The Guardian for this meeting was Yakuzza Lethecus. The comments are by Yakuzza Lethecus.

Yakuzza Lethecus: hey bruce
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Yaku!
Bruce Mowbray: My typist has had an interesting past two hours....
Bruce Mowbray: a friend of mine (in Indiana - the state just west of Ohio) had his house "buzzed" by a plane -- flying just above the house...
Bruce Mowbray: and the plane flew so low and so close that he took a few videos and photos...
Yakuzza Lethecus: repeatedly ?
Bruce Mowbray: and my typist has been tracking it (a private plane -- not commercial aircraft) on www.flightaware.com
Bruce Mowbray: and I found the owner (a company, not an individual) -- and its flight record.
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, repeadedly.
Bruce Mowbray: Fun!
Bruce Mowbray: tracking down the villain.
Bruce Mowbray: he he.
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Woly!
Wol Euler: hello bruce, hello yaku
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey wol
Bruce Mowbray: Got a '?' for you Wol....
Wol Euler: I hope to have a ! fory ou
Bruce Mowbray: kk.
Yakuzza Lethecus: was it a larger plane or just a small one ?
Yakuzza Lethecus: i would wonder if small flights are really tracked on those pages
Bruce Mowbray: Did you see the comment I made on aggers' log yesterday?
Wol Euler: no, I haven't seen that
Wol Euler: I can look, or you can tell me :)
Bruce Mowbray: I will get it for you -- It concerns TSK and the "marriage" of Great Space and Great Time, that we were talking about yesterday.
Bruce Mowbray: just a sec... I will find it.
Wol Euler: right
Bruce Mowbray: (Yes, I'll tell you -- as soon as Ifind it.) brb.
Bruce Mowbray: Shall I paste it into the chat box?
Wol Euler: sure
Bruce Mowbray: kk Here it is:
Bruce Mowbray: Bruce Mowbray says: I finally found the TSK reference - page 159: "We might say that [Great Time] is the inseparable partner of Great Space, the other member of the primordial marriage and love affair. The unrestrained fulfillment of the interplay of Great Space and Time is an intimacy that is complete and uncontrived." -- p. 160: "On the one hand we can speak of Great Space and Time, the Primordial Couple, whose interplay yields an infinity of appreciations, celebrations, and testimonies to the qualities of their union. Such appreciations are all Great Knowledge, their child. . . . Space, Time, and Knowledge are the quintessentially intimate and balanced family." edited 08:54, 4 Oct 2013
Wol Euler: ah, thank yuo
Bruce Mowbray: yw.
Wol Euler: that's an odd way to describe it
Wol Euler: odd in the sense of thought-provoking
Bruce Mowbray: curious, yes, and fascinating.
Bruce Mowbray: I also love his way of characterizing Great Time as "quintissentially slippery."
Bruce Mowbray: [I hope aggers won't mind my making the comment on her page.]
Wol Euler: surely not! comments are there to be made!
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
--BELL--
Yakuzza Lethecus: well, it´s certainly easier to talk about airplanes flying very low then about interpretations of TSK at least for me
Yakuzza Lethecus: and i had been to the voice sessions readings of tsk
Bruce Mowbray: I don't think Woly had arrived yet when I was talking about low-flying airplanes.
Wol Euler listens.
Wol Euler: no, I hadn't heard that
Bruce Mowbray: just a sec, Wol...
Bruce Mowbray: [13:05] Bruce Mowbray: My typist has had an interesting past two hours.... [13:05] Bruce Mowbray: a friend of mine (in Indiana - the state just west of Ohio) had his house "buzzed" by a plane -- flying just above the house... [13:06] Bruce Mowbray: and the plane flew so low and so close that he took a few videos and photos...
Bruce Mowbray: [13:06] Yakuzza Lethecus: repeatedly ? [13:06] Bruce Mowbray: and my typist has been tracking it (a private plane -- not commercial aircraft) on www.flightaware.com [13:06] Bruce Mowbray: and I found the owner (a company, not an individual) -- and its flight record.
Wol Euler nods.
Bruce Mowbray: If my typist is not mistaken, any flight anywhere in the world can be tracked in real-time using this website.
Wol Euler: any *registered* flight, perhaps
Bruce Mowbray: I have used in a few time to track incoming flights of friends....
Wol Euler: commercial, I meant
Yakuzza Lethecus: i think storm might actually be able to give a better answer on that
Bruce Mowbray: Well, in the USA, all flights have to be "filed" -- including non-commercial ones.
Wol Euler: wow
Bruce Mowbray: filed with the FAA.
Wol Euler: perhaps that is new, after 9/11
Bruce Mowbray: Federal Aviation Administration*
Wol Euler: it used to be that you could just go up and fly around, like going for a drive in your car
Bruce Mowbray: yes, perhaps so.
Bruce Mowbray: I'm not sure, though
Wol Euler: as long as you stayed out of the "traffic lanes"
Bruce Mowbray: They file flight plans with the airports that they intend to fly out of and in to.
Bruce Mowbray: ahhhhh! I feel like a bit of exercise. . . .
Bruce Mowbray: onigokko
Wol Euler laughs.
Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
Bruce Mowbray: stop
Bruce Mowbray: Ahhh!
Yakuzza Lethecus: i could imagine that storm could give some help on such a subject since he got a bit of inside into that
Wol Euler nods.
Bruce Mowbray: flying, you mean?
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes
Bruce Mowbray: cool.
Yakuzza Lethecus: the system and regulations around it i would guess, don´t know for sure how updated
Yakuzza Lethecus: well watched a movie about hannah arend before and was floating a bit in thought through the banality of evil and in how far consumer actions are related and of course it might scratch ,,being the change"
Bruce Mowbray: My typist's friend was so upset that he filed a complaint with the Federal Aviation Administration -- and sent a copy to my typist, so that's why my typist looked up the flight on flightaware.com this afternoon.
Wol Euler: quite right
Wol Euler: that is at the least very obnoxious
Bruce Mowbray: and dangerous.
Wol Euler: yep
Bruce Mowbray: He was flying so low that my friend took videos in which one can clearly see the airplane's registrations numbers.
Bruce Mowbray: Just a few feet over his house... and it went on for about half an hour.
Wol Euler: good god
Bruce Mowbray: YES!
Bruce Mowbray: and my friend is already paranoid to begin with....
Wol Euler: not good
Wol Euler: does he have firearms in the house?
Bruce Mowbray: so this only confirms his suspicions that someone is out to get him.
Bruce Mowbray: I don't think he owns any guns...
--BELL--
Bruce Mowbray: (and neither does my typist).
Wol Euler: good
Bruce Mowbray: My typist has no use for weapons.
Bruce Mowbray: Very few attack bears in the neighborhood.
Yakuzza Lethecus: bears = here ?
Bruce Mowbray: No, I meant in my typist's neighborhood.
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey zen
Zen Arado: 's current display-name is "Zen".
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Zen-ji.
Bruce Mowbray: COOOOOL hat!
Zen Arado: Hi all
Wol Euler: hello zen
Wol Euler: nice hat :)
Zen Arado: ty..t's a Fedora
Zen Arado: my grandfather wore one
Wol Euler smiles.
Zen Arado: ty Yaku
Wol Euler: my typist has one very much like that, woven from straw
Bruce Mowbray: ahhhh!
Bruce Mowbray: My typist used to have a pair of lederhausen, like unto Wol's.
Bruce Mowbray: He bought them in Switzerland in 1966.
Wol Euler grins.
Bruce Mowbray: and then gave them away a few years later.
Zen Arado: for yodeling in?
Wol Euler: of course :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: and i never looked up the meaning of fedora for me it just meant a linux distro :P
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, they improve one's yodeling amazingly.
Wol Euler: heheheh
Wol Euler: it was the hat of choice of the Rat Pack in the 60s, and of various groups before that
Zen Arado: they used to yodel on old country tracks
Zen Arado: for some reason
Bruce Mowbray: Ponders Frank Sinatra wearing a fedora.
Bruce Mowbray: Cannot ponder Frankie Blue Eyes yodeling, though.
Zen Arado: the first teen idol
Bruce Mowbray: yes!
Zen Arado: bobbysoxers
Wol Euler: yep
Bruce Mowbray: Mia Farrow was apparently quite taken by him.
Zen Arado: he did it his way
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013...tra-mia-farrow
Bruce Mowbray: Ronan looks EXACTLY LIKE his daddy, seems to moi.
Bruce Mowbray: https://www.google.com/search?q=rona...&bih=995&dpr=1
Wol Euler: A few hours after the story broke, Ronan, 25, appeared to express some scepticism, tweeting: "Listen, we're all possibly Frank Sinatra's son." heheheheh
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, even my typist claim that paternity.
Zen Arado: :)
Bruce Mowbray: claims*
Wol Euler smiles.
Zen Arado: junior rat pack
Wol Euler: mouse pack, perhaps
Bruce Mowbray: He had some really cool model trains, you know.
Wol Euler: oh?
Bruce Mowbray: yes, just a sec, please.
Bruce Mowbray: https://www.google.com/search?q=rona...e=off&tbm=isch
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.examiner.com/article/fran...his-toy-trains
Bruce Mowbray: Second Life also has some cool model trains.
Wol Euler: hmmm, didn'T know that
Zen Arado: sorry getting IMs
--BELL--
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I went there once -- looked ovcer the layout -- just a sec... (90 secs, to be exact)....
Zen Arado: amazing
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Zen Arado: my nieces husband is into that stuff
Zen Arado: actually makes the trains and sells them to collectors
Wol Euler smiles.
Bruce Mowbray: Unfortunately, my typist's place is too small for a layout...
Zen Arado: funny how we have different things that fascinate us
Bruce Mowbray: just as well.... He probably spend too much money on such a hobby.
Zen Arado: I stopped worrying
Bruce Mowbray: I'm currently getting interested in astronomy--- since someone gave my typist a telescope.
Zen Arado: if I have the money I just buy what I want
Bruce Mowbray: That's the spirit, Zen!
Zen Arado: so now you need a bigger one ...Right?
Zen Arado: :)
Bruce Mowbray: Nope, I just need to figure out how to use this one.
Wol Euler smiles.
Bruce Mowbray: just [another] sec
Zen Arado: that's more sensible than me :)
Bruce Mowbray: Here is the scope my friend gave my typist:
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.telescope.com/catalog/pro...FScSMwodS2sAoA
Bruce Mowbray: It actually works fine...
Bruce Mowbray: My typist is waiting for the moon to get larger so he can look at it.
Zen Arado: yeh quite expensive
Bruce Mowbray: bye, Yaku!
Bruce Mowbray: Yes! $400 USD.
Zen Arado: so much light pollution where I am though
Wol Euler: wb yaku
Bruce Mowbray: wb, Yaku!
Yakuzza Lethecus: thx, did it arrive what i last wrote ?
Bruce Mowbray: what was that, Yaku?
Wol Euler: that looks quite a beast, bruce
Zen Arado: I remember seeing the milky way when I was a kid in Belfast
Yakuzza Lethecus: that i was concerned about this: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...selves-israel/
Zen Arado: only dim gaslights
Bruce Mowbray: My typist can see the Milky Way every night -- if it's not cloudy.
Wol Euler: no, I didn't see that Yaku
Bruce Mowbray: In fact, the Milky Way is the very first thing he looked at through his new telescope.
Zen Arado: a lot to be said for rural living
Wol Euler nods.
Zen Arado: why are you concerned about that Yaku?
Bruce Mowbray: pardon my ignorance, but isn't the country's name "Israel"? So isn't "Israeli" a proper name?
Wol Euler: yes but: the court's point is that religious identities are more important and must be "displayed"
Zen Arado: Judaism is deeper than a nationality I guess
Zen Arado: yes
Bruce Mowbray: hmmmmm.
Bruce Mowbray: well, that's surely a big step backward, don't you think?
Yakuzza Lethecus: well, the german article was propably a bit deeper and pointed to a few expamples of the secular movement
Yakuzza Lethecus: http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...-a-926138.html
Wol Euler: "common secular identity rejected" is the headline
Bruce Mowbray: My typist reserves the 'right' to switch religious affiliations (or identifications) without notice to anyone!
Wol Euler: secular being the point
Wol Euler: though perhaps "common" is just as controversial
Wol Euler: many jews would decline any common ground with non-jews in "thier country"
Zen Arado: just shows the limitations of categories again to me
Bruce Mowbray: me too, Zen.
Zen Arado: like people calling me Irish
Zen Arado: when technically I am british
Agatha Macbeth: 's current display-name is "Aggers".
--BELL--
Wol Euler: hello aggers
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, aggers!
Zen Arado: or both
Agatha Macbeth waves
Zen Arado: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ozapft is :p
Zen Arado: Hi Aggers
Agatha Macbeth: Or something
Zen Arado: I better go to club
Zen Arado: hope you can come
Zen Arado: anyone
Bruce Mowbray: bye for now, Zen.
Wol Euler: see you there shortly
Zen Arado: :)
Zen Arado: byee
Agatha Macbeth: Yep dance time
Agatha Macbeth: TP me pls Zen
Bruce Mowbray: I better go check to see who's the latest to get shot. . .
Bruce Mowbray: such as it is....
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey aga
Bruce Mowbray: TY, Zen.
Yakuzza Lethecus: and see you soon zen
Santoshima Resident: 's current display-name is "San".
Bruce Mowbray: Going to bob on over to Zen-ji's dance -- and then off-line.
Bruce Mowbray: May all be safe and happy.
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey san
Yakuzza Lethecus: and bye bruce
Wol Euler: bye bruce, see you tere
Santoshima Resident: hey! sorry, late
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, San!
Santoshima Resident: bye bruce
Wol Euler: I'
Wol Euler: I'm off to dance with Zen and the bunch, take care and enjoy the weekend
Santoshima Resident: sounds good, enjoy!
Wol Euler: bye for now
Santoshima Resident: bye Wol
Yakuzza Lethecus: night wol
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, i don´t have more to elaborate on the article i read anyway
Santoshima Resident: oh, missed that,
Santoshima Resident: i'll dance too
Santoshima Resident: want to?
Yakuzza Lethecus: i will go to bed
Yakuzza Lethecus: but thank you
Santoshima Resident: ok, rest well, Yaku :)
Santoshima Resident: bfn