2016.01.18 07:00 - Gilgamesh

The Guardian for this meeting was Eden Haiku. The comments are by Eden Haiku.

Bleu Oleander

Love, loss, immortality, legacy

Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
Eden Haiku: Good morning Bleu :)
Bleu Oleander: good morning Eden :)
Bleu Oleander: how are you?
Eden Haiku: Fine, thanks. How are you?
Bleu Oleander: great thanks!
Bleu Oleander: just listened to a fascinating conversation on the epic "Gilgamesh"
Eden Haiku: Your hair is so beautiful, fluffy and colorful. I have been wanting to take a picture for weeks. Now I did!
Bleu Oleander: hehe ty!
Eden Haiku: Yes, one of the oldest stories, if not the oldest :)
Bleu Oleander: still worth reading today!
Eden Haiku: Never did....did you?
Bleu Oleander: yes, a few times
Bleu Oleander: I really love it
Bleu Oleander: there are many translations of course
Eden Haiku: What is it about?
Bleu Oleander: love, loss, immortality, legacy ... has a bit of everything in it
Bleu Oleander: friendship, hubris
Eden Haiku: Ah!!!
Bleu Oleander: very rich
Eden Haiku: A Mesopotamian tale is it?
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: Uruk
Bleu Oleander: Gilgamesh was the king of Uruk
Eden Haiku: So many books and stories still to read :)
Bleu Oleander: yes!
Eden Haiku: What was the point of the conversation you listened to?
Bleu Oleander: one point was about the quest for immortality
Bleu Oleander: and how heroes achieve that
Eden Haiku: Oh! Interesting...
Bleu Oleander: for Gilgamesh, he ultimately builds a wall for his city
Eden Haiku: Went to a conference a few days ago in Montreal
Bleu Oleander: and so lives by his legacy
Bleu Oleander: on what?
Eden Haiku: I was making a link with immortality. It was a few days ago, Friday
Eden Haiku: By the Dr Michael Greger
Eden Haiku: He wrote a book called "How not to Die"
Eden Haiku: ;)
Bleu Oleander: oh interesting
Bleu Oleander: what was his main point?
Eden Haiku: Eating fruits, veggies, grains, beans no meat, no dairy keeps death at bay :)
Bleu Oleander: ah so mainly dietary?

--BELL-

Immortality

Eden Haiku: Yes, about nutrition. The hall was full, more than a thousand people...
Eden Haiku: He sold out his book
Bleu Oleander: we have a salon coming up in february on "ending aging"
Eden Haiku: I bought a paper copy for my niece, a kindle one and audible one for myself.
Bleu Oleander: update on current research
Bleu Oleander: I'll look it up
Eden Haiku: oh, wonderful!
Eden Haiku: He's on the Times best-seller list., A very convincing speaker.
Bleu Oleander: one of my favorite books on immortality is by Stephen Cave, "Immortality"
Eden Haiku: I have been a vegetarian for decades, no dairy products for years but I skipped a lot in Paris (cheese!) and gained weight...:(
Bleu Oleander: we also have a salon on vegetarian diet next month
Eden Haiku: Dr Greger says vegetarian is not enough vegan is the way to go. But it's ok to cook grains and beans and veggies...I tried the "raw" only way of eating but it's tough here, with the cold...
Eden Haiku: Aging is connected to the shortening of the telemeres it seems and this can be reversed with the right foods :)
Bleu Oleander: it depends on which foods ... some are more nutritious raw and some cooked
Eden Haiku: True
Bleu Oleander: cooking can bring out and make accessible some nutrients

Stuck in the world of ancient literature

Eden Haiku: How is your art going Bleu?
Eden Haiku: Are you still creating videos?
Bleu Oleander: I haven't done any lately
Bleu Oleander: not sure where my art interests are going
Eden Haiku: I see...
Bleu Oleander: I'm not as drawn to the virtual world for art at the moment
Eden Haiku: Do you still paint?
Bleu Oleander: yes and may go back to doing more of that
Bleu Oleander: got stuck in the world of ancient literature :)
Bleu Oleander: so much to explore
Eden Haiku: After so many months away from SL, I could tell how it can pull you in and then you have to find your way in RL again :)
Eden Haiku: Ancient literature hum....
Bleu Oleander: wonderful class from Harvard
Eden Haiku: A MOOC?
Bleu Oleander: yes edx.com
Bleu Oleander: the "hero in 24 hours"
Eden Haiku: Started one last year., can't even remember the subject now :)
Bleu Oleander: the class is just starting again
Eden Haiku: Was too busy finishing my novel. Now it's completed. I'm experiencing a kind of "baby blues'
Bleu Oleander: when will your novel be released?

--BELL--

4000 years later...

Bleu Oleander: you will have to let us know!
Eden Haiku: In a few months :)
Bleu Oleander: wonderful
Eden Haiku: Yes, I will. But it will take about a year to be translated into English:)
Bleu Oleander: ah ok
Bleu Oleander: I wish I had paid better attention in my French classes!!
Eden Haiku: I was thinking of making videos of me reading the book online, like 10 minutes at a time.
Bleu Oleander: oh nice idea!
Eden Haiku: But that would be in French...And I have many skills to acquire before I can do that :)
Bleu Oleander: you could record an audio version of the book?
Eden Haiku: And I have to ask permission to the publisher to do that. Pretty sure he will grant it though.
Bleu Oleander: I have a friend who does that ... tedious work!
Bleu Oleander: maybe will do it for you?
Bleu Oleander: so many books have audio versions now
Bleu Oleander: audible.com
Eden Haiku: Yes, I have Greger's book on audible. It's very nice to listen to.
Eden Haiku: So many many projects...
Eden Haiku: The publisher does both paper and digital publishing of the book.
Bleu Oleander: great
Eden Haiku: But that takes a while.
Eden Haiku: I'm kind of afraid the world will change so much in the lapse my book will be out of sync :(
Bleu Oleander: things change so fast
Eden Haiku: As it's a book about time I wrote on a span of 6 years...
Eden Haiku: It does change so fast...
Bleu Oleander: but look at "Gilgamesh" 4,000 year later :)

[Here I pause, wondering if i wiill still be read in 4,000 years from now :)]

Eden Haiku: Right, it's reassuring...[It seems I'm not so sure...]
Bleu Oleander: time is a timeless topic
Eden Haiku: There were 6 persons from Quebec who died in Ouagadoudou terrorist attacks...
Bleu Oleander: we will talk about time in the TSK sessions soon
Eden Haiku: Teachers who went helping build a school during their winter holidays....
Bleu Oleander: yes I saw that
Eden Haiku: Time yes, in TSK, I will read the sessions.
Bleu Oleander: did you find your copy yet?
Eden Haiku: Nope :(
Bleu Oleander: I hate to lose a book
Eden Haiku: I think I gave it away...
Bleu Oleander: I write so many notes in many of my books
Bleu Oleander: hard to give them away for me
Eden Haiku: Thinking "Ah those TSK days are over at PaB..." How wrong I was :)

--BELL--

Eden Haiku: Yes, I have much too many books for the space I have but I keep buying them. Sometimes, I brace myself to part with some of them then I always regret it :)
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Eden Haiku: I could get a Kindle copy but then, I'm not sure if I want to wet my toes in these waters
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eden Haiku: Sorry bell, I have been very talkative:(
Bleu Oleander: ha ha!
Bleu Oleander: well I must get going
Bleu Oleander: busy day here
Bleu Oleander: fun talking with you!
Bleu Oleander: take care
Eden Haiku: Was nice to see you Bleu. Have a great day!
Bleu Oleander: you too!
Eden Haiku: Thank you
Bleu Oleander: byeee
Eden Haiku: Bye dear