2012.02.21 07:00 - Brimming

No session was recorded so Eliza posted a snippet from an early session...

Adams Rubble was taken with Pema's statement that we look to others for what we think we need and do not have
Adams Rubble: If I said that correctly
Pema Pera: most of those in the past who have truly seen have reported on pretty terrifying journeys to get to the point where they could really see clearly . . . but perhaps that is related to starting with too limited a view of religion and spiritual practices . . . .

Pema Pera: Yes, we think we need others to provide us with something
Pema Pera: so we treat others as providers, not freely as others to love and share openness with
..and the cost of seeing others as providers...
Pema Pera: we plunder the Earth and frankly, subtly, we plunder our friends
Pema Pera: and we plunder ourselves
Pema Pera: in desperation

Corvuscorva Nightfire: ourselves?
Pema Pera: until we learn to drop what we have

Adams Rubble: We certainly limit ourselves
Pema Pera: yes, we shortchange ourselves
Pema Pera: a form of plundering
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.

Pema Pera: view ourselves as too limited, unworthy, needy
Pema Pera: 'cause we stare ourselves blind at what we have, forgetting to see what we are
Pema Pera in an unusually serious mood :-)
Geo Netizen: at least we bury ourselves
Adams Rubble: :)
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Adams Rubble enjoying Pema's serious mood
Adams Rubble: learning from it
Pema Pera: brimstone!!
Pema Pera: oh yea of little faith!!
Corvuscorva Nightfire: ha!
Udge Watanabe: :)

Adams Rubble has heard brimstone and this isn't brimstone :)
Pema Pera: it's brimming at least, I hope
Adams Rubble not quaking yet
Geo Netizen: looking at other as providers: as a source of gratification
Pema Pera: yes
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Pema Pera: very hard to see that
Pema Pera: but when you really see it, easy to drop or at least to relax the tendency

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