2015.01.22 13:00 - The Shape of One's Life

The Guardians for this meeting were Shinju and Storm. The comments are by Shinju...

--BELL--

ShinjuJin Resident: Aloha, Storm
Storm Nordwind: Hello-a Shinju. :)
ShinjuJin Resident: :)
ShinjuJin Resident: I've not yet made sauce, but I did shop for fennel seeds
Storm Nordwind: Good!
Storm Nordwind: Actually the ginger and garlic paste is probably the more difficult to obtain.
ShinjuJin Resident: That was easy, although not the brand you suggested
ShinjuJin Resident: so hopefully what I did find will work
Storm Nordwind: Great
ShinjuJin Resident: Miami may have a more diverse market than some areas
ShinjuJin Resident: Hi Curious :)
CuriousBeing Resident: hi Storm, Shinju :)
Storm Nordwind: Hi CuriousBeing :)
Storm Nordwind: Just a heads-up. I may have to leave abruptly today. Hopefully I'll be able to be here throughout.
ShinjuJin Resident: okay, sure
CuriousBeing Resident: ok :)
ShinjuJin Resident: hopefully nothing crisis level?
Storm Nordwind: A delivery and installation
ShinjuJin Resident: ah

ShinjuJin Resident: Hello Rebus
RebusLost Resident: Hi
ShinjuJin Resident: nice to meet you, and welcome
CuriousBeing Resident: hi Rebus
Storm Nordwind: hey :)
RebusLost Resident: I thought I had the Landmark for here, but I'd lost it. And, had to Search for it again. Sorry.
ShinjuJin Resident: No worries at all, see you are coming from Kira Cafe, so you are already familiar with kira and PaB?
RebusLost Resident: I know a little, but, best to assume I'm nearly totally ignorant. :)
ShinjuJin Resident: :) Okay, well mainly I just want to make sure to let you know we record our sessions and place them on a public wiki at playasbeing.org
ShinjuJin Resident: is it ok to include your comments today, in that posting?
RebusLost Resident: No problems with recording.
ShinjuJin Resident: marvelous

ShinjuJin Resident: we haven't yet brought up a topic. does anyone have one?
Storm Nordwind looks blank
ShinjuJin Resident: good blank look, Storm
ShinjuJin Resident: haha
CuriousBeing Resident: lol

RebusLost Resident: BBC Radio 4, here in the UK, had a piece on Phenomenology, this morning.
ShinjuJin Resident: Hi Agatha :) Dramatic arrival
CuriousBeing Resident: actually we all look a little blank :)
Agatha Macbeth: Greetings
CuriousBeing Resident: greetings!
ShinjuJin Resident: Oh, that sounds very interesting. what was the focus of the piece?
Storm Nordwind: Melvyn Bragg?
Agatha Macbeth: Where?
ShinjuJin Resident looks blank
CuriousBeing Resident: hehe
Storm Nordwind: A guy that hosts (or used to host when I lived there) a show called "In Our Time". Dealt with stuff like that.
RebusLost Resident: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04ykk4m
ShinjuJin Resident: ty Rebus
ShinjuJin Resident clicks
RebusLost Resident: "Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss phenomenology, a style of philosophy developed by the German thinker Edmund Husserl in the first decades of the 20th century. Husserl's initial insights underwent a radical transformation in the work of his student Martin Heidegger, and played a key role in the development of French philosophy at the hands of writers like Emmanuel Levinas, Jean-Paul Sartre, Simone de Beauvoir and Maurice Merleau-Ponty."
Storm Nordwind got it in one.
Agatha Macbeth: Ah oui Jean-Paiul, c'est nous
ShinjuJin Resident: impressive
Agatha Macbeth whistles the Girl from Ipanema
ShinjuJin Resident: interesting the focus is Husserl first. Usually for shows it is Heidegger?

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: No Kant?
RebusLost Resident: Things hosted by Melvyn Bragg tend to be pretty perceptive - deeper than a lot of 'popular shows'.
Storm Nordwind: That's pretty much true for all Radio 4 stuff, IIRC.
Storm Nordwind observes you can play the show by clicking on the photo of Husserl.
ShinjuJin Resident: I'm not quite sure whether they are considered diff schools of phenomenology, but I always have liked that Pema focused on trying to explorations, which I guess was more Husserl-ian?
ShinjuJin Resident: looking forward to listening, and appreciate the pointer
CuriousBeing Resident: will listen later too ... thanks!
Storm Nordwind: I suspect Heidegger got plenty of air time on previous shows. ;)
ShinjuJin Resident: :)
Agatha Macbeth: And laughed a lot
ShinjuJin Resident: I'm really interested in the subject but even after a few years of dabbling, don't think that I quite understand it
Agatha Macbeth: I suspect few do
ShinjuJin Resident: I guess that's okay
ShinjuJin Resident nods

Agatha Macbeth: Still wish WoK would start again tho
Agatha Macbeth: And KISS
ShinjuJin Resident: it seems like the explorations we've done here of dropping or questioning subject/object is phenomenology in its way, depending on the questions asked when doing so
Agatha Macbeth: It's sad how the café is so underused now
ShinjuJin Resident: the heydays of SL :)
RebusLost Resident: I'm afraid I don't recognise "WoK" or "KISS".
Agatha Macbeth: Even Max has given up I think
ShinjuJin Resident: There used to be workshops at Kira Cafe
ShinjuJin Resident: Ways of Knowing
Agatha Macbeth: Sorry Rebus, talking shop :p
ShinjuJin Resident: although I don't remember the first two initials of KISS, but last were science seminar?
RebusLost Resident: I visited a few workshops at Kira Cafe, in a previous incarnation. :)
Agatha Macbeth: Actually neither do I
ShinjuJin Resident smiles
Storm Nordwind: http://www.kira.org/images/stories/c...strip-kiss.jpg
Agatha Macbeth: That was when we had any
ShinjuJin Resident: And there was a place called MICA where there were astronomy talks often, and I still remember the great talk on quarks in the Kira Dome
Agatha Macbeth: Yes
RebusLost Resident: I understand that there are still science and philosophy talks, if you search them out...
ShinjuJin Resident: thanks Storm (Kira Interdisciplinary Science Seminar)
Agatha Macbeth: But not here, sadly
Agatha Macbeth: I miss Gilles too
ShinjuJin Resident: there are good philosophy discussions still

RebusLost Resident: It is hard work keeping a discussion group going...
ShinjuJin Resident: indeed so, takes a lot of organization and following up
ShinjuJin Resident: what are you most interested in Rebus?
RebusLost Resident: I'm interesting in figuring-out a bit more who and what I am, if that doesn't sound too selfish?
ShinjuJin Resident: not at all selfish
Agatha Macbeth: Oh best of luck!
ShinjuJin Resident: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Enzo
Agatha Macbeth: LTNS
ShinjuJin Resident: she didn't say figuring out 'all'
Enzooo Sellers: hi all
ShinjuJin Resident: Hi Enzooo, welcome
CuriousBeing Resident: hi Enzooo

RebusLost Resident: They way it was put to me, if you want to work well with others, knowing a bit more who you are helps.
Agatha Macbeth: An old face returns
ShinjuJin Resident: makes sense to me
RebusLost Resident: And, human are 'tool users', so, to figure yourself out you need a good and varied 'mental toolkit'.
Storm Nordwind: I suspect one can spend a while lifetime diligently researching that subject, without a satisfactory conclusion. Meanwhile we still have to work (and hopefully well) with others.
ShinjuJin Resident: I think I'm better at receiving feedback now than I was when first beginning discussions here... Not taking things too personally can take a while to get the hang of (or knowing when to take them personally)
Agatha Macbeth grins
CuriousBeing Resident: yes, no need to wait until we totally figure out ourselves to work with others ... besides others can and do teach us a lot about ourselves :)

--BELL--

ShinjuJin Resident: it helps when the others don't need exact answers too
Enzooo Sellers: it helps if all the members of the group are "group conscious"
CuriousBeing Resident: even our virtual selves and virtual friends can teach us about ourselves
RebusLost Resident: Believing that you need to be exact, in most non-engineering things, is a bit of a trap, I think...
Enzooo Sellers: avatars are masks, but you can see the eyes through a mask
ShinjuJin Resident nodding
Agatha Macbeth: Eye eye

RebusLost Resident: Could I ask what you mean by 'group conscious', please?
Enzooo Sellers: http://vimeo.com/34696162 Nova Spivack explains it better than me, it is when all the member of the group are aware of the others and not self centered
Enzooo Sellers: then they can acheived more together than the sum of the individual actions
Agatha Macbeth: The no I thing again
Enzooo Sellers: think of a music band or a soccer team
ShinjuJin Resident: each is doing their individual best though, simultaneously to being aware of the team dynamics

RebusLost Resident: So, 'group conscious' is another of life's balancing acts, between the individual and the group's purposes?
Enzooo Sellers: exactly, now think of the planet scale and what we could acheive as an conscious ecosystem
ShinjuJin Resident: it seems the direction we are going in, however clumsily, with more knowledge across cultures being shared
ShinjuJin Resident: each coming out of a unique set of balances and challenges
ShinjuJin Resident: (if we don't obliterate ourselves first :P)

RebusLost Resident: What about individuals who tend to get lost in 'group purposes' too easily?
ShinjuJin Resident: good question
Enzooo Sellers: well we had some troubles here in Paris lately
ShinjuJin Resident nods thoughtfully
ShinjuJin Resident: indeed hard tests
Enzooo Sellers: it may be our "gom jabbar"
RebusLost Resident: Fanaticism is a popular personal mistake, sometimes fatal, among young people in particular...
Enzooo Sellers: and it will remain the same for a while, depending on our response as a "large group"
ShinjuJin Resident: when people begin to see that they don't necessarily belong in their family 'first' at a certain age, I think it is natural to look for other tribes in the wider world
RebusLost Resident: For example, sports teams, pop idols, are more socially acceptable 'self losses'...
ShinjuJin Resident: we're either kicked out of nests or they begin to feel very small :)
Enzooo Sellers: even the "french foreign legion"
ShinjuJin Resident: it is great to experience temporary self loss as parts of things, but not much on earth can be trusted with that perhaps
ShinjuJin Resident: supposed to land :)

RebusLost Resident: There seem to be people willing to comit extreme violence for their football (soccer) team, in the UK, for example.
Agatha Macbeth: Not any more, 30 years ago
RebusLost Resident: They are still around, I believe, just not so obvious, thes days...
ShinjuJin Resident: what is it that can make a person feel their whole identity is wrapped up in an 'event'?
Storm Nordwind: Aggers... perhaps you haven't visited Glasgow or Millwall recently.
Agatha Macbeth: The Taylor report pretty much put an end to all that
ShinjuJin Resident is using google a lot today
Agatha Macbeth: You never heard of Glasgow? :p
Enzooo Sellers: Violence is a tool
ShinjuJin Resident: Taylor Report :P :P :P
Agatha Macbeth: Ah...

RebusLost Resident: You might be amused to google for the "Glasgow Kiss". :)
Storm Nordwind: Indeed
ShinjuJin Resident googles...
Storm Nordwind: One learns to shake hands warily in Glasgow
Agatha Macbeth: 'Afore ye go Jimmy'
Agatha Macbeth: Osiyo K
ShinjuJin Resident: Oh dear... yes I remember the French soccer player at the world cup those years ago...

--BELL--

Korel Laloix: Osiyo
Enzooo Sellers: that one was a slow learner
CuriousBeing Resident: hi Kori :)
Korel Laloix: Heya
ShinjuJin Resident: Hi Korel :) Would you like a notecard of the discussion, or just to jump in?
RebusLost Resident: "Sport is War practiced in a neat way"? :)
ShinjuJin Resident: I do think there are things that are hard to learn if one never participates in a group activity of some sort, be it sport or band, etc
Storm Nordwind: It is the gladiatorial spirit. It has entertained for millennia.
ShinjuJin Resident: stepping up vs standing down/timing
Agatha Macbeth: Like ice hockey
RebusLost Resident: Adrenaline as the drug of choice...
Korel Laloix: I can just jump in thanks... smiles
ShinjuJin Resident: :)

Enzooo Sellers: attending soccer match doesn't qualify as a sport , even if free fight is involved
Storm Nordwind: That's why I have switched to American Football. Far more exciting and entertaining.
Agatha Macbeth: Speaking of which how on earth did the Packers manage to miss the Superbowl?
RebusLost Resident: Violence is the tool used when all other tools fail, and then, if feasible, with care?
RebusLost Resident: Sport gives me indigestion, except swimming, some athletics, and martial arts...
Enzooo Sellers: for the greater good ... it is also a tool to gather and control
ShinjuJin Resident: animals are chemical creatures.... I think we underestimate the effects of group chemistry and presence... that adrenaline to fight/fly multiplied across thousands... then if you add a sense of 'emergency threat to whole identity/way of life'... eek
Storm Nordwind: Aggers, they were inconsistent when it mattered most. And their opponents will now meet the "Deflatriots". ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: :D
RebusLost Resident: Dangers of when crowds become mobs?
Enzooo Sellers: and why
ShinjuJin Resident: and when beliefs are fixed in groups
Storm Nordwind: Beware anyone or any group that uses the word "should".
ShinjuJin Resident: maybe good to have a home team, but sometimes they aren't in the super bowl and you have to sit on someone else's side, and the world won't end :)
RebusLost Resident: Or, "just"? :)
CuriousBeing Resident: or sometimes the Super Bowl comes to you :(
Enzooo Sellers: it is sometimes easy to rally "against" something
ShinjuJin Resident: frowny face? :)
Enzooo Sellers: "Delanda Carthago est"

Storm Nordwind: Just and justice is a term - and concept - long forgotten in the US. Or so it would seem to me.
CuriousBeing Resident: just what you want ... a whole bunch of SB fans in town lol
ShinjuJin Resident laughs
Agatha Macbeth: The bars will love it
CuriousBeing Resident: indeed
Agatha Macbeth: Tell em to mind the cacti
Storm Nordwind: ouch!
CuriousBeing Resident: hehe
ShinjuJin Resident: "with justice charity would not be needed"
RebusLost Resident: A desire to have better sound-proofing, and a more crowd-proof home to live in?

Enzooo Sellers: i live in a remote watermill in the woods
Agatha Macbeth: How wonderful
ShinjuJin Resident: for real? @@
Storm Nordwind: True Shinju. I abhor the smug charity givers here, and the system that makes it necessary.
RebusLost Resident: "Justice is a nice idea, but what most people want is humanity"?
Enzooo Sellers: but i have to travel to office in paris every day
Agatha Macbeth: Always a downside
ShinjuJin Resident: ah, nods... even better. "To live above the law you must be honest"
ShinjuJin Resident: but still... quite a retreat
RebusLost Resident: Only real risk of a watermill tends to be flooding - I know someone flooded three times in last five years...
Enzooo Sellers: never been flooded in 4 centuries
Agatha Macbeth: You lived there a long time then
Storm Nordwind: Good memory. ;-)
ShinjuJin Resident: :)
Enzooo Sellers: I'm an old face remember
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
ShinjuJin Resident snorts
RebusLost Resident: More extreme weather may bring new risks, unfortunately... I wish you the best.
ShinjuJin Resident: for now, a dream
Enzooo Sellers: I can swim
RebusLost Resident recommends avoiding swimming in mill races. :)
Storm Nordwind checks to see whether the white stuff outside is snow or ash from Yellowstone.
ShinjuJin Resident makes note
Agatha Macbeth: Watch out for the wheel too
CuriousBeing Resident: bye for now ... nice to see you all :)
ShinjuJin Resident: Oh dear Storm
ShinjuJin Resident: Okay Curious, ntsy
Enzooo Sellers: the major risk is a very old willow tree too close to the house
Agatha Macbeth: Bye
Storm Nordwind waves
RebusLost Resident: A water wheel that makes you independant of the electricity grid might be good...
ShinjuJin Resident: I need to get going also but really appreciate our conversation today.... has flown by!

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: Yep, back to it
ShinjuJin Resident: please come back everyone ^^
RebusLost Resident: I have the Landmark, now. :)
ShinjuJin Resident: (and feel free to stay and play now too)
ShinjuJin Resident: Wonderful
Storm Nordwind: I too must go. Delivery man is nearly here.
ShinjuJin Resident waves warmly
Agatha Macbeth: Delivering what?
ShinjuJin Resident: thanks again
RebusLost Resident: Thanks for welcome.
Storm Nordwind: A replacement microwave
Agatha Macbeth: Oh my
Agatha Macbeth: Happy cooking
ShinjuJin Resident: such a nice pace of conversation...
Storm Nordwind: Always!
ShinjuJin Resident: okay, will stop gushing, lol
Agatha Macbeth: Bye K
ShinjuJin Resident: bye for real
Storm Nordwind waves
RebusLost Resident: Death of your microwave oven can be traumatic. :)

Korel Laloix: Was more just listening in.
Korel Laloix: Did not seem to stay on the sports idea much though... smiles
RebusLost Resident: I did wonder what the meeting Notecard was, if it wasn't just a general one...
Enzooo Sellers: I just saw the light and came in

RebusLost Resident: This is the first time I've found anyone here, in maybe 5yrs of looking in occasionally...
Korel Laloix: I did not read the card at all... was in too many IMs.
Korel Laloix: Oh wow.. been comming here for five years.
Korel Laloix: You just have to hit it at the right time I guess.
RebusLost Resident: Guess I've been unlucky...
Korel Laloix: have been the only one here and been where when there were no more cusions.
RebusLost Resident: Cushion shortage, then. :)
Korel Laloix: If you want, and if you want to add me, I can Im you if you are on.
Korel Laloix: Great.. i will IM you next time things are on, if you are on.

Korel Laloix: It is a fun exchange most of the time. Sometimes just chat, others some very good thinking material.
RebusLost Resident: Thanks - I've had major health issues, last 3 years, so, mostly only been in SL when I know something is on. I was in SL a lot more before that - maybe an addict. :)
Korel Laloix: I know the feeling... smiles.. not an addict. But Sl has been a great effect on me. Been in almost a third of my life now.
RebusLost Resident: The shape of your life can be funny, when you add up the promises & obligations, and the personal resources you find you've got to answer them with... And, finding room for some fun around the edges...
RebusLost Resident: A third of your life in SL is pretty impressive...
RebusLost Resident: It's only been around since, 2003?
Korel Laloix: yes...
Korel Laloix: I joined in 2005 and am now 28.
RebusLost Resident: That is impressive.
Korel Laloix: And Sl has been my best way for learning the English for sure.
RebusLost Resident: Engish is a funny language - strange, anyway. SL is supposed to be good for learning languages.
Korel Laloix: Makes me think of the words at least.
Korel Laloix: And there are parts of expression that I really don't get into in any other place..

--BELL--

RebusLost Resident: I've seen it claimed that first you learn English, then you need to learn Shakespeare, to understand all the other words and phrases. :)
RebusLost Resident: Shakespear is responsible for so many new words, and ways of saying things...
Korel Laloix: lol. no idea about that. Never read any Shakespeare I don't think. Was supposed to but never did... smiles
RebusLost Resident: Whatever works for you. :)
Enzooo Sellers: there is a great shakespeare theater troup inworld
Korel Laloix: I am not a fiction sort of person really.
Korel Laloix: Just not interested really.... smiles
Korel Laloix: I do like a good play though.
RebusLost Resident: Fiction doesn't work for everybody...
Korel Laloix: My gf is very much into things like that... and she is Russian, so she tried to get me to read some of there stuff as well. Painful. But I give it a try.
RebusLost Resident: Some find it a good way to relax, when there's nothing else...
RebusLost Resident: I've got a friend with dyslexia - only talking books really work for them - literally too painful to read without really good reason...
Korel Laloix: I don't have that issue, but I can imagine.
Korel Laloix: But not that I am out of university, I am strating to read more fiction.
Korel Laloix: Was very difficult when studying.
RebusLost Resident: They've got the variety where the words flash, and change colour, and move around on the page - with a sparkly background...
Korel Laloix: That sounds distracting to me.
RebusLost Resident: Finding something that works for you is good...
Korel Laloix: But if it works for people, I am for it.

Enzooo Sellers: I gave collection of short novels for starters
RebusLost Resident: Any particular genre, or, mixed?
Enzooo Sellers: depending on the reader
RebusLost Resident: Sounds good.
Enzooo Sellers: I've got an old collection with short SF novels by theme, it works well
Korel Laloix: I just can't stand scifi.
RebusLost Resident: I like SF. ;)
Korel Laloix: Boooorrrrrrriiiiinnnggggg and ssssssiiilllllyyyyyy... smiles
Enzooo Sellers: I gave '36 stratagems' lately
RebusLost Resident: Some science fiction is good, some terrible, there's a lot of variety.
Enzooo Sellers: "Stories of god" from Rilke
Korel Laloix: Have an ex the tired to torture me with Buckaroo Bonsai and Star Trek all the time..
RebusLost Resident: Some SF discusses things like morality, philosophy...
Korel Laloix: Surprised at how long that lasted... lol
RebusLost Resident: That's not SF, that pop culture.
Enzooo Sellers: In Star Trek, the earthlings are more or less "planet conscious"
RebusLost Resident: Buckaroo Banzai is arguably post modern SF - you need to know a lot of SF to appreciate it, properly.
RebusLost Resident: Star Trek is (mostly) utopian futurism - a lot of SF is distopian...
Korel Laloix: I consider watching that to be one of the more painful things ever... lol
RebusLost Resident: I'm sorry you suffered...
Enzooo Sellers: you may try the new "Man in the high castle" TV serie

--BELL--

RebusLost Resident: Based on the Phillip K. Dick book?
Enzooo Sellers: yes
RebusLost Resident: Could be fun...
RebusLost Resident: Science fiction has sort of seeped into a lot of popular culture. Though, in a superficial way...
Korel Laloix: No idea on that.
Korel Laloix: How so?
RebusLost Resident: If you're interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man...he_High_Castle
RebusLost Resident: What sort of plays do you like, if you don't mind me asking?
Korel Laloix: Looks at it...
Korel Laloix: Not sure I like much particular.
Korel Laloix: I like comedies.
Korel Laloix: I think I just more like the event really. excuse to dress up and go out.
RebusLost Resident: Even been to a "Rocky Horror Show" performance? :)
Korel Laloix: I have seen that on starge.. was great fun.
Korel Laloix: stage
Korel Laloix: My gf is really into that, has done professional dance, singing and acting.. and some modeling. So it is even better seeing her up on stage. I like anything that way.
RebusLost Resident: Being involved in the performance is good.
Enzooo Sellers: I've been told that lately
RebusLost Resident: Well, having an emotional investment, anyway. :)
Korel Laloix: And there is a bit of a pride rush as well... smiles...
Korel Laloix: Not sure that is the right word though.
RebusLost Resident: Some people claim you can get the same sort of fun from a (good) table-top role-playing game...
Enzooo Sellers: I've been part of a musical (amateur) as a sound engineer, I really enjoyed all of it, even the rehearsal
RebusLost Resident: A pride rush sounds good.
Korel Laloix: I have little understanding of those sorts of games.
Korel Laloix: But if people enjoy them, sounds good to me.
Korel Laloix: LIke interactive fiction, so I might could tolerate that.
Enzooo Sellers: ever seen theatresports ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatresports

--BELL--

Korel Laloix: No idea what that is.
RebusLost Resident: Sounds interesting...
RebusLost Resident: Not sure if it'd work for me, though...
RebusLost Resident: Might be fun to try it in SL...
Korel Laloix: Sounds like it could be fun.
Korel Laloix: I think I would like todo that more RL though... live is so nice.
Korel Laloix: I dont' get Sl dancing in SL either though.
Enzooo Sellers: well it depends on the skills of the battlers but I've seen it already inside a restaurant and at work and it was great

RebusLost Resident: SL dancing is a sort of self-hypnosis, combined with mental rehersal - works for some people.
Korel Laloix: But you don't get the pheromone cloud, the feel of the person you are with, the exercise, etc.
RebusLost Resident: SL tai chi works for some people - particularly those who are house-bound or with physical disabilities.
Korel Laloix: I can understand that.
RebusLost Resident: If you can't get out and smell the people you're dancing with, SL dancing is better than nothing.
Enzooo Sellers: agreed
Korel Laloix: Agreed
Enzooo Sellers: SL meditating works too
RebusLost Resident: I believe there are plans to attach exercise (torture? :) devices so you can exercise at home with others in SL. :)
Korel Laloix: Like the electro stimulous things?
RebusLost Resident: There are SL sessions where you do RL exercise with others in SL - on a trust basis. :)
Enzooo Sellers: works only if you're "group conscious"
RebusLost Resident: I think the idea was more exercise bikes and multi-gyms, than electro stim rigs. :)
Korel Laloix: That sounds at least doable.
Korel Laloix: Well you said torture.. smiles
Korel Laloix: I run six miles as day, so I love a good work out.
RebusLost Resident: There are proposed ways of using a cell phone to detect excessive inactivity - and warn you... Phone health help. :)
Korel Laloix: That sounds annoying vs helpful.
Korel Laloix: Of course I am not exercising when I am at my desk.
RebusLost Resident: I'd love to be in better health, so I could build my fitness level up more effectively...
Korel Laloix: It can be difficult... had a couple of major health issues and took a while to get back going.
RebusLost Resident: The "power your link to SL with your exercise bike" approach might appeal to some. :)
Korel Laloix: That could be fun.. smiles
RebusLost Resident: One reason "home batteries" is attractive, not just "home power generation"...

--BELL--

Enzooo Sellers: gotta go bye don't exercise too much in world
Korel Laloix: OK.. take care
RebusLost Resident: I saw a (suggested) scheme using recycled old vehicle batteries - they often have years of life left in them, just not enough to start a car/truck...
Korel Laloix: Thanks for the chat.
RebusLost Resident: I'd better go - 11pm here, and I still have things to do this evening...
Korel Laloix: Ok.. take care
Korel Laloix: do na da go hv i
RebusLost Resident: Thanks for the chat, and the 'Friend' accept.
RebusLost Resident: Be well...
Korel Laloix smiles