2010.09.06 13:00 - PaB Tech-heads

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    Agatha Macbeth was in da house for this session. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.


    Agatha Macbeth: Well hello Mr Earthboy :)
    Dash Earthboy: hi Aggie
    Agatha Macbeth: How are we?
    Dash Earthboy: today i'm trying out the latest Emerald Viewer on my old XP desktop

    --BELL--(1300)

    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey guys
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, a dying breed I'm afraid
    Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Yaku
    Dash Earthboy: hey Yahu
    Dash Earthboy: Yaku
    Dash Earthboy: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, this will probably be the last release
    Dash Earthboy: whyso?
    Agatha Macbeth: Well, they can't agree with the Lindens on various things, alledgedly
    Agatha Macbeth: Which is a pain
    Agatha Macbeth: Because Emerald beats the crap out of Viewer 2
    Dash Earthboy: i'd rather be using a regular browser
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Adoro
    Dash Earthboy: hi Adoro
    adoro Rhapsody: hi
    Dash Earthboy: hey Sartre
    Agatha Macbeth: Did Yaku just turn into Sartre?
    Sartre Placebo: jep
    Agatha Macbeth: He looks like a cloud to me
    Dash Earthboy: llooks like
    Agatha Macbeth: Rebake, maybe?
    adoro Rhapsody: a placebo cloud
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Dash Earthboy: :)
    Dash Earthboy: anybody here believe in horoscopes?
    adoro Rhapsody: maybe a bit in chinese horoscope
    Agatha Macbeth: Pretty hit-and-miss in my experience
    Agatha Macbeth: I certainly don't believe those ones they publish in newspapers
    Dash Earthboy: you mean like a broken watch Aggie?
    Agatha Macbeth: In a way
    Qt Core: Hi all
    Agatha Macbeth: At least it's right twice a day ;-)
    adoro Rhapsody: and some long term relationships
    Dash Earthboy: hi Qt
    adoro Rhapsody: hi qt
    Agatha Macbeth: Don't start me on relationships!

    Aggers makes the sign of the cross

    Agatha Macbeth: 'Sera Qt :)
    adoro Rhapsody: ok
    adoro Rhapsody: i wont start
    adoro Rhapsody: but i am virgo and my wife is bull and it fits already more than 30 yers
    adoro Rhapsody: years
    Agatha Macbeth: Good :)
    Dash Earthboy: wow the lag on this XP is incredible
    adoro Rhapsody: so that works
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm a Scorpio :)

    For my sins...

    Dash Earthboy: good Adoro!
    adoro Rhapsody: maybe it is lucky stars
    Agatha Macbeth: I still occasionally use XP on my Packard Bell, but more often Ubuntu
    Dash Earthboy: ya I like RHEL or Debian mostly
    Dash Earthboy: but I run Ubuntu on this XP system as a service
    Agatha Macbeth: Linux doesn't keep crashing its drivers like Windoze
    Dash Earthboy: true
    Qt Core: suse for work, ubuntu at home
    Agatha Macbeth: I like it immensely I must say
    Agatha Macbeth: Wish the icons were a bit funkier tho :)
    Qt Core: but i'm guilty, i prefer vista for sl ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Me too Qt!
    adoro Rhapsody: i prefer vista for sl too
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    adoro Rhapsody: and for youtube
    Agatha Macbeth: It certainly seems to get the job done anyways
    Dash Earthboy: i think my main problem with SL on this is my Intel graphics
    Agatha Macbeth: We have come a long way since Windows 95
    Qt Core: i'm from windows 2.and dos age, even a longer way ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: eek!
    Dash Earthboy: The county I worked for in 2004 was still using Win95c
    Agatha Macbeth: Well, my excuse is I used an A4000 for years
    adoro Rhapsody: I am of DOS and Algol and Cobol and Assembler
    adoro Rhapsody: those where the days
    Dash Earthboy: ya Qt I was happy with Concurrent DOS and CPM myself :)
    Agatha Macbeth: truly :)
    Dash Earthboy: and using WordPerfect & Quattro!
    Agatha Macbeth fondly remembers the ZX81
    adoro Rhapsody: the only thinks that were right were the punches in the punchcards
    Qt Core: cobol and basic at school moved to C immediately after
    Dash Earthboy: ya
    adoro Rhapsody: ok
    adoro Rhapsody: nostalgia
    Agatha Macbeth: One thing about Linux: it reminded me what a CLI is! :p
    Dash Earthboy: well I was playing with C on the Unix 3Bs
    adoro Rhapsody: meybe in "le musee du ICT in Paris
    adoro Rhapsody: maybe
    Dash Earthboy: and found it more fun than COBOL had been for me
    Qt Core: you know, only after i discovered my vocation cor cumputers i discovered my mother was a programmer in the '60 i knew her only as a math teacher

    --BELL--(1315)

    Agatha Macbeth: Whoa
    morgano Bravin: Hi Guys
    Dash Earthboy: hi Mo
    Agatha Macbeth: (Hi Morg :)
    Qt Core: Hi Morgano
    morgano Bravin: am I here?
    Agatha Macbeth: No :p
    Agatha Macbeth: Of course!
    Agatha Macbeth: I can see you
    morgano Bravin: I seem to be very slow
    Dash Earthboy: me too
    Agatha Macbeth: Just give it all time to rez
    Dash Earthboy: ya Aggie I'm still waiting for Sartre
    Dash Earthboy: ;)
    Agatha Macbeth: I think he fell asleep again ;-)
    morgano Bravin: on the verge of crashing i think
    Agatha Macbeth: oops
    Sartre Placebo: still not rezzed ?
    Agatha Macbeth: (He awoke!)
    morgano Bravin: kk
    Agatha Macbeth: I see you fine Morg
    Qt Core: ok for Morg, Sartre is a cloud
    Dash Earthboy: Emeral and Acrobat are consuming 100% CPU on my system
    Agatha Macbeth: Me too
    morgano Bravin: I dont see any of you yet
    Agatha Macbeth: I see you perfectly
    Dash Earthboy: you're coming in fine Morg
    morgano Bravin: ty
    adoro Rhapsody: hi morgano
    morgano Bravin: now i see clouds

    Is it me or does this sound like someone trying to land a plane ?!

    morgano Bravin: hiya
    Agatha Macbeth: (And I love the skirt)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    morgano Bravin: :)..same old one
    adoro Rhapsody: blushes
    Qt Core: i saw you a little weird mor as when you appeared my cam was under your armpit, plus or minus one pixel
    Agatha Macbeth still loves it
    Qt Core: ;-)
    Dash Earthboy: hey arabella
    morgano Bravin: Hi Ara
    adoro Rhapsody: hi arabella
    Qt Core: Hi Ara
    Agatha Macbeth: Did you get a haircut Qt?
    arabella Ella: Hiya everyone!
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Ara :)
    Qt Core: thought it could help rezzing (my hair are the 98% of my rendering cost)
    Sartre Placebo: hey ara
    adoro Rhapsody: nice outfit ara
    adoro Rhapsody: wow
    Agatha Macbeth: Wilkommen zurück Yaku :)
    Dash Earthboy: welcome back Yaku
    Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: thx
    Qt Core: a swap better than in wrestling tag team matches, Yaku!
    arabella Ella: thanks adoro
    Agatha Macbeth: Probably
    adoro Rhapsody: du sitsts auf ein cloud
    adoro Rhapsody: yaku
    Agatha Macbeth: 'Traveling on a Cloud' :)

    'Rainbow Chaser' ? - no?

    adoro Rhapsody: aber the cloud ist verschwunden
    adoro Rhapsody: ein placebo claud
    Yakuzza Lethecus: the could want´s to be a bird, the bird wants to be a cloud
    Agatha Macbeth: Cloud strife?
    adoro Rhapsody: wo ist sartre ?
    adoro Rhapsody: geblieben ?
    morgano Bravin: yes, its very odd here tonite
    Agatha Macbeth: Something in the ether Morg :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i am sartre, adoro
    adoro Rhapsody: ok
    Qt Core: something in the ethernet, maybe
    Agatha Macbeth: I see a Mick approaching
    Dash Earthboy: ya
    Agatha Macbeth: Now he'll probably crash about 15 times! ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yo Mick :)
    adoro Rhapsody: hi mick
    Dash Earthboy: hey mick
    arabella Ella: Hiya Mick
    Mickorod Renard: cooor
    Qt Core: Hi Mick
    Dash Earthboy: come on in the water's fine
    Agatha Macbeth: Wet feet?
    adoro Rhapsody: some like it wet
    Agatha Macbeth: So I hear...
    Mickorod Renard: i suspect some still rezzin
    Mickorod Renard: hiya
    Agatha Macbeth: There's a lot of it about Mick
    arabella Ella: please take a seat mick
    arabella Ella: make yourself comfortable
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeah, park yer arse
    arabella Ella: and dont bother with some of the comments :)
    Mickorod Renard: i need to see them first
    Agatha Macbeth: We seem to have a slow Bieup tonight
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Druth
    adoro Rhapsody: hi zen
    adoro Rhapsody: or druth
    Agatha Macbeth looks round for Zen :)
    Qt Core: hi Druth
    druth Vlodovic: hi mick, :)
    druth Vlodovic: hey all

    Mick decides to use Druth as a chair...

    Agatha Macbeth: He looks comfy there
    druth Vlodovic: aww
    adoro Rhapsody: wow
    adoro Rhapsody: she is a lady
    Mickorod Renard: i will wait
    morgano Bravin: he's naughty ,,that Micko
    Agatha Macbeth: We know :)

    --BELL--(1330)

    Dash Earthboy: thumbs twittling
    Agatha Macbeth: (What's he done now?)
    Agatha Macbeth: Having problems Mick?
    morgano Bravin: i guess he's having the same prob as me
    Agatha Macbeth: Only more so
    Agatha Macbeth: And he's not even wearing a leather mini skirt ;-)
    Mick_001.jpg

    Agatha Macbeth: Yay!
    druth Vlodovic: bullseye!
    Mickorod Renard: thats better
    Dash Earthboy: ya morgan you missed the swim :)
    morgano Bravin: but it took me ages to see anything
    Agatha Macbeth: SL can be a pain sometimes
    Qt Core: sometimes some logging in sl remembers bad mornings ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes, definitely!
    Dash Earthboy: i hear a good gaming video card helps
    Agatha Macbeth: And ones you can't remember too :p
    Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
    arabella Ella: Dash the problem is you cant upgrade the graphics card on a laptop
    Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
    druth Vlodovic: funny "living" in a world of such unstable and arbitrary physics
    Qt Core: at most add some memory
    Dash Earthboy: exactly
    Agatha Macbeth: stop
    Agatha Macbeth: That sorted the lag
    arabella Ella: add some memory to a new laptop?
    arabella Ella: does that really cure the lag?
    Qt Core: to the graphic card, in some there is space (bu as i hate laptops i may be wrong)
    Agatha Macbeth: It cures mine ;-)
    Dash Earthboy: i can't change a video card in my laptop for sure
    Agatha Macbeth: I never use them
    adoro Rhapsody: i go further
    adoro Rhapsody: bye all
    Yakuzza Lethecus: often even when more momory fits into the laptop they use all slot´s already
    morgano Bravin: bye
    druth Vlodovic: bye adoro
    Qt Core: bye adoro
    Yakuzza Lethecus: night adoro
    Agatha Macbeth: Ever onward Ade
    Dash Earthboy: bye adoro
    Mickorod Renard: bye adoro
    Qt Core: then you have to change both ram chip
    Qt Core: to the upper density
    Qt Core: (size)
    morgano Bravin: size is everything
    Agatha Macbeth: I just noticed Qt's hair grew back
    arabella Ella: oh yes Qt what happened?
    Mickorod Renard: we must chat mrgano
    Dash Earthboy: really wish my laptop had 6G of RAM
    Dash Earthboy: only got half that
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    Qt Core: i never had problems with 4 in my desk (even if vista see only 3.5 ;-) )
    Dash Earthboy: makes a difference when you're running a few virtual machines on Vista
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh, Vista probably would...
    Qt Core: oh, yes, that could help then, if you are able to make Vista see all of them
    morgano Bravin: one in my desk would be nice
    arabella Ella: ok so scuse my ignorance I know you can add memory to a laptop but how can you add memory to a graphics card on a laptop?
    Agatha Macbeth: Good question
    Qt Core: some graphic card have the same empty slot that motherboard have for expanding them             Agatha Macbeth: Good answer
    Dash Earthboy: good question
    Dash Earthboy: hey lila
    Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Lil :)
    Lila Darkmatter: Hi :)
    Qt Core: but maybe isn't anymore an option
    arabella Ella: but not on laptops i am told Qt?
    Mickorod Renard: i am supprised i still run at all
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hello lila
    Qt Core: Hi Lila
    Mickorod Renard: i havnt got a new viewer or anything
    arabella Ella: Hiya Lila!
    Lila Darkmatter: :))
    morgano Bravin: hi Lila
    Mickorod Renard: hi lila
    Yakuzza Lethecus: there are new laptops whom are able to support external graphic cards but that´s still new and not really a standart yet
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and that doesn´t help you either, ara :P
    Dash Earthboy: this would be a nice day for beanbag chairs
    arabella Ella: yes i heard about extternal graphics cards but seems they are something quite new as you said Qt
    arabella Ella: sorry Yaku i mean
    arabella Ella: or was it Sartre :)
    morgano Bravin: I have a laptop with docking ports
    Dash Earthboy: most laptops let you adjust how much memory you allot for video/graphics...at least PCs

    --BELL--(1345)

    Qt Core: as many of them use the same ram you have on the mb for both the cpu and the graphic card
    Dash Earthboy: i set mine on 128M
    Dash Earthboy: and give my virtual machines about 16M of the video RAM each
    Qt Core: are those all CLI linuxes ;-)
    Qt Core: ?
    Dash Earthboy: no
    Dash Earthboy: i also run XP and NT4 and a couple Solaris vms
    Agatha Macbeth: OMG
    Dash Earthboy: plus suse, ubuntu and geOS
    arabella Ella: wow cool but I am lost when it gets to very technical stuff
    Agatha Macbeth: Well, that is certainly very technical
    Qt Core: that system is overoessed, not overclocked '-)
    Dash Earthboy: VMware has made it easy to run VMs as clients in Vista Home ;)
    Dash Earthboy: it's something called Unity
    Dash Earthboy: the XP programs show up on my Vista taskbar just like Vista apps
    Qt Core: (thinks we are starting boring both the avs and the log reader now)
    Dash Earthboy: 8 agrees *
    Agatha Macbeth: I agree with 8
    Dash Earthboy: but my Yamaha Studio works in XP but not Vista
    Qt Core: so, for the last... ten minutes of the session ;-) has someone something more pab related ?
    Dash Earthboy: so I had to learn
    Mickorod Renard: yea,,i have fallen aleep
    Agatha Macbeth: Makes a good topic as far as I'm concerned
    druth Vlodovic: the avatars will benefit from the improvement of their environment caused by greater understanding of their users
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe, we might see this as preparation for the next theme session :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Probably
    Lila Darkmatter: good point, Druth :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Come back BeOS I say
    Dash Earthboy: ya AGgie
    Yakuzza Lethecus: isn´t BeOS still outthere but under a different name ?
    Agatha Macbeth: I believe so, yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Not sure what tho
    Yakuzza Lethecus: Zeta
    Qt Core: BeingOs ?
    Agatha Macbeth: Is it?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but there are different spinofffs as i see
    Agatha Macbeth: Paly as being OS
    Agatha Macbeth: play
    Yakuzza Lethecus: 2010.09.09 13:00 SLT Playing as Being as Software: Pema/Eos
    Dash Earthboy: * wonders if Google's new OS will run SL as good as Linux *
    Lila Darkmatter: That session should be great, am going to try to make it
    Agatha Macbeth: GoogleOS?
    Dash Earthboy: i think Google's OS is still in Beta
    Yakuzza Lethecus: will it also be something android based ?
    Agatha Macbeth: BorgOS
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i join the collective
    Mickorod Renard: sounds good
    Agatha Macbeth: Not Victor
    Yakuzza Lethecus: restistance is furtile
    Lila Darkmatter: hahaha
    Yakuzza Lethecus: futile
    Agatha Macbeth: Furtile sounds better
    Qt Core: thinking about a furry borg...
    Agatha Macbeth: Or a borg furry
    Dash Earthboy: surrender is not an option ;)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: they should assimilate furry´s too!
    Agatha Macbeth: Bjorn Borg?
    Agatha Macbeth: (Going back a bit)
    Lila Darkmatter: Bjorn free...
    Agatha Macbeth: Mwahahah
    Agatha Macbeth: Bjorn again
    Lila Darkmatter: Bjorn to be alive...
    Dash Earthboy: Bjorn2 Boogie
    Lila Darkmatter: :::rifles through her collection of 8 track tapes::::
    Agatha Macbeth: Too big!

    --BELL--(1400)

    Agatha Macbeth: Ah well, things to see, people to do...
    morgano Bravin: too big,,I need to go folks,,bed time
    Lila Darkmatter: Yes, I've got to get going, just wanted to peek in
    Agatha Macbeth: Take care folks, bfn
    morgano Bravin: c u guys
    Lila Darkmatter: Nice to see everyone :) Bye for now
    Dash Earthboy: it's been a fun way to spend part of Labor Day...see y'all
    Qt Core: bye Agatha and Morgano and Lila, have fun
    Yakuzza Lethecus: night everyone
    Mickorod Renard: bye anyone who has just left
    Mickorod Renard: or leaving
    arabella Ella: oh Happy Labor Day to those from the US
    druth Vlodovic: zzzz, what
    druth Vlodovic: lol, I'll be seing you guys later
    Mickorod Renard: bye druth
    Qt Core: bye druth
    arabella Ella: bye druth
    Mickorod Renard: yea,,i better head home too
    arabella Ella: Hey Qt X Factor started again on Italian TV!
    arabella Ella: bye Mick
    Mickorod Renard: c u guys
    Qt Core: wow, how have i survived without it ! ;-)
    arabella Ella: LOL
    arabella Ella: just saying so Qt as I know you dont normally enjoy much TV
    arabella Ella: :)
    Qt Core: i may watch some seconds of it sometimes just to see what Elio does
    arabella Ella: I must go now too
    arabella Ella: good night
    Qt Core: 'night Ara

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