2016.10.18 13:00 - Siddhartha tales :Svasti

Today we discussed a story we all read from the Bodhitales website http://www.bodhitales.org/svasti.php

about Siddhartha and a boy called Svasti. Please feel free to look it up.

 

 

[13:00] Aph (aphrodite.macbain) is online.

[13:01] Mickorod Renard: Hi Druth

[13:01] druth Vlodovic: hey mick

[13:01] druth Vlodovic: how is things?

[13:01] Mickorod Renard: wow, I have a guest..he he ..I thought I was going to be on my own

[13:01] Zen (zen.arado) is online.

[13:01] Mickorod Renard: all good thanks, how about you?

[13:02] Mickorod Renard: Hi Aph

[13:02] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Hiya!

[13:02] Mickorod Renard: nice to see you

[13:02] druth Vlodovic: I saw something about siddhartha and couldn't resist

[13:02] druth Vlodovic: hi aph :)

[13:02] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): ditto

[13:02] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): :-)

[13:02] Mickorod Renard: great

[13:02] Mickorod Renard: Hi Zen

[13:02] druth Vlodovic: hmm, now we are attracting great crowds

[13:02] Mickorod Renard: well..we have a group

[13:02] druth Vlodovic: hey zen

[13:03] Zen (zen.arado): Hi Mick, druth, Aph

[13:03] Mickorod Renard: I was getting worried

[13:03] Mickorod Renard: he he

[13:03] Mickorod Renard: shall we give it a few more mins?

[13:03] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): why not?

[13:03] druth Vlodovic: nobody arrives early in SL, though the "fashionably late" window is only about five minutes

[13:04] Mickorod Renard: great

[13:04] Mickorod Renard: somewhere i have a lil notecard

[13:05] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): I read what you sent

[13:05] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): nice little story

[13:06] Mickorod Renard: ah great

[13:06] Mickorod Renard: there are lots of those type of stories, i was going to read them to my grand daughter,,and decided that they were quite informative

[13:06] Catrinamonblue: Hi all :)

[13:06] Mickorod Renard: Hi Cat

[13:07] Zen (zen.arado): Hi Cat

[13:07] Mickorod Renard: Just to say also, I am not a Buddhist or an expert at it at all

[13:08] Zen (zen.arado): 'in the expert's mind there are few possibilities'

[13:08] Mickorod Renard: ok,,shall we say we have got our numbers now, to start?

[13:08] Mickorod Renard: he he , yes Zen

[13:08] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): I think so :-)

[13:09] druth Vlodovic: nothing more flexible than a child's mind

[13:09] Mickorod Renard: I have put the story on a notecard in case folks can not open another window onto the net

[13:10] Mickorod Renard: and we could take a few minutes to read it,,if you wish,,shall we say 6 mins for the mo

[13:10] Catrinamonblue: yes thank you :)

[13:10] Zen (zen.arado): I'm geting a lot of eyestrai trying to read small print since I got 4k screen

[13:11] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): 6.5?

[13:11] Mickorod Renard: ok Zen, can you manage another way?

[13:12] PaB Bell: 90 second pause. Please be silent in mindfulness.

[13:13] Mickorod Renard: Hi Xir

[13:13] PaB Bell: Shhhhhhhh! Quiet please.

[13:14] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): waves at Xiri

[13:14] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hello Mick and everyone!

[13:14] PaB Bell: Thank you. Please continue to be mindful.

[13:14] Mickorod Renard: note card with todays story, we are just reading it now

[13:14] Zen (zen.arado): Hi Xiri:)

[13:14] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hi Zen :)

[13:15] PaB Bell whispers: Will ring in 881 seconds, at 13:30:39.

[13:18] Mickorod Renard: ready when you arerrrrrr...................

[13:18] Mickorod Renard: :)

[13:18] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): :-0

[13:18] Catrinamonblue: :)

[13:19] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): How do you want to approach this Mick?

[13:19] Mickorod Renard: well, I liked the story re labels

[13:19] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): nods

[13:19] Mickorod Renard: and started to see various ways we use them

[13:19] Mickorod Renard: maybe we can all come up with examples

[13:20] Mickorod Renard: I even label myself..and devalue myself because of how I lable myself

[13:20] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): I was thinking I am very good at labeling myself!

[13:21] Mickorod Renard: he he ..I am like svasti

[13:21] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): interesting that we thought the same thing

[13:21] Mickorod Renard: yes

[13:21] Mickorod Renard: but i am sure I also label others too

[13:21] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): we tend to become our label

[13:21] Catrinamonblue: human nature to want to label things

[13:22] Mickorod Renard: I also thought it fitted with the iopen heart you brought up Aph

[13:22] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): nods

[13:22] Mickorod Renard: yes Cat

[13:22] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): it's not a problem to label oneself, according to the story, unless when the label is not true.... then it is harmful..

[13:22] Catrinamonblue: yes :) true

[13:22] Mickorod Renard: thats a great point Cat

[13:23] Mickorod Renard: but perhaps some of us tend to undervalue,,even in hope of someone bolstering us up

[13:23] Catrinamonblue: nods

[13:23] druth Vlodovic: every label is less than a human being, so it is well to hold them lightly

[13:23] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): we tend to label others according to their appearance and to what society says about them

[13:24] Zen (zen.arado): all labels are untrue

[13:24] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): all??

[13:24] Mickorod Renard: yes, and sometimes there are reasons for that too..like cultural diferences

[13:24] Zen (zen.arado): because words cannot convey the whole of anything or anyone

[13:24] Zen (zen.arado): yes

[13:25] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): we can say something is a cat and be correct

[13:25] Zen (zen.arado): they can only point to something they are not

[13:25] Mickorod Renard: yes, i am sure thats why Siddathra asked for the bail of grass,,to show everyone has needs and values

[13:25] Zen (zen.arado): they can communicate concepts yes

[13:25] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): and that they are all different

[13:25] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I would make a kind of difference between 'labels' and names' which in the story is not clear in my view

[13:26] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): yes

[13:26] druth Vlodovic: I suspect they were conflated

[13:26] druth Vlodovic: a table can be a saw horse if that is the way it is used

[13:26] druth Vlodovic: or a fort :P

[13:26] Mickorod Renard: yes, I guess the story is a teaching aid and not perfect

[13:27] druth Vlodovic: human labels are mostly about how we are used or what we like to do

[13:27] Zen (zen.arado): we were aall taught words and learned to associate them with certai things in life

[13:27] Zen (zen.arado): but the words themselves are meaningless

[13:27] Zen (zen.arado): that is why thy seem strange if we analyse them too much?

[13:28] Catrinamonblue: it's hard to try to convey ideas without words to help it along. With the understanding that words are imperfect

[13:28] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): I suspect that our judgments are almost always biased in some way and therefore the labels we give things. They are all subjective.

[13:28] Zen (zen.arado): they are only written down sounds

[13:28] Zen (zen.arado): grunts

[13:28] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): we allocate the meaning

[13:28] Mickorod Renard: yes, but like a 'danger' sign they sometimes have purpose

[13:28] Zen (zen.arado): they are so sophisticated nw we are taken in y them

[13:28] Zen (zen.arado): oh yes

[13:29] Aph (aphrodite.macbain) wonders about the meaning of Zen's grunts

[13:29] Zen (zen.arado): they communicate things

[13:29] Zen (zen.arado): ideas

[13:29] Zen (zen.arado): well imagine first humans

[13:29] druth Vlodovic: there is an old idea that if you name a thing you can do magic to it

[13:29] Zen (zen.arado): just becoming able to communicate

[13:29] Catrinamonblue: I tought that was if you had their true name?

[13:30] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Is there such a thing as a true name?

[13:30] Mickorod Renard: but when it comes to people,,maybe this is where the meet people with an open heart comes about..after all, we are more sophisticated these days too

[13:30] Zen (zen.arado): in OLd Testament you aren't allowed to name God

[13:30] Catrinamonblue: well thats the secet :)

[13:30] Mickorod Renard: thats interesting Druth

[13:30] Zen (zen.arado): because that would reduce him

[13:30] Zen (zen.arado): ?

[13:30] PaB Bell: 90 second pause. Please be silent in mindfulness.

[13:31] Mickorod Renard: ah thats odd Zen,,re God

[13:31] PaB Bell: Shhhhhhhh! Quiet please.

[13:31] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I understand the meaning of 'labels' in this story related to the ones we put on people that can be harmful...

[13:31] Mickorod Renard: yes

[13:31] PaB Bell: Shhhhhhhh! Quiet please.

[13:31] druth Vlodovic: if you can name something you can manipulate it, god is hugely manipulated, unfortunately

[13:32] Zen (zen.arado): but all labels misrepresent don't they?

[13:32] PaB Bell: Thank you. Please continue to be mindful.

[13:32] druth Vlodovic: depends on the imagination of the listener I would think

[13:32] Mickorod Renard: but its good to remind ourselves ..I think these days I am getting more open hearted..but I still label

[13:32] Zen (zen.arado): they never capture fully what they point to

[13:32] Zen (zen.arado): think of a tree

[13:32] Zen (zen.arado): tree

[13:32] Mickorod Renard: ok

[13:32] druth Vlodovic: lol, I never say "namaste" because I am unsure of it's meaning,and if it does mean "I see your true self" how can that be factual?

[13:33] Zen (zen.arado): is a vast growth and so many varieties

[13:33] Mickorod Renard: yes Zen !

[13:33] PaB Bell whispers: Will ring in 676 seconds, at 13:44:59.

[13:33] Zen (zen.arado): if youu go into a forest and just say 'there are trees'

[13:33] Zen (zen.arado): so much you will miss?

[13:34] Zen (zen.arado): like whn you paint a tree

[13:34] Mickorod Renard: well,,thats it,,it gets real deep,,cos under the surface,,even someone we have labeled is contantly under change

[13:34] Zen (zen.arado): you notice so many details

[13:34] Zen (zen.arado): so much richness

[13:34] Zen (zen.arado): yes exactly

[13:35] Catrinamonblue: Words are imperfect constructs used to covey deeper meanings than can be understood.. but they are a starting point to be able to try to see and understand the deeper truths out there.....

[13:35] Mickorod Renard: a touch of impermanence

[13:35] Zen (zen.arado): and we try to stick a label on something that is changing

[13:35] Zen (zen.arado): like taking a bucket of water from a stream and saying I have a stream in the bucket :)

[13:36] Mickorod Renard: yes Cat..i think labels are integral for daily needs..but with an open mind we can treat them more flexibly

[13:36] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): that's calles 'economy of the language' ....we are able to 'label groups of things and communicate with few words..without needing to put a name to each kind of tree...

[13:36] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): but you can say "there is in the bucket"

[13:36] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): water

[13:36] Zen (zen.arado): so it changed?

[13:36] Zen (zen.arado): :)

[13:37] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Perhaps labelling people is the greatest danger

[13:37] Zen (zen.arado): lost it's 'streamness

[13:37] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): :-)

[13:37] Zen (zen.arado): yes

[13:37] Catrinamonblue: :)

[13:37] Catrinamonblue: for sure Aph

[13:37] Zen (zen.arado): labels are useful but we get captivated by them

[13:37] Zen (zen.arado): yes?

[13:37] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): captivated?

[13:37] druth Vlodovic: there are lots of movements these days to avoid labels that do not precisely describe someone, but I would think that a label that did precisely describe me would be worse

[13:38] Mickorod Renard: I think its the dynamics thats important..like for eg,,how we do harm,,how we loose opportunities

[13:38] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): yes Mick

[13:38] Zen (zen.arado): so that's one way to be more open to peole?

[13:38] Zen (zen.arado): people

[13:38] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): it would be interesting to look at the results of mis-labelling people

[13:38] Zen (zen.arado): stop labelling them

[13:38] Zen (zen.arado): assume each time they are different than before?

[13:39] Mickorod Renard: we could miss making a good friend..and learning something cool,,or deny someone something that they would cherish

[13:39] druth Vlodovic: just assume that nobody is entirely or exactly what you said they are

[13:39] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): keeping an nopen loving mind Mick?

[13:39] Zen (zen.arado): how little we really understand people in SL

[13:39] Mickorod Renard: that would be nice Aph

[13:40] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): in what sense Zen?

[13:40] Zen (zen.arado): I am such a misrepresentation

[13:40] Mickorod Renard: but at the same time is it practical to keep re discovering the same nature in a person?

[13:40] Zen (zen.arado): just thinking

[13:40] Catrinamonblue: brb

[13:40] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): ok :)

[13:40] Mickorod Renard: kk

[13:40] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): you are more than your appearance Zen

[13:40] Zen (zen.arado): or less :)

[13:40] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): I form a picture of you based on what you say

[13:40] Zen (zen.arado): old guy in a wheelchair

[13:41] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): not how you look

[13:41] Mickorod Renard: more or less right

[13:41] Zen (zen.arado): not at all cool :(

[13:41] Mickorod Renard: you might be in our eyes

[13:41] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Better to judge by words and actions or not judge at all

[13:41] druth Vlodovic: in some ways we see people more clearly here

[13:41] Zen (zen.arado): yes

[13:41] Zen (zen.arado): but we see mostly labels iin SL?

[13:41] druth Vlodovic: you are nothing but your words

[13:42] Catrinamonblue: true

[13:42] druth Vlodovic: words come from ideas and education

[13:42] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): you are also a very creative person, a great musician....very good at learning French and so on...

[13:42] Zen (zen.arado): a shallow representation

[13:42] Mickorod Renard: but maybe we dont take sl labels too serious,,as we know their is some fantacy going on

[13:42] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): In my mind you are each very strong and separate characters and I base this on what you say - over time.

[13:42] Zen (zen.arado): and you are a nice kind woman Viri :)

[13:42] Zen (zen.arado): Xiri

[13:43] Zen (zen.arado): true Mick

[13:43] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): thank you Zen :))) you see...you are a gentlement too :))

[13:43] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): :-)

[13:43] Mickorod Renard: yes Zen..just read what Xir said,,very true

[13:43] Zen (zen.arado): maybe we like buying into the myth though

[13:43] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): why?

[13:43] druth Vlodovic: we are the sum of our fantasies

[13:43] Zen (zen.arado): we like being different than RL?

[13:43] Catrinamonblue: :) we can fly

[13:44] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): :-)

[13:44] Zen (zen.arado): isn't indulging in fantasies a big part of SL?

[13:44] Mickorod Renard: bt also ..what appealed to me was the leveling of the playing field,,so to speak

[13:44] Catrinamonblue: isn't it a big part of living all round?

[13:44] Mickorod Renard: except in my spelling

[13:44] PaB Bell: 90 second pause. Please be silent in mindfulness.

[13:45] Zen (zen.arado): we don't use so many labels for people in British society now

[13:45] Mickorod Renard: Svasti could act a king on sl

[13:45] PaB Bell: Shhhhhhhh! Quiet please.

[13:45] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): I feel I say what I think in RL , I dont pretend to have other opinions here

[13:45] Zen (zen.arado): workng class isn't often heard now

[13:46] Mickorod Renard: in Brit society we just say..ah hes cool or hes an arse

[13:46] PaB Bell: Shhhhhhhh! Quiet please.

[13:46] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): He could act a king after discovering he was not an intouchable..no before, maybe...

[13:46] Zen (zen.arado): castes still exist in India I think?

[13:46] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): so...it's the same in rl :)

[13:46] PaB Bell: Thank you. Please continue to be mindful.

[13:46] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): yes though they are illegal

[13:47] Mickorod Renard: do castes exist for Indian folk on SL?

[13:47] Zen (zen.arado): never met any

[13:47] Zen (zen.arado): ah met one///Girish

[13:47] Zen (zen.arado): in Perfect Paradise

[13:47] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I don't think so.... but in SL you can find everything

[13:47] druth Vlodovic: only brahmans in SL

[13:48] Zen (zen.arado): never liked him much must confess

[13:48] PaB Bell whispers: Will ring in 877 seconds, at 14:02:39.

[13:48] Mickorod Renard: I have spent a fair while in India over the years..and I never took any notice of caste..but have come across people saying .'dont talk to them'

[13:48] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): who? GIrish?

[13:48] Zen (zen.arado): yea

[13:49] druth Vlodovic: I find it almost peculiar how little difference country of origin makes when I am interacting with people in SL

[13:49] Zen (zen.arado): he left PP anyway

[13:49] Mickorod Renard: thats a good point Druth

[13:49] druth Vlodovic: in RL somehow it seems more pronounced

[13:49] Mickorod Renard: we mix well on SL

[13:49] Catrinamonblue: :)

[13:49] Zen (zen.arado): remembers derogatory labels Aussies used for immigrants

[13:49] Zen (zen.arado): Pommies, Dagos

[13:50] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): in RL they have an accent, they dress in a particular way,

[13:50] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): we try to avoid possible conflictive topics when we meet people from other cultures

[13:50] Mickorod Renard: when I was in France they would slag off people from the next town

[13:50] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): politics, for exemple

[13:51] Zen (zen.arado): yes isn't it great to have deep conversations with people of other nationalities

[13:51] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): It's a shame though if the conversation always has to be safe and superficial

[13:51] Zen (zen.arado): maybe it's just here

[13:51] Mickorod Renard: it is, but we do tend to share the sme language

[13:51] Zen (zen.arado): I go to dances and concerts and find conversation so shallow

[13:51] Zen (zen.arado): so boring

[13:51] druth Vlodovic: I have had deep and controversial discussions with many categories of people in RL

[13:51] Zen (zen.arado): gonna stop that

[13:52] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Not a place for deep conversations

[13:52] Zen (zen.arado): no

[13:52] druth Vlodovic: sometimes it is startling to realize that basic assumptions are different

[13:52] Mickorod Renard: I used to do ballroom dancing on sl,,that was better for conversation

[13:52] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): the music is too loud!

[13:52] Zen (zen.arado): I used to start political discussions when DJ ing

[13:52] Mickorod Renard: he he

[13:52] Zen (zen.arado): did;t work but I was bored :)

[13:52] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Did anyone respond Zen?

[13:52] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): :)

[13:52] Mickorod Renard: and end with a brawl?

[13:52] druth Vlodovic: people like to pick places according to their mood

[13:53] druth Vlodovic: not many people would choose a ballroom dance when wanting to talk politics

[13:53] Zen (zen.arado): nope

[13:53] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): I find the best time for me to have conversations is wehn I walk and talk

[13:53] Mickorod Renard: do you think we may have benefit from using labels to rise in rank in social status?

[13:53] druth Vlodovic: something to think about while talking :P

[13:53] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): preferable in nature

[13:54] Catrinamonblue: :)

[13:54] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Well - Trump and Clinton seem to be fond of using labels

[13:54] Zen (zen.arado): uh oh

[13:54] Zen (zen.arado): :)

[13:54] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): to p[olitical gain

[13:54] Mickorod Renard: thats to drag each other down

[13:55] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): yes

[13:55] Catrinamonblue: untrue labels

[13:55] druth Vlodovic: it is also to prevent thinking

[13:55] Mickorod Renard: but are we fooling ourselves by being charitable and open hearted?

[13:55] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): :-)

[13:55] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): It's so very childish

[13:55] Zen (zen.arado): heard an American political commentator deploring the low level of debates

[13:55] druth Vlodovic: being charitable and open-hearted? I suppose it is

[13:55] Zen (zen.arado): no mention of isues like global warming

[13:55] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Mick - I dont think so

[13:56] Catrinamonblue: the world would be a cold and lonely place if we built walls around our hearts.... I think we have no choice but to try to be openhearted

[13:56] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): we have to also be equanamous, balanced and resilient

[13:56] druth Vlodovic: it is dangerous to trust but being defensive isn't the recipie for happiness

[13:56] Mickorod Renard: Am I subjecting my future gererations to hardship by not becoming a ruthless grabber?

[13:56] Catrinamonblue: there is no danger in trust

[13:57] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): you are being a good example Mick

[13:57] Zen (zen.arado): ok vulnerability is dangerous too

[13:57] Zen (zen.arado): we can get hurt

[13:57] Mickorod Renard: ty Aph

[13:57] Catrinamonblue: yes but hurt is a part of living and can't be avoided

[13:57] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): but we can detach ourselves from believing what is said

[13:57] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): we must educate to have critical minds....

[13:57] Zen (zen.arado): ever open yourself up to people in a group and there is a stony silence?

[13:57] Mickorod Renard: I feel there may be a shift in people considering generosity

[13:57] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): yes Xiri

[13:58] Mickorod Renard: there is enough to go around,,and love is free

[13:58] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): depends on the group Zen

[13:58] Mickorod Renard: well....we made it to the end

[13:58] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): If it is a group of friends....

[13:59] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): like us

[13:59] Mickorod Renard: I am very grateful you all came

[13:59] Zen (zen.arado): but you have allowed them into your weaknesses etc and they retain their defences

[13:59] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): thanks so much MIck

[13:59] druth Vlodovic: silence can have many meanings zen

[13:59] Catrinamonblue: :)

[13:59] Zen (zen.arado): see what I mean?

[13:59] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): no

[13:59] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): we are all responding

[13:59] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): thanks for proposing this suggesting story Mick...it has awakened a great conversation :)

[13:59] Mickorod Renard: if you are happy i can do another next week?

[13:59] Zen (zen.arado): not speaking about this group

[14:00] Zen (zen.arado): this group is very open and warm

[14:00] druth Vlodovic: it is a nice idea

[14:00] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Please do Mick

[14:00] Catrinamonblue: Zen then that is their defenses and has nothing to do with you.... the stoney silence may be that you touched a tender spot in their amour

[14:00] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): yes...very nice idea

[14:00] Mickorod Renard: yes Zen,,we are very gifted to have such friends

[14:00] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Are there lots of stories?

[14:00] druth Vlodovic: stories like this say a lot about what is important to people and cultures

[14:00] Zen (zen.arado): I guess but it makes me feel folish for being such a blabbermouth

[14:01] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): you aren't a blabbermouth

[14:01] Mickorod Renard: yes, I think they are for kids,,but I think they are just easier to get the head around

[14:01] Zen (zen.arado): great story Mick BTW

[14:01] Mickorod Renard: ty

[14:01] Catrinamonblue: it was a very lovely story :)

[14:01] Mickorod Renard: I will follow the web site unless its unappropriate

[14:01] Zen (zen.arado): lots of Zen stories too but they are harder to understand sometimes

[14:01] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): I thought it would be nice to be a water buffalo tender

[14:01] Catrinamonblue: :)

[14:02] Mickorod Renard: me tooo

[14:02] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): :)

[14:02] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): :-)

[14:02] Mickorod Renard: he he

[14:02] PaB Bell: 90 second pause. Please be silent in mindfulness.

[14:02] druth Vlodovic: the zen of ungulate maintenance

[14:03] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): lol

[14:03] Zen (zen.arado): :)

[14:03] Mickorod Renard: I will post it when I know what story is next

[14:03] PaB Bell: Shhhhhhhh! Quiet please.

[14:03] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Back to my laundry

[14:03] Mickorod Renard: Thanks for coming

[14:03] PaB Bell: Shhhhhhhh! Quiet please.

[14:03] Catrinamonblue: :)

[14:03] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): byee all

[14:03] Mickorod Renard: Bye Aph

[14:03] PaB Bell: Shhhhhhhh! Quiet please.

[14:03] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): ok....have a nice evening , ake care all and ty ...bye all! :)

[14:04] druth Vlodovic: catch you later

[14:04] Zen (zen.arado): bye all

[14:04] PaB Bell: Thank you. Please continue to be mindful.

[14:04] Mickorod Renard: bye Zen, Druth

[14:04] Catrinamonblue: bye :0

[14:04] Mickorod Renard: Bye Cat

[14:04] Mickorod Renard: Bye Xir

[14:04] Mickorod Renard: he he

[14:04] Mickorod Renard: bye me

[14:04] Zen (zen.arado) is offline.

[14:04] Aph (aphrodite.macbain) is offline.

Next week http://www.bodhitales.org/a-riceball.php