2010.09.06 01:00 - Paths

Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Heyyy Bert ;))
Bertram Jacobus: hellloo cosma ! :-))
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: how are You?
Bertram Jacobus: my times are a bit heavy, but good to learn and for workin on it - and how about you ?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: okey , I gess ;)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: guess
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: had relaxing week-end
Bertram Jacobus: hehe . funny answer ;-)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: enjoying still the baby
Bertram Jacobus: sure ! :-)
Bertram Jacobus: and nice ...
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and grail is still full of love
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: maby I can say I am happy
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: because of daily little things
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm and there is something to look foward too...
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: on wednesday starts tai chi basic class
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I attend to go
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: on summer there were trainings outside on one big carden in the middle of Oulu, called Ainola`s park
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but if there was rainy, no training
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: now there will be twice per week
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: me and Jukka are about to go to Riga on 8-10.10
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: just two of us, for week-end free ;)
Bertram Jacobus: whaow - many plans !
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Jukkas parents comes to nanny the kids ;)
Bertram Jacobus: and a very full life ?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Yes i think so
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: no time for worrying too much
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hehe
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi Cal ;))
Bertram Jacobus: yeah. great ! i know how nice it is for parents with children to get some days off (!) ... :-)
Bertram Jacobus: how precious ... :-)
Bertram Jacobus: and hello cal ! *wave* ...
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes it is, and especially when its not often happened
Calvino Rabeni: <333 Cos and Bert - hello !
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hehe, gran ma and pa are already so exited (Cal, telling about that Riga trip, and Jukka`s parents comes to see boys)
Calvino Rabeni: :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I feel them to be a bit nervous
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: they have not been before as a nanny for kids
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and now there is 4
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: lol
Bertram Jacobus: lol
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I need to write a paper to Jukka`s mother about Simo`s daily rythm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: when sleeping , eating etc
Bertram Jacobus: you seem to be brave families ... ;-)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well... actually
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: they have no choise...
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;D
Bertram Jacobus: lol
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hehe
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: need to take all of them
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if like to take one
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and besides
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: "big boys" have wanted too many years to go to "night visit" on their place
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: so this is the time they will go
Bertram Jacobus: night visit ? what does that mean plz ?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, they like to go to visit at "night"
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or going to sleep there
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but they feel it like a visit
Bertram Jacobus: ah ! i see ...
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: usually visiting daily, but its a huge Boom here, eaven with friends to go to "night visit"
Bertram Jacobus: lol okay ...
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: sometimes boys friends want to come here
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and boys goes sometimes to their friends
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: will bring them about 6 pm
Bertram Jacobus: yes i understand
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yeah
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its exiting for kids, I guess
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: can wake up a bit longer and have sweets and candies
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: lol ;)
Bertram Jacobus: cal - how are you tonite ?
Calvino Rabeni: I'm well, feeling bright and calm tonight, had a good session before this one :)
Calvino Rabeni: And you Bert, how are you doing?
Bertram Jacobus: i copy, what i answered cosma to that question before : ;-)
Calvino Rabeni: TY :)
Bertram Jacobus: my times are a bit heavy, but good to learn and for workin on it
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Bertram Jacobus: hehe - np ! and what kind of session was that cal ?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: why Heavy, Do You want to share?
Calvino Rabeni: PlayAsBeing session
Calvino Rabeni: "He's not heavy, he's my Brother"
Bertram Jacobus: ah i see - 6 hours before ? :-)
Calvino Rabeni: Yes
Bertram Jacobus: great :-)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes, not Bert heavy, but those times
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: lol
Bertram Jacobus: ah - i wrote already about it cosma , here and don´t want to write too much about it not bore the people with such a personal stuff and not so nice things but in short :
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, okey
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: no problem
Bertram Jacobus: problems with work and quite unfriendly persons linked with that
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: maby a "mirror" would help
Bertram Jacobus: how do you mean that, how could it help, plz ?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: If if have needed shelter, I have "taken" a golden armour On me
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and the outer side there is a mirror
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: visualicing this
Bertram Jacobus: hmm - is that mainly imagination or do you also use a special behaviour then ?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: it might give some shelter sometimes when needed
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: still being me
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but shelted
Bertram Jacobus: i see ... so it´s more imagination, visualisation, right ?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its not imagination
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its existing
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but visualised
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and then existing
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and helping
Bertram Jacobus: i didn´t mean something different : imagination as fact and creating existing "things" ...
Bertram Jacobus: yes. i see. and we mean the same i think - but :
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes, I see that also
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
Bertram Jacobus: so you don´t change your so to call "outer behaviour" in such situations ?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: noup
Bertram Jacobus: good
Bertram Jacobus: for i found out, that fighting and such ... seems not to be my mean (!) ... i treid it out since some years, but my impression at the moment is : that does not work for me
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Bertram Jacobus: my way seems to be, always to be friendly and compassionating and loving directly as well as i can do so !
Bertram Jacobus: even the so to call "enemies"
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I have noticed sometimes people do need that energy of getting angry
Calvino Rabeni: True, that's good sometimes
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: it sometimes releases some situations
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and break some stones
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but I think its also how You do that
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if going with heart on that feel
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if just explode it
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and being calm in heart
Calvino Rabeni: Yes, and the other times, you can know that it's better for your health to be compassionate and more whole
Bertram Jacobus: i know what you mean and i ha dto consider that the last years, but now i came to that result for me : my way seems to be different : only loving, always, everybody, everything, without boundries - at least to try and to aim for that and practising as well as possible
Calvino Rabeni: Good to feel it at the time I think
Bertram Jacobus: that feels also authentic to me
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes, it depends on situtation and about people also, i think
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I feel to be what is needed and when
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: that I will give
Bertram Jacobus: to me, that should be all including and without depending on anything
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: is someone needs me to yell
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I do that
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and after that I notice this someone takes beter also love energy
Calvino Rabeni: We're genuinely interdependent
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: But yell is not often needed
Calvino Rabeni: yes Cos, it seems to work that way :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its truely rare
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Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: wondering
Bertram Jacobus: it´s interesting : when i consider how to teach children ... the thought is close that also more intense methods are needed. but may be therefore - i have no children ? i mean - that was not a decision of my own, but so to say "happend" ...
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Does it work out Bert long time to be all the time friendly
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: eaven if You do not feel so?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: where is self defence?
Bertram Jacobus: no - it´s a bit different : i mostly, always, since a long time already, i don´t remember exactly - that i like to be always friendly and loving - but there was a time, where life seemed to say to me : please, learn the so to call "heavy methods", too (!) - but at the moment it seems, as they were "not mine" - after having tried out ...
Bertram Jacobus: self defense is in what some may call "god", others "buddha nature", others "tao" - or also the not expressable, transcendent and so on ...
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: But, just came on my mind - thinking- if I will be allthe time friendly to every person, eaven to those who will turn it against me, eaven if I do not feel like
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I would do against my-Self
Bertram Jacobus: yes. i don´t know whether such a way to go would be good for everybody, may be not
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if there appears this kind of situations, I will not be friendly, but nothing elso too
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: like not existing
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: for those
Bertram Jacobus: i understand. also an interesting ... way ...
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: maby
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hehe, hmm
Bertram Jacobus: sounds really - like kinda new to me ! :-)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: maby do not want to hurt
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but ah, yes sometimes needs to thunder
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: it helps sometimes people to see more clear
Bertram Jacobus: i know that there are also those other methods which also aim on helping for sure
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: like weather outside is more clear too
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: when there have been a thunder and lightnings
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I might use hmm, not any special method
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but what is needed
Bertram Jacobus: but i, personally, feel always like described - even if i can´t realize always, but would like to and feel mostly. seldom forget it ...
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there is over whelming positivity in me too..
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
Bertram Jacobus: and by the way : when there is no "i", nothing could be hurt
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or, it might also be living in denyal. Trying to avoid "me"
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: trying to get rid of it
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: this I have noticed to be very strongly among the "Light workers"
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I have wondered if its good to connect all
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: me`s and my Bodies
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: from lovest to highest
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: let them be
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: as they are
Bertram Jacobus: i think and i appreciate it especially here, at pab, that there are many ways to go
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes, there are always many ways to go
Bertram Jacobus: different ones and many which are equal in their so to call "goodness", quality
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: many paths
Bertram Jacobus: no best way ...
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes, and the "best" way is the way One is going on- for her or him
Bertram Jacobus: yes. and to me, such a bringing together of all seems to be right, good, but for sure not in a wrong way lol :o)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: no wrong ways..
Bertram Jacobus: i mean in a helping way, what also can mean : let them be ("right") ...
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Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but some ways might give a little bit more to walk to the goal
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and some are more straight
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: some are more stony
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and others not
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and everyone choose with their free will
Calvino Rabenismiles
Bertram Jacobus: ya ! but to me also is a thing : "we never know" ... (!) - or should i better say : "i never know" (?) - yes, better ! ... ;-)
Calvino Rabeni: <333 to you Cosmic and to you Bertram
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well, in a way.. we do know
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if You are on a cross point
Bertram Jacobus: in a way, okay :-)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and if you feel with your heart what to do
Bertram Jacobus: but in another - not
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: witch way to go
Bertram Jacobus: at least me
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: thinking the way, and if heart do not tell anything or feeling bad.. not going there !
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: thinking this other path.. if heart raises up bubling feel of joy.. go for it !
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
Bertram Jacobus: nothing sure, nothing perfect, nothing 100 % - except the - what i tried to describe before - tao and so on - hope it exists ... felt sometimes like yes ...
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm well
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I do Trust 100 % to my heart`s made choises
Bertram Jacobus: i appreciate your words very much and the considering of the heart way(s) cosma and reminding on it !
Bertram Jacobus: yes - may be that also belongs and comes from those trancendent areas ...
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hehe, its good to practise that way if there is a difficulty witch way to go
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
Bertram Jacobus: and may be we all, cal, you and me don´t express differences - only different angles here and there and common things too : about love ...
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: just a sec
Calvino Rabeni: <333 Bert
Bertram Jacobus: :-)
Bertram Jacobus: ty all
Bertram Jacobus: or both :o)
Bertram Jacobus: i say already : ty for this morning session (europe, night for cal) ... may be i should be active again a bit regarding to my work situation now - also read the last session (cal, you made me a bit curious - no : i did it) ;-) - and ty for the power you give and share, both and pab !
Calvino Rabeni: _/!\_
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: back
Calvino Rabeni: WB :)
Bertram Jacobus: ah okay - i only had wanted to wait for you to say bye directly cosma ...
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, You are going
Calvino Rabeni: :)) Bye, Betrram
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: was wonderfull to see You Bert
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Enjoy
Calvino Rabeni: Yes :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: _/!\_
Bertram Jacobus: yes - cu later, may be soon and have you in my mind and heart ... *wave*
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Simo just woke up ;)
 

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