2016.01.07 13:00 - TSK Session: Introduction and Vision

The Guardians for this meeting were Eliza and Mick. Attending as well, were: Stevenaia, Riddle, Arabella, Kori, Agatha, Wol, Bleu, Bruce, Darren, Santoshima, Catrinamonblue and Eden

**Please remember that we can comment on the pages made specifically for these sessions, and that others will be participating in different ways:
Eliza Madrigal: https://wiki.playasbeing.org/index.php?title=Classes_and_Sessions/Time,_Space,_and_Knowledge/2016.01.07_-_Introduction_%26_Exercises_Overview <--this is for today's session, comments until next week

Before session, Cat expressed finding the Forward difficult, and I agreed...

Eliza Madrigal: Cat, you may appreciate this snippet about Herbert V. Guenther who wrote the Forward: "Günther was a pioneer in addressing contemporary philosophical issues from a deep and learned Buddhist perspective. His work is well known for being difficult to read. Defenders have argued that because both Buddhist and European philosophies have built up rich vocabularies and conceptual systems derived from over the centuries, any attempt at synthesis is necessarily complicated." (wikipedia)

Catrinamonblue Resident: ty :) that's helpful :)

[sections moved and placed at end for clarity]
 

Beginning...

Eliza Madrigal: Okay, for those who didn't get a chance to read Guardians Session...
Agatha Macbeth: Bleuji :)
Riddle Sideways: hi bLeu
Bleu Oleander: hi y'all :)
Eliza Madrigal: this first session is about sharing our personal impressions of the introduction pages
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu :)
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Bleu.
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Bleu :)
Mickorod Renard: Bleu
Darren Islar: hi Bleu
Agatha Macbeth: Still love the hair
Eliza Madrigal: I'd like to go around the circle and begin in a casual way, with everyone sharing where they are - meaning, what have you read, what is your sense about what you've read, etc. Also whether you have familiarity with the material already
Eliza Madrigal: Does that seem okay to start?
Agatha Macbeth: Aye
Mickorod Renard: aye
Wol Euler nods.
stevenaia Michinaga: pick a starting point
Bleu Oleander: sure
Riddle Sideways: k
Darren Islar: sure
Eliza Madrigal: the beginning pages deal with the vision of TSK, so it would be good to know impressions of what that vision is, to each of us
Eliza Madrigal: Mick can we start with you?
Mickorod Renard: eeek
Mickorod Renard: ok
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: ty!
Agatha Macbeth: Hi San
Eliza Madrigal: Hi San :)
Darren Islar: hi San

Mick

Mickorod Renard: well..I have read up to the chapter one these last few days
Mickorod Renard: but did read the book before
Mickorod Renard: I wouldnt like to say what the vision is as per the book cos i would get it wrong
Mickorod Renard: but
Darren Islar: heh :)
Mickorod Renard: it seems to me,,that by taking oneself out of the normal thought pattern,,and sort of taking time to observe brings one more space and clarity
Mickorod Renard: and reminded me alot of phenemology
Wol Euler nods.
Eliza Madrigal nods
Agatha Macbeth loves phenemology
Mickorod Renard: so I sort of reflected a bit and became hungry to get on more with the book
Mickorod Renard: I will stop there if thats ok
Eliza Madrigal: sure

Stevenaia

Eliza Madrigal: Stevie?
stevenaia Michinaga: I feel like somewhat a skeptic, perhaps not the only one, I see a path but not sure where it's heading. It tries to explain yet I really do not know where this will take me. Like getting in a car for road trip but forgot to ask where we are going so I will just (hopefully) enjoy the ride and lean much along the way. I thank PaB for at least warming me up with some of the terminology. I'll let you know when I think I am lost
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eliza Madrigal: thanks
Eliza Madrigal: Darren?

Darren

Darren Islar: I am a buddhist within the tradition of the Gelug, which is the bigggest Tibetan school. Nyingma is the oldest and Tarthang Tulku is one of their great scholars, so I'm not totally lost in the concepts presented. I work mostly with space myself, in the most clumsy way probably :)
Mickorod Renard: cough
Darren Islar: I'm very eager to see how those three 'things' will come together in the different exercises he gives, so looking forward to it
Darren Islar: so far it has been a really good read
Darren Islar: done
Eliza Madrigal: great, ty

Kori

Eliza Madrigal: Kori, I know that you were unaware of the sessions until today, but is there anything you'd like to say?

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: :) yes definitely, thank you
Eliza Madrigal: Cat?

Cat

Catrinamonblue Resident: I read the preface and enjoyed that, the forward stumped me... maybe I'm just dense and not able to get it...... I did read a bit of the exercises and they sound interesting....... I'm just a baby with all this and have not yet found time to dedicate to trying to understand it at all. Not sure if time would help or not ;)
Catrinamonblue Resident: done :)
Eliza Madrigal: (Cat and I were sharing a little before session, that even in his wikipedia page, Herbert V. Guenther is considered "difficult to read." :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Herbert the fifth?
Eliza Madrigal: I'll come back to me...
Eliza Madrigal: Agatha?
Darren Islar: it is, I'm glad Tarthang Tulku is much clearer

Agatha

Agatha Macbeth: Believe it or not I only recently realised there was a book!
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Which makes me wonder what I was doing during the sessions at the café
Eliza Madrigal: lol
Agatha Macbeth: Anyway, maybe I'll pick it up as i go along
Eliza Madrigal: ((aggers)))
Agatha Macbeth: ((Me))
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eliza Madrigal giggling...
Eliza Madrigal: Wol?
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Agatha Macbeth: (Hope she's awake)
Wol Euler: y

Wol

Wol Euler: I'm glad somebody else said they found Herbert hard work ... quite ofputting. Tarthang Tulku was much clearer. I read most of the introductroy pages, skipped the exercises as they seemed out of place, requiring knowledge we haven't acquired yet
Wol Euler: I enjoyed the intro, was reassured by the echoes of phenomenology and PaB and discussions with Pema
Wol Euler: looking forward to the readings
Agatha Macbeth: Ara :))
Wol Euler: (done)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ara, welcome :)
Mickorod Renard: hi Ara
Eliza Madrigal: ty Wol!
Darren Islar: hi Ara
Agatha Macbeth: Bella Ara
Riddle Sideways: hi Ara
arabella Ella: Hiya :)

Riddle

Riddle Sideways: first time reader, long time admirer of TSK
Eliza Madrigal: Riddle, you're up
Riddle Sideways: bought the back-ordered book, canceled order and bought used copy, still wiating for that copy to arrive.
Riddle Sideways: bought the Kindle version and read up to chapter one
Riddle Sideways: liked that the "Vision" was a thousand pages
Bleu Oleander: :)
Riddle Sideways: and Stev worked on it, down to 60 pages :))
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe a Tolkenian vision
Riddle Sideways: The preface is very complicated to read.
Riddle Sideways: mostly sounds like Play as Being
Riddle Sideways: done
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal: ty
Eliza Madrigal: Bruce?

Bruce

Bruce Mowbray: Well, one thing I've been fascinated by for many years is the notion of "expanded mind...." No matter how "focused" I am on some specific idea or thing, I can always go to a larger vision (meta-thinking?). And.... the "vision" of this book, which I've read a few times and look forward to reading again, seems to be expanding our minds beyond the conventional understandings of "space" and "time" that we normally interpret as causal of, or competing with, or even negating to each other. When I did the exercises, a few years ago, I actually became ecstatic doing many of them.
Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
arabella Ella smiles
Bruce Mowbray: I would strongly encourage everyone to DO the exercises -- not just read and think about them. Enough from me for now. Really looking forward to hearing how others experience the book's vision.
Bruce Mowbray: [done]4
Mickorod Renard: :)
Eliza Madrigal: ty :)
Eliza Madrigal: Bleu?
Bleu Oleander: kk

Bleu

Bleu Oleander: just finished my 3rd reading ... its been raining all week here :)
Eliza Madrigal: oh wow
Agatha Macbeth: In Arizona?
Darren Islar: hehe
Bleu Oleander: If I might put a couple of quotes here
Bleu Oleander: that are the vision for me

Bleu Oleander: “as a unified view of existence, this vision can perhaps make possible the lived-out experience of the full spectrum of human values — of what it means to be a human being.” “As our perception of time and space opens, we can begin to see and appreciate a new kind of knowledge, a knowledge beyond duality and dichotomies, which is all pervasive. with this knowledge we can learn to see the playfulness of all situations; we can open to the natural tendency of our energies to flow toward the exploration of the understanding and beauty - toward the deeper values of humanity”

Bleu Oleander: I didn't really engage with the book the first 2 times
Bleu Oleander: but I did this time
Bleu Oleander: and now my copy looks like its been thru a war zone lol
Bleu Oleander: ok done
Eliza Madrigal: haha
Eliza Madrigal: yes mine too :)
Eliza Madrigal: Ara?
Mickorod Renard: nice Bleu...I have been pondering on what humanity is,,as an entity within ourselves
arabella Ella: Hi
Agatha Macbeth: WB

Arabella

arabella Ella: i cannot really say much yet although I was here first time around some years back
arabella Ella: and i am looking forward to a second exploration
Agatha Macbeth: You too eh
arabella Ella: as I feel it would be great for us at PaB to get back to some of our original roots
arabella Ella: yes Aggers :)
Agatha Macbeth: :)
arabella Ella: done :)

Eliza Madrigal: ty Ara
Eliza Madrigal: San?
Santoshima Resident: a sec
Eliza Madrigal: sure

San

Santoshima Resident: well.
Santoshima Resident: have read once before
Santoshima Resident: and have had some time to reflect
Santoshima Resident: reading again
Santoshima Resident: is a joy
Santoshima Resident: had been studying another text by Tarthang Tulku over the past month
Santoshima Resident: on Tibetan Yoga

--BELL--

Santoshima Resident: and am happy to bring the two books together in a reading& practice way.
Santoshima Resident: was glad to see the list summary of exercises
Santoshima Resident: and am glad to be reading and discussing this text together with all of you.
Santoshima Resident: ...
Santoshima Resident: another quote:

Santoshima Resident: once our perception before and with us is sufficiently open, all experience can be seen as the dynamic play of Space, Time, and Knowledge. The inherent beauty of appearance, which is the dance of Time , Space and Knowledge, unfolds naturally we can then directly experience our being, which expresses itself as a dynamic and complete freedom. in this way we can discover what it means to be truly human."

Santoshima Resident: (sorry for the typos)
Santoshima Resident: done
Riddle Sideways: hi eDen
Agatha Macbeth: Edie :)
Mickorod Renard: Eden
Bruce Mowbray waves to Eden.
Bleu Oleander: hi Eden :)
Wol Euler: I'll send you a notecard with what we said, Eden
Darren Islar: hi eden
Eden Haiku: slips in quietly...
Eliza Madrigal: yes that's beautiful, San. Is that from the epilogue?
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eden :)

Mickorod Renard: I like the references to finding human or humanity....in other words what defines us from other things or what

Eliza

Eliza Madrigal: thanks Wol, and I'll come back to you in a little while too Eden :) we've so far just been sharing initial feelings about the beginning pages, and the vision of TSK
Mickorod Renard: but that we may have become lost from seeing our humanity
Eliza Madrigal: My reading this time, at least so far, is much more grounded than before
Eliza Madrigal: and it is that part... that connecting of the vision with our humanity, that seems to shine out brightly
Eliza Madrigal: what came forward really clearly to me was a joy that comes from our direct experience
Eliza Madrigal: It isn’t about trying to reach or achieve some kind of heaven that is better than the earth, or degrading the importance of our daily concerns, but about balance…
Eliza Madrigal: a quote from me too:

Eliza Madrigal: We have limitless possibilities to find fulfillment and satisfactioin in or lives and in our relationships with one another. By learning to directly contact the essence of our being {experience},we can discover an unbounded freedom which is not only a freedom from some external restraint, but is itself the dynamic expression of the meaning and value of being human. Once this intrinsic freedom becomes a lived reality, then all other freedoms naturally follow.

Eliza Madrigal: Eden, would you like to say something about your impressions or approach? :)

Eden

Eden Haiku: Still trying to find my copy of TSK from years ago...I will just listen for now :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eliza Madrigal: OK

Eliza Madrigal: So maybe we can start with any questions that arose?

What questions arose?

Darren Islar: the humanity part actually shocked me, though I don't know why
Eliza Madrigal: shocked? that's interesting
Bleu Oleander: a question for me became "what is knowledge?"
Riddle Sideways: Great Knowledge or little knowledge?
Eliza Madrigal: it is strange to think about the layers of knowledge... world of objects, world of measurements, and then Great Knowledge as described... seeing without seeing 'things'
Darren Islar: it's about using our abilities as a human, and I'm surprised I apparently didn't pick that up ... being human also means to be stuck to a body in time and space
Bleu Oleander: not wanting an answer, just to contemplate
Eliza Madrigal: I felt as though being fully human was being held in a more transcendent way
Darren Islar: I guess as human we have the ability to connect with that yes
Catrinamonblue Resident: I still feel very much as if all of this is way above me..... I'm just little me clunking along the road, kicking up dust
Bleu Oleander: for me, the book was about investigating our inner landscapes, that part of our humanity that is the mind
Wol Euler: oh but we all are Cat :) that's the point
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Riddle Sideways: at least you are still kicking
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Riddle Sideways: shhhhhhh bell

--BELL--

Catrinamonblue Resident: lol :)
Wol Euler: I was reminded of talking with Pema about TSK on a retreat, where he said that in his opinion "Knowledge" is misleading as it has a strong flavour of thought and analysis; he suggested TSA = Appreciation as in APAB
Darren Islar: it's why we're here
Bruce Mowbray has a wonderful vision of Cat . . . ecstatic in the fullness of her road and her dust.
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Mickorod Renard: its been haunting me for a while........I think its because we are sensitive people here,,but we see a harshnss in the world that seems alien,,,,i think its the inhumanity
Riddle Sideways: yes Mick
Darren Islar: alien is a nice word
Catrinamonblue Resident: I like that Wol :) the word knowledge is a bit daunting....
arabella Ella: Wol is there more you could say about appreciation as opposed to knowledge as I too have a vague recollection of something along those lines but the memory is barely coherent
Eliza Madrigal: One of the fun parts of Guenther's writing, was describing how usual approach is either a covering of object or covering of subject, and how the vision desires to restore balance... include awareness of subject, etc. I was really thankful for having grappled with Pema's you seeing/Being seeing exercises. :)
Wol Euler: yes it occurred during that

Darren Islar: being human confines us as well ... not sure appreciation is saying the same thing as knowledge
Wol Euler: I'm full of jetlag so I may have to shelve the question to next week, sorry
arabella Ella: no worries i understand Wol :)
Mickorod Renard: no rush Wol..lovely u r here
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Eliza Madrigal: appreciation does seem central, as there is nothing to grasp, yet much to appreciate.... all things accomodated
Darren Islar: that's the thing I guess, appreciation can be grasping as well, knowledge is more neutral
Mickorod Renard: that sounds good Eliza

Bruce Mowbray: I think it's important to let the book's themes work on you in sequence.... we don't really get INTO knowledge until later. . . . I mean, baby steps might be indicated.
Wol Euler: right
Eliza Madrigal: but I like your clarifications Darren. Humanity is uniquely situated, in a sense
Wol Euler: let's assume that the structure is worthwhile and follow it
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, agrees with Wol on that.
Darren Islar: agreed
Catrinamonblue Resident: will trust in the process :)
Bleu Oleander: will trust in Eliza to keep us in line :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :-D
Eliza Madrigal: :))

Eliza Madrigal: Bruce would you say more about the exercises? Thinking about what San mentioned, for me one key was moving the attention from my intellect to bodily understanding... so the exercises seem key.
Riddle Sideways: glad to see 'Appearance' come early in the book/process. have wrestled with that since APAB
Bruce Mowbray: Each element of the vision - each step in the sequence - has its own quality of "enoughness..."
Mickorod Renard: i like the idea that Apreciation doesnt need to involve taking or possesing or it having value,,just appreciation is in itself reward
Bleu Oleander: mind and body are one for me
Eliza Madrigal: for some it may be much more natural. I had to wrestle a bit :)
Bruce Mowbray: The exercises surely ARE key, Eliza.
stevenaia Michinaga: is that the next step for next week? Exercise 1, hop in the car shut the doors and off we go?
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Darren Islar: I think you're pinpointing at what I mean Bleu ... the body may set us free thoughtwise, but it is confining in space
Bruce Mowbray: !!
stevenaia Michinaga: one of those driverless vehicles
stevenaia Michinaga: that reads

The session zipped by. When I glanced at the clock we had less than 7 minutes...

Eliza Madrigal: Oh wow... we should already discuss next week!
Riddle Sideways: :)
Bruce Mowbray: You see, Cat, we're all clunking along with you. . . . :)
Riddle Sideways: time management kicks in
Eliza Madrigal: https://wiki.playasbeing.org/Classes_and_Sessions/Time%2c_Space%2c_and_Knowledge/2016.01.14_-_Beginning_with_the_Presence_of_Space
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: that's the Play part

Eliza Madrigal: First, please remember that we can comment on the pages I've made for these sessions
Eliza Madrigal: and that others will be participating in different ways
Eliza Madrigal: https://wiki.playasbeing.org/index.php?title=Classes_and_Sessions/Time,_Space,_and_Knowledge/2016.01.07_-_Introduction_%26_Exercises_Overview <--this is for today's session, comments until next week

Riddle Sideways: oh good that is not a session log that happenz next week and is recorded already
stevenaia Michinaga: so organized,...thanks Eliza
Eden Haiku: :)
Eliza Madrigal: the idea is to structure a bit like we've done for SL retreats
Eliza Madrigal: so that we can, like Great Space, include everyone ^^
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
arabella Ella: sounds great to me Eliza :)

Darren Islar: this sessions gets recorded and published?
Eliza Madrigal: And we have two weeks for the first chapter, plus being able to adjust when necessary
Eliza Madrigal: yes Darren
Eliza Madrigal: there may also be night time study sessions
Eliza Madrigal: but we're waiting to hear from Daedalus about that
arabella Ella: night time? time zone?
Agatha Macbeth: It's night time now :p
Eliza Madrigal: 7pm slt
Agatha Macbeth: Zzzz
Eliza Madrigal: yes.... going by SL time :)
Eliza Madrigal: we choose from many kinds of time :)
stevenaia Michinaga: Hoping Daedalus shows up tonight for the 7:00
Bleu Oleander: great time hehe
Agatha Macbeth: My tardis is parked nearby
Eliza Madrigal grins
Mickorod Renard: he he

What Now...

Eliza Madrigal: So we should move into Chapter 1 now...
Eliza Madrigal: The Presence of Space - Openness and Solid Surfaces

 Things are not only pervaded by space in an ordinary sense, they also are Great Space - infinite, open, and not excluding other things from being. Great Space does not become some thing. Nothing rises out of it. Great Space remains infinite, accomodates everything, and yet 'sets up' nothing and does nothing.

Eliza Madrigal: That's a little paragraph singled out at the end of the chapter, which has such a wonderful feeling to taste and ponder
Wol Euler nods.
Bleu Oleander: is this for next week?
Riddle Sideways: spoiler
Eliza Madrigal: we'll be closer to the first exercise, after next week's session

Wol Euler: we could probably spend a session just on the difference between space and things ...
Wol Euler: or the thingness of space
Eliza Madrigal: yes Bleu
Eden Haiku: trailer...
Bleu Oleander: ok thanks
Eliza Madrigal: that's a very good idea
Eliza Madrigal: hah
Riddle Sideways: space - the final frontier
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Bleu Oleander: space - the next frontier!
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: 'Ere

--BELL--

Mickorod Renard: ooo i
Eden Haiku: Will seeing Star Wars, the force awakens be an homework?
Agatha Macbeth: Are you going to sing Mick?
Mickorod Renard: no way
Agatha Macbeth: Whew
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Bruce Mowbray: Doing Exercise 1 (actually at the beginning of Chapter 2) will help you feel Great Space . . . But maybe I'm jumping ahead.

Eliza Madrigal: btw I'll be trying to keep us on track, but there is so much wisdom in this group and so many beautiful angles, that I hope to go spaciously
Mickorod Renard: well,,that was a nice opening session Eliza,,thankyou
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, thanks so much, Eliza.
Wol Euler: yes, thank you
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: claps
Bruce Mowbray: and thanks to each and every one.
Eden Haiku: Thanks
Bleu Oleander: thank you Eliza :)
Agatha Macbeth read 'beautiful angels' there
Riddle Sideways: liza is goood at heading cats
Eliza Madrigal: thanks Mick. I'll get the session posted soon and try to highlight questions and comments we might want to consider more
Eliza Madrigal smiles at Aggers
Darren Islar: thanks Eliza and everyone
Eliza Madrigal: ty <3
Wol Euler nods.
Eliza Madrigal: @Eden too bad we can't screen the film in SL :))
Agatha Macbeth: ♥♥
Riddle Sideways: is Wol asleep already?
Eden Haiku: :)))
Eliza Madrigal: Wol needs to be asleep
Agatha Macbeth pokes her
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: quick Mick, sing a lullabye
Wol Euler: yes, I do :)
Bruce Mowbray: G'nigt, Wol.
Wol Euler: goodnight all, it's lovely to be back
Riddle Sideways: wb
Catrinamonblue Resident: Night Wol, sleep tight :)
Eliza Madrigal: Night Wol
Bleu Oleander: nite nite
Wol Euler waves and poofs away
Bruce Mowbray: Welcome home, too!
Mickorod Renard: he he mm that would wake her up
Eden Haiku: Night Wol :)
Santoshima Resident: bye wol
Santoshima Resident: and everyone ~ steady on
Eden Haiku: Thanks again for the note :)
Darren Islar: night everyone
Mickorod Renard: bye all that are leaving
Bleu Oleander: take care all
Eliza Madrigal: take care and sweet dreams
Eliza Madrigal: happy reading
Riddle Sideways: Edan, the farse awakens was last year's assignment
Catrinamonblue Resident: bye all :)
Riddle Sideways: by All
Eliza Madrigal: very nice to hear from everyone
Eden Haiku: bye everyone. Will search my bookcases again :)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eliza Madrigal: bye Eden, glad you made it
Bleu Oleander: byeee
Eliza Madrigal: bfn
Mickorod Renard: hey
Eliza Madrigal: feels really nice
Mickorod Renard: yes, a good turn out
Eliza Madrigal: Okay am off....thanks so much
stevenaia Michinaga: great seeing everyone
Mickorod Renard: bye Eliza
Agatha Macbeth: Love to George
Mickorod Renard: thanks
Agatha Macbeth: Next week then
stevenaia Michinaga: great seeing everyone
Mickorod Renard: woof to george

Agatha Macbeth: How are things Ara?

Agatha Macbeth: Never found your old hair I see
arabella Ella: given up looking Ags
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
arabella Ella: and this hair which you gave he is great i think
Agatha Macbeth: Must have been 'no copy'
arabella Ella: maybe one day i will have more time for these things :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Agatha Macbeth: Busy us eh
arabella Ella: yes i try to keep busy when i can
arabella Ella: how are you?
arabella Ella: long time no see
Agatha Macbeth: Oh still here :p
Agatha Macbeth: Think I'm a fixture now
arabella Ella: a lovely fixture if thats what you want to call your presence here :)
arabella Ella: love your piroiettes
Agatha Macbeth: Aww Ty
arabella Ella: may i hum?
Agatha Macbeth: Yes this is actually a skating AO
arabella Ella: besame, besame mucho, la la la
Agatha Macbeth: Without skates!
arabella Ella: cool
Agatha Macbeth: Works well
Mickorod Renard: he he
arabella Ella: so clever
Mickorod Renard: onignoko
arabella Ella: he he
Agatha Macbeth: Shame no pond to skate on now
arabella Ella: i was wondering about ice skating this week as we dont have it here and whenever i see it in other european countries it is so fascinating
Mickorod Renard: onigokko
Agatha Macbeth: Wah
Mickorod Renard: stop
arabella Ella: owwwww Micko what have you done to me!!!!!??????
Mickorod Renard: :)
Agatha Macbeth: K must be AFK
Agatha Macbeth: Heh
Mickorod Renard: just wondered how it wud efect skates
Korel Laloix: Back.
Agatha Macbeth: Oh it overrides any AO I think
Mickorod Renard: hi
Agatha Macbeth: WB
Mickorod Renard: nice outfit ags
Agatha Macbeth: Bye
Mickorod Renard: bye Ags
Mickorod Renard: take care
arabella Ella: r u off?
Agatha Macbeth: Yes I saw a friend wearing it and had to have one
Mickorod Renard: ohh Kori went
arabella Ella: good night
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: Yes K went to the happy hunting grounds
Mickorod Renard: cant imagine how you get in it
Agatha Macbeth: After the buffalo
arabella Ella: oh she did it seems
Agatha Macbeth: Talc helps
Agatha Macbeth grins
arabella Ella smiles
Agatha Macbeth: Anyway time to move on
Agatha Macbeth: See you next week hopefully
Mickorod Renard: yeppers, guess I should be moving on
Mickorod Renard: bye Ags
arabella Ella: yes good night aggers!

from beginning:

Catrinamonblue Resident: :) paper copy hasn't come in but got it on kindle...
Eliza Madrigal: I like the Kindle version. My other copies of the book are all falling apart
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: I generally like paper copies of books :) I tend to fold corners and write notes :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: there is one book that I really love, but it has a lot of footnotes. Trying to read that on Kindle was awful, trying to switch back and forth, etc
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: ack. I remolded my whole head but you can still see my scalp, haha
Catrinamonblue Resident: :) I hadn't noticed :) I have pulled the camera back for a wider view
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: but now of course I'll have to have a look see :)
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Kori :)
Eliza Madrigal waves to Kori

Eliza Madrigal: How are you doing, Kori? at work now?
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, Happy Merry
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: what will you do to celebrate?
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aggers :)
Agatha Macbeth: Greetings
Catrinamonblue Resident: HI Aggers :)
Agatha Macbeth: No Mick yet
Eliza Madrigal: Not yet. Still early
Agatha Macbeth: For him yes :p
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Wollie ♥
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Wol :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Wol :))
Eliza Madrigal: How feeling?
Wol Euler: evening all! happy new-ish year
Wol Euler: jetlaggy, just got home this afternoon
Eliza Madrigal: Happy New Year! You look like a swan today ^^
Agatha Macbeth: Still in the Arctic wastes, or back home yet?
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Riddle :)
Wol Euler: so I'm not sure how much sense I'll make today
Agatha Macbeth: Aha
Riddle Sideways: hi All
Agatha Macbeth nods and grins
Eliza Madrigal: just glad you made it
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Rid
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: laggy Wol :)
Wol Euler: hang on, I haven't got my book ...
Wol Euler: yeah RL laggy :)
Eliza Madrigal: I'm not jetlagged and will probably still not make sense :P
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Agatha Macbeth: But we will still love you for it
Riddle Sideways: sense of what?
Eliza Madrigal: that's a whole 'nother question, hah
Agatha Macbeth: Liz sense is a special kind of sense
Eliza Madrigal: ^.^
Riddle Sideways: thanks Eliza (and Mick) for making us read a book
Eliza Madrigal: Is this the first time you've attended TSK sessions Riddle?
Eliza Madrigal: Time Space Knowledge, Kori
Riddle Sideways: they start today or already
Riddle Sideways: yes
Eliza Madrigal: today, but years ago there were some too
Agatha Macbeth: Darren :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Darren :))
Darren Islar: hi everyone
Riddle Sideways: might need a refresher on rules, laws, ediquict
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Riddle Sideways: speeling
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Stevenaia
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Steve
Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bruce :))
Agatha Macbeth: And Brucie :)
stevenaia Michinaga: Greetings and Happy New Year to all
Wol Euler: hello bruce, stevie, riddle, everyone
Darren Islar: hi Stevenaia, Bruce
Agatha Macbeth: Aye the noo
--BELL--
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, everyone!
Agatha Macbeth: And here's Mick!
Eliza Madrigal: Hiya Mick!
Mickorod Renard: ayup me ducks
Agatha Macbeth: With drambuie no doubt
Wol Euler: 'appen.
Agatha Macbeth: Aye
Catrinamonblue Resident: wow I turn away from the screen for a moment and lots of arrivals :)
Mickorod Renard: arr, everyone ok?
Darren Islar: hi Mick
Catrinamonblue Resident: hi to all :)
Mickorod Renard: :)
Agatha Macbeth: They all came for you Cat ^.^
Eliza Madrigal: yes, well. So nice to have such a full session
Riddle Sideways: hi to All those not already wished such
stevenaia Michinaga: we are a punctual lot
Catrinamonblue Resident: sweeetttt :)
Eliza Madrigal: I'm not sure if more will arrive... do see other guardians on friends' list but maybe have other activities :)
Eliza Madrigal: so giving just a few minutes
Wol Euler nods.
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe send a group IM to prompt?
Eliza Madrigal: Darren, I think you missed the pillow?
Mickorod Renard: lovely to see so many faces already
Eliza Madrigal: it is
Darren Islar: pillow?
Agatha Macbeth: I thought Daedalus would be here
Mickorod Renard: hey Kori...he he
Eliza Madrigal: cushion... but maybe it is just my view
Eliza Madrigal: Daedalus can't make daytime sessions
Eliza Madrigal: due to work
Darren Islar: I'm sort of lying on it
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Eliza Madrigal: so he may host a night time one
Agatha Macbeth: Hopefully he will read the log
Eliza Madrigal: yes he will
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Eliza Madrigal: :)