The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray. The comments and photos are by Bruce Mowbray.

Qt Core: Hi Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, QT!
Bruce Mowbray: I bought a new Apple keyboard to use with my PC...
Bruce Mowbray: I'm still learning the in's and out's of it.
Qt Core: didn't they reacted like matter and antimatter ?
Bruce Mowbray: (like, for example, the "hot" keys that make for gestures in SL.)
Bruce Mowbray: Actually, they are for the most part compatible.
Qt Core: just a joke, i didn't know Apple used a pc compatible connector, USB ?
Bruce Mowbray: Which surprised me -- but I researched that before I made the purchase.
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, almost 100% compatible.
Bruce Mowbray: But on the Apple keyboard, there is no "Print Screen" key.
Bruce Mowbray: and there are also a couple of keys that only work with Apple hardware.
Bruce Mowbray: but that's OK.
Bruce Mowbray: Everything else seems to work fine.
Bruce Mowbray: I REALLY like the smoothness of the Apple keyboard.
Bruce Mowbray: which is why I bought it.
Bruce Mowbray: MUCH faster.
Qt Core: Modern keyboards have many weird and usually not very useful keys, especially if you use several of them you don't want to become addicted to "non standard" keys and layouts
Bruce Mowbray: http://store.apple.com/us/question/answers/product/MB110LL/B/can-i-use-this-keyboard-on-a-pc-desktop/Q2AUUTKJ4J29HXY4F
Bruce Mowbray: I also found a neat program called "Keytweak"
Bruce Mowbray: It enables you to change what any key on the keyboard does.
Bruce Mowbray: Cool!
Bruce Mowbray: Although that Apple web page says that the function keys will not work,
Bruce Mowbray: every one of them works just FINE with my system.
Bruce Mowbray: and I did NOT install the Apple drivers, as suggested.
Qt Core: well, the answers are pretty old, so they may be outdated
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, outdated.
Bruce Mowbray: After reading several such pages,
Bruce Mowbray: I decided to go ahead and buy the keyboard.
Bruce Mowbray: I was delighted that it worked perfectly the first time out...
Bruce Mowbray: Didn't have to download and install new drivers, or anything.
Bruce Mowbray: The ONLY thing that seems a bit amiss is
Bruce Mowbray: that there is no Print Screen key on the Apple keyboard.
Bruce Mowbray: But I can work around that -- no problem.
Qt Core: Do you use it often ?
Bruce Mowbray: I used to use the Print Screen key to activate my "Snag-It" program...
Bruce Mowbray: which is a really cool screen-saver.
Bruce Mowbray: with lots and lots of editing capabilities.
Bruce Mowbray: But I can get into Snag-it now through another route...
Bruce Mowbray: so no big problems.
Qt Core: i usually (as in the rare times I need it )I use the screen capture function in Irfanview
Bruce Mowbray: What is that? Irfanview?
Bruce Mowbray: Never heard of that.
Qt Core: A pretty old program, mainly a image viewer
Bruce Mowbray: Eliza!
Qt Core: free, obviously ;-)
Qt Core: Hi Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Bruce!
Eliza Madrigal: :)) Hi Qt ^.^
Eliza Madrigal enjoys the way Bruce's avie flashes a toothy smile when waving
Bruce Mowbray: QT and I were discussing the use of Apple keyboards with PC hardware.

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Bruce Mowbray: [flashes another toothy smile]
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Zon!
Zon Kwan: heya
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zon :)
Qt Core: I prefer heavy duty keyboard, I have this on this pc: http://ma.wishmesh.com/2011/02/ibm-lenovo-usb-prefered-pro-keyboard-unboxing-images/04-ibm-lenovo-usb-prefered-pro-keyboard/
Qt Core: there is also the issue of curly braces...
Eliza Madrigal: interesting
Bruce Mowbray: {I have curly braces} [as well as straight braces]
Bruce Mowbray: What I really like about the Apple keyboard is how softly one can press the keys.... very smooth and fast.
Qt Core: Italian layout keyboard lacks them, so I use a layout keyboard
Bruce Mowbray: kk. "layout" keyboards - a new term for me.
Qt Core: programming without easy curly braces is terrible
Bruce Mowbray: oh my, in C especially. I can imagine.
Bruce Mowbray: I only write code in Visual Basic, so no problem.
Qt Core: You could get them with ctrl+alt and something or AltGr and something but still ugly
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm.
Qt Core: c/java/php/javascript all of them need those and I use just those languages
Bruce Mowbray: Have you heard of Keytweak?
Qt Core: before you mentioned it ? no :)
Bruce Mowbray: I found it just today and installed it.
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.tucows.com/thankyou.html?swid=327616
Bruce Mowbray: a really cool little program that enables you to reconfigure the keys on your keyboard....
Bruce Mowbray: So, you could get a "g", for example, to perform what a "$" would do...
Bruce Mowbray: and virtually any other changes.
Bruce Mowbray: I tried to set up a Print Screen key with it, but so far have not been successful with that.
Qt Core: nice, but we would be back at the "non-standard" issue, the day you sit at someone else's pc you are on your own
Bruce Mowbray: for sure!
Bruce Mowbray: Personal computers truly ARE "personal."
Bruce Mowbray: I have not yet trained the new keyboard to change my typos. ;-)
Qt Core: i have a few tricks configured on my work pc and when I go to someone els'se pc I look dumb to others and feel limited almost as if I was disabled to myself
Bruce Mowbray: I can imagine
Bruce Mowbray: Personally, I'm more of a software man, myself. Hardware issues sort of dumbfound me.
Bruce Mowbray: Yesterday I wrote a facial-recognition program.
Qt Core: me too, like with cars -  I just drive them and buy gasoline
Bruce Mowbray: because all the news media were so hyped on surveillance videos of the Boston bombers.
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I am the same with cars.
Qt Core: It would be nice to connect it to the peep hole in the door
Bruce Mowbray: As long as they have four wheels outside and one inside to steer with, I'm cool.
Bruce Mowbray: Your floor has a peep hole?
Bruce Mowbray: (wonders if that's how the chipmunk gets into the living room in his typist's house).
Bruce Mowbray: Welcome, Bela!
Eliza Madrigal: Hello Belacupuntura :)
Eliza Madrigal: like your tag "creative chaos"
Bruce Mowbray: Can I give you a notecard explaining what Play as Being is about, Bela?
Bruce Mowbray: Also, I need to ask your permission to post anything you might say in chat into our online wiki.

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Bruce Mowbray: But, please do join us if you wish.
Bruce Mowbray: [she's vanished]
Bruce Mowbray: "Creative Chaos" is a good description of my misadventures into the stock market -- and my writing computer code.
Bruce Mowbray: I like the term and will use it in the future.
Qt Core: Bruce, you may look at http://www.autohotkey.com/ for your keyboard trick need
Bruce Mowbray: TY! I will check that out.
Qt Core: Do you think we have bored Eliza and Zon enough ? with our technobabbling ? ;-)
Zon Kwan: nods
Qt Core: hi Steve
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Stevie :)
stevenaia Michinaga: greetings all
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, steve!
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
Zon Kwan: hi steve
Eliza Madrigal: not bored... just no pressure to say anything...haha
Bruce Mowbray: [agrees that technobabble has run its course]
Eliza Madrigal: it is interesting to hear what you're up to
Eliza Madrigal: Hi San :)
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, San!
Zon Kwan: hi san
stevenaia Michinaga: Hi San
Santoshima Resident: greetings everyone
Bruce Mowbray: What are YOU "up to," San?
Zon Kwan: waves
Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now, Zon!
Santoshima Resident: bye zon
Qt Core: Hi San
Santoshima Resident: Finished working for today, having some lettuce for lunch
Bruce Mowbray: AHHH! A lettuce lunch!
stevenaia Michinaga: sandwich?
Santoshima Resident: sunny out, so will venture out in a sort while
Santoshima Resident: a place of lettuce
Bruce Mowbray: Sunny here, also.
Santoshima Resident: Some might call it a salad
stevenaia Michinaga: was just at an earth day celebration
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm. My typist makes it a tenet of his faith to eat a salad every day.
Bruce Mowbray: Earth Day? Isn't that on the 22nd?
Santoshima Resident: Great to both salad and Earth Day
stevenaia Michinaga: well a weekend celebration, had a vegan pizza for lunch cooked in a wood burning oven in a trailer
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.earthday.org/
Santoshima Resident: the wood burning oven is in the trailer? or you and the pizza were?
Bruce Mowbray: Wow! Sounds cool!
stevenaia Michinaga: checks for toasted feet, I think the pizza was baked in it
Bruce Mowbray: better that the pizza be toasted there than the feet.
Santoshima Resident: sounds very good
Bruce Mowbray: My typist heats his house with a wood burning stove -- in the winter.
Qt Core: now we only deed pizzas
Qt Core: need
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Bruce Mowbray: What is a "deed pizza"?
Bruce Mowbray: Oh!
Bruce Mowbray: sry!
Bruce Mowbray: too fast on this new keyboard, you understand.
Santoshima Resident: are you talking about Earth Day?
Qt Core: you may get a ticket for being so fast, you know ;-)
Bruce Mowbray: We can, surely.
stevenaia Michinaga: I started to
Bruce Mowbray: Let's talk about Earth Day.
Santoshima Resident: ! ok
stevenaia Michinaga: lot's of environmental presentations, framing, fracking, etc
Bruce Mowbray: {fascinating that steve brings both "framing" and "fracking" into the mix}
Santoshima Resident: brb water boiling
Eliza Madrigal: difference between creative chaos and reckless plundering
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Bruce Mowbray: kk. Please go get your tea, dear san.
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, superb question, Eliza.
Bruce Mowbray: Seems to reside in the word "creative" -- Is there such a thing as "ethical" creativity -- versus unethical creativity?

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Santoshima Resident: *
Bruce Mowbray: You know, in the 18th Century, folks thought that "nature" could be improved upon -- part of the reason for their elaborate gardens.
Bruce Mowbray: Now, my typist doubts that entire assumption...
Bruce Mowbray: so he lets his brush grow...
Bruce Mowbray: NO ONE would confuse his place with a garden!
Eliza Madrigal: Too, tending can mean engagement
Bruce Mowbray: Engagement is also cool.... but how can we be sure that it is "ethical"?
Eliza Madrigal: not sure we can be sure from every angle... often think about how, formulas and rules and laws have good intentions, but if we think they are a pass for responsiveness in the moment, not such a great thing
Bruce Mowbray: [My typist's front yard is a jungle.]
Santoshima Resident: good for the birds
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Zen!
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, and I love the birds!
Zen Arado: Hi all
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zen :)
Santoshima Resident: hi Zen
Eliza Madrigal: I live near the Everglades... and have seen so many angles of plundering and then fixing, but fixing after plundering had caused irreparable changes, so therefore causing more damage...
Eliza Madrigal: I guess I am not always sure humans are able to see a wide scope
Zen Arado: Florida was all like the Everglades at one time?
stevenaia Michinaga: usually never
Eliza Madrigal: where I live now was Everglades at some point not so long ago
Zen Arado: Some guy built canals and drained it and then built hotels
Zen Arado: I remember reading that somewhere years ago
Zen Arado: and it wasn't that long ago at the turn of the twentieth century
Zen Arado: ?
Eliza Madrigal nods... they convinced for a little piece and then more and more
Eliza Madrigal: it is doing rather well now but every few years there is a move for more - the economy doing badly stopped progress though
Zen Arado: What is doing rather well Eliza?
Eliza Madrigal: Everglades as a whole, replenishing itself in places where its left alone
Zen Arado: Ah okay
Zen Arado: I remember travelling through them in an airboat
Zen Arado: it was very noisy I remember
Eliza Madrigal: :) mhm
Zen Arado: and I didn't see any alligators :(
Santoshima Resident: never seen
Eliza Madrigal: none at all?
Zen Arado: nope
Santoshima Resident: the Everglades
Eliza Madrigal: it is the only ecosystem I think, in which alligators and crocodiles live together
Santoshima Resident: they loom mythic in imagination
Zen Arado: Hi Sunji :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) great creatures upon the earth
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sun :)
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Sunji!
Santoshima Resident: hi sun
Zen Arado: I see people appearing in this sidebar
Zen Arado: a really useful feature of the new viewer
szavanna Resident: hi there Brucey, San, Zenji
szavanna Resident: Lizji
Santoshima Resident: what's it called, Zen?
Zen Arado: I'm glad I don't use those old-fashioned viewers :-)
szavanna Resident: hi Qt and Stevie too °͜°
Santoshima Resident: the viewer
Qt Core: Hi Sun
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
stevenaia Michinaga: waves
Zen Arado: it's the latest version of the Linden Labs viewer
Santoshima Resident: ty
Bruce Mowbray: [Is exclusively a Firestorm dude now.]
szavanna Resident: me too
Zen Arado: if someone has been speaking to you in IM it stays up in red
szavanna Resident: dudette
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
szavanna Resident: ;p
Bruce Mowbray: That thing behind San and me is a view out the window behind my typist's computer.

stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Eliza Madrigal: You answered as I was about to ask :) nice
Bruce Mowbray: To show you how much of a jungle he has created in his front yard -- by letting nature do its thing.
Santoshima Resident: hey who is that bird?
Bruce Mowbray: That bird is a woodpecker.
Bruce Mowbray: I can give you a better view of him, if you wish.
Santoshima Resident: not one that i recognize

--BELL--

Santoshima Resident: beautiful!
Bruce Mowbray: Oppps! That's the female version.
Bruce Mowbray: oh well.
Bruce Mowbray: The bird feeder is about four feet outside the window behind my computer... so i see these beautiful birds coming and going whenever I am using the computer.
 
Eliza Madrigal: so sweet.. can't help imagining petting her head with the tip of my finger
szavanna Resident: beautiful :)
Eliza Madrigal: the woodpeckers all over this area are very tall, lean
Bruce Mowbray: Cool, Eliza!
Eliza Madrigal: though they look the same otherwise... and they are called "red bellied sapsuckers" but their bellies are not red ^.^
Zen Arado: bright colours!
Eliza Madrigal: not too shy, either... my son is some kind of master at getting very close
Santoshima Resident: tunes in
Eliza Madrigal: yes, walks without disturbing the space somehow
Zen Arado: I have never seen a woodpecker
Bruce Mowbray: [ ponders "walks without disturbing the space, somehow -- and feels that to be an excellent ethic for Earth Day]
Bruce Mowbray: Really, Zen?
Eliza Madrigal: wu wei gardening/taking only what is given
Eliza Madrigal: seagulls around your place, Zen?
Zen Arado: Sparrows, seagulls, blackbirds, thrushes
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmm.
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Zen Arado: Robin red breasts
Bruce Mowbray: Cardinals? Goldfinches?
Zen Arado: sometimes a Wren
Zen Arado: nope
Bruce Mowbray: Ahh! Loves the tiny wren.
Zen Arado: last place I lived we used to get finches, siskins, blue tits, coaltits
Bruce Mowbray: If one puts out feeders for the birds one wishes to attract, that sometimes works.
Zen Arado: I can't feed birds where I live
Bruce Mowbray: (with surprises, too!)
Zen Arado: I used to feed birds in my last place
Zen Arado: we get rats
Zen Arado: and pigeons
Bruce Mowbray: oh my.
Zen Arado: rats come up out of the Marina
Eliza Madrigal: oh, goodness
Zen Arado: just the odd one mind
Zen Arado: there isn't a plague of them :-)
Zen Arado: but they do if you'd leave food around
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: like here with the opossums
szavanna Resident: °͜°
szavanna Resident: great pic
stevenaia Michinaga: you have many friends there, Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: My typist has had a chipmunk in his living room all of this week.
Bruce Mowbray: Doesn't quite to know what to do about it... but will let nature do her thing.
Bruce Mowbray: This photo is of a squirrel on the woodpecker feeder - out the window behind my typist's computer.

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray: Yes, steve, many friends.
Bruce Mowbray: i must be off now. Thank you all for being here today.
stevenaia Michinaga: bye Bruce
szavanna Resident: ty for the pictures Brucey
szavanna Resident: °͜°
Santoshima Resident: bye bruce ~ be well
Eliza Madrigal waves to Bruce
Qt Core: bye bruce
Eliza Madrigal: ty
Zen Arado: bye Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: YW! and bye for now.
Santoshima Resident: blinked for a moment and I missed the chipmunk photo
Eliza Madrigal: :) :) chipmunks - don't have those here that I know of
Eliza Madrigal: it was very fast....
Santoshima Resident: and small ...
szavanna Resident: we have great birdlife and lots lizards
szavanna Resident: and spiders
Eliza Madrigal: oooo
szavanna Resident: and snakes
szavanna Resident: but not venomous
Eliza Madrigal: no?
szavanna Resident: no they are usually only house snakes
stevenaia Michinaga: time to go, bye all
szavanna Resident: small brown ones
Eliza Madrigal: bye Stevie
szavanna Resident: take care Stevie :)
Qt Core: bye steve
Santoshima Resident: bye steve
Zen Arado: bye Steve
Santoshima Resident: me too, enjoy the day and the creatures!
Eliza Madrigal: I'm definitely not out and about enough, appreciating the birds
Eliza Madrigal: bye San :) you too
Qt Core: bye san
szavanna Resident: me neither
szavanna Resident: take care San :)
szavanna Resident: Just taught Bafana from Africa Live sim to DJ
szavanna Resident: so now he is streaming and sounds very happy :)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
szavanna Resident: http://shoutcast.tekstuff.net:11050
Eliza Madrigal: :)
szavanna Resident: music from Guinee
szavanna Resident: hmm gotta go enjoy the Saturday :)
szavanna Resident: we should do DJ class too
szavanna Resident: °͜°
szavanna Resident: I just downloaded Mixxx
Zen Arado: sure ;)
szavanna Resident: hehe
szavanna Resident: lots ideas
szavanna Resident: Liz typing me :)
Zen Arado: byee
szavanna Resident: take care Zenji, Qt :)
Qt Core: bye