha Macbeth: I know perennial flowers
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh him
    --BELL--1345
    Bruce Mowbray: Perennial philosophy is the basis of all mystical spirituality...
    Bruce Mowbray: including Buddhism....
    Bruce Mowbray: ooops, sry.
    Wol Euler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_philosophy
    Bruce Mowbray: ty!
    Wol Euler: "a perspective within the philosophy of religion which views each of the world’s religious traditions as sharing a single, universal truth on which the foundation of all religious knowledge and doctrine has grown."
    Agatha Macbeth: Shhh
    druth Vlodovic: "don't be a shit"
    Agatha Macbeth: Must ask Rhiannon about that one when i next see her
    Santoshima Resident: "dbas" in reference to ... what?
    Bruce Mowbray: guess I was wrong about Leibnitz. MUCH earlier than he.
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Santoshima Resident: ^ @ druth
    Bruce Mowbray: The term philosophia perennis was first used by Agostino Steuco (1497–1548),[1] drawing on the neo-Platonic philosophy of Marsilio Ficino (1433–1499) and Giovanni Pico della Mirandola (1463–94).
    druth Vlodovic: the problem is nobody wants to agree on the single, universal truth,or on it's proper source
    Agatha Macbeth: Aha, that makes more sense
    Agatha Macbeth: Renaissance stuff
    Bruce Mowbray: It is actually NOT a "truth."
    Bruce Mowbray: It is an experience.
    druth Vlodovic: oh?
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes.
    Bruce Mowbray: The perennial philosophy is not a philosophy at all.
    Wol Euler: I'm guessing that Druth meant "Don't be a shit" as the perennial philosophy, akin to "do unto others etc"
    Bruce Mowbray: It is an interior, intimate, and intuitive experience.
    Agatha Macbeth: Still works tho
    Bruce Mowbray: but one that apparently is shared among folks of all times and cujltures.
    druth Vlodovic: oh, right, please don't think it was applied to anything specific here
    Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
    Santoshima Resident: right, ironic, got it
    Bruce Mowbray makes note not to be a shit.
    Agatha Macbeth: A sound philosophy if you ask me
    Agatha Macbeth: Even if it isn't a philosophy
    druth Vlodovic: can you describe or define this experience bruce?
    Wol Euler: that is also known as Wheaton's Law, formulated by Wil Wheaton
    Zon Kwan: is there any sounder?
    Wol Euler listens.
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth listens too
    Bruce Mowbray: I could explain my own experience, but what value would that be?
    Zon Kwan: much
    Bruce Mowbray: It could not reproduce the experience for you,
    druth Vlodovic: I'd be entertained? 8)
    Zon Kwan: yes
    Bruce Mowbray: so I'd suggest that you go forth and "do likewise."
    Agatha Macbeth: I always like to hear your experiences Brucie
    Bruce Mowbray: In other words,
    Lila Darkmatter: back.. listening to catch up
    Bruce Mowbray: find your own light, as the Buddha uttered in his last breath.
    Agatha Macbeth: Always let your conscience be your guide
    Bruce Mowbray: My "experience" is that - basically -- it is ALL divine.
    Bruce Mowbray: And every thing is a "Gate."
    Bruce Mowbray: There.
    Bruce Mowbray: Satisfied?
    Zon Kwan: be a light unto yourself, but listen to those who have something interesting to say
    druth Vlodovic: ty :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Great!
    Bruce Mowbray: yw!
    Agatha Macbeth: Thanks Brucie
    Bruce Mowbray: The pigeons are divine.
    Bruce Mowbray: The old lady on the steps is divine.
    Agatha Macbeth: That's why we feed them
    Bruce Mowbray: St Pauls Cathedral is divine
    Bruce Mowbray: Mary Poppins is divine.
    Bruce Mowbray: her umbrella is divine.
    Zon Kwan: i am divine
    Bruce Mowbray: (need I continue?)
    Zon Kwan: Bruce is divine
    Santoshima Resident: until you are the one on the steps feeding crumbs to that cloud of pigeons overhead, wishing you had m poppins umbrella
    Agatha Macbeth: De fruit of de vine
    Zon Kwan: shit is divine
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, Zon, you are divine.
    druth Vlodovic: lol
    Lila Darkmatter: divination into everything, Bruce?
    Bruce Mowbray: no, I am being quite serious.
    Bruce Mowbray: Zon is divine.
    Zon Kwan: nods
    Bruce Mowbray: He's just not the ONLY one who is!
    Zon Kwan: nods
    Bruce Mowbray: also nods.
    Wol Euler: "it's all god"
    Zon Kwan: even devil
    druth Vlodovic: I think I get some of what you mean,each thing and situation is itself,worthy of attention and an opening into new ways of life, and oldways
    Agatha Macbeth groks it
    Bruce Mowbray: For those of us subscribing to the Perennial Philosophy, it is, yes, Wol.
    Agatha Macbeth: Well said Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: thank you ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Gosh, I actually felt like I was levitating there for a moment.

    Wol Euler: ((bertie in four minutes))
    Bruce Mowbray: oh well, back to earth.
    Bruce Mowbray: Berti in three minutes!
    druth Vlodovic: too full of the divine
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, time for Bert
    Bruce Mowbray: nods.,
    Bruce Mowbray: I look forward to Bert all week.
    Agatha Macbeth: Well this was a divine session, thank you all
    Lila Darkmatter: thanks Aggers and everyone
    Bruce Mowbray: Indeed, it was. THANKS, all you divine beings!
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Lila Darkmatter: am not heading to Bertie today.... start up disk space issue bothering computer again
    druth Vlodovic: off berting I guess :)
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm off to Berti's mountain.
    Lila Darkmatter: but please send hugs
    Wol Euler: awwww
    Santoshima Resident: bb bruce, et al
    Wol Euler: bye lila, take care
    Agatha Macbeth: OK Lil, take care
    druth Vlodovic: have to see if I can pull the duration,it been a while
    Wol Euler: goodnight all (or see you at the meditaiton)
    Lila Darkmatter: bye everyone <3 thanks
    druth Vlodovic: have fun all
    Agatha Macbeth: Byee ♥
    Zon Kwan: bye
    Santoshima Resident: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=755227504522313 Wild love
    --BELL--1400
    Santoshima Resident: couldn't fit it in, but offer it now
    Zon Kwan: opens slow
    Santoshima Resident: yeah
    Zon Kwan: Africa?
    Santoshima Resident: yes, south africa
    Santoshima Resident: near Pretoria
    Zon Kwan: lions
    Santoshima Resident: & hyenas
    Santoshima Resident: and a unique relationship
    Santoshima Resident: loss of habitat for them
    Zon Kwan: smiles
    Zon Kwan: hyenas yes
    Zon Kwan: bye San
    Santoshima Resident: bye zon
    Santoshima Resident: bye zon

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