Riddle Sideways: thank you, Listener Master
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
Bleu Oleander: hi Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: morning Bleu
Riddle Sideways: was just thinking of lost friends
Riddle Sideways: do you remember Kit Ciaco
Bleu Oleander: nope
Bleu Oleander: before me?
Riddle Sideways: was only here in PaB a short time
Riddle Sideways: made stuff
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: hi Adams!
Adams Rubble: Hello bleu and Riddle :)
Adams Rubble: sorry I am late, I had far to come :)
Riddle Sideways: hi Adams
Riddle Sideways: :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Riddle Sideways: how far
Bleu Oleander: did you walk?
Riddle Sideways: flew?
Riddle Sideways: and boy are your arms tired
Adams Rubble: a few miles from the house as the clock was nearing PaB time
Adams Rubble: cycling--it is like a fall day here
Adams Rubble: beautiful weather
Adams Rubble: what's the topic?
Bleu Oleander: no topic yet?
Adams Rubble: How is the TSK coming along?
Riddle Sideways: was going to be remembering Kit C
Riddle Sideways: ummmm embrassed to say that that reading has stalled
Riddle Sideways: but don't tell Eliza
Riddle Sideways: :}
Bleu Oleander: have missed you in the TSK sessions!
Adams Rubble: you are ahead, I haven't started yet :)
Riddle Sideways: thanks for a way to look at it
Bleu Oleander: have you not read it yet Adams?
Adams Rubble: I read most of it a long long time ago
Adams Rubble: I am reading about 10 books at the moment. hehe. I keep starting them
Bleu Oleander: wow 10?
Bleu Oleander: I thought I was bad ... reading several at once
Adams Rubble: yes, but my finish rate is not good
Adams Rubble: the pile keeps getting bigger and bigger
Bleu Oleander: well sometimes I allow myself not to finish ... time is precious
Riddle Sideways: Oh yes! that pile by the bed
Bleu Oleander: what's the most interesting one you are reading now?
Riddle Sideways: all with bookmarks at about page 13
Adams Rubble: Oh, I forgot tht pile
Riddle Sideways: who is that Q at?
Adams Rubble: The one I am determined to finish is Carl bernstein's biographny of Hillary
Bleu Oleander: is it good?
Adams Rubble: I started wo of her autobiographies but have given them up
Adams Rubble: two
Bleu Oleander: I just read "the making of donald trump"
Adams Rubble: it seems to be a balanced view of her
Bleu Oleander: is that a recent book?
Adams Rubble: at times I admire her or Bill and times I am very angry at them
Adams Rubble: no 2007
Adams Rubble: but it seems to be the only one the critics feel is balanced
Adams Rubble: I recommend it
Bleu Oleander: is there a good one that includes her state dept time?
Adams Rubble: I was reading her autobiography (Hard Choices) for that time
--BELL--
Adams Rubble: the writing in her books is kind of detached which probably is due to her ghost writers
Adams Rubble: Do you rememeber the Saturday Night Live parody of the David Frost interviews with Nixon?
Adams Rubble: dan Ackroid did Nixon
Bleu Oleander: going back a bit ... not clearly but yes
Adams Rubble: "Then we had something we called Breakfast"
Adams Rubble: "There was a handle for hot water and another for cold water"
Bleu Oleander: :)
Riddle Sideways: :)
Bleu Oleander: sorry, have to leave for early meeting ... nice to see you both
Bleu Oleander: enjoy your day
Adams Rubble: bye bleu :)
Riddle Sideways: by Bleu
Bleu Oleander: bye bye
Riddle Sideways: talk later
Bleu Oleander: kk
Adams Rubble: in any case, sometimes Hillary's childhood years reminded me of that
Adams Rubble: sometimes
Riddle Sideways: ah
Adams Rubble: not as far out though :)
Adams Rubble: it was like going through the motions
Adams Rubble: not much insight
Adams Rubble: a typical baby boomer from the 50s
Riddle Sideways: SNL has had Hilary and Hilary parodies on for so many years
Adams Rubble: yes, I have not found them that good myself
Riddle Sideways: am trying to find a ref from last night that reminded of Adams
Riddle Sideways: was on NPR
Riddle Sideways: can't find it
Adams Rubble: He was probably the most qualified person ever to run for president
Adams Rubble: #6 that is
Adams Rubble: I keep thinking of him when they say Hillary is
Adams Rubble giggles
Riddle Sideways: oh well, giving up
Riddle Sideways: the interviewee was saying she was sort of a Cathedral junkie
Riddle Sideways: goes to everyone she can
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: I was in the Masonic temple in Philadelphia last weekend
Adams Rubble: a good number of overdecorated rooms
Adams Rubble: quite inspiring :)
Adams Rubble: done in the late 1900s
Riddle Sideways: wow, pretty
Riddle Sideways: 1873
Riddle Sideways: ty google
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: the decoration is a bot later
Adams Rubble: bit
--BELL--
Adams Rubble: no bots
Riddle Sideways: darn, need more decorator bots
Riddle Sideways: Adael likes typos
Adams Rubble: yes
Riddle Sideways: ha, and Adael appears
Riddle Sideways: how can you find things in inventory that fast? oh yeah, search
Riddle Sideways: was in inventory yesterday
Riddle Sideways: and found lots of stuff by Kit Ciaco
Riddle Sideways: Wingsong dojo
Adams Rubble: My inventory was organized by a trained librarian
Riddle Sideways: lol
Riddle Sideways: was remembering the colorful/playable Flutes
Riddle Sideways: Boxy really loved it
Adams Rubble: we have unusual stuff in our SL Closets
Riddle Sideways: Kit gave Boxy the objects and code
Riddle Sideways: and the little cardboard box was off to building all sorts of stuff
Riddle Sideways: Went to the Wingsong Dojo LM and it is gone
Adams Rubble: so much is gone :(
Riddle Sideways: ah yes!
Adams Rubble: very Buddhist of SL
Riddle Sideways: :)
Riddle Sideways: :)
Adams Rubble: the flowers were designed by Moon for the old pavilion
Adams Rubble: do not work well here
Riddle Sideways: ha, are you wearing them?
Adams Rubble: yes
Adams Rubble: watch
Riddle Sideways: wow, the whole field of flowers tilt as you dance :)
Riddle Sideways: there got a photo, but should do a movie :)
Adams Rubble: I am reading a biography of Marpa
Adams Rubble: I was not aware that he snag songs like Milarepa
Adams Rubble: I am working my way back from Milarepa; have one on Naropa and one on Tilopa
Riddle Sideways: fact checking references really fast ... probably tired Google out
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: /wondering what the search pages will now try to advert
Adams Rubble: I have been going to class with a Kagyu teacher
Adams Rubble: these guys are important in that line
Adams Rubble: Once when I was in Princeton, Pema gave me a wonderful quote from Tilopa
Adams Rubble: sort of don't think. don't remember, don't do anything
Adams Rubble: there were six do nots
Riddle Sideways: but, you 'do not' remember it?
Riddle Sideways: followed the instructions
Riddle Sideways: very good
--BELL--
Adams Rubble: I have it on a piece of paper next to my bed :)
Adams Rubble: hehe, about remembering
Riddle Sideways: with the pile of 'Must Read's
Adams Rubble: yes
Riddle Sideways: yesterday there was some bedroom furniture rearrange
Riddle Sideways: and the must read pile had to temp move
Adams Rubble: uh oh
Riddle Sideways: in putting it back
Riddle Sideways: just flipped it upside down
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: to start at the oldest end
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: #7 Do Not put more in the Must Read pile
Riddle Sideways: until one is removed :)
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: tell Amazon to stop delivering
Riddle Sideways: computer error: Out of Stack Space
[08:05] Adael: We are born of love; Love is our mother. -Rumi
Riddle Sideways: thank you Adael
Adams Rubble: can you believe the hour has flown by?
Adams Rubble: I hope you have a very nice day
Riddle Sideways: once again we have spent an entire hour on nothing :)
Adams Rubble: don;t remember
Riddle Sideways: yes. and please continue your best day
Adams Rubble: thank you
Adams Rubble: bye for now
Riddle Sideways: thank you
Riddle Sideways: by All
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Pema Pera: The more free translation by Ken McLeod is:
Let go of what has passed.
Let go of what may come.
Let go of what is happening now.
Don't try to figure anything out.
Don't try to make anything happen.
Relax, right now, and rest.
Pema Pera: the first three are about time,
the next two about input/output: sensori/motor,
the last one only is positive: rest
http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2010/01/2010.01.09_01%3a00_-_The_six_words_of_advice_of_Tilopa?highlight=tilopas+six+lines
Scathach and Pema discuss the Six Lines of Tilopa. :)
The way I remember him describing the lines as each of the earlier as resting in the last,
as if first. So a kind of 'start at the end' instruction.
Pema Pera: Here are Tilopa's "six words": Let go of what has passed. Let go of what may come. Let go of what is happening now. Don't try to figure anything out. Don't try to make anything happen. Relax, right now, and rest.
Pema Pera: This "rest" for me is like "stillness"
Santoshima Resident: yeah
Eliza Madrigal: wonderful yes
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: stillness can hold all the potential for being and yet appear as at rest
Pema Pera nods
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: I like reading that text from bottom up... think you suggested that once Pema... has the same sensibility perhaps... like a container...
Pema Pera doesn't remember, but likes the idea :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Santoshima Resident: top, downward ~ bottom upward / inhale and exhale
Santoshima Resident: all the 6 lines happen at once
Pema Pera nods
Pema Pera: no time
https://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2012/05/2012.05.07_19%3a00_-_Swimming_Ravens_and_Quantum_Sheep
Eos Amaterasu: http://www.presencing.com/projects/sp_theater.shtml
Eliza Madrigal: Interesting description. Have you taken part in this kind of thing before?
Eos Amaterasu: Not exactly that, but I've been at events which are maybe more extended and complete versions of that, such as the all-night Javanese shadow puppet play
Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni puts link into his bookmark collection
Eliza Madrigal: I learned only recently that the word 'theory' derives from the same word that theatre dervies from... thought that was fascinating connection
Calvino Rabeni: That's fascinating :)
Eos Amaterasu: theories: ways of seeing
Eliza Madrigal: yes :)
Eos Amaterasu: language is amazing
Calvino Rabeni: It shows the truer early relationship between knowing and Drama
Eos Amaterasu: playing as
Calvino Rabeni: as it is a Dramatic Universe
Eliza Madrigal: hmmm, nods :))
Eos Amaterasu: I guess there's some connotation of acting and knowing that you're acting (or, being, and knowing that you're being, is acting)
Eliza Madrigal: yes, seeing your views
Eos Amaterasu: which means awareness could rest in itself
Eos Amaterasu: gulp
Eliza Madrigal smiles, breathes
Eos Amaterasu: (sixth word of Tilopa :-)
Eos Amaterasu: rang sar zhag: rest in itself
Calvino Rabeni: That archaic consciousness still carries a lot of truth that has been "forgotten" by moderns
Eliza Madrigal: have been thinking about that fellow a lot... about 'beyond effort' and Rest that is active
Calvino Rabeni: Like, the classic imporance of the Art of Rhetoric
Calvino Rabeni: as an essential part of the education of the mind
(snip)
Calvino Rabeni: Good point - rest is active - the paradox is it a kind of fulcrum - like the pivot of a lever - least movement but most active
https://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2010/06/2010.06.08_19%3a00_-_Conscious_Embodiment edited 03:24, 24 Aug 2016