2015.03.28 01:00 - too kind hearted for that place

The Guardian for this meeting was Wol.

Wol Euler: hello Bhang, nice to see you again
Bhang Tyran: holy cow wol its good to see you i think im early?
Wol Euler: depends why you are here :)
Wol Euler: if you're here for the 1am session, then no
Bhang Tyran: just kinda popped in am i intuding?
Wol Euler: nope, just me so far
Wol Euler: intrude away
Bhang Tyran: thank you namaste
Wol Euler smiles.

Bhang Tyran: i just came from philo house annex
Wol Euler: what's that?
Bhang Tyran: really?
Wol Euler: sorry :)
Bhang Tyran: haha
Bhang Tyran: you guys are too kind hearted for that place. its supposed to be a place for discussion
Bhang Tyran: like this
Bhang Tyran: but mostly shenanigins and crass
Wol Euler: ah. Enough said. I'm too old and too sensible to think that raising my voice improves the quality of my discussion
Bhang Tyran: the neighbors are fighting outside right now
Bhang Tyran: you are a wise person
Wol Euler smiles modestly.
Wol Euler: I try to be
Wol Euler: or at least to act as though I were
Wol Euler: perhaps that might be enough.
Bhang Tyran: its all any of us can really do
Bhang Tyran: right hahaa
Wol Euler nods.

Bhang Tyran: are you waiting for others?
Wol Euler: officially, yes. These 1am sessions are sparsely attended, so I don't really reckon with many people turning up
Wol Euler: I'm here in part just for me, a nice calm start to the day
Bhang Tyran: not that im disinterested
Wol Euler: understood
Bhang Tyran: what fuckin time zone are you in?
Wol Euler: CET, Germany
Wol Euler: it's 9:12 am
Bhang Tyran: im at 1:12
Bhang Tyran: am
Wol Euler: so Pacific coast time
Bhang Tyran: maaaaaaaybe
Wol Euler grins.
Wol Euler: okay
Bhang Tyran: haha yeah oregon
Bhang Tyran: i assume you in the staets?
Wol Euler: nope, Germany
Bhang Tyran: hahaha i love SL

--BELL--

Bhang Tyran: i love that timer
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: it's been a good thing for us
Bhang Tyran: i have a meditation timer on my phone that i have go offf every hour
Bhang Tyran: all day
Wol Euler: and do you?
Bhang Tyran: it chimes on every hours
Bhang Tyran: hour
Bhang Tyran: its just a reminder
Wol Euler: understood :) do you then stop and meditate?
Bhang Tyran: sometimes i cant stop moving physically but i do recognize the moment mentally oooooooh
Wol Euler: oka
Wol Euler: that's enough, I think
Wol Euler: meditation is about the mind, not the body (IMHO)
Bhang Tyran: mind in motion
Bhang Tyran: im no guru but it works for me
Bhang Tyran: i very much apreciate yoga and tai chi
Bhang Tyran: do you have any similar interests
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: not really, no
Bhang Tyran: hmm
Wol Euler: I'm not a very physical person
Wol Euler: I enjoy yoga when somebody make me do it, but I'm not motivated enough to get off my ass every week on my own
Bhang Tyran: im not either i mostly just talk about the principals
Bhang Tyran: hahaha
Wol Euler: I walk a lot, and let my mind go blank as I do
Wol Euler: walking meditation
Bhang Tyran: its still yoga
Wol Euler: "doing" walking instead of just letting it happen as usual
Bhang Tyran: walking yoga
Wol Euler: I like that :)
Bhang Tyran: hahahahahhaha

Wol Euler: and I bought a bicycle last wekend, which I haven't ridden yet. I'm lookimg forward to getting on that
Bhang Tyran: im gonna spread the word
Wol Euler smiles.
Bhang Tyran: biking is good
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Bhang Tyran: i live in portland
Wol Euler: I loved it when I was young
Bhang Tyran: portlandia
Wol Euler: indeed :)
Wol Euler: I've been told that I am "a very Portland person", not sure how to take that
Wol Euler: but I think it was meant well
Bhang Tyran: i dont ride myself but respect the activity
Bhang Tyran: i wish i could see how my home town is portrayed i n other countries
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: positively, as far as I can tell. Most people seem to think htat it's how America *should* look if there idiots and racists and close fascists were not running the country
Wol Euler: *closet
Bhang Tyran: iwow...
Wol Euler points to Indiana.
Bhang Tyran: sorry what is indiana?
Bhang Tyran: 127
Wol Euler: the governor has just signed a bill allowing stores and restaurants etc to refuse service to GLBT people if their religion would be hurt by doing so
Bhang Tyran: time is the master of all slaves
Wol Euler: which is such fucking ignorant bullshit
Wol Euler: my "religion" says that it is okay to kill ignorant bigots

--BELL--

Bhang Tyran: yeah that is a dissapointment
Wol Euler: so I shall go to Indiana and EVERY THING WILL BE FINE because my religion said so
Bhang Tyran: shh
Wol Euler: anyway
Bhang Tyran: i agree
Bhang Tyran: and most people i know agree also
Wol Euler: that is also what the world thinks about Portland :)
Wol Euler: non-ignorant and non-bullshit place
Bhang Tyran: right
Bhang Tyran: its so hard to explain from the inside
Wol Euler nods.
Bhang Tyran: ive never left the states like most americans
Bhang Tyran: i dont want to get to deep
Wol Euler: the water is fine :) you won't drown, trust me
Wol Euler: the worst that will happen is that you might discover some tasty new food
Bhang Tyran: but there is really a fear of "foreigners" its so sad
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Bhang Tyran: i myself am connected with my past
Bhang Tyran: but so many people her stop at their grand parents
Wol Euler: yep
Bhang Tyran: listen
Bhang Tyran: rabbit leg stuffed with
Bhang Tyran: duck leg stuffed with
Bhang Tyran: sauted onion and pork
Wol Euler: mmmmmmm
Bhang Tyran: german?
Wol Euler: could well be
Bhang Tyran: damn good whtever it is
Wol Euler grins.
Bhang Tyran: i am never dissapointed with the people i meet here
Wol Euler smiles.
Bhang Tyran: if you could suggest any oyther good conversation spots i would like that
Wol Euler: it rarely happens (disappointing people)
Wol Euler: but has happened even here
Wol Euler: when people come in trying to make this into a "debating" place, to let out their screaming rage

Wol Euler: Bhang, I'm sorry to say that there are very few respectful thoughtful places around (in my experience)
Wol Euler: Philosophers' Roadshow is one
Bhang Tyran: i think SL is the perfect forum for world governence
Wol Euler: also Rhiannon Oset hosts a weekly discussion where politeness is enforced
Bhang Tyran: my pc may not be registering right
Wol Euler: Roadside Philosophers
Wol Euler: there may of course be more
Bhang Tyran: its tue
Bhang Tyran: it is hard to find thoughtful talking
Wol Euler: I don't actually go looking for discussion, I spend more time on music and dancing
Wol Euler: yep

--BELL--

Bhang Tyran: love it.
Wol Euler: Most places, I get upset by the closed minds and wideopen mouths
Bhang Tyran: right
Bhang Tyran: SL seems to be a vent
Bhang Tyran: for most people
Bhang Tyran: its why im here
Wol Euler: it's a chance to be a different me :)
Bhang Tyran: im here to meet the annonomous other
Bhang Tyran: i didnt pass grammer
Wol Euler: anonymous others can be fun :)
Wol Euler: we are all anonymous most of the time, in reality
Bhang Tyran: hahaha
Bhang Tyran: true
Wol Euler: I am sitting right now in a Starbux, surroundd by people I have never seen before and will probably never see again
Bhang Tyran: its morning for nyou right
Wol Euler: they see my physical body but they know *me* less well than you dd
Wol Euler: *do
Bhang Tyran: haha
Bhang Tyran: the web is so cool
Bhang Tyran: so its your saturday?
Bhang Tyran: in german
Wol Euler: yup
Wol Euler: Samstag :)
Bhang Tyran: you have the day off?
Bhang Tyran: i do
Wol Euler: mmhmm, but working tomorrow
Bhang Tyran: yup me to
Bhang Tyran: "no rest for the wicked. or the good":
Wol Euler: truth
Wol Euler: "Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood and carry water."
Wol Euler: aka life goes on
Bhang Tyran: replace some words and very much truth
Bhang Tyran: keep on ,keep'n on
Wol Euler: even the Buddha had to wash the dishes after eating
Wol Euler: well probably not, he probably got the students to do it as part of their humility lesson
Wol Euler: ha
Bhang Tyran: achetupe
Bhang Tyran: hahaha
Bhang Tyran: looking back thats what we like to think
Bhang Tyran: maybe buddha cleaned up
Wol Euler: perhaps

--BELL--

Bhang Tyran: love it
Bhang Tyran: so any who....
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: it's that time
Bhang Tyran: i hope to encounter you again. live long and prosper.
Wol Euler: likewise
Bhang Tyran: namaste
Wol Euler: \\//_
Bhang Tyran: vagina
Bhang Tyran: hahahahahaha
Wol Euler: O.O
Wol Euler: spock
Wol Euler slaps you
Bhang Tyran: hahahaha
Bhang Tyran: thank you for a coud talk
Bhang Tyran: take care
Wol Euler: you too, Bhang
Wol Euler: take care
Bhang Tyran: im going to go harass some yuanks
Wol Euler: enjoy :)