2010.09.26 07:00 - Playing as Llama

The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

I had the pleasure of meeting Selene this morning and we were alone for the first part of the session, having a pleasant chat. Our conversation very quickly turned to role playing. For the first time I experienced the logger not picking someone up.

Adams Rubble: Hello Selene :)
Selene Northman: Hello Adams :)
Adams Rubble: Forgive me for asking, have you been here before?
Adams Rubble: Nice to meet you :)
Selene Northman: nice to meet you, too :)
Adams Rubble: What are Vitruvian citizens?
Adams Rubble reading your profile :)
Selene Northman: Vitruvia is a roleplay city which is dedicated who those who want to play renaissance rp
Adams Rubble: Ohhh
Adams Rubble: I only know Vitruvius as the Roman Architect :)
Adams Rubble: Of course he partly inspired Renaissance architecture :)

(I can't help myself...) Vitruvius wrote a treatise called "On Architecture" that was rediscovered during the Renaissance and inspired architects to travel to Rome and study the ruins there. The treatise was published in numerous editions and illustrated by many. The most well done offspring is Leonardo's "Vitruvian Man".

Selene Northman: its very new and they are always looking for players. I had never heard the word Vitruvia before :)
Adams Rubble: nice name for a city
Selene Northman smiles
Selene Northman: the guy who is running it, looks for new players :)
Adams Rubble: I have never tried organized role playing
Adams Rubble: of course most of SL is a kind of role play
Selene Northman: did you ever try just to play a role?
Selene Northman: :)
Adams Rubble: yes, this one (giggles)
Selene Northman: the Guardian :)
Adams Rubble: no, Adams Rubble
Adams Rubble: but the guardian is a kind of role too

Being a Guardian has been a rewarding role I must say

Selene Northman: aahm I see, what kind of rp is Adams ?
Adams Rubble: Hmmm, good question
Adams Rubble: the role has varied
Selene Northman: :)
Adams Rubble's PaB Listener: Sorry, the PaB webserver is not responding. Error 499
Adams Rubble: whoops, an error in the recorder. hmmm

Here the recorder sent me an error but may have corrected itself. Selen was not recorded in the early part

Adams Rubble: it says it is recording though
Adams Rubble: not important
Selene Northman: perhaps you start all over again?
Selene Northman: well if its recording .. it´ll be alright then
Adams Rubble: My avatar has developed its own personality
Selene Northman: please explain
Adams Rubble: The chat logs are recorded on the computer so I can get it there if the recorder does not work
Adams Rubble: This gets very personal
Selene Northman: well, I am sorry for asking
Selene Northman apologizes
Adams Rubble: Please, no apologies needed. I started this conversation asking you about your tag :)
Selene Northman: yes, this is quasi personal, but a question I could answer :)
Adams Rubble: this is not my only avatar and it was an accident that I arrived at PaB in this one
Selene Northman: I find the aspect of a shifting avataristic personality very interesting
Adams Rubble: yes, it is
Selene Northman: so you are on with an alt :)
Adams Rubble: parts of are RL person are there but like any role playing role we develop that
Adams Rubble: and in the process we can learn much about oursselves
Selene Northman: so this avatar is merely fiction more or less?
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: hmmm
Selene Northman: well my avatar decided one day to become steampunk.... ;)
Adams Rubble: There is no Adams Rubble in RL as far as I know :)
Adams Rubble: but Adams Rubble lives in my RL person
Selene Northman: yes, Adams is a part of you , Selene is a part of me....
Selene Northman: Selene is my sl extension into a virtual world
Adams Rubble: and when you role play in SL that adds annother level
Adams Rubble: RL person playing Selene playing Vitruvia role
Selene Northman: well I love rp ing in sl
--BELL--
Adams Rubble: which if I was a clever guardian, I could lead this into Play as Being (hehe)
Selene Northman chuckles
Selene Northman: well if we know the rules... it would be a bit different
Adams Rubble: we have had interesting experienments thinking about how Being would see us
Adams Rubble: Being sees
Selene Northman: how would Being see you?
Adams Rubble: I think the more we play with avatar roles, the easier it is to see things from another perspective
Adams Rubble: The question is more what we would see as Being rather than turning it on ourselves
Adams Rubble: looking outside ourselves
Selene Northman: have you tried different avatar roles?
Adams Rubble: does that make sense?
Selene Northman: to a certain extent.. yes.... its a philosophical question
Adams Rubble: yes, my RL person has a stable of avatars. hehe
Selene Northman: :-)
Selene Northman: I will try to play a non human avatar when I will find out what the Being of my Ego is as an avatar

I am suddenly inspired by Selene's remark and my avatar begin to transform to a llama

Adams Rubble: we avatars used to be at odds with eaach other at the beginning
Selene Northman nods
Adams Rubble: Over the months we learned to care about each other if that does not sound too wierd
Adams Rubble: It is acceptance :)
Selene Northman: indeed :-)
Adams Rubble transofrms into a non-human role
Selene Northman: I really enjoy being part of certain groups and meeting others.
Selene Northman: I think there would be more to it than acceptance
Selene Northman: oh this avi is awesome :)
Selene Northman is really fascinated :)
Adams Rubble: I don;t do that for everyone (hehe)
Selene Northman: thanks for your transformation :)
Adams Rubble: hmmm
Adams Rubble: something is wrong

Riddle joins us here and we bring him up to date

Riddle Sideways: Hi All
Adams Rubble: Hi Riddle :)
Selene Northman: hope everythings alright? what´s wrong?
Adams Rubble: we are talking about nrole playing in SL
Selene Northman: Hi Riddle :)
Adams Rubble: that's better
Riddle Sideways: do we get to pick the role?
Selene Northman: it looks quite natural ,Adams :)
Adams Rubble: we have picked them in this case :)
Selene Northman: well are you into roleplaying, Riddle?
Riddle Sideways: no and yes
Riddle Sideways: playing my own role is hard enough
Adams Rubble: :)
Selene Northman smiles
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: seems everybody around has me in a role that I need to maintain
Selene Northman: well sometimes its a kind of relief to switch to a different role:)
Adams Rubble: that is interesting, being locked into playing to the expectations of others
Riddle Sideways: but in SL, no not much into it
Riddle Sideways: Do we role play as Being?
Adams Rubble: we all do that to a degree
Adams Rubble: see Riddle is a more clever guardian than I am (hehe)
Adams Rubble: he worked Being into this
Selene Northman: if being a truthseeker is a certain kind of roletaking, than we are
Riddle Sideways: ah yes that 'must say a key word' timer thing
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: my role playing has been an exploration
Riddle Sideways: yes truthseeker is an old and noble role to play
Adams Rubble: not sure I ever know if and wen I am playing as Being
Selene Northman: well I am conservative when it comes down to values ;)
Riddle Sideways: yes adams, you have explored more then most
Selene Northman: hw do you like exploring?
Adams Rubble: Exploring is exciting and productive for aa time and then we have to stop and let some of it come to us
Adams Rubble: always a trick to know when to "try" and when not to "try"
Adams Rubble: I've never figured out how to be a llama though (hehe)
Selene Northman: how does it feel?
Adams Rubble: not my best role
Riddle Sideways: is has not taken you over yet
Adams Rubble: I am very good at biting and spitting (hehe)
Adams Rubble: and kicking
Selene Northman: as long as you don´t spit at me.. lol
Riddle Sideways: what is it to being a llama?
Adams Rubble scratches her head
Riddle Sideways: there is an almost smile on face at all times
Riddle Sideways: like some private joke
Adams Rubble needs a script; anyone know any llama role playing classes?

Then QT

Adams Rubble: Hello QT :)
Selene Northman: not yet ;)
Riddle Sideways: Hi Qt
Selene Northman: hello QT :)
Qt Core: Hi all
Riddle Sideways: is the answer "go to a class" ?
Adams Rubble: hehe Riddle
Riddle Sideways: maybe self-taugh would work out
Selene Northman: just believe in yourself
Selene Northman: :)
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble feels a bit like going over the grass and doing some grazing
Adams Rubble: Hello Edwinly :)
Selene Northman: hello Ed :) 

Then someone who has been here before and wishes only to observe

Observer
Adams Rubble: Have you been here before Observer?
Qt Core: hi Observer
Observer
Adams Rubble: nice to meet you Observer:)
Adams Rubble: I am not normally a llama (hehe)
--BELL--
Observer

Stevenaia is next

Riddle Sideways: Hi Stev
Qt Core: Hi Steve
Adams Rubble: Hello Stevenaia :)
stevenaia Michinaga: morning
Selene Northman: Hi Stev :)
Adams Rubble: So you know Edwnly thaat our conversaations are recorded?
Adams Rubble: excet for the llama calls
Observer
Adams Rubble: ohh, may I ask what you are observing to find out?
Adams Rubble: and yes, I can
Observer
Riddle Sideways: sort of fits with the role playing topic we were talking
Adams Rubble: OK
Adams Rubble: We were talking about role playing which is why I transformed myself
Riddle Sideways: we (might be) play SL roles here
Riddle Sideways: that are different (a little) from RL
Adams Rubble: llamas are usually seen grazing and not heard
Adams Rubble: but are herd (giggles)
Riddle Sideways: ooooooooo
stevenaia Michinaga: laughs
Selene Northman: well I presume its a big chance to invent oneself new
Selene Northman: chuckles
stevenaia Michinaga: are there other lama puns you would like to share
Riddle Sideways: pleas no
Adams Rubble: hehe Stevenaia
Adams Rubble: I do have a yellow hat
stevenaia Michinaga: interesting that the toic of role playing relates so closely to the the visualiztion excercises we do
stevenaia Michinaga: *topic
Riddle Sideways: almost same thing
stevenaia Michinaga: we observe and have what we observer see us
stevenaia Michinaga: out Rl seves to that with our sl selves all the time
stevenaia Michinaga: *selves
stevenaia Michinaga: ekk *do that
Adams Rubble nods and wags her tail
Riddle Sideways: excuse me folks, but am going to go look thru the village square display
stevenaia Michinaga: wonders how it woudl change if our RL faces were pasted on our SL avatars, some try to form their avatar to look like their RL seves more than others
Adams Rubble: bye Riddle
Selene Northman: tc Riddle and have a nice day :)
Riddle Sideways: like qwaq avs
Adams Rubble: I do have avatars that are more like my RLer
Adams Rubble: They are quite boring (hehe)
Selene Northman: so whats so great about rl? ;)
Adams Rubble: Hello Aphrodite :)
stevenaia Michinaga: it take much effort to put something like that together, I suppose I don;t care to observe my RL self that closely yo begin with

Aphrodite appears

Selene Northman: Hi Aphrodite :)
Adams Rubble: It depends on what the avatar has to do
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi everyone
stevenaia Michinaga: Hello Aphrodite
Adams Rubble: they are good workers
--BELL--
Aphrodite Macbain: Adams - is that you?
Adams Rubble: hehe, yes Aphrodite :)
Selene Northman: well folks, I have to leave now - have a nice day , bye bye :)
Adams Rubble: Have aggod day Selene, nice chaytting wwith you
Aphrodite Macbain: Must go too. You're beautiful Adams
Adams Rubble: I guess we should move on
Adams Rubble: bye everyone :)
Qt Core: time to be elsewhere ;-)

And we all trot off to the Village hall, some of us stopping for a few mouthfuls of village grass along the way...