The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.

Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
--BELL--1300
Wol Euler: wotcher, bruce
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Wol!
Wol Euler: back in a sec, making tea
Bruce Mowbray: sure, np.
Wol Euler: so, back
Bruce Mowbray: wb!
Bruce Mowbray: I've been watching a TED talk . . . Are you able to see those in Europe?
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: love them
Bruce Mowbray: me too!
Wol Euler: I often listen to them at work
Bruce Mowbray: Aggers!
Bruce Mowbray: Margaret Heffernan: The dangers of "willful blindness"
Wol Euler: aggerses!
Wol Euler cheers!
Agatha Macbeth: Whapp'n
Bruce Mowbray: ***** APPLAUSE! *****
Wol Euler: how's you`
Wol Euler: ?
Bruce Mowbray: Wol and I were talking about TED talks....
Agatha Macbeth: Why is it always so damn slow around here?
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Agatha Macbeth listens
Wol Euler nods.
Bruce Mowbray: All was saying that she sometimes watches them at work.
Agatha Macbeth: All who?
Wol Euler: listens, actually :)
Wol Euler: me
Bruce Mowbray: Wol was saying*
Wol Euler: all of me
Bruce Mowbray slaps dragon.
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Wol Euler: ah, you are on the dragon again
Wol Euler: heheheh
Agatha Macbeth: How many of you are there? :p
Wol Euler: can't *watch* videos in an open-plan office
Bruce Mowbray: yelpers, and the Dragon seems to be draggin' today.
Agatha Macbeth: You watch TED vids at work?
Wol Euler: but I have it running in a background window
Wol Euler: listen to
Agatha Macbeth: Right
Bruce Mowbray: ahhh!
Agatha Macbeth: No wonder all the buildings fall down...
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: Nice shirt Brucie
Bruce Mowbray: TY!
Bruce Mowbray: I did my laundry this morning.
Agatha Macbeth: So being an architect is also educational then
Bruce Mowbray: you know, that once a year chore?
Wol Euler nods.
Bruce Mowbray listens....
Agatha Macbeth: You wash your clothes once a year?
Wol Euler: you must have a very large washing machine
Bruce Mowbray: except on leap years....
Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!
Agatha Macbeth: Oddly enough I'm doing mine right now
Agatha Macbeth: Hence I was late
Bruce Mowbray: cool!
Wol Euler did hers earlier.
Bruce Mowbray: my typist has to go into a laundromat to do his.... no close washer out here in the boonies.
Wol Euler: ah, no wonder then
Bruce Mowbray: clothes*
Agatha Macbeth: The joys of being unmarried eh
Bruce Mowbray: He tries to pile on three or four other in-town chores to do while his laundry is washing.
Bruce Mowbray: yes unmarried for sure!
Agatha Macbeth: Free but busy
Bruce Mowbray: no division of labor here on the farm...
Agatha Macbeth: Even for the squirrels
Bruce Mowbray: one typist does all tasks.... from squirrel collecting to laundry... and everything in between.
Agatha Macbeth: Life is sure fun
--BELL--1315
Agatha Macbeth: So have I missed anything? I don't seem to get round to email often these days
Wol Euler: (distracted by an accident right outside, streetcar hit a car)
Agatha Macbeth: Oh my
Bruce Mowbray: oh dear!
Agatha Macbeth: Was it named desire?
Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
Wol Euler: the streetcar was named U9, no idea what the car was called
Bruce Mowbray ponders a car named "Desire."
Agatha Macbeth: Hopefully the occupants escaped unhurt
Wol Euler: I gather so, there is an ambulance here but the crew seem pretty unhurried
Agatha Macbeth: Good
Wol Euler: problem was rather that the car was on fire
Bruce Mowbray: Whew!
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: Eek
Wol Euler: you'd think it would be easy enough to spot something 40 metres long, 4 metres tall and two and a half wide, painted bright yellow ...
Bruce Mowbray: point of historical trivia: My typist lived for two years in his present dwelling before he heard the first emergency sirens on this road.
Agatha Macbeth: Good lord
Bruce Mowbray: one would think! but I was just listening to and TED talk regarding " Willful Blindness"
Wol Euler: heheheh
Wol Euler: how apt
Bruce Mowbray: https://www.ted.com/talks/margaret_h...dness#t-243095
Agatha Macbeth: None so blind as they who will not see?
Wol Euler: I think they do see it but believe that they can just get past before it arrives
Bruce Mowbray: something like that....
Wol Euler: "rather dead than late"
Wol Euler: happens fairly regularly
Wol Euler: anyway
Bruce Mowbray: Folks in this country do that with railroad tracks . . . I am assuming that in Wol's case, those would be more like trolley tracks, or maybe subway tracks?
Agatha Macbeth: Streetcar I think she said
Wol Euler: trolley, yes, runs at ground level, rails embedded in tarmac in some cases
Agatha Macbeth: Which I equate with 'tram'
Bruce Mowbray: oh that's right, " streetcar" -- such a short memory I have!
Wol Euler: right
Bruce Mowbray: so, perhaps ' trolley' is not too far off the mark.
Wol Euler: perhaps the scale is confusing, hard to tell how fast something that big is moving
Bruce Mowbray ponders what Wol has just said, and prays that no 747s will land on Dogtown Road.
Bruce Mowbray: then we'd hear sirens, for sure!
Agatha Macbeth: Well, quite
Agatha Macbeth: Just don't call me Shirley
Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!
Agatha Macbeth: I love that film
Bruce Mowbray loves that allusion!
Agatha Macbeth: Both of them in fact

Wol pops

Agatha Macbeth: Oops
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Wollie
Agatha Macbeth: Hope that wasn't acciedent-related

Wol returns

Agatha Macbeth: WB
Bruce Mowbray: The historical anecdote that my typist recalled - - namely is first siren-hearing -- was actually 43 years ago. But even now, we don't hear more than one siren a year on the road.
Bruce Mowbray: wb, Wol!
Wol Euler: ty
Agatha Macbeth: For one moment I thought you'd rushed out to help with the rescue
Wol Euler: nah, just the usual slow crash
Agatha Macbeth: Well, kinda thing you do :p
Bruce Mowbray: you mean you hadn't heard that Wol was selling insurance on the side?
Wol Euler: true enough
Wol Euler: I have been considering getting first aid training actually
Agatha Macbeth: Oh good idea
Bruce Mowbray: or perhaps practicing the workmen's compensation lawyer bit - - - chasing after emergency vehicles.
Bruce Mowbray: emergency first aid training is very good to know about.
Agatha Macbeth: I did that in a work-related scenario nearly 30 years ago
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: giving first aid`
Bruce Mowbray: In the group home management position that my typist held for 13 years, such training was required of every employee.
Wol Euler: ?
Agatha Macbeth: Well got a certificate for a course, that sort of thing
Agatha Macbeth: Along with Health & safety and Fire safety
Bruce Mowbray: My typist loved practicing CPR. . .
Agatha Macbeth: It's fun to do with women
Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!
Wol Euler: you enjoy breaking women's ribs?
Agatha Macbeth: I mean mouth to mouth
Wol Euler: ah
Bruce Mowbray: one mouth-to-mouth every 16 thrusts . . . right?
Wol Euler: that sounds very long
Bruce Mowbray: or the have they changed it now?
Bruce Mowbray: Heaya, Qt!
Agatha Macbeth: Bouncing up and down on someone's tits can be acceptable in a life saving situation I believe
Wol Euler: hello qt
Agatha Macbeth: Sera QT
Qt Core: Hi all
Agatha Macbeth: How's Milano?
Bruce Mowbray: what a line for Qt to walk in on.
--BELL--1330
Bruce Mowbray ponders the importance of contexts in our dialogues.
Qt Core: heimlick or whatever it is spelled manoeuvre ?
Qt Core: under the rain, how unusual this year... yeah, right
Bruce Mowbray: Heimlich.
Agatha Macbeth: Heimlich?
Agatha Macbeth: Someone once saved Michael J Fox's life with one of those
Bruce Mowbray: Heimlich was from Cincinnati, Ohio... actually.
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
Bruce Mowbray: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Heimlich
Agatha Macbeth: Never a good idea to eat and talk at the same time
Agatha Macbeth pokes Blub
Bruce Mowbray: Heimlich and his wife have four children: Phil Heimlich, a former Cincinnati elected official turned conservative Christian radio talk-show host
Agatha Macbeth: Well nobody's perfect
Bruce Mowbray: ... and more (to mundane to mention.) except that Heimlich was the on-call of Anson Williams . . . ( actor).
Bruce Mowbray: uncle*
Bruce Mowbray: perhaps on-call as well, I don't know.
Agatha Macbeth: On-call, like that
Agatha Macbeth: As in doctor
Wol Euler considers googling Anson Williams
Qt Core: ohh, i always thought about hjm as a late 1800 german doctor, he os still alive!
Agatha Macbeth: Bit old now then
Bruce Mowbray: I guess he is still alive ( not Anson Williams but Heimlich...)
Bruce Mowbray: Wikipedia says he's 94 years old....
Agatha Macbeth: Well that surely is old
Wol Euler: wikipedia says yes, age 94
Bruce Mowbray: ( must have never had the Heimlich down on him!!! ha ha.)
Qt Core: 94, yes an just published a book too
Wol Euler: snap
Bruce Mowbray: done on him not DOWN on him, for heaven's sake!
Agatha Macbeth: Tell the dragon to stick to guarding gold Brucie
Bruce Mowbray advises his typist to take a break, get something to drink, settle down, ponder mortality..... brbrbrbrbr. ( that's for those of you who are into reincarnation.)
Agatha Macbeth: Tinned milk?
Agatha Macbeth: No, that's Carnation
Agatha Macbeth slaps herself
Bruce Mowbray: gin.
Agatha Macbeth: Rummy
Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!
Agatha Macbeth: Acey deucey under my shoe-sie
Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
Bruce Mowbray: Heimlich Heimlich my kingdom for a Heimlich!
Agatha Macbeth: Echt
Bruce Mowbray: I'll bet that's the first time you've heard that expression!
Agatha Macbeth ponders
Bruce Mowbray: normally persons who really do need a Heimlich don't speak much. they just gasp.
Agatha Macbeth: You know you're right
Bruce Mowbray: Do you have the Heimlich maneuver there in Italy, Qt?
Agatha Macbeth: All to do with descended larynxes
Qt Core: yes, same name too
Bruce Mowbray: okay, good to hear that.
Bruce Mowbray: especially with all those pizzerias around.
Agatha Macbeth: Did you know only humans and aquatic mammals have them?
Wol Euler: pizzerias?
Bruce Mowbray: you mean descended larynxes?
Agatha Macbeth: The latter
Agatha Macbeth: Makes choking easier but also swimming
Bruce Mowbray: isn't that one of the first things that doctors check for after boy babies are delivered -- to see that their laryneses have descended.
Agatha Macbeth: Dunno Brucie, I'm no midwife
Bruce Mowbray: me neither, I only had the CPR training.
Agatha Macbeth: Always wondered why they're called that
Agatha Macbeth: I mean what are they in the middle of?
Bruce Mowbray: "they"?
Agatha Macbeth: Midwives
Wol Euler: "The "descended larynx" of adult humans has traditionally been considered unique to our species, representing an adaptation for articulate speech, and debate concerning the position of the larynx in extinct hominids assumes that a lowered larynx is diagnostic of speech and language. Here, we use bioacoustic analyses of vocalizing animals, together with anatomical analyses of functional morphology, to document descended larynges in red and fallow deer. The resting position of the larynx in males of these species is similar to that in humans, and, during roaring, red-deer stags lower the larynx even further, to the sternum. These findings indicate that laryngeal descent is not uniquely human and has evolved at least twice in independent lineages. We suggest that laryngeal descent serves to elongate the vocal tract, allowing callers to exaggerate their perceived body size by decreasing vocal-tract resonant frequencies. Vocal-tract elongation is common in birds and is probably present in additional mammals. Size
Wol Euler: exaggeration provides a non-linguistic alternative hypothesis for the descent of the larynx in human evolution." Royal Society of Biological Sciences
Bruce Mowbray: oh, yes, an excellent question....
Wol Euler: not newborns, it descends during childhood
Bruce Mowbray: Wow. That is fascinating. Thank you for sharing that!
Agatha Macbeth: Wonder if deer swim?
--BELL--1345
Bruce Mowbray ponders "allowing callers to exaggerate their perceived body size by decreasing vocal-tract resonant frequencies."
Bruce Mowbray imagines squeaking deer in rutting season. . . . horrible image. Deer actually bark. Did you know that? My typist hears them across the road every so often.
Bruce Mowbray: they bark like dogs.
Agatha Macbeth: Yes they do, I've haerd them
Wol Euler: well I never.
Agatha Macbeth: And foxes
Bruce Mowbray: it's true.
Agatha Macbeth: Foxes are noisy buggers
Bruce Mowbray: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EWzg4eiJnM
Bruce Mowbray: too long!
Bruce Mowbray: but only less than a minute in, you can hear the deer bark twice.
Bruce Mowbray: and the cat meow twice!
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, have you been unwell Brucie?
Bruce Mowbray: yes, my typist was on Wells yesterday.
Bruce Mowbray: well*
Bruce Mowbray: unwell*
Agatha Macbeth: Hope you/he is better
Bruce Mowbray: I think his larynx is not entirely well yet.
Wol Euler: sorry to hear it, bruce
Bruce Mowbray: thank you for that. no fever today, gratefully.
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe it's descended too far :p
Bruce Mowbray: he was in bed all day yesterday with 101° fever... missed the Ohio State opening game, unless
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Bruce Mowbray: but much better today, and thank you for asking.
Agatha Macbeth: Did it require a doctor?
Bruce Mowbray: alas -- not unless (that larynx thing again.)
Bruce Mowbray: no, he has sworn off doctors.
Bruce Mowbray: a notice has just come from Bert.
Agatha Macbeth: Not sworn AT them then? ;-)
Bruce Mowbray: just in the nick of time!
Agatha Macbeth: Yay Berti
Bruce Mowbray: has one of them many times in his imaginings, though never in person.
Bruce Mowbray: sworn at them . . . not one of them*
Bruce Mowbray: gosh.
Agatha Macbeth: My mother couldn't stand them either
Bruce Mowbray: this Dragon needs some serious larynx training.
Agatha Macbeth: Or new batteries
Bruce Mowbray: well, my typist saw 35 doctors in 76 different appointments within two years.... so he feels that his quotas have been filled.
Bruce Mowbray: I mean enough is enough.
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
Agatha Macbeth: More than enough I'd say
Bruce Mowbray: and not a single one of them was closer than 20 miles from where my typist lives.....
Bruce Mowbray: so that was a lot of mileage on the car, if you get my meaning.
Agatha Macbeth: Could job you have one!
Wol Euler: and on you! who drove?
Bruce Mowbray: for different hospitals, four different counties, 35 different doctors.
Agatha Macbeth: Good*
Agatha Macbeth: Now I'm doing it
Bruce Mowbray: four different hospitals*
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe we should start doing these things in voice? :p
Bruce Mowbray: but enough whining!
Bruce Mowbray: I go to all but two of them --- and those were examinations that required sedation and therefore a driver.... which is pretty hard for me to get, actually.
Bruce Mowbray: I would love to do them in voice!
Agatha Macbeth: You have a right to whine dear, you pay your taxes
Bruce Mowbray: on Fridays that is exactly what Yaku and I do, until someone else arrives on the scene.
Bruce Mowbray: I also pay my medical insurance!
Agatha Macbeth: Did anyone come to the noon thing in the pub?
Bruce Mowbray: I went there for four weeks to meet people, but the only one who showed up was Yaku,
Bruce Mowbray: and he wanted to be in a German sim,
Bruce Mowbray: so I just stopped going.
Agatha Macbeth: And yet Raffi suggested it! How odd
Bruce Mowbray: yes, but Raffi was never able to attend.
Wol Euler: perhaps one of those things that would be lovely if somebody else managed and ran it
Agatha Macbeth nods
Bruce Mowbray: also nods.
Bruce Mowbray: Ilike doing my laundry.)
Agatha Macbeth: Shall we be away to Bert then?
Wol Euler: indeed
Bruce Mowbray: away to Bert!
Agatha Macbeth: Ciao QT
Wol Euler: hiyotohiho
Wol Euler: bye qt, take care
Qt Core: Bye Aga, Wol