The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

There is good stuff at the end.

Riddle Sideways: Hi Eden
Eden Haiku: Good morning Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: yes, it is starting like a Good morning
Eden Haiku: Beautiful weather here. Laundry day :)
Riddle Sideways: a little foggy, a little ashy and daylight coming on
Eden Haiku: Fires are still burning?
Riddle Sideways: it was laundry day yesterday
Eden Haiku: :)
Riddle Sideways: Fire is now reported to be contained by Aug. 31
Eden Haiku: That's terrible!
Riddle Sideways: they are going to let the interrior burn and only work on containment
Eden Haiku: So ashy August for you ahead, that's sad...
Riddle Sideways: they evacuated a bunch of people that live way out
Riddle Sideways: fire is not really there, but crews are going to set back fires in their area
Eden Haiku: Climate change is with us already....
Riddle Sideways: with the drought and a big fire last year
Riddle Sideways: there is lots of dead grasses
Riddle Sideways: there was a big meeting locally
Riddle Sideways: Everybody came
Eden Haiku: We notice the price of imported fruits and vegetables from California are much higher. And the quality goes down...Economic problems...Did you attend the meeting yourself RIddle?
Riddle Sideways: almost like the local Fiesta (which is conceled this year) for all the locals to get together
Eden Haiku: oh, wonderful! How was it?
Riddle Sideways: partner went, several text if I was there and where in the crowd :)
Eden Haiku: hehe, popular Riddle;)
Riddle Sideways: most times from those meetings there are lots of notes taken and come home to report it all
Riddle Sideways: and will be asked "what about ..."    and not know
Eden Haiku: :)
Riddle Sideways: so some meeting are better for her to go to

Riddle Sideways: Hi, hopping Adams :)
Eden Haiku: Good morning Adams!
Adams Rubble: Hello Eden and Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: Adams, ummm you said you (probably) would not be here today
Riddle Sideways: we win!
Adams Rubble: I lied

          Hey, Adael spoke into public chat and it does not get recorded...  What can be done??

Riddle Sideways: ha, Adael is speaking now, great
Eden Haiku: hehe!!!
Riddle Sideways: lies are ok
Eden Haiku: Good morning Adael, Faenik's twin :)
Riddle Sideways: aren't they
               --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: let's test something
Adams Rubble: Has the progress with the fires gotten any better Riddle?
Riddle Sideways: Adams, what is laundry day in your area?
Adams Rubble: laundry day?

Eden Haiku: Wondering why all the Finnish diapora left PaB: Fael, Moon, Star, Cosmicflower...:( I miss them.
Adams Rubble: This is the way we wash our clothes, wash our clothers, wash our clothes. This is the way we wash our clothes so early Monday morning
Eden Haiku: Yes, and by the way I have to hang laundry on the clothesline in the sun :) Will be back shortly :)
Riddle Sideways: that settles it.
Riddle Sideways: US wash clothes on Mondays and it is Tuesday in Canada
Adams Rubble: Moon is not Finnish but German
Adams Rubble: and Moon runs Hikari
Riddle Sideways: ty, Adael
Adams Rubble: Riddle, are you suggesting that when we all move to Canada, we will have to change our scheduls?
Riddle Sideways: fire is still going, the edge toward our village is mostly stopped advancing, down the road a piece many are being evacuated
Adams Rubble: We can still shoot them dry though, can't we
Adams Rubble: oh my, that is scary
Riddle Sideways: hehehe yes
Adams Rubble: I hope they can get it under control
Riddle Sideways: the shootings will continue until dry
Adams Rubble: Is that the Eucaylptus trees?
Riddle Sideways: estimate is containment by Aug. 31
Adams Rubble: wow
Riddle Sideways: mostly oaks
Eden Haiku: back :)
Riddle Sideways: wb
Adams Rubble: we decided we're all coming up after November and we're bringing our wash and guns
Riddle Sideways: in your absence when decided Tuesday laundry day is a Canadian thing
Adams Rubble: and the Brits unhappy with Brexit are coming too
Riddle Sideways: instead of California slipping into the ocean, it will be moved next to Canada
Eden Haiku: We will wlecome you with op[en arms (and no firearms!(

Riddle Sideways: hi dRuth
Adams Rubble: Hello Druth :)
Eden Haiku: Laundry day is also Monday up here by the way. I<m all="" br="" off="" schedules=""> am off schedule
druth Vlodovic: hey guys
Riddle Sideways: great to see you
Eden Haiku: Hi Druth:)
druth Vlodovic: so you're wearing monday's underwear today?
Eden Haiku: hehe
Riddle Sideways: hmmmmm
Riddle Sideways: TMI
Adams Rubble: what is TMI?
druth Vlodovic: giant ninja turtles
Riddle Sideways: Too Much Information
Adams Rubble: oh
Eden Haiku: Don't worry. I have almost as many clothes as in inventory at the summer house:)
Eden Haiku: Laundry day is determined by the sun. Dryer dries only one towel at the time :)
Riddle Sideways: found this (sort of) funny: http://bizarro.com/2016/07/31/i-virt...do/#more-93505
               --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: one of those small summer house dryers?

Riddle Sideways: Bizarro, is probably not the best source of reality info
Eden Haiku: Yep!
Eden Haiku: Virtual reality wedding :) Like doing laundry in RL and talking about it in SL:)
Riddle Sideways: probably better in that order
druth Vlodovic: lol
Eden Haiku: With a fluffy furry black Finnish hair ball made of love :)
Riddle Sideways: have not washed this suit in Like Furevr
Riddle Sideways: /wonders how to spell forever in valley speak
Eden Haiku: Do they have washing machines in S ^^^
druth Vlodovic: love the little alien voyeur in the corner
Riddle Sideways: Adael meet dRuth
druth Vlodovic: hi adael
druth Vlodovic: welcome to our little corner of unreality

Riddle Sideways: sure that you can buy washing machines for your yurt
Adams Rubble: yes, you can buy washing machines in SL or make them yourself :)
druth Vlodovic: for-Evah!!
Riddle Sideways: have never seen any coin laundrymats though
Riddle Sideways: ty
Eden Haiku: Laundromats would be nice:)
druth Vlodovic: I have seen more than my fair share of SL bathrooms
Riddle Sideways: lol
druth Vlodovic: and yes,at least one laundromat
Riddle Sideways: also TMI
Eden Haiku: WE gather in SL luandromats could talk about our RL laundries :)
Eden Haiku: Oh funny! Will check that place :)
Eden Haiku: And then I will have food for talk in RL reunions:)\
Riddle Sideways: need a landmark
Adams Rubble: Location : Shark anarchy (181, 205, 1501) Sunday night is laundry night. Bring your laundry and your smokes and quarters for the washers and snack machine, and don't worry if your hair is in rollers...because RED ...
Riddle Sideways: wow, thank you (so fast)
Eden Haiku: Wonderful. Thank you Adams!
druth Vlodovic: lol
Eden Haiku: Name of the place is kind of creepy though: Shark Anarchy...
Adams Rubble: that is the sim
Eden Haiku: Still...
Riddle Sideways: would be fun to hang around smoking cigs, in rollers and shooting the breese
Adams Rubble: It is called red heaven@The Landromat
Eden Haiku: Ah thanks, Red heaven sounds better :)
druth Vlodovic: wast watching a TV show called Fractale, where people live in a virtual reality meatspace, and have lampshades and modern art as their avatars
Riddle Sideways: ALWAYS amazed at what Adams knows
druth Vlodovic: got me wondering why so many people spend time in SL recreating mundanity
Eden Haiku: Meatspace ughhh...
druth Vlodovic: I am sure you can do that RL riddle,just grow your hair long enough
druth Vlodovic: hehe,my new favourite term
Riddle Sideways: use to have long hair, age has shortened it to the shoulders
Eden Haiku: loves long-haired men :)
Riddle Sideways: yep, the term Meat has been around in Sci-fi virtual writings for some time
Riddle Sideways: this avs, is the closest to real found in SL
druth Vlodovic: I met a fellow who made a business of taking RL info and photos and making avatars out of them for people
               --BELL--
Adams Rubble: :)
Eden Haiku: There was a place like that in SL...
Riddle Sideways: There is a huge amount of subject material in:
         "[07:40] druth Vlodovic: got me wondering why so many people spend time in SL recreating mundanity"
Eden Haiku: ;0
Riddle Sideways: why look exactly like you, when you can be pretty, young, thin
Eden Haiku: Much better :)
Adams Rubble: Play as Mundane
Riddle Sideways: yet, there have been a few PaB avs that were just like real
druth Vlodovic: making the mundane fantastic maybe?
Riddle Sideways: they need a familuar is ground on?

druth Vlodovic: I knew some religious people who were offended by fiction writing and so forth because it took people away from God's created reality
Eden Haiku: Oh my God!
druth Vlodovic: blasphemy!
Riddle Sideways: true, there are those
druth Vlodovic: or something-itny, can't remember which sin that is
Riddle Sideways: they are not here to defend
druth Vlodovic: oddly enough
Riddle Sideways: :)
Eden Haiku: :)
druth Vlodovic: to each their own, as long as they live by the same mantra
druth Vlodovic: I am only intolerant of intolerance, well, and interference
Riddle Sideways: then there are the avs that are superheroes, zombies, metal, furries, swirls :)
Eden Haiku: My mantra is Adams sing-song now: ``This is the way we wash our clothes, wash our clothers, wash our clothes. This is the way we wash our clothes so early Monday morning"
Eden Haiku: Brb
Riddle Sideways: personal favorite is an energy swirl of aura colours
druth Vlodovic: nifty, I haven't seen that one
Riddle Sideways: "the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round ..."
druth Vlodovic: though many attempt have been made to recreate the "unrezzed state" cloud
Riddle Sideways: yes, 'Ruth'
Riddle Sideways: is that a relative?
Riddle Sideways: tried for the longest time to have a ruth av
Adams Rubble: it is easy, get an under[performing computer
Riddle Sideways: lol
Riddle Sideways: some had difficulties chatting with an energy swirl
Riddle Sideways: or a zebra
Riddle Sideways: lions were not so hard
Riddle Sideways: there is a picture in the archives of the 2 lions chatting at the pavillion
Adams Rubble: yes we had two lions in PaB for a bit
Riddle Sideways: very nice lions
Adams Rubble: they did not eat any of us
Riddle Sideways: always very interesting
Riddle Sideways: one or both were doctors
Adams Rubble: but you wondered where all the Finns went Riddle so maybe they did
               --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: Eden wondered/missed, but maybe
Adams Rubble: whoops, sorry
Riddle Sideways: hard to write a long goodbye text while being eaten by a lion
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: There goes my leg, goodbye PaB
Riddle Sideways: ok! that is not a sentence that was ever dreamed of writing
druth Vlodovic: I was a bunny for a while, so maybe it is just as good i missed the lions too
Adams Rubble: There goes my writing han

Eden Haiku: back
Riddle Sideways: wb
Adams Rubble: wb
Adams Rubble: Thank you all, I will be off
Adams Rubble: I hope you all have very nice days
Riddle Sideways: by Adams, and thank you
Eden Haiku: Bye Adams, you look so elegant!
Riddle Sideways: how many $L per quarter for the wash?
Riddle Sideways: need to get quarters
Riddle Sideways: take pool soaked suit pants to laundermat
Eden Haiku: Sl quarters hehe
druth Vlodovic: I am sure most SL clothing is dryclean only
Riddle Sideways: laughs
Eden Haiku: Just hope the deers will visit while I hang the sheets :)
Riddle Sideways: that is probably so true
Riddle Sideways: and put deer hair on the clean sheets?
Eden Haiku: They are very tidy deers, they would never do that :)
Eden Haiku: Bye for now friends, have a great day. Thank you for this amusing session Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: there is an app "Cardboard Camera" that would take a 360 pic of the deer, sheets and the famous rock
Eden Haiku: Oh? Do you remember the name?
Riddle Sideways: and thanks for the chat
Riddle Sideways: yes! in quotes
Eden Haiku: Ah thanks. Will look it up!
Eden Haiku: Bye Druth, enjoy your day!
druth Vlodovic: ttfn eden
druth Vlodovic: think I'll head out too

Riddle Sideways: druth, that recreating mundane is stuck in thoughts
druth Vlodovic: oh?
Riddle Sideways: thinking about why some build what they do
Riddle Sideways: what the SL experience is
Riddle Sideways: on the login screen, there are destinations
Riddle Sideways: couple days ago went to a consuling center LM
Riddle Sideways: very interesting
Riddle Sideways: mostly offering help for SL/RL issues
Riddle Sideways: but, very interesting
Riddle Sideways: why we shape our reality the way we do
Riddle Sideways: what we bring
Riddle Sideways: and what we leave out
druth Vlodovic: what sort of issues?
Riddle Sideways: easier to give the notecard
               --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: the entire sim has many other good things too
druth Vlodovic: I was thinking about my early days in SL
druth Vlodovic: trying things out
druth Vlodovic: flitting about by mood
druth Vlodovic: noobs can be very flighty emotionally
Riddle Sideways: will put http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlif...uwai/50/198/92 in the log :)
druth Vlodovic: and changeabe
druth Vlodovic: doesn't take long to get "old" :-/
druth Vlodovic: a few years at most
Riddle Sideways: some might get addicted to SL to avoid RL

druth Vlodovic: got me thinking about the argument of making drugs a health issue instead of a legal one
Riddle Sideways: yes
druth Vlodovic: you just make drugs legal and subject to food regulations
druth Vlodovic: "do not operate heavy machinery, contains 15% THC, Made in Mexico" sort of thing
Riddle Sideways: RL needs mental health services available easily, so SL probably needs them too
druth Vlodovic: I imagine that problems would calm down after a shortbit
druth Vlodovic: SL is a mental health service for some
Riddle Sideways: many states are starting those experiences now

druth Vlodovic: a vacation from reality that allows a chance to gain strength
Riddle Sideways: yes
druth Vlodovic: from observation it seems organizms gain strength not from adversity but from a calm after adversity
druth Vlodovic: a lack of pressure
druth Vlodovic: maybe why some peple seek drama and stress over anything else
Riddle Sideways: after pressure
druth Vlodovic: fear of growth

druth Vlodovic: when redefining my morality I found that my start and end points were very similar, but I had to go through a lot of hard stuff in the middle to be comfortable with it
druth Vlodovic: not sure why we need journeys when we aren't really going anywhere
druth Vlodovic: or maybe reality is how it is because it was different and our ancestors went on journeys that brought them here, to a reasonably comfotable place
druth Vlodovic: why people shout "WAKE UP SHEEPLE"
druth Vlodovic: wake up from what?
druth Vlodovic: usually complacency
druth Vlodovic: or outside control of one's life
druth Vlodovic: but maybe we are living in something approaching the best of all possible worlds
Riddle Sideways: /listens because this is all great statements
druth Vlodovic: lol,just dribbling
Riddle Sideways: lots of discussion points in each dribble
druth Vlodovic: all things must be considered if the sheeper is toawaken
druth Vlodovic: huh, I don't have a sheep avatar, I wonder how I missed that one
Riddle Sideways: ha,
Riddle Sideways: have seen a BIG sheep av
druth Vlodovic: Beware the complacency of: MEGALAMB!
Riddle Sideways: smiles
               --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: nice thought

Riddle Sideways: when doing "all things must be considered" some will be 'not time to awaken'
Riddle Sideways: that quantum always exists
Riddle Sideways: must have filters on shutting up negative factoids
druth Vlodovic: we sleep to make dreaming possible
Riddle Sideways: so ergo; we sheep to ...
Riddle Sideways: ummmm what?
druth Vlodovic: I remember thinking it interesting that to strength train you are supposed to exercise very hard then rest for two days
druth Vlodovic: rinse and repeat
druth Vlodovic: modern society seems to want a low level of everything but continuous
druth Vlodovic: maybe why "retreats" are so much a part of religion/spirituality
Riddle Sideways: like you said earlier, growth is after high energy when calm makes space
druth Vlodovic: actually I was told that if i wanted to look nice instead the method is to do low level exercise more often
druth Vlodovic: do we look nice as a society?
Riddle Sideways: yes, was 'told' that too
Riddle Sideways: haven't done it
druth Vlodovic: lol,someday I swear I will go to a gym and try it out
Riddle Sideways: don't think the larger society does it either
druth Vlodovic: which means carefully vetting the nursing homes
Riddle Sideways: yes
Riddle Sideways: is so easier to go into SL to look nicer
Riddle Sideways: mostly
Riddle Sideways: for some
Riddle Sideways: but, what is the image of nicer
Riddle Sideways: is it warped here too?
druth Vlodovic: people make some pretty ugly stuff here
druth Vlodovic: I always wonder about those who don't outgrow it after a few years
druth Vlodovic: or maybe they drift in and out of the worst stuff,rather than dwelling there
druth Vlodovic: interestingly in RL
druth Vlodovic: lots of tattoos around these days
Riddle Sideways: yep, same as RL

druth Vlodovic: I remember a fellow telling me,with no lack of annoyance,that he was told by a social worker that he was into self-mutilation because he had tats
druth Vlodovic: so therefore he must have been abused
druth Vlodovic: others call it "body art"
druth Vlodovic: an ancient practice in many cultures,
Riddle Sideways: shame that social workers, mental health workers, etc. bring their own issues, hang-ups, etc. to work with them
druth Vlodovic: heh,I suspect that is why many people join the ranks

druth Vlodovic: anyway, I have to go
druth Vlodovic: have fun riddle
Riddle Sideways: you don't have to be crazy to work here ...
Riddle Sideways: but it helps
druth Vlodovic: but it helps :P
               --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: it helps
druth Vlodovic: I wish you the best of realities
Riddle Sideways: thank you so much for these last thoughts
Riddle Sideways: have your bes day
druth Vlodovic: hugs
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