2014.03.01 13:00 - Speaking of weather . . . .

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray. The comments are by Bruce Mowbray.

    Qt Core: Hi -----
    -----: Oh hey there =)
    Qt Core: Hi Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello!
    Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Qt!
    Qt Core: Hi Wester, Zon
    Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Wester! Great to see you again!
    Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Zon!
    Wester Kiranov: hi guys
    -----: Hello ^^
    Bruce Mowbray: ----- - welcome to PaB! The rules require that I inquire whether you've come here before -- and whether you have given your permission to have whatever you might say in chat posted into our on-line wiki.
    Bruce Mowbray: May I please post your chat into the wiki, -----?
    -----: I've been here on and off for over a year =) I've usually declined that for privacy concerns =)
    Bruce Mowbray: kk.
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks.
    Bruce Mowbray: I shall take note of that when I post the wiki.
    Bruce Mowbray: (Also, I've just given you a "new" notecard.)
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    -----: =)
    -----: I read it
    Bruce Mowbray: kk.
    Bruce Mowbray: So, Pabbers, how's the week been for you?
    Bruce Mowbray: Wintry blasts?
    Bruce Mowbray: Flooding?
    Zon Kwan: busy, and yours Bruce?
    Bruce Mowbray: Drought?
    Bruce Mowbray: or, perhaps, something more interesting than the weather?
    Bruce Mowbray: Also pretty busy, thanks.
    Qt Core: tiring, and rainy
    Bruce Mowbray: but we've yet another winter storm moving in tonight -- supposed to get up to a foot of snow.
    Bruce Mowbray: Everyone is SICK of winter here.
    Bruce Mowbray: rain rain go away... come again some other day!
    -----: I like the winter =)
    Wester Kiranov: we actually had a day of spring this week - sort of
    Bruce Mowbray: I enjoy the first part of winter... all the cozy feelings, etc.
    Qt Core: quite a warn winter, but I don't remember one so rainy
    Bruce Mowbray: but after six months of it -- I'm ready for spring, for sure.
    -----: I like the snow, the cold, the blizzards, the miserable people complaining about the winter is the best
    Bruce Mowbray: Great Britain is really suffering, you know.
    Bruce Mowbray: (from rain, I mean.)
    -----: very schadenfreunde =)
    Qt Core: they will be abruptly exchanged with people complaining about the hot summer
    -----: yep, I'm one of those people
    Bruce Mowbray: I love the dramatic winter weather (as I also love the dramatic summer weather)... It's these long spells with snow drifts all over that make me long for spring...)
    Bruce Mowbray: Since my typist lives far out in the country, there are things he simply cannot do when the roads are blocked with snow.
    Bruce Mowbray: which is also sort of cozy, and hermitish, and nice..
    Qt Core: we got a thunderstorm here a couple days ago, a thunderstorm with lightning bolts and thunders... never heard of in February
    Bruce Mowbray: (and that gives my typist more appreciation for access to the world that SL offers.)
     Bruce Mowbray: Amazing isn't that?! We had a thunderstorm here last week, too!
    Bruce Mowbray: In February!
    Bruce Mowbray: What else (besides the weather) is on folks' minds today?
    Qt Core: as long one was under a roof one could marvel at it at pleasure
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, a roof is good.
    Bruce Mowbray: and walls.


    --BELL--


    Bruce Mowbray: My typist walked across America when he was 34, and MAN OH MAN did he learn to appreciate roofs and walls... although 89 days [nights, actually] sleeping under the stars has a lot to recommend it, too.)
    Wester Kiranov: yeah, we people can appreciate power, as long as it isn't directed against us
    Zon Kwan: really?
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, really, if that was directed to me, Zon.
    Zon Kwan: like Forrest Gump but slower?
    Bruce Mowbray: "Power"? as in electric power -- or something else, Wester?
    Bruce Mowbray: FG actually ran, yes... I just walked.
    Wester Kiranov: As in the power of a thunderstorm. Or big waves in the sea. Or fire.
    Bruce Mowbray: AH! YES!
    Bruce Mowbray: and MOUNTAINS!
    Bruce Mowbray: VOLCANOES!
    Bruce Mowbray: EARTHQUAKES!
    Bruce Mowbray: TSUNAMIS!
    Bruce Mowbray: (better stop with that, before I step on toes....)
    Qt Core: the police, the IRS ;-)
    Wester Kiranov: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: The NSA!
    Bruce Mowbray: PUTIN!
    Bruce Mowbray: (alas.)
    Bruce Mowbray: So, is paranoid the new normal?
    Bruce Mowbray: or, are they really out to get us?
    Wester Kiranov: well, i wouldn't mind being normal
    Bruce Mowbray: Normal has its advantages, for sure....
    Bruce Mowbray: (not sure what those are, but perhaps advantages....)
    Qt Core: it is surely "cheaper" less to think
    Wester Kiranov: i think most of the universe doesn't even notice us
    Bruce Mowbray: I am sure that it does not notice us, Wester.
    Zon Kwan: who?
    Bruce Mowbray: but, when you fit into the "default," things can be easier.
    Bruce Mowbray: (as Qt mentioned.)
    Qt Core: sometimes even majority can be right, btw
    Bruce Mowbray: [My typist rebelled against being a "default person" in his early youth....
    Zon Kwan: waves
    Bruce Mowbray: and even now he is reaping the benefits of his , shall we call it, "uniqueness."]
    Bruce Mowbray: leaving so soon, Zon...
    Bruce Mowbray: bye for now, good person!
    Wester Kiranov: bye Zon
    Qt Core: there were times when being different was the norm, being rebellious
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, my typist lived in Berkeley for seven years...
    Wester Kiranov: yes, but even in those groups there are rules about how to be different
    Bruce Mowbray: but, he had become unique far earlier than that.
    Bruce Mowbray: OH YES, there surely are, Wester.
    Bruce Mowbray: Indeed, the "RULES" of out-groups" are often much more stringent than those of in-groups.
    Bruce Mowbray: (my personal experience, in fact.)
    Qt Core: i agree
    Bruce Mowbray: - - - not grokking marijuana in the '60's in Berkeley, for example.
    Bruce Mowbray: [My typist was SUCH a square!]
    Bruce Mowbray: Do they still use that word - "square"?
    Qt Core: who know ;-)
    Qt Core: ?
    Wester Kiranov: it does sound old-fashioned to me, but English is not my first language
    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmm.
    Bruce Mowbray: I've not heard the world "square" used in decades....
    Bruce Mowbray: so, if I use it, I surely must be "square"!
    Bruce Mowbray: (a 60's term - - - and should have remained there!)


    --BELL--


    Qt Core: i was quite proud of my accomplishments of this week (i just got my gym subscription and went there 3 times in this week) then i heard something about a friend of a friend
    Bruce Mowbray: I recall a sociologist wrote a book about such things...
    Bruce Mowbray: YES!
    Bruce Mowbray: You go, QT!
    Qt Core: he is just back from Africa where he did some voluntary work in a very poor area
    Bruce Mowbray: a friend of a friend...
    Bruce Mowbray: OH DEAR!
    Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
    Bruce Mowbray listens, carefully.
    Qt Core: and reported being asked something like this: "Do you really pay money to lose weight in Europe ?"
    Bruce Mowbray: HA!
    Bruce Mowbray: Ironic, isn't it!?
    Qt Core: yea, made my day :-(
    Bruce Mowbray: When having to lose body weight is your problem.... it seems far removed from the millions who starve in other lands, to be sure.
    Wester Kiranov: it's possible to be overweight AND undernourished at the same time
    Wester Kiranov: read about the Pima Indians sometimes
    Bruce Mowbray: Then it gets down to certain "nutritional deficiencies" --
    Bruce Mowbray: yes.
    Qt Core: on the other hand i hope this will make me work about not wasting that money (and luckily i went to the cheaper gym too, but not for financial reasons)
    Bruce Mowbray: GYM is GOOD! I used to go to the gym almost daily when I lived near one....
    Bruce Mowbray: But, alas, the nearest gym is now about 20 miles away.
    Qt Core: gym is hell, but it is needed
    Bruce Mowbray: and, although I need it more, I never go there.
    Bruce Mowbray: I used to love going to the gym.
    Wester Kiranov: i think sport is a symptom of good health, only partly a cause
    Bruce Mowbray: It gave a whole different part of my being a "workout."
    Qt Core: the one i go is 2 minutes or maybe even less from home
    Bruce Mowbray: GREAT!
    Bruce Mowbray: I am happy for you, Qt.
    Bruce Mowbray: Please do keep up with your workouts.
    Bruce Mowbray ponders "symptoms" and "causes."
    Qt Core: i now have to find the right music, Daft Punk are quite good for it
    Bruce Mowbray ponders "Daft Punk."
    Bruce Mowbray: and also Googles 'Daft Punk.'
    Wester Kiranov: people who manage to keep up sports have energy to spare, and this is caused by being in good health
    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.daftpunk.com/
    Bruce Mowbray: Energy that goes around, apparently comes back around. Your point is well made, Wester.
    Wester Kiranov: thanks
    Bruce Mowbray: IO think that might be a demonstration of "circulation." Bruce: I*
    Qt Core: Io is the Italian for I ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: sending the energy "out," and discovering that it returns.
    Bruce Mowbray: Io?
    Qt Core: Io
    Bruce Mowbray: Like the moon of Jupiter?
    Qt Core: yes, same spelling
    Bruce Mowbray: Wow!
    Bruce Mowbray: And in Spanish, YO!
    Bruce Mowbray: or in German, Ich!
    Qt Core: and not capitalized (one of the weirdness of English)
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, English does capitalize "proper nouns."
    Bruce Mowbray: especially first person singular... "I"


    --BELL--


    Qt Core: maybe both, i don't know German
    Bruce Mowbray: but why not capitalize "you," and they"?
    Bruce Mowbray: and "we"?
    Qt Core: it doesn't even have another meaning one could mix up with if not capitalized (i always found it a little excessive and i usually don't capitalize it)
    Bruce Mowbray: I think that all nouns are capitalized in German, are they not?
    Bruce Mowbray: "I" is always capitalized in English, of course.
    Bruce Mowbray: (such egotists! -- we are.)
    Bruce Mowbray looks at weather radar map to see where the storm is at this time.
    Qt Core: strangely i usually think about USA and not UK, in this case ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh yes. USA is mostly egotists.
    Bruce Mowbray: FOR SURE!
    Bruce Mowbray: USA would rather spend billions on foreign wars than fix its bridges and highways.
    Bruce Mowbray: (and schools).
    Wester Kiranov: the question is, are there more egotists in the USA than in the non-English speaking world?
    Bruce Mowbray: probably no more in the USA, Wester. But we know the tree by its fruit....
    Bruce Mowbray: and the USA has a lot of ego-like fruit.
    Qt Core: maybe closet egotists as USA has (or think to have) the power to back it
    Bruce Mowbray: (which might be due to the USA's power, to link back to something you said earlier....)
    Bruce Mowbray: Power seems to "corrupt."
    Bruce Mowbray: and absolute power, absolutely.
    Bruce Mowbray: (not to be original on that one!)
    Wester Kiranov yawns
    Bruce Mowbray: I think Qt and I were thinking the same thought at the same time.
    Wester Kiranov: I'm getting tired
    Bruce Mowbray: If aggers were here, she'd have said "SNAP!"
    Bruce Mowbray: Me too, Wester.
    Bruce Mowbray: Be thee well!
    Bruce Mowbray: and rest well!
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now.
    Qt Core: bye Wester sleep well
    Bruce Mowbray: Please come back soon!
    Wester Kiranov: so see you later & sleep well
    Wester Kiranov: bye
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now.
    Bruce Mowbray: I should probably be going, too. My typist is poking me to scrape up supper.
    Bruce Mowbray: I offered him a steak dinner, but he's a vegan.
    Bruce Mowbray: He eats steamed rice and veggies every night.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
    Bruce Mowbray: B_O_R_I_N_G.....
    Qt Core: thinking about a saying about power... power wears out... he who don't have it
    Bruce Mowbray listens carefully.
    Bruce Mowbray: ...
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm guessing that it also wears out the person who DOES have it.
    Bruce Mowbray: as Shakespeare said, "Heavy is the head that wears the crown."
    Bruce Mowbray: I bid you a pleasant weekend, Qt!
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now.
    Qt Core: ty, Bruce have fun and rice is good, never boring
    Bruce Mowbray: Rice is VERY good!
    Bruce Mowbray: Be well!

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