The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

​Riddle allowed me to be the guest editor for this session. Thank you Riddle. 

Riddle Sideways: thank you, Listener, sat here not clicking. good that you nagged

       I entered at wee bit late.

Adams Rubble: Hello Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: welcome leaping/bounding Rubble
Riddle Sideways: :)
Adams Rubble: good morning :)
Riddle Sideways: there
Riddle Sideways: there is an odd calm today
Adams Rubble: It is a beautiful autumn day here
Adams Rubble: in RL

Riddle had had monitor problems

Riddle Sideways: just sitting here staring at a monitor (in RL) that was not working yesterday
Adams Rubble: hmm, at the pavilion too
Adams Rubble: ohhhhh
Adams Rubble: do you keep a spare?
Riddle Sideways: it stopped showing things mid-afternoon
Riddle Sideways: yes, 2 monitor on this system
Adams Rubble: wow
Riddle Sideways: tried everything to test-fix it
Riddle Sideways: turned it off late and went away
Riddle Sideways: to music, to TV, to bed
Riddle Sideways: lay awake often during the night
Riddle Sideways: thinking on what could be done
Riddle Sideways: in the morning some tests would need be done
Riddle Sideways: got up
Riddle Sideways: turned it on
Riddle Sideways: went to get coffee
Riddle Sideways: it is working
Riddle Sideways: fine
Riddle Sideways: all is ok, fine and calm
Adams Rubble: ahhh, the little monitor elves needed a good nights sleep
Riddle Sideways: guess that guesses could be made
Riddle Sideways: much thoughts could be put into it
Riddle Sideways: how fruitful worrying all night was
Riddle Sideways: then a pattern emerged
Riddle Sideways: yesterday morning all was going great
Riddle Sideways: wrote a program to solve a long problem
Riddle Sideways: and it worked the first time
Riddle Sideways: :)
Riddle Sideways: used the answer and got 2 steps down the server fixes
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: then in the afternoon another bug came up
Riddle Sideways: that stopped all progress
Riddle Sideways: one would start believing in astrology, signs, cycles
Adams Rubble: and monitor elves
Riddle Sideways: those magic things we explain it all away to ourselves and others
Riddle Sideways: "you don't have to be paranoid to know they are all out to get you" - unknown
Adams Rubble: we do the same to explain our anger and other emotions :)
Adams Rubble: make up reasons we are angry
Adams Rubble: until we convince ourselves
Riddle Sideways: probably a word for that
Adams Rubble: delusion?
Riddle Sideways: rationalization?
Adams Rubble: yes
Riddle Sideways: justification?
Riddle Sideways: madness?
Adams Rubble: monitor elves
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: yep

HyperNormalization and Videos

Riddle Sideways: in other conspiracy thoughts, was watching the link Zen put in the guardian session
Riddle Sideways: about HyperNormalization
Riddle Sideways: it was too long, like 2.5 hours
Riddle Sideways: watched about an hour Sunday
Adams Rubble: yikes
Riddle Sideways: paused it and walked away
Riddle Sideways: went back to it while monitor on other machine was being tested
Riddle Sideways: and it was pulled off youTube
Riddle Sideways: the one long BBC video was pulled and 16-part short vids are up there
Riddle Sideways: with bad audio
Adams Rubble: yikes again
Riddle Sideways: adds that to the list of ____ that happened
Adams Rubble: was it good?
Adams Rubble: the video?
Riddle Sideways: mmmm, jury is still out on good or bad or between
Riddle Sideways: moments were very good
Adams Rubble: I almost never get around to watching videos people send me
Riddle Sideways: true
Riddle Sideways: it was a 'I am going to tell you all the truth that 'they' are hiding from us" documentary
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: usually it is us who are hiding truth from us :)
Riddle Sideways: there was a section on the Utopian-ness of the Internet
Riddle Sideways: and virtual societies
Riddle Sideways: no borders
Riddle Sideways: no political
Riddle Sideways: no government controls
Riddle Sideways: (mostly)
Riddle Sideways: remember back when there were no adverts on the internet?
Adams Rubble: oh yes, before there were pictures )
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: almost gave Eden a google search url from the browser to show what weird results
Riddle Sideways: and noted that it still contained old searches too
Riddle Sideways: had not seen that before

Riddle asks for my thoughts

Riddle Sideways: so, what is trending in Adams' universe?
Adams Rubble enjoyed the sound of birds singing this morning
Adams Rubble has been busy with other things and has not done much reading
Riddle Sideways: :(
Adams Rubble is appreciating the variaty of ecosystems that exist close by
Riddle Sideways: thought that the report was going to be that all 13 book starts were now finished! lol
Adams Rubble giggles
Adams Rubble: my rler has been threatening to return a pile of books to the library
Adams Rubble: the lection still has us all distracted I think
Adams Rubble: election
Riddle Sideways: idle threats
Riddle Sideways: how easily distracted
Adams Rubble: only 15 days to go
Riddle Sideways: woooot
Riddle Sideways: oh goodie
Adams Rubble: hehe
Riddle Sideways: already planning on people coming over to watch the returns
Adams Rubble: let's hope they give us a few days before the next one
Riddle Sideways: oh dear, yes!
Riddle Sideways: thinking up drinking games for the Tuesday night
Adams Rubble: I guess out there you do not have to stay up late to find out
Riddle Sideways: right
Adams Rubble: may be over in your afternoon :)
Riddle Sideways: the whole thing is projected finished before CA votes get counted
Adams Rubble: not sure when the count the early voting
Riddle Sideways: the most electorial votes and they aren't needed
Adams Rubble: good to have some reserves :)

Don't Worry

Riddle Sideways: there is always troops of broadcaster that state that with 0.2% of the vote in we are projected the state goes to Alfred E Newman
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: how often have you spent 90-sec staring at poor grammar, misspeeling, etc. of a sentence that the RLer wrote?
Adams Rubble notes that we have come full circle to "what me worry?"
Riddle Sideways: yes!!!!
Adams Rubble: it is a disgrace when we have to stare at rlers mistakes
Riddle Sideways: yes
Riddle Sideways: one of the times around the cycle we sang "Don't worry, be happy"
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: cycles upon cycles
Riddle Sideways: it is cycles all the way down

Carousels

Adams Rubble: "Then the child moved ten times round the seasons Skated over ten clear frozen streams"
Riddle Sideways: the Circle Game
Adams Rubble: "We're captive on the carousel of time We can't return we can only look behind From where we came And go round and round and round"
Adams Rubble: in the circle game :)
Adams Rubble: thanks Joni
Adams Rubble: People fall off the carousel as we go round
Adams Rubble: and new ones get on
Adams Rubble: waiting for our turn to hop off
Adams Rubble: but it will keep going round and round :)
Riddle Sideways: the condition of semi-hopped off
Adams Rubble: do you mean not enjoying the ride?
Riddle Sideways: semi-retired
Riddle Sideways: along for the ride
Riddle Sideways: enjoying the show
Riddle Sideways: and not enjoying also
Adams Rubble contemplates being on different carousels...the work carousel, the life carousel...the PaB carousel....
Riddle Sideways: so many cycles, rides, trips, carousels, planes, states
Riddle Sideways: intersecting
Adams Rubble: ohhhh
Riddle Sideways: its a wonder you can think at all
Adams Rubble: or on top of each other?
Adams Rubble did not learn about carousels in high school :)

Howz it goin? 

Riddle Sideways: got all those juggling carousels in the air
Riddle Sideways: and somebody asks howz it goin
Riddle Sideways: you slice all the way down and evaluate the state of each
Riddle Sideways: sum it up to 67%

Detaining You

Adams Rubble: or just say "fine" :)
Adams Rubble giggles
Riddle Sideways: "oh pretty good, can't complain"
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: if I complain you're likely to leave
Adams Rubble: I say fine "to detain you"
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: why not just answer "I can not be bothered to calculate an answer to your silly question"
Riddle Sideways: that you don't want to really hear
Adams Rubble:

Sid Corman poem:

“It isnt for want
of something to say--
something to tell you--

something you should know--
but to detain you--
keep you from going--

feeling myself here
as long as you are--
as long as you are”

https://media.sas.upenn.edu/pennsound/authors/Corman/Corman-Cid_Poem-beginning-it-isnt-for-want_KWH_11-19-01.mp3

Riddle Sideways: like that
Adams Rubble: it gets in your head :)
Riddle Sideways: yea it do
Adams Rubble: The hour has flown by :)
Adams Rubble: no more time for detaining
Riddle Sideways: fun phrase
Adams Rubble: be nice to your monitor elves :)
Riddle Sideways: so, you need to get outside to the birds, walks, environs, pretty leaves
Riddle Sideways: before the snow elves come
Adams Rubble: something like that :)
Adams Rubble: white witch
Adams Rubble: nasty woman
Riddle Sideways: :) SNL debate had "nasty women" cups
Adams Rubble: yes
Adams Rubble: did you hear Elizabeth Warren yesterday?
Riddle Sideways: no
Adams Rubble: all those nasty women are going to walk with their nasty little feet and cast their nasty little votes
Riddle Sideways: like it
Adams Rubble: something like that
Riddle Sideways: that how it is rigged
Adams Rubble: I hope you have a very good day.
Riddle Sideways: hope you do too
Adams Rubble: thank you
Adams Rubble: bye for now :)
Riddle Sideways: thank you
Riddle Sideways: by