The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray. The comments are by Bruce Mowbray.
Qt Core: Hi -----
-----: Oh hey there =)
Qt Core: Hi Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: Hello!
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Qt!
Qt Core: Hi Wester, Zon
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Wester! Great to see you again!
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Zon!
Wester Kiranov: hi guys
-----: Hello ^^
Bruce Mowbray: ----- - welcome to PaB! The rules require that I inquire whether you've come here before -- and whether you have given your permission to have whatever you might say in chat posted into our on-line wiki.
Bruce Mowbray: May I please post your chat into the wiki, -----?
-----: I've been here on and off for over a year =) I've usually declined that for privacy concerns =)
Bruce Mowbray: kk.
Bruce Mowbray: Thanks.
Bruce Mowbray: I shall take note of that when I post the wiki.
Bruce Mowbray: (Also, I've just given you a "new" notecard.)
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
-----: =)
-----: I read it
Bruce Mowbray: kk.
Bruce Mowbray: So, Pabbers, how's the week been for you?
Bruce Mowbray: Wintry blasts?
Bruce Mowbray: Flooding?
Zon Kwan: busy, and yours Bruce?
Bruce Mowbray: Drought?
Bruce Mowbray: or, perhaps, something more interesting than the weather?
Bruce Mowbray: Also pretty busy, thanks.
Qt Core: tiring, and rainy
Bruce Mowbray: but we've yet another winter storm moving in tonight -- supposed to get up to a foot of snow.
Bruce Mowbray: Everyone is SICK of winter here.
Bruce Mowbray: rain rain go away... come again some other day!
-----: I like the winter =)
Wester Kiranov: we actually had a day of spring this week - sort of
Bruce Mowbray: I enjoy the first part of winter... all the cozy feelings, etc.
Qt Core: quite a warn winter, but I don't remember one so rainy
Bruce Mowbray: but after six months of it -- I'm ready for spring, for sure.
-----: I like the snow, the cold, the blizzards, the miserable people complaining about the winter is the best
Bruce Mowbray: Great Britain is really suffering, you know.
Bruce Mowbray: (from rain, I mean.)
-----: very schadenfreunde =)
Qt Core: they will be abruptly exchanged with people complaining about the hot summer
-----: yep, I'm one of those people
Bruce Mowbray: I love the dramatic winter weather (as I also love the dramatic summer weather)... It's these long spells with snow drifts all over that make me long for spring...)
Bruce Mowbray: Since my typist lives far out in the country, there are things he simply cannot do when the roads are blocked with snow.
Bruce Mowbray: which is also sort of cozy, and hermitish, and nice..
Qt Core: we got a thunderstorm here a couple days ago, a thunderstorm with lightning bolts and thunders... never heard of in February
Bruce Mowbray: (and that gives my typist more appreciation for access to the world that SL offers.)
Bruce Mowbray: Amazing isn't that?! We had a thunderstorm here last week, too!
Bruce Mowbray: In February!
Bruce Mowbray: What else (besides the weather) is on folks' minds today?
Qt Core: as long one was under a roof one could marvel at it at pleasure
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, a roof is good.
Bruce Mowbray: and walls.
--BELL--
Bruce Mowbray: My typist walked across America when he was 34, and MAN OH MAN did he learn to appreciate roofs and walls... although 89 days [nights, actually] sleeping under the stars has a lot to recommend it, too.)
Wester Kiranov: yeah, we people can appreciate power, as long as it isn't directed against us
Zon Kwan: really?
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, really, if that was directed to me, Zon.
Zon Kwan: like Forrest Gump but slower?
Bruce Mowbray: "Power"? as in electric power -- or something else, Wester?
Bruce Mowbray: FG actually ran, yes... I just walked.
Wester Kiranov: As in the power of a thunderstorm. Or big waves in the sea. Or fire.
Bruce Mowbray: AH! YES!
Bruce Mowbray: and MOUNTAINS!
Bruce Mowbray: VOLCANOES!
Bruce Mowbray: EARTHQUAKES!
Bruce Mowbray: TSUNAMIS!
Bruce Mowbray: (better stop with that, before I step on toes....)
Qt Core: the police, the IRS ;-)
Wester Kiranov: :)
Bruce Mowbray: The NSA!
Bruce Mowbray: PUTIN!
Bruce Mowbray: (alas.)
Bruce Mowbray: So, is paranoid the new normal?
Bruce Mowbray: or, are they really out to get us?
Wester Kiranov: well, i wouldn't mind being normal
Bruce Mowbray: Normal has its advantages, for sure....
Bruce Mowbray: (not sure what those are, but perhaps advantages....)
Qt Core: it is surely "cheaper" less to think
Wester Kiranov: i think most of the universe doesn't even notice us
Bruce Mowbray: I am sure that it does not notice us, Wester.
Zon Kwan: who?
Bruce Mowbray: but, when you fit into the "default," things can be easier.
Bruce Mowbray: (as Qt mentioned.)
Qt Core: sometimes even majority can be right, btw
Bruce Mowbray: [My typist rebelled against being a "default person" in his early youth....
Zon Kwan: waves
Bruce Mowbray: and even now he is reaping the benefits of his , shall we call it, "uniqueness."]
Bruce Mowbray: leaving so soon, Zon...
Bruce Mowbray: bye for now, good person!
Wester Kiranov: bye Zon
Qt Core: there were times when being different was the norm, being rebellious
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, my typist lived in Berkeley for seven years...
Wester Kiranov: yes, but even in those groups there are rules about how to be different
Bruce Mowbray: but, he had become unique far earlier than that.
Bruce Mowbray: OH YES, there surely are, Wester.
Bruce Mowbray: Indeed, the "RULES" of out-groups" are often much more stringent than those of in-groups.
Bruce Mowbray: (my personal experience, in fact.)
Qt Core: i agree
Bruce Mowbray: - - - not grokking marijuana in the '60's in Berkeley, for example.
Bruce Mowbray: [My typist was SUCH a square!]
Bruce Mowbray: Do they still use that word - "square"?
Qt Core: who know ;-)
Qt Core: ?
Wester Kiranov: it does sound old-fashioned to me, but English is not my first language
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmm.
Bruce Mowbray: I've not heard the world "square" used in decades....
Bruce Mowbray: so, if I use it, I surely must be "square"!
Bruce Mowbray: (a 60's term - - - and should have remained there!)
--BELL--
Qt Core: i was quite proud of my accomplishments of this week (i just got my gym subscription and went there 3 times in this week) then i heard something about a friend of a friend
Bruce Mowbray: I recall a sociologist wrote a book about such things...
Bruce Mowbray: YES!
Bruce Mowbray: You go, QT!
Qt Core: he is just back from Africa where he did some voluntary work in a very poor area
Bruce Mowbray: a friend of a friend...
Bruce Mowbray: OH DEAR!
Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
Bruce Mowbray listens, carefully.
Qt Core: and reported being asked something like this: "Do you really pay money to lose weight in Europe ?"
Bruce Mowbray: HA!
Bruce Mowbray: Ironic, isn't it!?
Qt Core: yea, made my day :-(
Bruce Mowbray: When having to lose body weight is your problem.... it seems far removed from the millions who starve in other lands, to be sure.
Wester Kiranov: it's possible to be overweight AND undernourished at the same time
Wester Kiranov: read about the Pima Indians sometimes
Bruce Mowbray: Then it gets down to certain "nutritional deficiencies" --
Bruce Mowbray: yes.
Qt Core: on the other hand i hope this will make me work about not wasting that money (and luckily i went to the cheaper gym too, but not for financial reasons)
Bruce Mowbray: GYM is GOOD! I used to go to the gym almost daily when I lived near one....
Bruce Mowbray: But, alas, the nearest gym is now about 20 miles away.
Qt Core: gym is hell, but it is needed
Bruce Mowbray: and, although I need it more, I never go there.
Bruce Mowbray: I used to love going to the gym.
Wester Kiranov: i think sport is a symptom of good health, only partly a cause
Bruce Mowbray: It gave a whole different part of my being a "workout."
Qt Core: the one i go is 2 minutes or maybe even less from home
Bruce Mowbray: GREAT!
Bruce Mowbray: I am happy for you, Qt.
Bruce Mowbray: Please do keep up with your workouts.
Bruce Mowbray ponders "symptoms" and "causes."
Qt Core: i now have to find the right music, Daft Punk are quite good for it
Bruce Mowbray ponders "Daft Punk."
Bruce Mowbray: and also Googles 'Daft Punk.'
Wester Kiranov: people who manage to keep up sports have energy to spare, and this is caused by being in good health
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.daftpunk.com/
Bruce Mowbray: Energy that goes around, apparently comes back around. Your point is well made, Wester.
Wester Kiranov: thanks
Bruce Mowbray: IO think that might be a demonstration of "circulation." Bruce: I*
Qt Core: Io is the Italian for I ;-)
Bruce Mowbray: sending the energy "out," and discovering that it returns.
Bruce Mowbray: Io?
Qt Core: Io
Bruce Mowbray: Like the moon of Jupiter?
Qt Core: yes, same spelling
Bruce Mowbray: Wow!
Bruce Mowbray: And in Spanish, YO!
Bruce Mowbray: or in German, Ich!
Qt Core: and not capitalized (one of the weirdness of English)
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, English does capitalize "proper nouns."
Bruce Mowbray: especially first person singular... "I"
--BELL--
Qt Core: maybe both, i don't know German
Bruce Mowbray: but why not capitalize "you," and they"?
Bruce Mowbray: and "we"?
Qt Core: it doesn't even have another meaning one could mix up with if not capitalized (i always found it a little excessive and i usually don't capitalize it)
Bruce Mowbray: I think that all nouns are capitalized in German, are they not?
Bruce Mowbray: "I" is always capitalized in English, of course.
Bruce Mowbray: (such egotists! -- we are.)
Bruce Mowbray looks at weather radar map to see where the storm is at this time.
Qt Core: strangely i usually think about USA and not UK, in this case ;-)
Bruce Mowbray: Oh yes. USA is mostly egotists.
Bruce Mowbray: FOR SURE!
Bruce Mowbray: USA would rather spend billions on foreign wars than fix its bridges and highways.
Bruce Mowbray: (and schools).
Wester Kiranov: the question is, are there more egotists in the USA than in the non-English speaking world?
Bruce Mowbray: probably no more in the USA, Wester. But we know the tree by its fruit....
Bruce Mowbray: and the USA has a lot of ego-like fruit.
Qt Core: maybe closet egotists as USA has (or think to have) the power to back it
Bruce Mowbray: (which might be due to the USA's power, to link back to something you said earlier....)
Bruce Mowbray: Power seems to "corrupt."
Bruce Mowbray: and absolute power, absolutely.
Bruce Mowbray: (not to be original on that one!)
Wester Kiranov yawns
Bruce Mowbray: I think Qt and I were thinking the same thought at the same time.
Wester Kiranov: I'm getting tired
Bruce Mowbray: If aggers were here, she'd have said "SNAP!"
Bruce Mowbray: Me too, Wester.
Bruce Mowbray: Be thee well!
Bruce Mowbray: and rest well!
Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now.
Qt Core: bye Wester sleep well
Bruce Mowbray: Please come back soon!
Wester Kiranov: so see you later & sleep well
Wester Kiranov: bye
Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now.
Bruce Mowbray: I should probably be going, too. My typist is poking me to scrape up supper.
Bruce Mowbray: I offered him a steak dinner, but he's a vegan.
Bruce Mowbray: He eats steamed rice and veggies every night.
Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
Bruce Mowbray: B_O_R_I_N_G.....
Qt Core: thinking about a saying about power... power wears out... he who don't have it
Bruce Mowbray listens carefully.
Bruce Mowbray: ...
Bruce Mowbray: I'm guessing that it also wears out the person who DOES have it.
Bruce Mowbray: as Shakespeare said, "Heavy is the head that wears the crown."
Bruce Mowbray: I bid you a pleasant weekend, Qt!
Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now.
Qt Core: ty, Bruce have fun and rice is good, never boring
Bruce Mowbray: Rice is VERY good!
Bruce Mowbray: Be well!
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