2012.02.27 07:00 - Opening Up Up Up

The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza Madrigal. The comments are by Eliza Madrigal.

oO0Oo Resident: hello Hello!
Eliza Madrigal: Hello Hello Samúð :)
Eliza Madrigal seeing Bleu's balloons near the arrival spot, what a nice idea

--BELL--

oO0Oo Resident: Really! and I'm seeing these banners for the first time.. wonderful!
Eliza Madrigal: :)
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hello Bleu, Samúð and I were just admiring the balloons and banners you placed about
oO0Oo Resident: Hiya Bleu !
oO0Oo Resident: yes.. beautiful!
Bleu Oleander: hiya Eliza, Sam
Bleu Oleander: not sure how long the WG wants them left up
Bleu Oleander: plans still under discussion?
Eliza Madrigal: nor I... but I suppose they continue... building toward Aprifl 1...
Eliza Madrigal: Oops :) April 1
Bleu Oleander: ah ok
oO0Oo Resident: fun pronunciation :)
Eliza Madrigal tries to pronounce that
Bleu Oleander: ha!
oO0Oo Resident: gesundheit!
Eliza Madrigal is all about direct exploration and "try and see" haha

Eliza Madrigal: I like the quote you chose for the example too Bleu.... re poking holes in reality
Bleu Oleander: yes, me too
 

When you reread what you wrote a few days later you probably get a
different perspective, but the main idea is to poke holes in our ideas
of reality. - Pema Pera

Bleu Oleander: I like the idea of going back to read what you wrote also
Bleu Oleander: a history of your thoughts
Bleu Oleander: and a chance to have a conversation with yourself

Eliza Madrigal: Have you noticed anything interesting about your own journey or what have you, that way?
Bleu Oleander: yes definitely ... want to continue to read what I wrote
Eliza Madrigal: seeing ourselves caught in action

Bleu Oleander: find that I say more now than I used to ... :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: we're happy of that
Bleu Oleander: :)
oO0Oo Resident: :)
oO0Oo Resident: no complaints here

Eliza Madrigal: I find it interesting sometimes to read myself seeming to understand something that I may still find illusive this day :)
Bleu Oleander: :) yes
Eliza Madrigal: like to think that I may be less 'experiences' centered than I used to be... especially when reading my Chronicles interview :)
Bleu Oleander: say more?
Eliza Madrigal: well, hm.... that isn't easy ... I suppose I feel like I was after 'proofs' of a certain sort...
oO0Oo Resident listens intently
Bleu Oleander listens as well
Eliza Madrigal: one seeks validation or acceptance... and I feel I latched onto things in a way that is less easy to now...
Eliza Madrigal: keeps opening up

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: trust of intuition, uniqueness of path
Eliza Madrigal: and that of others within themselves
Eliza Madrigal: :)
oO0Oo Resident: it's all good :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) yes
oO0Oo Resident: not that I understood what you said mind you ;)
Eliza Madrigal giggles

Bleu Oleander: so in a way you're experiencing your intuition or feelings and trusting that you are "reading" it in a valid way?
Bleu Oleander: as a source of knowledge?
oO0Oo Resident: Or.. less attached to validation?
Eliza Madrigal: indeed so ...
Eliza Madrigal: it is easy when one feels they've been changed or helped in some way, to sort of set up shop
Bleu Oleander: yes :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
oO0Oo Resident: http://imm.io/hrYJ
Eliza Madrigal: clicks....
Bleu Oleander: the reward is the sense of change or being helped?
Eliza Madrigal: Nice, oO0Oo, thanks :)
Eliza Madrigal: hm, thinks
Bleu Oleander: nice pic Sam!

Eliza Madrigal: It is the pervasive tendency I think... in our way of life... to think in terms of objects that are gotten and given
Eliza Madrigal: exchange
oO0Oo Resident: materialism?
Eliza Madrigal: and it can be difficult to see that dreams and visions can be objects too
Eliza Madrigal nods
Bleu Oleander: thoughts can be considered objects as well
Eliza Madrigal: which they aren't, if they continue ... unfold... like in the wonderful boomerang video you sent, Samúð
oO0Oo Resident: stark non-spaces, non-objects of most value..
Eliza Madrigal: yes

oO0Oo Resident: can understand the desire for acknowledgement, or validation of sorts.. while dropping the paradigm of exchange... space... floaty
oO0Oo Resident: lonely
oO0Oo Resident: or.. hmmm.. alone

Bleu Oleander: what does it mean to drop the paradigm of exchange?
oO0Oo Resident: bliss its own virtue/reward

oO0Oo Resident: I don't want to infer upon what Eliza was intending.. but...
oO0Oo Resident: to give up any hope for return/thanks/reward/acknowledgement when flowing forward with change and intention

Bleu Oleander: hi Raffila
oO0Oo Resident: hi Raff :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Raffila :) Would you like a note of the session so far?
Raffila Millgrove: hi. (ty for cool balloons, bleu) sorry to interrupt you Sam.
Raffila Millgrove: yes ty Eliza.
Bleu Oleander: yw!
Eliza Madrigal: sure one moment :)
oO0Oo Resident: not interupting.. welcome

--BELL--

Bleu Oleander: could life be considered the ultimate return when flowing forward with change and intention?

Eliza Madrigal: that's really beautiful
oO0Oo Resident: seems a life worth living.. and alive at that
oO0Oo Resident: although
oO0Oo Resident: have to really take the "worth" out in a sense
oO0Oo Resident: living enough

Eliza Madrigal: less fixed worth, wealth, validation... open
Eliza Madrigal waves to observerm :)
Bleu Oleander: is happiness a reward for living a life well lived?
oO0Oo Resident: virtue its own reward?
Eliza Madrigal: virtuous cyles

oO0Oo Resident thinks of parents love for child...
oO0Oo Resident: no thoughts of exchange maybe
Bleu Oleander: virtue is action to me, like in Sam's video ... happiness is the feeling that comes from those actions
oO0Oo Resident: the locus of the reciever seems to be like time.. not really pinned down
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Bleu Oleander: so could you say that happiness is from someone's point of view, where ones' unique past experiences serve as a context?
oO0Oo Resident: but as a moral tale.. it works to hint at the forwardness

Eliza Madrigal: you know Buddhism is full of all these interesting distinctions... maybe why I've been so drawn there ... one of those is some idea that the 'gods realm' where one is totally happy or hm something... is less wonderful in a sense, than our human realm where we are touched by suffering ... so a deeper happiness being given opportunties for kindness....

Eliza Madrigal sees Sun arriving with rainbow particles flashing
oO0Oo Resident: greater opportunities
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Yaku :)
Raffila Millgrove greets Yaku

oO0Oo Resident: Off topic, but wanted to reference this documentary on view of happiness (Epicurus), that I have mentioned in sessions before, but it has been some time, and seemed timely. A save for later one:
http://is.gd/c7Yby9

Bleu Oleander: hiya Yaku
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Sun, Yaku :)
oO0Oo Resident: Obs !
Eliza Madrigal: ty
Bleu Oleander: hi Sun :)
Eliza Madrigal greets the sun
Sunshine Vayandar: ;o)
Sunshine Vayandar: I am rezzing
Sunshine Vayandar: a bit ;)
Eliza Madrigal: and flipping about... haha
Sunshine Vayandar: yes ;) why waste time ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;D
oO0Oo Resident: lol

Eliza Madrigal: getting into party mood :)
Sunshine Vayandar: yes I heard some particles are needed
Sunshine Vayandar: but pls carry on ;)
Bleu Oleander: such colorful flipping ... smiling
oO0Oo Resident: particular party particle practioner needed

Eliza Madrigal: Sunshine have you met Raffila? :::introduces::::
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Rafilla ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: nice meeting you ;)

--BELL--

oO0Oo Resident likes a man in a tux with iceskates
Sunshine Vayandar: Hi Sam, Bleu Yaku
Eliza Madrigal is now thinking of compiling a book of Bleu's questions :)
Bleu Oleander: ha ha!
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Bleu Oleander: big book!!!
Sunshine Vayandar: ;) Liz
Sunshine Vayandar: we will need megaprims
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Sunshine Vayandar: ;D
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Yakuzza Lethecus: :)

Eliza Madrigal: excuse me one moment, son home from school ill...
Sunshine Vayandar: ohh ok Liz
Bleu Oleander: aww, hope he feels better
oO0Oo Resident: aww
Sunshine Vayandar: yes I hope too
Bleu Oleander: I must get to work ... enjoyed our conversation as always :)
Sunshine Vayandar: not easy when kids are sick
Bleu Oleander: take care all :)
Sunshine Vayandar: take care Bleuji
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
oO0Oo Resident: Bye Bleu :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bleu
Raffila Millgrove: Bye
Eliza Madrigal: ::::rushes::: Bye BLeu :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: alas :)

Sunshine Vayandar: how is he feeling
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks for the well wishes... he must have eaten something disagreeable... and he is laughing because he is watching a very old vhs tape of chitty chitty bang bang, which has an actual intermission
Sunshine Vayandar: ;o)
oO0Oo Resident grins
Sunshine Vayandar: what is chitty chitty bang bang
Sunshine Vayandar: sounds like something I would like
Sunshine Vayandar: ;p
Eliza Madrigal: a film about a magical car :)
Sunshine Vayandar: oh I didn't think it was about a car
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))

Eliza Madrigal: http://imdb.to/ziHUOd
Sunshine Vayandar: ty ty ;)
oO0Oo Resident: http://is.gd/cwc83A

Sunshine Vayandar: A hapless inventor finally finds success with a flying car, which a dictator from a foreign government sets out to take for himself.
Sunshine Vayandar: ;p
Sunshine Vayandar: ty Sam ;)
Eliza Madrigal: :)))
Eliza Madrigal giggling... such innocence
oO0Oo Resident: :) nice energy to heal with.. at home with nice mom :)
Sunshine Vayandar: 1968
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: 19 old woke just now in footie pajamas, thrilled to go watch it too
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: happy day

Sunshine Vayandar: *:• •:*.-:¦:- -:¦:-.•:*¨¨*:• YAYYY *:• •:*¨¨*:•.-:¦:- -:¦:-.¨¨*:•
oO0Oo Resident: that's it! Everyone over to Eliza's...!
Sunshine Vayandar: ohh happy dayyy
Sunshine Vayandar: ok I go pack
oO0Oo Resident makes popcorn!
Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;) I bring bananas
Eliza Madrigal: aside from the stomach ache... yes... I'll run for ice cream
Sunshine Vayandar: ;D
Raffila Millgrove is hungry and wonders what is fo breakfast at Eliza's.
Sunshine Vayandar: pop corn and bananas
Eliza Madrigal: mmm makings of french toast perhaps...
Eliza Madrigal: long line of vhs tapes....
Sunshine Vayandar: and french toast
Raffila Millgrove: oh. ice cream and popcorn with bananas. sounds good!
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Sunshine Vayandar: yes ;p

Sunshine Vayandar: I am already above Mali ;)
Eliza Madrigal: wow, what progress
Sunshine Vayandar: with the bananas
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: sigh :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
Yakuzza Lethecus: thx sam
Yakuzza Lethecus: is it salted or sugared popcorn ?
Eliza Madrigal: ty oO0Oo :::munches:::::

Raffila Millgrove: gee this is good popcorn. i don't have any as nice as this. very buttery.
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm ty ;))
oO0Oo Resident: Now if only we all had footie pajamas

Raffila Millgrove ties the balloon string around her wrist so she won't let go of it with the buttery fingers.
Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
Sunshine Vayandar tied balloon to the corner of the pillow
Raffila Millgrove: balloons were so pricey when i was little. my mom always tied it on my wrist.
Eliza Madrigal: what generous popcorn, gets to bottom and asks to give more
Sunshine Vayandar: yes very kind pop corn
Raffila Millgrove: you would buy at parade.
Yakuzza Lethecus: a bit heavy for breakfast tho :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;o)
Eliza Madrigal: :) Yaku
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)

--BELL--

oO0Oo Resident: lol
Raffila Millgrove nibbles daintily on the banana.
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
Sunshine Vayandar: no shortage of food
oO0Oo Resident: rofl
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
Sunshine Vayandar: no more hungry hungarians present
Eliza Madrigal: remembering that, when a balloon was a rare deal :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ops sorry bell ;)
Eliza Madrigal: Mrawwwww...
Sunshine Vayandar: lol
oO0Oo Resident: @@
Sunshine Vayandar: Liz is not happy about something
oO0Oo Resident: me carves steak with banana
Eliza Madrigal: hahahaha
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
oO0Oo Resident: grrrr

Eliza Madrigal: laughing.... amazing how quickly I unraveled our deep topic... heheh
oO0Oo Resident: Hope this ritual is helping your son E
Sunshine Vayandar: ;p
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)) my giggling is helping I'm sure
Eliza Madrigal: lightness abounds
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Eliza Madrigal: giggles
Sunshine Vayandar laughs
Yakuzza Lethecus: *smiles*
oO0Oo Resident wishes for the temporarily chokes on food gesture
Sunshine Vayandar: giggles
Sunshine Vayandar: lol ty Liz
Sunshine Vayandar: it migth be my fault .....that all went silly
Sunshine Vayandar apologises
Eliza Madrigal: nope :)))
Yakuzza Lethecus giggles
Yakuzza Lethecus: giggles

Sunshine Vayandar: I usually have this effect ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: so not only me - thank god
Eliza Madrigal: infusing everything celebration
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Yakuzza Lethecus: thx for the happiness vid sam, just finished
Eliza Madrigal: deep topic in itself
Sunshine Vayandar: loved all the happy art yesterday
Sunshine Vayandar: yes

oO0Oo Resident: bananas, steak, popcorn, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.. and Baby giggles. Just another Monday at PaB ::yawns::
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: lol
Sunshine Vayandar yawns too
Eliza Madrigal: so glad you made it Sun
Sunshine Vayandar: yes I was preparing all day to come
Sunshine Vayandar: then suddenly I had to watch my daughter
Sunshine Vayandar: I think she fell asleep on a leaf
Eliza Madrigal: aw
Sunshine Vayandar: in Perfect Paradise

Eliza Madrigal: :) I've seen her stop by a few times here....
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: really
Eliza Madrigal: but once at the end of a session...
Eliza Madrigal: will she give a concert soon?
Sunshine Vayandar: I hope so
Sunshine Vayandar: I got a stage for her ;)
Eliza Madrigal: (amazed by the hearty appetites here, fearful of making breakfast)
Sunshine Vayandar: fearful?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: I am still busy with my meat

oO0Oo Resident: may I quote you Sun?
Sunshine Vayandar: me?
Raffila Millgrove: lol
Sunshine Vayandar: lol yes
Sunshine Vayandar: I give you permission ;D
oO0Oo Resident giggles
Sunshine Vayandar: :D

Eliza Madrigal: this has been fun, thanks so much :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ty Liz
oO0Oo Resident: ty!
Sunshine Vayandar: I hope your son will be better quick
Raffila Millgrove: it was. So cheering. ty.
Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s real dinnertime in germany now, stay happy everyone :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)) nice to meet you Raffila
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Raffila Millgrove: bye Yaku
Sunshine Vayandar: love your name
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: Be happy Yaku
Raffila Millgrove: NIce to meet you too Sun.
Sunshine Vayandar: byebyeee all
Sunshine Vayandar: back to PP ;)
Eliza Madrigal: Be Happy Sunshine :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
oO0Oo Resident: 〜waves〜
oO0Oo Resident: ☻/
oO0Oo Resident: /▌
oO0Oo Resident: / \
Sunshine Vayandar: you all too
Eliza Madrigal: Be Happy Raffila, oO0Oo :)