The Guardian for this meeting was Zen Arado. The comments are by Zen Arado.

Started at Kira because of region restart:

How to be quiet:

Zen (zen.arado): Hi Sunji :)
Sunshine (szavanna): hi Zenji :)
Sunshine (szavanna): ah ok I see - I can't get to the pagoda
Sunshine (szavanna): usually I come later
Sunshine (szavanna): and by then its ok
Zen (zen.arado): happens every week usually
Sunshine (szavanna): yes
Zen (zen.arado): at this time
Sunshine (szavanna): whats the plan for today?
Zen (zen.arado): don't know
Sunshine (szavanna): I am being quiet °͜°
Zen (zen.arado): is there a topic?
Sunshine (szavanna): trying not to get busy
Sunshine (szavanna): not really
Sunshine (szavanna): really
Zen (zen.arado): can I be quiet too? :)
Sunshine (szavanna): we had no guardian meeting so no topic
Zen (zen.arado): oh
Sunshine (szavanna): hehe wanna do some meditation ?
Zen (zen.arado): we talk too much anyway
Zen (zen.arado): or I do
Zen (zen.arado): :)
Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
Sunshine (szavanna): ok any ideas for how to be quiet?
Zen (zen.arado): no
Zen (zen.arado): it never works
Sunshine (szavanna): ;p
Sunshine (szavanna): what doesn't work
Sunshine (szavanna): quietness?
Zen (zen.arado): trying to be quiet
Sunshine (szavanna): hmm wanna try?
Zen (zen.arado): meditation is about being quiet
Zen (zen.arado): just sitting quietly
Sunshine (szavanna): ok shall we sit quietly till someone arrives?
Zen (zen.arado):

'Simplicity is essential in meditation. But simple does not mean easy. It's much easier to have a busy, distracted mind. It's also much easier to take up a lot of complicated, detailed meditation techniques. Unfortunately, most of these techniques eventually get in our way. This is why very few of us wake up.'
 
 Hagen, Steve

Sunshine (szavanna): :)
Sunshine (szavanna): so simple
Zen (zen.arado): in PaB we sit for 10 minutes and then talk about it for half an hour :)
Sunshine (szavanna): ;p
Sunshine (szavanna): giggles
Sunshine (szavanna): but its a good start
Zen (zen.arado): hmm maybe
Sunshine (szavanna): how much should one be quiet?
Zen (zen.arado): no rule for it
Zen (zen.arado): I missed an all day sitting last Saturday in RL
Zen (zen.arado): it is a group that meets first Saturday each month
Zen (zen.arado): it evolved
Sunshine (szavanna): ah yes I remember you saying
Zen (zen.arado): we used to have a strict program
Zen (zen.arado): because it was started by the Zen group
Sunshine (szavanna): yes I remember you doing the long retreats
Zen (zen.arado): we used to have periods of 30 mins meditation then 10 mins walking meditation
Sunshine (szavanna): yes
Zen (zen.arado): some readings and listen to a CD
Zen (zen.arado): and usually a bodyscan meditation
Zen (zen.arado): sometimes it would be silent all day
Sunshine (szavanna): Paul still visiting regularly?
Zen (zen.arado): yes
Sunshine (szavanna): :)
Zen (zen.arado): but I never see him
Sunshine (szavanna): hmm difficult to go to the zen center?
Zen (zen.arado): but that group now we mostly just sit meditation/walking meditation quietly all day
Zen (zen.arado): I have never been able to get into the Zen centre in 8 years
Zen (zen.arado): and the retreats are too difficult for me now
Sunshine (szavanna): ;(
Zen (zen.arado): so...no Zen
Sunshine (szavanna): but zen is everywhere
Zen (zen.arado): ha yes
Sunshine (szavanna): whispers: ;P
Zen (zen.arado): I am more interested in non duality perspective now anyway
Sunshine (szavanna): are there groups to explore that?
Zen (zen.arado): I could talk to Paul by phone if I wanted
Sunshine (szavanna): kk
Zen (zen.arado): no groups where I live
Sunshine (szavanna): kk
Zen (zen.arado): I listen to Darryl Bailey talks
Sunshine (szavanna): on youtube?
Zen (zen.arado): no, his website
Zen (zen.arado): http://darrylbailey.net/about/
Zen (zen.arado): Hi Eliza ;)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): alohashalomnamaste
Sunshine (szavanna): hi Liz ❤
Sunshine (szavanna): hehe that sounds great
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ❤
Zen (zen.arado): religiously conjoined greeting :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and the three words as each serving as hellogoodbye
Sunshine (szavanna): here is a youtube : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7IAZ_QMipM
Sunshine (szavanna): ah yes I found the main site also
Zen (zen.arado): Darryl is coming to England to lead a retreat
Sunshine (szavanna): ah interesting
Zen (zen.arado): he was here two years ago
Sunshine (szavanna): I wonder if he comes to africa ;o)
Zen (zen.arado): nope
Zen (zen.arado): he has a full time job
Zen (zen.arado): works in a warehouse in Manitoba, Winnipeg
Sunshine (szavanna): Liz we are talking about meditation and quietness, zen and non duality :)
Zen (zen.arado): not a full time spiritual teacher
Sunshine (szavanna): warehouse?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): zenonduality
Sunshine (szavanna): :))
Zen (zen.arado): yes
Zen (zen.arado): just an ordinary guy
Sunshine (szavanna): winnipeg is Canada right?
Zen (zen.arado): yes
Sunshine (szavanna): I met someone from there
Sunshine (szavanna): in hungary :)
Zen (zen.arado): he spent most of his life in spiritual investigation though
Zen (zen.arado): was a Buddhist monk for a long time
Zen (zen.arado): people send him questions to answer
Zen (zen.arado): http://darrylbailey.net/questions-answered/
Zen (zen.arado): he does a question session each month
Sunshine (szavanna): kk
Sunshine (szavanna): checking
Zen (zen.arado): he wrote a couple of books too
Zen (zen.arado): he is too simple for lots of people
Zen (zen.arado): they prefer complicated theories

Psychology and spirituality:

Zen (zen.arado): I notice so much psychology creeping into spirituality these days
Zen (zen.arado): worries me
Sunshine (szavanna): can you explain more?
Sunshine (szavanna): or give example
Zen (zen.arado): even MBSR
Zen (zen.arado): have two friends doing an MA in MBSR
Zen (zen.arado): one gave a reading at last meeting I was at and it was all about evolutionary psychology
Zen (zen.arado): there is always this division to me in spiritual enquiry
Zen (zen.arado): people who want to fix their psychological problems
Sunshine (szavanna): hmm spirituality is such a vague term
Zen (zen.arado): and people who just want to know 'what is this?'
Sunshine (szavanna): ponders
Zen (zen.arado): I am in the latter group
Sunshine (szavanna): is it better if those two don't mix?
Zen (zen.arado): good question
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes
Zen (zen.arado): what do you think?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): good question
Sunshine (szavanna): hmm
Zen (zen.arado): Eliza?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I love the question
Sunshine (szavanna): I think its good to make this distinction
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): think we live in a unique time
Zen (zen.arado): Hi Yaku :)
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): hey everyone
Sunshine (szavanna): hi Yakuji :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and that many who come to meditation are going to come through a door of personal or psychological inquiry in some way
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Yaku!
Zen (zen.arado): there is always this division to me in spiritual enquiry
 [07:29] Zen: people who want to fix their psychological problems and people who just want to know 'what is this?'   

pondering this Yaku

Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I used to feel that division starkly - not so much anymore
Sunshine (szavanna): hehe wanted to paste the same thing
Zen (zen.arado): yes many come to spiritual enquiry through mental suffering
Sunshine (szavanna): yes
Sunshine (szavanna): Tolle went through a very hard time
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes
Zen (zen.arado): oh yes
Zen (zen.arado): deep depression
Sunshine (szavanna): ponders
Zen (zen.arado): but we can awaken without going through that
Zen (zen.arado): ?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): each, and each one's desire is very unique, and if some find better life circumstances and state of mind using meditative technologies, that seems a good thing - I do agree there needs to be a distinction between that and "great awakening"
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but people will pursue what is in their hearts as spaciousness allows
Zen (zen.arado): and you can't make the assumption that all spiritual enquiry is to heal psychological problems ?
Zen (zen.arado): yes Eliza
Sunshine (szavanna): no but they tend to help
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me nods
Sunshine (szavanna): but better separate or make a distinction too
Zen (zen.arado): it's that last assumption makes me feel uncomfortable
Sunshine (szavanna): "exploration" or "healing"
Zen (zen.arado): and when I see psychologists giving talks at Zen centres
Sunshine (szavanna): the goal is different
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me nods... in giving goals

Spiritual materialism:

Eliza (eliza.madrigal): what we're talking about in a sense is spiritual materialism
Zen (zen.arado): this makes me uncomfortable : http://www.upaya.org/dharma/mindsigh...ess-pt-1-of-9/
Zen (zen.arado): ah yes exactly Eliza
Zen (zen.arado): fixing 'me'
Zen (zen.arado): did you ever read that book?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): no.... however I do think self-improvement can open up
Zen (zen.arado): Chogyam Trungpa 'Spiritual materialism'
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ah that one , yes
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I began a poem the other day
Zen (zen.arado): pavilion is back if anyone wants to go there?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Self Treasure Chest
Sunshine (szavanna): we can go

Back to pavilion:

Eliza Madrigal: can I finish a thought... won't take long and I think speaks to what you are asking...
szavanna Resident: 's current display-name is "Sunshine".
Zen Arado: yes go ahead Eliza...sorry for interruption
Eliza Madrigal: there is a sutra or "Song of Enlightenment" that says.... (no interruption just not as great with multiple lines today)
Eliza Madrigal: "when awake, all karmic hinderances are fundamentally empty...but when not awake we must repay our debts."
Eliza Madrigal: what I think that points to is relative level and absolute... so in a sense ... there is much to learn and have fun with on the level of learning and self improvement..
Eliza Madrigal: but "awake" is something else....
Zen Arado: yes
Eliza Madrigal: and at the "no -level or all-levels" of Awake.... all those things at the relative level are open anyway
Eliza Madrigal: accessible in a sense and nonhinderances
Eliza Madrigal: so it is a matter of heart's desire I feel
Eliza Madrigal: it is fine to improve our lives and learn a lot and fun
Eliza Madrigal: and, desiring Awake isn't necessarily an easier sense of life in the sense of better self image
Zen Arado: yes
Eliza Madrigal: (done)
Eliza Madrigal: thanks
szavanna Resident: ( rezzing :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: thank you eliza
szavanna Resident: but listening
Zen Arado: the relative level is great but people cling too tightly to it I feel
Zen Arado: our great art and literature
Zen Arado: science

szavanna Resident: sings - I can see clearly now the rain is goneee
Eliza Madrigal: isn't that very personal... like, if you were a master with student who said they desired great enlightenment... their individual issue may be clinging to art and literature and missing the point
Eliza Madrigal enjoys Sunji's voice
szavanna Resident: :))
Zen Arado: and the fact of trying to understand with the mind and words
szavanna Resident: I am not really comfortable with enlightenment :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: please say more
szavanna Resident: it forces me to have a goal
szavanna Resident: like a line one passes through
szavanna Resident: or something that needs to be defined
Zen Arado: that's how lots see it
Zen Arado: something always in the future
Zen Arado: to be worked at
szavanna Resident: brb
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Zen Arado: really it is how we really are
Eliza Madrigal: sort of takes away the future really
Zen Arado: already
Zen Arado: without all the words and concepts
Zen Arado: the whole overlay
Eliza Madrigal: that's how "karmic hinderances" become "fundamentally empty"
Zen Arado: yes
Eliza Madrigal: and then it doesn't even make sense to talk about becoming I guess
Zen Arado: yes
Zen Arado:

'The point is, whatever it is will never ultimately be put into words. Thoughts and words fragment wholeness; they break up a unified reality into separate things: bodies, chairs, tables, trees, the sun, the sky, me, you. The world of thought is the world of duality, the world of things. Foster, Jeff

szavanna Resident: ( back )
Eliza Madrigal: I guess I'm most comfortable with the notion of very individual paths and motives and have given up on expecting others to have the same heart longing I may have, etc
Zen Arado: wb Sunji :)
Eliza Madrigal: ty Zen, wb Sun
szavanna Resident: ty Jis ;o)
Yakuzza Lethecus: wb
Zen Arado: yes very important Eliza
Zen Arado: we can only explain what we can see ourselves
szavanna Resident: yes so if we give it a word like enlightenment .... it implies that everyone has to reach something that is the same for all
Eliza Madrigal nods... do agree Sun... enlightenment implies "more lit up" or better somehow
Zen Arado: Darryl says we cause ourselves syffering with descriptions and conceptions and thinking, theorising about reality
Eliza Madrigal: maybe why masters eventually stop talking and just hit people with shoes? lol
szavanna Resident: and also it implies that only few can achieve such a thing
Zen Arado: because there are so many contradictions
Zen Arado: yes
Eliza Madrigal: I think that is a false notion... enlightenment as a getting

Longing for silence:

Zen Arado: I was starting to explain to Sunji about how I missed going to my all day meditation on Saturday
szavanna Resident: words can be overwhelming
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Zen Arado: because nowadays all we do is just sitting and walking meditation all day
szavanna Resident: especially if you are not so good with English :)
szavanna Resident: of course it depends on the words too :)
Zen Arado: and I love that silence and peacefulness
Zen Arado: we still chat a bit
Eliza Madrigal: I think you're right on point Sun... even the most amazing teachers I know or have heard resort to using some words with qualifications
Zen Arado: I still feel a longing for the silence of lomger retreats too
szavanna Resident: that is what I mean with the building classes ....to move on to other things for a bit to balance the words
Eliza Madrigal nods Zen... understand....
Eliza Madrigal: paB retreats are not Zen retreats for sure
Eliza Madrigal nods Sun
Zen Arado: SL isn't so good for longer meditation though
szavanna Resident: they are great ....pab retreats :)
Zen Arado: you don't know if people are actually there

Study buddies:

szavanna Resident: 2 days ago I went to this study buddies group
szavanna Resident: where one can be officially AFK hehe
szavanna Resident: and we were all doing something
Zen Arado: :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
szavanna Resident: this one guy from Romania was doing english grammar excercises
szavanna Resident: someone was writing a story
szavanna Resident: and another person was busy with a poem I think
Zen Arado: kinda companionable
szavanna Resident: and from time to time we checked local chat
Eliza Madrigal: sounds lovely
szavanna Resident: to see how far we are
szavanna Resident: it was fun
szavanna Resident: noone felt uncomfortable about the silence
Zen Arado: it's like being in a marriage...you don't talk all the time

szavanna Resident: hehe
szavanna Resident: for example ..Yaku seems very quiet :)
Zen Arado: but nice to have someone around to say a line to or make a remark about something
szavanna Resident: but is that a problem
szavanna Resident: :P

Yakuzza Lethecus smiles at sunshine
Zen Arado: not always big long serious discusions
szavanna Resident: :) smiles back
Eliza Madrigal smiles at Yaku
Zen Arado: maybe we need a pab buddies group?
Yakuzza Lethecus appreciates the moment
szavanna Resident: I would love it
Zen Arado: I typed Buddhies first :)
szavanna Resident: :)
szavanna Resident: hehehe
szavanna Resident: even better
Zen Arado: buddhistic slip :)
szavanna Resident: lol
szavanna Resident: Zenji can be so funny
Eliza Madrigal: :) buddhies - like that
Zen Arado: for people like Riddle who are on the computer most of the day would be good
Zen Arado: or me if I am riting
szavanna Resident: yes and for me
Zen Arado: writing
szavanna Resident: riting :P
Eliza Madrigal: SL is too distracting for me when I'm working on other things unless they are SL related
Zen Arado: or anyone who just wants to check in now and then
Zen Arado: yes that would be the problem
Zen Arado: could be distracting too
szavanna Resident: hmm for me - it depends on the day

Eliza Madrigal experiences radiant blessings of love
szavanna Resident: most of the time I leave SL on
Eliza Madrigal nods... you have your groove
szavanna Resident: not really good hmm
szavanna Resident: when one wants to focus
Zen Arado: I had a study buddy couple of years ago
Eliza Madrigal: when I was first in SL it used to be helpful... I would stay seated at buddha center or zen retreat for long stretches
Zen Arado: writing a story about that
Eliza Madrigal: nice
szavanna Resident: I used to have a friend like that at the beginning of SL too
Zen Arado: nah she didn't do much study work
szavanna Resident: we used to spend days at sandboxes
szavanna Resident: and we were both building
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Zen Arado: it was a university coursae
Zen Arado: I usually work hard at those
Zen Arado: I have to
szavanna Resident: yes thats serious business :)
Zen Arado: maybe it's just pride
Eliza Madrigal nods... it is also a matter of not wearing down tech for me... I basically overheated one computer with SL :)
szavanna Resident: hehe
szavanna Resident: yes it takes sooo much resources
Eliza Madrigal: but along the way... there have been friends... with whom one checks in all day
Eliza Madrigal: many channels
Zen Arado: I have never had SL on all day
Eliza Madrigal: mail, mail chat, skype, chat logs, quick IMs inworld
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Zen Arado: maybe I'm not good at multitasking
Yakuzza Lethecus: i don´t think any human can really multitask
Zen Arado: agree Yaku
szavanna Resident: sometimes one has to try
Eliza Madrigal: (notices men typing that :P)
szavanna Resident: ;D
szavanna Resident: kids ask me things all in the same time
Yakuzza Lethecus: haha :)
szavanna Resident: so suddenly I develop 2 extra hands
Zen Arado: it is really being able to switch very quickly from one thing to another
Eliza Madrigal: well that is much harder than multitasking
szavanna Resident: not easy
Zen Arado: women have to learn to do it with children
szavanna Resident: it takes time to get into the rhythm of another task
Eliza Madrigal: Sun and I talked about this the other day... the way *everything* is connected and flowing one into the other... harder to section off "one thing" than to do a million
szavanna Resident: hmm yes
Zen Arado: maybe do things on a shallower level?
szavanna Resident: and it got crazy during the preparations for the birthday
szavanna Resident: yes
szavanna Resident: and I prefer doing something properly
Zen Arado: yes
Eliza Madrigal: I don't think so necessarily... when all those channels are open, inspiration may be pouring from various sources that may not otherwise
szavanna Resident: so that leaves me unsatisfied
szavanna Resident: hmm kk
Eliza Madrigal: ah... well can still overdo
Zen Arado: this writing course has really taught me the value of using my subconscious
Zen Arado: leaving a piece of writing for a while

Eliza Madrigal: for the record this is basically why I think zen and tibetan buddhism compliment one another :) one many lists and rituals and activities and one stopping
Zen Arado: when you come back you have new ideas
Zen Arado: which is which Eliza?
Eliza Madrigal: :) well that's sort of my point, but the methods on the surface look like one filling up or accomplishing to incalculable proportions, and the other emptying
Zen Arado: Zen is full of rituals and forms too
Eliza Madrigal nods
Zen Arado: you would be surprised
Zen Arado: and with very exacting prescribed forms
Zen Arado: even coming into a zendo you have to perform certain bows
szavanna Resident: it reminds me of the question should one be separated from society to be a good buddhist .... or be an active member of the community
Eliza Madrigal nods... and hold hands in a certain way... but you aren't "accumulating"
Eliza Madrigal: exactly Sun
Eliza Madrigal: in the Ox herding pictures he eventually goes back to the marketplace and there is "intimacy with all things" :))
Zen Arado: they strike a wooden 'han' before a sitting session for 15 minutes
Zen Arado: and so complicated how you do that
Zen Arado: has to sound like a ping pong ball dropping
Eliza Madrigal: isn't it the same in writing.... accumulating words and pages then chopping it down
Eliza Madrigal: neat Zen... have a video clip?
szavanna Resident: wooden han?
Zen Arado: have never seen one
Zen Arado: yes
Zen Arado: and the services with prostrations
Eliza Madrigal: ah, yes guess both traditions are big on those
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Zen Arado: with bells at certain intervals and the teacher doing prostrations
Zen Arado: and chants
Eliza Madrigal: sounds exhausting :) hah
Zen Arado: and all the different functions of people

Comet and Kira japan:

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Comet, nice to see you
Zen Arado: I was chantleader sometimes
szavanna Resident: hi comet :)
Zen Arado: Hi Comet
comet Morigi: Hi, everyone.
Eliza Madrigal: we've met before but I don't remember if you've been to a playasbeing session before?
Yakuzza Lethecus: hello comet
comet Morigi: I've not been the session, yet.
Eliza Madrigal: welcome :)
szavanna Resident: would you like to join us?
Zen Arado: yes welcome
szavanna Resident: :)
comet Morigi: I sometimes read of PaB onWeb. but only get confused.
szavanna Resident: what is confusing ?
Zen Arado: the conversation is recorded - are you happy that anything you say is added tro a wiki?
comet Morigi: not concrete.
szavanna Resident: yes so much info on the wiki
Eliza Madrigal: the conversations move fast and overlap and each participant is in their own place
Eliza Madrigal: along with being together but also in own place, hah
comet Morigi: Wasn't I bothering your discussion?
Eliza Madrigal: but art projects too, etc
szavanna Resident: not at all
szavanna Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: never a bother to have visitors
comet Morigi: I see the dome exhibiton AaB.
Zen Arado: I sent you a notecard explaining what we do Comet
szavanna Resident: ah yes :)
comet Morigi: since, I'm the Art instructor of Kira Japan.
Zen Arado: ah great
Eliza Madrigal: Nice... you know PaB guardians and "friends of PaB' can take part in the projects
Eliza Madrigal: maybe it would be fun to coordinate together sometime
szavanna Resident: I am teaching Pabers to build - its like an art school
comet Morigi: PaB is yet translated into Japanese.
szavanna Resident: yes :)
Eliza Madrigal: only for the nondual railway :)
szavanna Resident: it would be great to do things together
Eliza Madrigal: it would
Eliza Madrigal: as long as there were a few who could translate the main instructions for others, and we had notecards in both languages
Eliza Madrigal: it might be wonderful
comet Morigi: I've been to KiraJapan for 3 years. but PaB is still mysterious.
szavanna Resident: I made a book with the art installations in the dome

Eliza Madrigal: what kinds of things is Kira Japan doing?
comet Morigi: Philosophy,
comet Morigi: Medical guidance
Zen Arado: I went to the philosophy one time but the translator is not good enough
szavanna Resident: for us Kira Japan is mysterious :))
comet Morigi: general or basic or social science.
Eliza Madrigal: :)))
szavanna Resident: ah nice
comet Morigi: and Artology.
Zen Arado: a woman calle YO?
Zen Arado: called
comet Morigi: She got a break for months.
szavanna Resident: now its someone else?
Zen Arado: she is good
Eliza Madrigal: it would be great to have an overlap meeting ... we could come visit you (someone could translate) and you could visit us (same)
comet Morigi: Ye, new one.
szavanna Resident: Yo?
Zen Arado: she was talking about something I find interesting
Eliza Madrigal: Yo Haiku?
szavanna Resident: ah ok who is the new teacher
Eliza Madrigal: :) maybe Kiremimi would come
Zen Arado: yes..google translator isn't much use for Japanese
Eliza Madrigal: ohhhhh
Eliza Madrigal: would love that ::pouts::::
Eliza Madrigal: lol
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, I see
Eliza Madrigal: I wish I could stay.... really have to go but I love the idea of getting to know one another as groups better
Zen Arado: we talk about many things here
szavanna Resident: yes it would be great
Zen Arado: spirituality, art
Zen Arado: yes
szavanna Resident: I must also go
Eliza Madrigal: hugs and thanks all around
szavanna Resident: great meeting you Comet :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye eliza
Eliza Madrigal: good to see you Yaku!
Zen Arado: nice meeting you Comet
szavanna Resident: hope we can meet again and chat about art
szavanna Resident: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: sunshine,comet and zen
Zen Arado: thanks for coming everyone
Eliza Madrigal: great Comet, thanks
Eliza Madrigal: IM too, with any questions of course
Zen Arado: byee
szavanna Resident: hugs all :)
Eliza Madrigal: hugs
Yakuzza Lethecus hugs back
Zen Arado: yes many called Zen in SL
Zen Arado: hugs
szavanna Resident: see u soon Zenji
Zen Arado: byee Sunji :)
Zen Arado: you too
Zen Arado: did you say it was alright to post your comments on the wiki Comet?
Zen Arado: just as part of the conversation?
Zen Arado: yes we post all the conversation on a wiki
Zen Arado: otherwise I have to delete anything you said
Zen Arado: or change your name to 'visitor'
Zen Arado: yes
Zen Arado: great !!
Zen Arado: it is a lot of work having to to do that :)
Zen Arado: thank you
Zen Arado: see you again I hope Comet :)
Zen Arado: byee
Zen Arado: ok