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2015.10.31 14:00 - Guardian Meeting: Workable Thoughts
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No headersPresent for this guardian meeting were Bruce, Raffi, Kori, Eliza, Wol, Aggers, Stevenaia, Bleu, Xiri, Elan, Zen, Mick, and Aph!
[ 13:53] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me grins
[ 13:53] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Bruce, funny
[ 13:53] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Hello!
[ 13:54] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I hope we aren't too noxious for you
[ 13:54] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Ha ha.
[ 13:54] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Bleu :)
[ 13:54] Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi guys
[ 13:54] Bleu (bleu.oleander): oops forgot about halloween
[ 13:55] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Hi, Bleu.
[ 13:55] Korel Laloix: is online.
[ 13:55] Bleu (bleu.oleander): ok feel better now
[ 13:55] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): he he he
[ 13:56] Agatha Macbeth: Here I is
[ 13:56] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hello Agatha :) Wow....samurai goddess?
[ 13:56] Bleu (bleu.oleander): you can't tell its me, right? lol
[ 13:56] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
[ 13:56] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Heya, aggers.
[ 13:56] Eliza (eliza.madrigal) tries to place the face
[ 13:56] Bleu (bleu.oleander): hehe
[ 13:56] Agatha Macbeth: Hi Bleuji
[ 13:56] Bleu (bleu.oleander): Aggers :)
[ 13:56] Agatha Macbeth: Are you ill Liz?
[ 13:56] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :P
[ 13:56] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): just a little green
[ 13:56] Bleu (bleu.oleander): green with envy?
[ 13:56] Agatha Macbeth: Or did the Grinch get you?
[ 13:57] Eliza (eliza.madrigal) wonders why green would have grumpy connotations hah
[ 13:57] Eliza (eliza.madrigal) sending teleports today :)
[ 13:57] Bleu (bleu.oleander): good idea
[ 13:57] Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Raffi
[ 13:58] Agatha Macbeth: I forgot this place was here actually
[ 13:58] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I should have sent a photo out
[ 13:58] Agatha Macbeth: Right, need tea
[ 13:58] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Elan and Raffi :)
[ 13:58] stevenaia Michinaga: wave
[ 13:58] Bleu (bleu.oleander): hey steve
[ 13:58] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): fancy
[ 13:58] Bleu (bleu.oleander): Elan :)
[ 13:58] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hey Stevie :)
[ 13:58] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): pretty wings
[ 13:59] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Until everyone is familiar I should have sent a photo of Bleu's spot and teleport sign, or url to the signs?
[ 13:59] Bleu (bleu.oleander): probably good idea
[ 13:59] stevenaia Michinaga: is someone tp'g those who appear below?
[ 13:59] Bleu (bleu.oleander): can be challenging with sim crossing
[ 13:59] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Tping those who IM me
[ 13:59] Bleu (bleu.oleander): hiya Wol
[ 13:59] stevenaia Michinaga: welvome Wol, gtsy
[ 13:59] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Wol :) eep
[ 14:00] Wol Euler: I jumped across, it worked
[ 14:00] Bleu (bleu.oleander): ah great
[ 14:00] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Heya, Wol.
[ 14:00] Bleu (bleu.oleander): other way is more challenging for some reason
[ 14:00] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): explain what the issue is there again?
[ 14:00] Bleu (bleu.oleander): sim crossing
[ 14:00] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Heya, Raffi.
[ 14:00] Bleu (bleu.oleander): better to fly, jump or tp across
[ 14:00] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Heya, Steve.
[ 14:00] Wol Euler: basically a delay in handing over from one server to another, causes/caused people to fall through the floor
[ 14:00] Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes
[ 14:01] Raffila Millgrove: there is a tp thing that will give you choice between 900 and 600. i picked 900 which didn't work. i was nearby but not here.
[ 14:01] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): interesting
[ 14:01] Raffila Millgrove: there is some tp circle right near the pavilion.
[ 14:01] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Oh, yes that's my spot Raffi. 600 is the retreat space
[ 14:01] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Not sure what 900 lands into now, as it was made when there was something else there
[ 14:01] Raffila Millgrove: welli chose 900 but it didn't get me here right.
[ 14:01] Bleu (bleu.oleander): I had LL test this and they couldn't fix it ... seems sim crossings are hard in the sky
[ 14:01] Raffila Millgrove: close but not here.
[ 14:01] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): next door is Bleu's spot
[ 14:01] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and a sign of teleports
[ 14:01] Bleu (bleu.oleander): there is a TPer at the Pavilion also
[ 14:02] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Oh, great. Hadn't seen that
[ 14:02] Raffila Millgrove: ok well i just don't understand anything here anymore.
[ 14:02] stevenaia Michinaga: I may have to depart early
[ 14:02] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :) prob not the only one Raffi, things are changing fast
[ 14:02] Raffila Millgrove: the wiki literally doesn't know me and i don't know where to look to find the scheduled sessions.
[ 14:02] Raffila Millgrove: and i can't find anything on the actual sim.. so that's about Everything. lol
[ 14:03] Bleu (bleu.oleander): :)
[ 14:03] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): (and the scheduled sessions keep changing their moderators, too.)
[ 14:03] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): huh... right on the front page of the public wiki there is the google calendar
[ 14:03] Raffila Millgrove: well i get the emails. i should be and am thankful for that. so i am not totally out of it.
[ 14:03] Agatha Macbeth haz T
[ 14:03] Bleu (bleu.oleander): we should do a tour for those who would like one
[ 14:03] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): that's true, musical hosts
[ 14:03] Agatha Macbeth: Wollie ♥
[ 14:03] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): So the first item: Bruce will now step in instead of Darren on Tuesdays 1pm SLT
[ 14:03] Raffila Millgrove: i was for a long time unable to get the emails.. so i will just be thankful i guess. no biggie.
[ 14:03] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Yes.
[ 14:04] Bleu (bleu.oleander): yay Bruce :)
[ 14:04] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Thanks Bruce
[ 14:04] Jamaican Spice: whispers: A beautiful zesty herbal infusion with brilliant red liquor and a bouquet of flavors accented by the tartness of hibiscus, properly offset by the sweetness of cinnamon. Added cloves and orange peel inspire joyful dancing! A little spicy, a little sweet, just like you, Agatha Macbeth
[ 14:04] Raffila Millgrove: that will be nice bruce. ty
[ 14:04] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Yikes!
[ 14:04] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): yw.
[ 14:04] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): it is a nice session time... hope to make it more often, but then I seem to say that a lot lately
[ 14:04] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but generally a good time for US and Europe
[ 14:05] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): 4 pm eastern.
[ 14:05] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes
[ 14:05] Bleu (bleu.oleander): time change in US tomorrow
[ 14:05] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): any particular focus you think, or spontaneous as arises?
[ 14:05] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Yes, set your clocks back, Yankees!
[ 14:05] Eliza (eliza.madrigal) setting scale back 20 lbs
[ 14:05] Wol Euler chuckles.
[ 14:06] Bleu (bleu.oleander): hehe
[ 14:06] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Xiri :))
[ 14:06] Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Xiri
[ 14:06] Agatha Macbeth: Hola Xira
[ 14:06] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Heya, Xir!
[ 14:06] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): And next item is this new meeting space... how does everyone feel here?
[ 14:06] stevenaia Michinaga: pillows could be fluffier
[ 14:06] Agatha Macbeth: I like it
[ 14:06] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): like the clouds beneath our feet feeling
[ 14:06] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hello everyone:)
[ 14:07] Agatha Macbeth: Just waiting for the lions and gladiators
[ 14:07] Eliza (eliza.madrigal) smiles
[ 14:07] Wol Euler: I find the similarity of textures overall is hard to "read", hard to tell the vertical sides of the steps from the horizontal surfaces
[ 14:07] Bleu (bleu.oleander): this is an offering for use if you all want :)
[ 14:07] Agatha Macbeth: Osiyo K
[ 14:08] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): it is a little hard to read for photos
[ 14:08] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Kori :)
[ 14:08] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ooooohhhh
[ 14:08] Korel Laloix: Osiyo...
[ 14:08] Wol Euler: hello K
[ 14:08] Korel Laloix: brb
[ 14:08] Agatha Macbeth: Looks like she's been at the spirits
[ 14:08] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Hi, Kori. Bye, Kori.
[ 14:08] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): speakign of hard to read for photos... wonderful avi
[ 14:08] Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Kori
[ 14:08] Agatha Macbeth: Ghost bride?
[ 14:08] Bleu (bleu.oleander): nice :)
[ 14:09] Raffila Millgrove: Hi Xiri. HI Kori
[ 14:09] Bleu (bleu.oleander): if you all like, the builders can keep trying designs for a guardian meeting space ... for now can use this is you want
[ 14:09] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hi Raffi! :)
[ 14:09] Korel Laloix: back..
[ 14:09] Korel Laloix: Heya
[ 14:10] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): wb, Kori.
[ 14:10] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I'm happy, so up to others if there is another vision etc
[ 14:10] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): looking down into the sky is fun
[ 14:10] Bleu (bleu.oleander): there is still room prim-wise to build one in Bieup over the pavilion area
[ 14:11] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and we'll hopefully use the theater soonish
[ 14:11] Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes!
[ 14:11] Agatha Macbeth: Mick's on his way
[ 14:11] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): great
[ 14:11] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): let me see if Zen's having trouble....
[ 14:12] Agatha Macbeth: Yay Micko
[ 14:12] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Heya Mick :)
[ 14:12] Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Mick and Zen
[ 14:12] stevenaia Michinaga: waves
[ 14:12] Wol Euler: hello zen, mick
[ 14:12] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Zen, okay you're good
[ 14:12] Mickorod Renard: Hiya
[ 14:12] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Heya, Zen and Mick.
[ 14:12] Zen (zen.arado): Hi all
[ 14:12] Agatha Macbeth: Hi Zenny
[ 14:12] Mickorod Renard: nearly missed by an hour
[ 14:12] Zen (zen.arado): that teleporter is almost invisible
[ 14:13] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): hehe, yes
[ 14:13] Zen (zen.arado): and writing too small
[ 14:13] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hello Zen! :)
[ 14:13] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): have to zoom
[ 14:13] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): dislike really obvious signs about though?
[ 14:13] Wol Euler nods.
[ 14:13] Korel Laloix: brb... getting ready.
[ 14:14] Bleu (bleu.oleander): tried to be discrete
[ 14:14] Eliza (eliza.madrigal) nods
[ 14:14] Bleu (bleu.oleander): not too billboardish
[ 14:14] Zen (zen.arado): not much use having them if no one can see them unless they already know where they are...it seems to me ...anyway
[ 14:14] Zen (zen.arado): secret signs?
[ 14:14] Zen (zen.arado): :)
[ 14:14] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
[ 14:15] Bleu (bleu.oleander): ok will make bigger and brighter?
[ 14:15] Wol Euler: invisible ink on invisible paper
[ 14:15] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I thought to send photo and url of Bleu's spot but not until we were already here today :)
[ 14:15] Bleu (bleu.oleander): tough crowd!
[ 14:15] Eliza (eliza.madrigal) laughs
[ 14:15] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): just a smidge larger would be perfect I think
[ 14:15] Bleu (bleu.oleander): but we aim to please :)
[ 14:15] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Thank you Bleu
[ 14:15] Bleu (bleu.oleander): kk
[ 14:15] Mickorod Renard: I would still be confused no matter what
[ 14:15] Bleu (bleu.oleander): lol
[ 14:15] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): btw, playing with lighting is fun here too
[ 14:16] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Okay next item is a little technical
[ 14:16] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): It is about land donations
[ 14:16] Agatha Macbeth: You OK Brucie?
[ 14:16] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): whispers: Wol or Bleu, would you like to explain what is needed?
[ 14:16] Agatha Macbeth: Nice of you to drop in
[ 14:16] Bleu (bleu.oleander): ok sure
[ 14:16] Wol Euler gestures to Bleu to continue.
[ 14:16] Bleu (bleu.oleander): the group is losing a 512 tier donation
[ 14:17] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Yikes!
[ 14:17] Bleu (bleu.oleander): so we need someone to give a replacement
[ 14:17] Agatha Macbeth: Oh
[ 14:17] Bleu (bleu.oleander): so we don't have to abandon any land
[ 14:17] Mickorod Renard: I am happy to just give..as before but I am best not to get too involved
[ 14:17] Bleu (bleu.oleander): if someone or a few can donate 512 tier that would be great
[ 14:18] Agatha Macbeth gives Bruce the kiss of life
[ 14:18] Bleu (bleu.oleander): we are using donated tier to pay for the group land
[ 14:18] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I'm willing to skim down my land if that helps, but I'm not sure how it all works
[ 14:18] Bleu (bleu.oleander): that's how group land is paid in sl
[ 14:18] Zen (zen.arado): money or land?
[ 14:18] Bleu (bleu.oleander): tier
[ 14:18] Bleu (bleu.oleander): so for example
[ 14:18] Bleu (bleu.oleander): Eliza's land is 1024 sq m
[ 14:18] Bleu (bleu.oleander): it doesn't include your 512?
[ 14:19] Bleu (bleu.oleander): or does
[ 14:19] Bleu (bleu.oleander): if not you could have 1024 plus 512
[ 14:19] Bleu (bleu.oleander): this is an example only
[ 14:19] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes I think it does... would have to change things... not sure
[ 14:19] Bleu (bleu.oleander): I don't know the details
[ 14:19] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): just throwing out there - if it was a situation where some would combine
[ 14:19] Bleu (bleu.oleander): as a premium member you get a free 512
[ 14:19] Bleu (bleu.oleander): if you buy land at a certain tier level
[ 14:20] Bleu (bleu.oleander): you get that plus your free 512
[ 14:20] Bleu (bleu.oleander): if you buy it for a group
[ 14:20] Bleu (bleu.oleander): you get an extra 10% for the group
[ 14:20] Bleu (bleu.oleander): so a 512 donated to a group becomes 563
[ 14:20] Bleu (bleu.oleander): clear as mud?
[ 14:20] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): bbbuuuzzz
[ 14:20] Wol Euler smiles.
[ 14:20] Bleu (bleu.oleander): not sure why it has to be so confusing ... but that's LL
[ 14:21] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): "I am not programmed to respond to that question"
[ 14:21] Zen (zen.arado): so you need a donation of land?
[ 14:21] Bleu (bleu.oleander): so we (PaB group) needs a replacement donation of 512
[ 14:21] Wol Euler: yes
[ 14:21] Bleu (bleu.oleander): tier only
[ 14:21] Wol Euler: well no
[ 14:21] Zen (zen.arado): ok
[ 14:21] Wol Euler: not land as such
[ 14:21] Bleu (bleu.oleander): right
[ 14:21] Wol Euler: tier, the *right* to own land
[ 14:21] Bleu (bleu.oleander): tier is used to pay for the land we own
[ 14:21] Bleu (bleu.oleander): as a group
[ 14:22] Bleu (bleu.oleander): so we had enough to pay for our land until we lost a 512 donation
[ 14:22] Bleu (bleu.oleander): so we need a replacement
[ 14:22] Bleu (bleu.oleander): or we need to drop some land
[ 14:22] Zen (zen.arado): if I donated my 512 I wouldn't have any land of my own then?
[ 14:22] Wol Euler: you would not have any free land of your onw
[ 14:22] Bleu (bleu.oleander): right Zen, unless you bought some
[ 14:22] Wol Euler: own
[ 14:23] Wol Euler: you can have as much as you wish, as long as you pay for it.
[ 14:23] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): So that's something for the group to consider. The WG will make a final call about it if no one steps forward with donation or other ideas
[ 14:23] Bleu (bleu.oleander): we could also take smaller donations from a few that add up to 512
[ 14:24] Mickorod Renard: when did we start funding it ourselves? I forgot
Regarding the deadline, there was some confusion in the following conversation. What you need to know is that yes, we have to sort this out before the 14th!
[ 14:24] stevenaia Michinaga: we need to do this by the 15th? is that correct?
[ 14:24] Bleu (bleu.oleander): before the 14th
[ 14:24] Wol Euler: 14th
[ 14:24] stevenaia Michinaga: nods
[ 14:24] Agatha Macbeth: 14th
[ 14:24] Bleu (bleu.oleander): not sure when the group pay date is?
[ 14:25] Bleu (bleu.oleander): if we lose the 512 before our pay date, we won't have enough to pay for all the group land
[ 14:25] Bleu (bleu.oleander): and LL will get after us
[ 14:25] Wol Euler: I'm not sure that matters, bleu. The significant date is the 14th
[ 14:25] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): >chomp<
[ 14:25] Wol Euler: after that we have too little coverage
[ 14:25] Mickorod Renard: how much in real money would cover it for a year?
[ 14:25] Wol Euler: money doesn't help, mick
[ 14:25] stevenaia Michinaga: paydate appears to be the 21st
[ 14:25] Mickorod Renard: ah ok
[ 14:25] Wol Euler: we really do need tier
[ 14:26] Bleu (bleu.oleander): ok so we have until the 21st to figure it out
[ 14:26] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): is offline.
[ 14:26] Bleu (bleu.oleander): has to be enough tier in account on the 21st to pay for our land
[ 14:26] Elan (elanvitalo): (Brucie crashed, sry)....
[ 14:26] Wol Euler: bleu, I am not certain that that is true. can we PLEASE try to solve this no later than the 14th?
[ 14:26] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): is online.
[ 14:26] Wol Euler: wb bruce
[ 14:26] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): wb Bruce
[ 14:27] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): yw.
[ 14:27] Mickorod Renard: and i guess, if we downsize we loose prim?
[ 14:27] Zen (zen.arado): what happens if no tier is forthcoming?
[ 14:27] Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes, we lose prims too
[ 14:27] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): then we drop a bit of land, Zen
[ 14:27] Wol Euler: basically the Lab becomes unhappy and takes steps against us, I don't know what that means or what their timetable would be
[ 14:27] Mickorod Renard: is it the prims or the land that is critical?
[ 14:28] Wol Euler: tier
[ 14:28] Bleu (bleu.oleander): if there isn't enough tier in the account when pay up date comes LL will send us a note
[ 14:28] Bleu (bleu.oleander): and give us time to add tier
[ 14:28] Bleu (bleu.oleander): I think 7 days or so
[ 14:28] Wol Euler: good, ty
[ 14:29] Bleu (bleu.oleander): so we should keep our pay date in mind
[ 14:29] Wol Euler: in the interests of completion, the land we would lose is worth 117 prims; we would have that much fewer to play with
[ 14:29] Bleu (bleu.oleander): right
[ 14:29] Bruce (bruce.mowbray) listens and learns.
[ 14:29] Bleu (bleu.oleander): and since we're already using it ... some trees have to fall :)
[ 14:30] stevenaia Michinaga: sigh
[ 14:30] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): deforestation.
[ 14:30] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Yikes!
[ 14:30] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
[ 14:30] Zen (zen.arado): so we are near the limit?
[ 14:30] Bleu (bleu.oleander): we are in Mieum, but have some in Bieup still
[ 14:31] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): there are also discussions also, about making a way to give permissions for non guardians to rehearse in the theater space, so would be nice not to lose prims
[ 14:31] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but, the group will adapt
[ 14:31] Wol Euler: yes, a theatre without props and scenery on stage would be a bit grim
[ 14:31] Bleu (bleu.oleander): right would be best to keep the prims in Bieup
[ 14:31] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): so it isn't an "emergency" as such but would be nice to stay with cushion
[ 14:31] Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes
[ 14:31] Bleu (bleu.oleander): nothing is really an emergency
[ 14:32] Eliza (eliza.madrigal) smiles
[ 14:32] Bleu (bleu.oleander): just a reshuffling of sorts
[ 14:32] Bleu (bleu.oleander): and a few less prims somewhere
[ 14:32] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): thanks for the explanation
Workable Thoughts
[ 14:32] Mickorod Renard: has anyone got a ..sort of..workable thought in their head?
[ 14:32] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): "workable thought" - interesting phrase
[ 14:33] Bruce (bruce.mowbray) loves pragmatism.
[ 14:33] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
[ 14:33] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): but not deforestation.
[ 14:33] Wol Euler: there is one very simple workable thought: somebody who has a premium account and does not yet own land, donates their 512 sq m to us.
[ 14:33] Wol Euler: that is simple and instant
[ 14:33] Bleu (bleu.oleander): for anyone who wants all the actual numbers we can paste them into the log
[ 14:33] Wol Euler: and workable.
[ 14:33] Bleu (bleu.oleander): right Wol :)
[ 14:33] Mickorod Renard: thanks Wol
[ 14:33] Bruce (bruce.mowbray) nods, holds breath.
[ 14:34] Mickorod Renard: so for me to help I would need to go premium
[ 14:34] Wol Euler: exactly
[ 14:34] Mickorod Renard: thinks
[ 14:34] Bleu (bleu.oleander): or a few people who have some odd sizes of tier they're not using
[ 14:34] Eliza (eliza.madrigal) nods
[ 14:34] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I'll ask that everyone reads this log so that some not present can consider as well
[ 14:35] Bleu (bleu.oleander): ok good
[ 14:35] Mickorod Renard: i have so far steered clear of buying into sl premium...although i have happily paid tier as an independant
[ 14:35] Zen (zen.arado): I could donate my 512 but I need somewhere to test my stream is working sometimes
[ 14:35] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): you are already 'the' media guy here, Zen
[ 14:35] Wol Euler: technically we only need 502, because we have 10 spare
[ 14:36] Wol Euler: so you could keep .. well, multiple of four ... 8 sq m for your own use :)
[ 14:36] Zen (zen.arado): :))
[ 14:36] Zen (zen.arado): great :)
[ 14:36] Agatha Macbeth: How many prim is that? :p
[ 14:36] Wol Euler grins.
[ 14:36] Wol Euler: approximately zero, aggers
[ 14:36] Agatha Macbeth: Hm
[ 14:36] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): hm
[ 14:36] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): hm
[ 14:36] Eliza (eliza.madrigal) giggles softly
[ 14:36] Wol Euler: sorry, one.
[ 14:36] Wol Euler: one prim
[ 14:37] Agatha Macbeth: He could rez a box then
[ 14:37] Wol Euler: an empty one, yes
[ 14:37] Wol Euler smiles.
[ 14:37] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! :D :p :D :p :D
[ 14:37] Bleu (bleu.oleander): I think the 10 includes the 10% though
[ 14:37] Agatha Macbeth: Erk
[ 14:37] Wol Euler: oh let me check
[ 14:37] Wol Euler: you may be right
[ 14:38] Wol Euler: damn, you're right
[ 14:38] Wol Euler: there is NO spare
[ 14:38] Wol Euler: we need it all
[ 14:38] Bleu (bleu.oleander): tricky
[ 14:38] Wol Euler: sorry
[ 14:38] Bleu (bleu.oleander): np
[ 14:38] Bleu (bleu.oleander): been there many times lol
[ 14:38] Agatha Macbeth: Tricksy
[ 14:38] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): so some follow up is needed.... figuring it out before that date...
[ 14:39] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): could have another guardian meeting next week, though I wouldn't be able to be here... but I'm not our tech genius, so :)
[ 14:39] Bleu (bleu.oleander): I think we can do this via emails?
[ 14:39] Wol Euler: I think that is a good idea, to keep it moving forward
[ 14:39] Wol Euler: (meeting)
[ 14:40] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and in the meantime could try to have some messages including those possibly willing to help, included with WG emails
[ 14:40] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): like Zen and Mick?
[ 14:40] Mickorod Renard: :)
[ 14:40] Bleu (bleu.oleander): on the 21st we won't have enough tier to pay for our land so we need to either get 512 tier donation or drop land before that [see note above - daate is 14th]
[ 14:40] Eliza (eliza.madrigal) nods... so an ongoing conversation seems important
[ 14:40] Wol Euler: so it would be REALLY good to have this solved by the 14th, so there is no gap
[ 14:41] Mickorod Renard: its not the paying but the being a premium that i fight against a lil
[ 14:41] Agatha Macbeth: Mind the gap
[ 14:41] Korel Laloix: Off to do that RL thing.. Happy Halo ween and All Saints' Day.
[ 14:41] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Have fun Kori
[ 14:41] Wol Euler: have fun, korel!
[ 14:41] Agatha Macbeth: Behave yourself
[ 14:41] Zen (zen.arado): that's an expensive step Mick
[ 14:41] Korel Laloix: ciao
[ 14:41] Korel Laloix: is offline.
[ 14:41] Bleu (bleu.oleander): bye Kori
[ 14:41] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): bye, Kori.
[ 14:41] stevenaia Michinaga: bye Korel
[ 14:41] Zen (zen.arado): bye Kori
[ 14:41] Mickorod Renard: bye kori
[ 14:41] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Okay, for now shall we move onto the next item? Less technical and more fun... ideas stirring for new project
[ 14:42] Mickorod Renard: kk
[ 14:42] Bleu (bleu.oleander): yep
[ 14:42] Wol Euler listens.
[ 14:42] Agatha Macbeth gets a spoon
[ 14:42] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): kk.
[ 14:42] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Glad Raffi is here.... cause she started an email discussion similar...
[ 14:42] Bleu (bleu.oleander): would you all enjoy an art project for december?
[ 14:42] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): an art project?
[ 14:42] Bleu (bleu.oleander): if so, an email coming soon :)
[ 14:43] Wol Euler: I would say yes, but I can't actively participate, I am caught up in two competitions at work which will take me right up to the 23rd
[ 14:43] Bleu (bleu.oleander): would it be better to wait until after the 1st of the year?
[ 14:43] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I like the way the projects and celebrating of the projects has given us reasons to meet
[ 14:43] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): I would enjuoy a December project.
[ 14:43] Wol Euler: not if others are willing :)
[ 14:43] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): or a January project - doesn't matter to moi.
[ 14:44] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): OK with either too
[ 14:44] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but we would start December?
[ 14:44] Bruce (bruce.mowbray) nods, appreciatively (if that's a word).
[ 14:44] Bleu (bleu.oleander): could start in dec and go into jan?
[ 14:44] Agatha Macbeth: It is
[ 14:44] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): sounds good to me
[ 14:44] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): ty, aggers.
[ 14:44] Bleu (bleu.oleander): ok good
[ 14:44] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yay, ty
[ 14:45] Bleu (bleu.oleander): watch for a project email soon
[ 14:45] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Great!
[ 14:45] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Does anyone have other items?
[ 14:45] Bleu (bleu.oleander): just to say ...
[ 14:45] Agatha Macbeth: Amy updates on the new WG?
[ 14:45] Bleu (bleu.oleander): when you leave here TP out
[ 14:45] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): I hope that no one minds my buddy Elan auditing our meeting today.
[ 14:45] Bleu (bleu.oleander): or fall to the ground :)
[ 14:46] Mickorod Renard: :)
[ 14:46] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
[ 14:46] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Don't mind at all
[ 14:46] Elan (elanvitalo): I appreciate your inviting me, Brucie.
WG - Welcome Aggers! :)
[ 14:46] stevenaia Michinaga: yes, any volunteers for the WG
[ 14:46] Elan (elanvitalo): ty.
[ 14:46] stevenaia Michinaga: great fun
[ 14:46] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Elan is regular at sessions :)
[ 14:46] Elan (elanvitalo) nods.
[ 14:46] Elan (elanvitalo): (wanted to show off my human mask).
[ 14:47] Bleu (bleu.oleander): hehe
[ 14:47] Agatha Macbeth: EEK!
[ 14:47] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): so far new WG is same folks, with one potential I'm harrassing in IM right now
[ 14:47] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)))
[ 14:48] Bleu (bleu.oleander): :)
[ 14:48] stevenaia Michinaga: :), you little arm twister
[ 14:48] Eliza (eliza.madrigal) giggles
[ 14:48] stevenaia Michinaga: Eliza, the heavy in our group
[ 14:48] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): we still have to figure out somewhat predictable meeting times, but we settled into a good time for a while there
[ 14:48] Bleu (bleu.oleander): Eliza ... the hammer
[ 14:48] Agatha Macbeth: The heavy what?
[ 14:49] Eliza (eliza.madrigal) laughs
[ 14:49] stevenaia Michinaga: the heavy hand of the WG
[ 14:49] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yeah sure
[ 14:49] Agatha Macbeth: Aphie!
[ 14:49] Zen (zen.arado): Hi Aph
[ 14:49] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Aph!
[ 14:49] Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Aph
[ 14:49] Agatha Macbeth: Happy birthday (belatedly)
[ 14:49] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): witchy woman
[ 14:49] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Heya, Aph!
[ 14:49] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hello Aph! :)
[ 14:49] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Hiya
[ 14:49] stevenaia Michinaga: time to go, see you all soon
[ 14:49] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): bye Stevie, ty for being here
[ 14:49] Wol Euler: bye stevie, take care
[ 14:49] Bleu (bleu.oleander): ok bye Steve
[ 14:50] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): s8igh
[ 14:50] Mickorod Renard: bye stevie
[ 14:50] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): bye steve
[ 14:50] Zen (zen.arado): ok byee all
[ 14:50] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): bye steve.
[ 14:50] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): bye Zen too!
[ 14:50] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): bye Zen! :)
[ 14:50] Wol Euler: bye zen
[ 14:50] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and all those who must go :)
[ 14:50] Mickorod Renard: bye zen
[ 14:50] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): bye, Zen-ji.
[ 14:50] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I just have to run out to buy candy before nightfall
[ 14:50] Bleu (bleu.oleander): me too
[ 14:50] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): kk
[ 14:50] Bleu (bleu.oleander): are we done?
[ 14:50] Bruce (bruce.mowbray) ponders putting thing off to the last minute.
[ 14:51] Mickorod Renard: I am in the middle of a firework display
[ 14:51] Wol Euler smiles.
[ 14:51] Bruce (bruce.mowbray) dies from laughing....
[ 14:51] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): pants on fire?
[ 14:51] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Aggers has gracefully decided to join our little WG gathering
[ 14:51] Raffila Millgrove: ok well thank you everyone for your hard work.
[ 14:51] Wol Euler cheers!
[ 14:51] Bleu (bleu.oleander): yay!!
[ 14:51] Wol Euler: well done, that girl.
[ 14:51] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): ***** APPLAUSE! *****
[ 14:51] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): ***** APPLAUSE! *****
[ 14:51] Mickorod Renard: nearly got blown up
[ 14:52] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): thanks Agatha :)
[ 14:52] Agatha Macbeth: Graceful moi
[ 14:52] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): what did I miss?
[ 14:52] Wol Euler: take a bow
[ 14:52] Mickorod Renard: thanks everyone
[ 14:52] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): thanks Mick! Raffi!
[ 14:52] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): bye all..have a nice day/evening! :)
[ 14:52] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): bye, Xir-ji.
[ 14:52] Mickorod Renard: bye xir
[ 14:52] Agatha Macbeth: Hasta porno
[ 14:52] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Bye Xiri :))
[ 14:52] Wol Euler: I shall move on too, I have to work tomorrow
[ 14:53] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Aph, plenty of things... will have to read log please
[ 14:53] Agatha Macbeth: Aww
[ 14:53] Mickorod Renard: ok,,I had better go,,and focus on whats goin on here
[ 14:53] Wol Euler: remember to set your clocks back, north americans!
[ 14:53] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): OK nite Wol
[ 14:53] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): bye, Wol-ji!
[ 14:53] Mickorod Renard: c u soon
[ 14:53] Agatha Macbeth: Make sure it doesn't fall down
[ 14:53] Mickorod Renard: byeeeeee
[ 14:53] Wol Euler: glad to have you rejoining the entire rest of the world, timewise :)
[ 14:53] Wol Euler: /me grins.
[ 14:53] Eliza (eliza.madrigal) laughs
[ 14:53] Bruce (bruce.mowbray) makes not about setting clocks back.
[ 14:53] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): also note.
[ 14:53] Wol Euler: <3
[ 14:54] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): thanks everyone :)
[ 14:54] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): now if we would just join the rest of the world with the metric system.
[ 14:54] Bleu (bleu.oleander): BOO all ... bye for now
[ 14:54] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Thank you, Eliza.
[ 14:54] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): there was a pres candidate whose platform was just that
[ 14:54] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): probably Sanders (?)
[ 14:55] Agatha Macbeth: Metric or treat
[ 14:55] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Boo Bleu
[ 14:55] Agatha Macbeth: Boo Bleuji
[ 14:55] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): bye, Bleu-ji.
[ 14:55] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): no I think, um... searches memory
[ 14:55] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Bye Bleu, thanks!!
[ 14:55] Bleu (bleu.oleander): happy tricking
[ 14:55] Bleu (bleu.oleander): ty!
[ 14:55] Agatha Macbeth: Was it JFK, maybe that's why they shot him
[ 14:55] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): oh dear.
[ 14:55] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Chaffee
[ 14:55] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Yikes!
[ 14:55] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): That's been a while, Eliza.
[ 14:56] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ause-politics/
[ 14:56] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): they didn't ask him about it in the debate I think
[ 14:56] Agatha Macbeth: I'd settle for somebody who would get the time synched properly
[ 14:56] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): OH! Actually not so long ago. Just in June 2015.
[ 14:56] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): "Chafee, a Republican-turned-independent-turned-Democrat, gave a brief and chipper address that called for America to re-engage with "international community" with diplomacy and "symbolic" moves. "
[ 14:56] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): hah right?!
[ 14:57] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): I'm all for it.
[ 14:57] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I remember when there was a push for it
[ 14:57] Agatha Macbeth: Sounds worse than bobbing John
[ 14:57] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): school was pretty confusing around that time
[ 14:57] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): just no right hand/left hand coordination, but I agree it would be a positive overall
[ 14:57] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): expensive, though.
[ 14:57] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes
[ 14:57] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): they would have to change temperature, size and distance...
[ 14:57] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): nods.
[ 14:58] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): they made signs with both/once upon a time
[ 14:58] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but then had to remove them
[ 14:58] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): "new math" hahah
[ 14:58] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): I must go, also.
[ 14:58] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Ah gee... okay taking son to buy candy
[ 14:58] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Happy Trick or Treating, Eliza.
[ 14:58] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): nice to see you all
[ 14:58] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): and thanks, everyone.
[ 14:59] Agatha Macbeth: Don't forget George
[ 14:59] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Bye Bruce
[ 14:59] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): <3 not me... staying in watching films
[ 14:59] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Bye for now.
[ 14:59] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): bfn
[ 14:59] Agatha Macbeth: Trick or woof
[ 14:59] Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Happy Halloween, George, wherever you are.
[ 14:59] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): got george a hoodie
[ 14:59] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but the kids won't let me put it on him
[ 14:59] Agatha Macbeth: Aww
[ 14:59] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I embarrass them
[ 14:59] Agatha Macbeth: Does he need one in Florida?
[ 14:59] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): no, but for inside at night after baths
[ 15:00] Agatha Macbeth: Ha
[ 15:00] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and maybe when we have 3 days of winter
[ 15:00] Agatha Macbeth: Hope it has holes for his ears
[ 15:00] Eliza (eliza.madrigal) grins
[ 15:00] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): he has such big wonderful ears, eh?
[ 15:00] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
[ 15:00] Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
[ 15:00] Eliza (eliza.madrigal) is in love
[ 15:00] Agatha Macbeth: All the better to listen with
[ 15:00] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
[ 15:01] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): well, hugs and sweet things
[ 15:01] Agatha Macbeth: Tatty bye
[ 15:01] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): byee
[ 15:01] Agatha Macbeth: Bye Aphie
[ 15:01] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): bye ladies
[ 15:01] Agatha Macbeth: Ride well
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