Eos Amaterasu: Hii Adams!
Adams Dubrovna: Hello Eos :)
Adams Dubrovna: How are you doing?
Eos Amaterasu: Oh, fine, "In the Middle of the Road" (hearing the Pretenders song...)
Adams Dubrovna: :)
Eos Amaterasu: How's life with you?
Adams Dubrovna: OK. I am redoing the Islamic wing in the museum
Adams Dubrovna: all the good Islamic sites have left SL and something needed to be done
Adams Dubrovna: the other traditions need work too but that is beyond me right now
Eos Amaterasu: hmm... I missed your last show opening
Adams Dubrovna: it was an interesting subject
Eos Amaterasu listens
Adams Dubrovna: turned out to be much bigger than expected
Eos Amaterasu: what was the subject?
Adams Dubrovna: Sacrifice of Abraham
--BELL--
Adams Dubrovna: in the three traditions- Judaism, islam and Christianity
Eos Amaterasu: wow, 90 seconds in that...
Adams Dubrovna: people spent centuries trying to make sense of the story
Adams Dubrovna: filling in the blanks
Eos Amaterasu: does the current exhibit tell that (those) stories?
Adams Dubrovna: yes
Adams Dubrovna: some of them anyway
Eos Amaterasu: will have to check it out
Eos Amaterasu: heavy
Adams Dubrovna: I learned much about Judiasm
Adams Dubrovna: since it is part of Rosh Hashanah it becomes more important
Adams Dubrovna: The Muslims and Christians changed the story
Adams Dubrovna: to fit their needs
Eos Amaterasu: stories R us
Adams Dubrovna: yes
Eos Amaterasu: both individually and collectively
Adams Dubrovna nods
Eos Amaterasu: I guess art tells those stories too?
Adams Dubrovna: most of the Biblical art is Christian because of the reticence to paint people in Judiasm and Christianity
Adams Dubrovna: The Jewish images are found in two rather short medieva; periods
Adams Dubrovna: in Spain and in Northern Europe
Adams Dubrovna: in the Haggadahs of medieval Spain for one
Adams Dubrovna: and in Mazorim, Bibles and Haggadahs in N. Europe
Eos Amaterasu: historical periods/circumstances that allowed for certains kinds of lensing
Adams Dubrovna: when the prohibition was not felt as strongly
Adams Dubrovna: a few Islamic images were made as well
Adams Dubrovna: In Judaism there is a rich legacy of literature
Eos Amaterasu: words are okay?
Adams Dubrovna: in the museum?
Adams Dubrovna: in an exhibit like this it can not be helped :)
Eos Amaterasu: ie, no prohibition against words, storytelling
Eos Amaterasu: or music?
Adams Dubrovna: oh in Judaism, yes words incouraged
Adams Dubrovna: I do not know about the music
Eos Amaterasu: food? :-)
Adams Dubrovna: yes food is a part of tradditions
Adams Dubrovna: and sounds - blowing of shofar
Adams Dubrovna: some think the shofar (ram's horn) is the sound of Sarah's laments when she heard what Abraham had done
Eos Amaterasu: What do you feel that story means?
Eos Amaterasu: & what is the core of the story?
Adams Dubrovna: So many meanings :)
Adams Dubrovna: So many interpretations
Adams Dubrovna: It is analyzed from Anraaham's pont of view, Isaac's (Ishmael's), Sarah's God's and the ram's
Adams Dubrovna: for me I felt that both Abraham and Isaac were learning to let go
Adams Dubrovna: for Abraham of the son he dearly loved and for Isaac of life
--BELL--
Eos Amaterasu: then you walk in the garden of God
Adams Dubrovna: when I started I thought the story was there as a warning against child sacrifce from an earlier period but other sacrifices in the Bible make me doubt that now
Adams Dubrovna: it is a heavy entrance to the garden :)
Eos Amaterasu: Very
Eos Amaterasu: but our world if full of those entrances
Adams Dubrovna: one writer took the approach that the writer of the story had been engaged by the editors of the Torah to do something about the stiry of Abraham which was long and boring
Adams Dubrovna: he submitted the story but then wanted to change it
Adams Dubrovna: but the editors said no, others would edit it
Adams Dubrovna: and people have been doing that for centuries
Eos Amaterasu: oral traditions?
Adams Dubrovna: much written
Adams Dubrovna: I am not a biblical scholar so I do not know much about these things but there is disagreement about the source of this particualr story
Adams Dubrovna: it is written in the style of the E source but uses Yaweh of the J source
Adams Dubrovna: btw, the writer of the J material may have been a woman
Eos Amaterasu: was going to say, maybe this was a couple from the two traditions :-)
Adams Dubrovna: maybe
Eos Amaterasu: How would you say the story?
Adams Dubrovna: ?
Eos Amaterasu: "God said to Abraham, kill me a son, Abe said yes.... " - Highway 61 Revisited
Adams Dubrovna: :)
Adams Dubrovna: the story has inspired many songs and poems
Adams Dubrovna: I am going to send you an exerpt from the workshop that is very moving
Adams Dubrovna: did thaat go?
Eos Amaterasu: ?
Adams Dubrovna: did you get it?
Eos Amaterasu: no, missed it?
Adams Dubrovna: now?
Eos Amaterasu: Thanks
Adams Dubrovna: The story goes very deep into the consciousness of some
Eos Amaterasu: a moral tale... sometimes there are difficult decisions
Adams Dubrovna: yes, excruciating
Eos Amaterasu: Here's what I think is the heaviest line in all of literature, from the Mahabharata:
Eos Amaterasu: "If one prefers one's own children to those of another, then war is not far away."
--BELL--
Adams Dubrovna: Most interesting piece of literature to compare to the story
Adams Dubrovna: I had not considered it
Eos Amaterasu: Peter Brook's production of it
Adams Dubrovna: great Krishna in that one
Adams Dubrovna: I am afraid I must leave early. a couple of things to do in the museum before I go to bed
Adams Dubrovna: it was nice to spend some time with you. thank you
Eos Amaterasu: NP... thanks so much for dropping by and the most interesting conversation
Adams Dubrovna: take good care :)
Eos Amaterasu: Will also retire!
Eos Amaterasu: Cheers and good night1
Adams Dubrovna: good night then :)
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