2013.10.09 07:00 - Banjo, Slide Guitar and Tango

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Zen Arado. The comments are by Zen Arado.


    Zen Arado: Hi Uns:)
    Uns Mistwalker: Hi Zen ;)
    Uns Mistwalker: no region restart today?
    Zen Arado: yes but it just came back
    Uns Mistwalker: ah, yes, I'm a little late.
    Zen Arado: I was at Kira
    Uns Mistwalker nods. I got there just as you were returning here.
    Zen Arado: you don't need to be early here:)

    Zen Arado: oh I watched a great Ted video yesterday
    Uns Mistwalker: yes?
    Zen Arado: it was posted on Facebook
    Zen Arado: http://www.ted.com/talks/david_holt_...ain_music.html
    Uns Mistwalker: looks interesting!
    Zen Arado: the first song he plays reminded me of a song we sang as kids in Belfast
    Zen Arado: 'She is charming, she is pretty, she is the belle of Belfast city
    Uns Mistwalker: listening...
    Zen Arado: probably derived from N.Irish settlers in USA
    Zen Arado: lots of them settled in Virginia in the Appalachians
    Uns Mistwalker: yes. I've heard it shows up in in syntax patterns and such there still.
    Zen Arado: would be great to research
    Uns Mistwalker: cool that open tuning on the banjo ... plays it with one hand.
    Zen Arado: oh? didn't know they did that on banjos
    Zen Arado: never had one
    Uns Mistwalker: Yeah.looked to me like he was playing with one hand for a bit there.
    Zen Arado: I played some of that the other week
    Zen Arado: Earl Scruggs and Lester Flett
    Zen Arado: old Clampetts theme
    Uns Mistwalker grins.
    Zen Arado: interchangeable with Irish traditional music
    Uns Mistwalker: Some of that bluegrass is just.... so fast -- related to jigs and reels i guess.
    Uns Mistwalker: yes.
    Zen Arado: just not so much banjo
    Zen Arado: mouth bow reminds me a Jew's Harp
    Zen Arado: haven't seen one for years
    Uns Mistwalker: yes.... very much so.
    Zen Arado: only remember them from when I was a kid
    Uns Mistwalker: I used to have one.... decades ago --- but this mouth bow seems to have a far richer sound.
    Zen Arado: yes
    Zen Arado: think I had one as well
    Zen Arado: remember playing a comb?
    Zen Arado: :)
    Uns Mistwalker: yeup!
    Zen Arado: made your lips itchy
    Zen Arado: :)
    Uns Mistwalker: i always wanted to learn to play the spoons.... but never did.
    Zen Arado: me neither
    Uns Mistwalker: couldn't figure out how to hold them.
    Zen Arado: he's a good stiryteller as well
    Zen Arado: story
    Uns Mistwalker: yes he is.
    Zen Arado: slide guitar like old blues singers
    Uns Mistwalker: something about him reminds me of the The Incredible String Band.
    Uns Mistwalker: yes.
    Uns Mistwalker: that sort of very narrative connection to song.... without being necessarily a ballad.
    Zen Arado: mmm entertaining

    Zen Arado: 'Oh Lordy pick a bale of cotton' :)
    Uns Mistwalker: I've been watching clips and such from these singing talent-shows that are popular now....it strikes me how here in this Ted Talk is a fellow who is a four-time grammy winner -- but would never make it on the strength of his voice.
    Zen Arado: yeh
    Zen Arado: I don't like those talent shows
    Zen Arado: the UK versions anyway
    Zen Arado: X Factor or something
    Uns Mistwalker: they are very commercial..... but sometimes the performances can reduce me to tears.
    Zen Arado: yeh suppose they come up with gems every now and then
    Uns Mistwalker: They do... and there are often back-stories that contribute to the moment...
    Zen Arado: love that 'Syeel Guitar Blues' song
    Uns Mistwalker: Sometimes someone who just is completely NOT the image of 'talent'....will have such an awesome voice.
    Uns Mistwalker: Yes...
    Uns Mistwalker: Steel Guitar is wonderful. I love pedal-steel guitar as well.
    Zen Arado: started from Hawaian guitars I think
    Zen Arado: remember Slim Whitman?
    Uns Mistwalker: No.
    Uns Mistwalker: Hawaian guitar player?
    Zen Arado: we can listen in a minute

    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey you two
    Zen Arado: Hi Yaku:)
    Uns Mistwalker: cool. I've got a favorite too.... but not sure the pedal stell run will be in the online version....
    Uns Mistwalker: hello Yaku
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Everyone :)
    Eliza Madrigal: sorry so late... took a nap
    Zen Arado: we are watching a video with a banjo player
    Zen Arado: Hi Eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: ok
    Zen Arado: the one that was posted on Facebook
    Zen Arado: think you saw it
    Zen Arado: then we were talking about steel guitars
    Zen Arado: and I remembered Slim Whitman used them a lot
    Eliza Madrigal: nice
    Zen Arado: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUKq_tRMpHM
    Zen Arado: not sure I like this now
    Zen Arado: a bit too sentimental
    Zen Arado: too like Jim Reeves
    Zen Arado: :)

    Zen Arado: Hi Clyte:)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: welcome clutemnestra
    Eliza Madrigal: Hello Clyte :)
    Clytemnestra Resident: Hi Zen, Uns, Yaku, Eliza#
    Zen Arado: he was an American folk singer who was also very popular in Europe in the fifties
    Zen Arado: 9Silm Whitman) Clyte
    Zen Arado: soory for bad typing
    Clytemnestra Resident: ooh yes
    Zen Arado: getting worse
    Clytemnestra Resident: I remember
    Clytemnestra Resident: well ...
    Zen Arado: you remember him?
    Clytemnestra Resident: I hae heard him!!
    Clytemnestra Resident: /,e chuckles
    Clytemnestra Resident: (oh and me too - typing!!0
    Clytemnestra Resident: (do you have the link of what you are listening to, please?)
    Zen Arado: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUKq_tRMpHM
    Zen Arado: and we watched this earlier: http://www.ted.com/talks/david_holt_...ain_music.html
    Clytemnestra Resident: thanks
    Clytemnestra Resident smiling
    Zen Arado: really enjoyed that
    Zen Arado: guy is a great storyteller and singer
    Clytemnestra Resident: oooh yes
    Zen Arado: wonder if I can do banjo on a DAW?
    Zen Arado: :)
    Clytemnestra Resident chuckles
    Zen Arado: probably can
    Zen Arado: progressive house folk
    Zen Arado: :)
    Zen Arado: no topic this week?
    Zen Arado: we dropped it:)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: no topic may be part of the topic "see what happens" "no directions" :)
    Zen Arado: what if nothing happens?
    Clytemnestra Resident: whose turn is it to offer something?
    Zen Arado: we don't like that
    Eliza Madrigal: >suspense music<
    Clytemnestra Resident looks around at everyone
    Zen Arado: we choose a topic at guardians meetings
    Zen Arado: usually
    Zen Arado: but some were saying we don't need one
    Zen Arado: so feel free
    Eliza Madrigal: it is a little debate - is a topic helpful or does it squash spontaneity?
    Clytemnestra Resident: trouble is there is such a W I D E variety of music in the world - where to beging?
    Zen Arado: yep
    Clytemnestra Resident: *begin
    Zen Arado: my problem
    Zen Arado: with everything
    Zen Arado: too unfocused maybe
    Clytemnestra Resident: nods
    Eliza Madrigal: curiosity is a great capacity but can be a little overwhelming I guess... too large a net

    Zen Arado: 'First off, the only way to be clear about what is real and what is nonsense is to wake up Here / Now. Then there is no confusion. Otherwise, we can easily get lost in analyzing, discussing and thinking about the pros and cons of different teachings and the legitimacy of different teachers. This is entertaining and distracting, and is often a favorite way in spiritual circles to stay in delusion, holding on to opinions and views, wanting certainty and the satisfaction of being right, wanting to be sure we are on the winning team and not the losing team—all keeping alive the dream-world that we think is reality. '
    Zen Arado: Joan Tollifson

    Eliza Madrigal: oooh... I heard a little story picture of "gaze like a lion instead of a dog"
    Clytemnestra Resident: ooh I do so agree
    Eliza Madrigal: I love dogs... but, dogs chase sticks wherever they go. A lion, goes for the stick thrower.
    Zen Arado: :)
    Zen Arado: dogs are very human
    Eliza Madrigal: lol
    Zen Arado: that's why they like us
    Clytemnestra Resident: as mine snores under my desk!
    Zen Arado: and vice versa
    Clytemnestra Resident: yes!

    Zen Arado: they love to play and are very sociable
    Eliza Madrigal: I have to get going but it was nice to peek in... have a lovely Wednesday
    Zen Arado: mine used to plonk himself down behind me
    Zen Arado: byee Eliza
    Clytemnestra Resident: Bye Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal waves
    Clytemnestra Resident: enjoy your day
    Zen Arado: then there was an almight scuffle when I moved the chair back
    Zen Arado: do we 'get lost in analyzing, discussing and thinking' ?
    Clytemnestra Resident: hmmm
    Clytemnestra Resident: more music I say, please
    Zen Arado: sometimes I feel that is true
    Zen Arado: :)
    Zen Arado: what would you like?
    Clytemnestra Resident: well I am very into Tango at that moment
    Zen Arado: Slim Whitman just died this year I notice
    Clytemnestra Resident: may I share a piece
    Clytemnestra Resident: ?
    Zen Arado: sure
    Clytemnestra Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUAPf_ccobc
    Clytemnestra Resident: sorry took a while to find
    Zen Arado: no worries :)
    Zen Arado: new Tango forms?
    Uns Mistwalker: I think topics provide a bit of structure -- but when the particiexcus please. need to attend to rl.
    Clytemnestra Resident: take care Uns
    Yakuzza Lethecus: with that music i will also slide out
    Zen Arado: byee Uns
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone
    Clytemnestra Resident looks up smiling
    Zen Arado: byee Yaku
    Clytemnestra Resident: oh dear
    Clytemnestra Resident: did my choice s
    Clytemnestra Resident: care everyone away
    Zen Arado: not the music Clyte
    Zen Arado: it was getting near time to go
    Zen Arado: it's great ;)
    Clytemnestra Resident: ah, yes, sorry I was late
    Zen Arado: Tango is a great dance
    Clytemnestra Resident: ooh yes, makes me want to soar into the air!
    Zen Arado: thank you
    Clytemnestra Resident: expecially this piece
    Clytemnestra Resident: my pleasure
    Zen Arado: 'Strictly come sdancing must be reviving old dance forms
    Zen Arado: ?
    Clytemnestra Resident: well, especially the tango - it is so sexy!
    Zen Arado: Tango probably became Salsa?
    Clytemnestra Resident: oh yes, the poor mans tango as it were
    Zen Arado: ah
    Clytemnestra Resident: the shanties of Cuba and south America
    Zen Arado: well I better go
    Zen Arado: ah yes
    Clytemnestra Resident: thank you Zen
    Clytemnestra Resident: enjoy your day
    Zen Arado: ty for coming Clyte
    Zen Arado: yu too
    Clytemnestra Resident: pleausre ;-)
    Clytemnestra Resident gives a happy wave as she walks away

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