The Guardian for this meeting was Lucinda Lavender. The comments are by Lucinda Lavender. Attending were Corvuscorva and Santoshima.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: 's current display-name is "Corvi".
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Lucinda Lavender: HI corvi:)
Lucinda Lavender: just waiting for the rez
Lucinda Lavender: It is Friday a bit after 7 pm slt
Lucinda Lavender: My computer had to download an update to come here tonight
Santoshima Resident: 's current display-name is "San".
Lucinda Lavender: HI San!
Santoshima Resident: `hi
Lucinda Lavender: I think corvi is away at the moment
Santoshima Resident: yes, it appears so
Santoshima Resident: hor're you?
Santoshima Resident: w
Lucinda Lavender: we are under the weather ...I have a cough
Lucinda Lavender: and you?
Santoshima Resident: hope you're feeling better soon ~
Santoshima Resident: i'm ok
Lucinda Lavender: thanks...this is a resting weekend
Santoshima Resident: that's good
Lucinda Lavender: I am going to try to remember the name of the person here who talked about time space and Knowledge...it was an interesting discussion and I had to go
Lucinda Lavender: goes to wiki
Santoshima Resident: hmm,let's see
Santoshima Resident: that was Daedalus
Santoshima Resident: 687
Lucinda Lavender: yes...Just found it
Santoshima Resident: eureka!
Lucinda Lavender: :) now looking for the exact session
Lucinda Lavender: hmmm I thought it was at Cal's session
Lucinda Lavender: maybe on the 6th
Santoshima Resident: yes, i think so
Lucinda Lavender: not posted then ah well
Santoshima Resident: not yet posted?
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Lucinda Lavender: something said there was intrigueing to me
Korel Laloix: Heya
Santoshima Resident: what was that?
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Korel!
Santoshima Resident: hiya Korel!
Korel Laloix: What was what?
Lucinda Lavender: something about time and space...it seemed like they came from underneath...that was perhaps an image I had at the time
Lucinda Lavender: the time Deadalus spoke of it
Santoshima Resident: i see
Korel Laloix: No idea
Lucinda Lavender: 10. 6.2013 T 19:00
Santoshima Resident: hmm, do you save the text?
Lucinda Lavender: I think I may
Lucinda Lavender: now that you say that
Santoshima Resident: oh good
Santoshima Resident: { otherwise, i can look for it ... byt am very lazy ... }
Lucinda Lavender: An attendee was speaking about the book Time Space and Knowledge
Santoshima Resident: byt = but
Lucinda Lavender: I can...but it will take a while talk amoungst your selves?
Lucinda Lavender: sorry for spellings
Santoshima Resident: as we always do :)
Santoshima Resident: anyone mind if ruby is here?
Korel Laloix: Ruby?
Santoshima Resident: dog
Korel Laloix: Don't see
Santoshima Resident: ruby stay
Santoshima Resident: stay 4
Santoshima Resident: ruby stay 4
Korel Laloix: Oh interesting.
Santoshima Resident: she and frank stay in inventory / no available prims the treehouse
Santoshima Resident: sadly, as they are great virtual hounds
Lucinda Lavender: Luci is in RL phone call (distracted by)
Korel Laloix: No worries...
Santoshima Resident: np
Korel Laloix: I am off to be I think.. moving tomorrow.
Korel Laloix: bed
Lucinda Lavender: good luck with moving:)
Santoshima Resident: good luck with that korel
Korel Laloix: Ciao all
Korel Laloix smiles
Santoshima Resident: ciao
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Lucinda Lavender: darn I forget the pathway to the saved session
Santoshima Resident: shall i look?
Lucinda Lavender: if you can...I would appreciate
Santoshima Resident: ok, date?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: eep
Santoshima Resident: hi corvi! eep to you, too
Lucinda Lavender: 10.6.2013...19:00
Lucinda Lavender: hi corvi
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I logged in about 15 to the hour
Santoshima Resident: ok, ty
Santoshima Resident: brb
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and then forgot to comeback at 7!
Lucinda Lavender: :))
Corvuscorva Nightfire: :) Hello, everybody
Lucinda Lavender: I am trying to remember what Deadelus said about space and time
Lucinda Lavender: that date above
Lucinda Lavender: finding it is a bit of a challenge
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I thought it was an interesting conversation as well. I hope you find the bit you chewed on
Lucinda Lavender: sorry corvi
Santoshima Resident: seems to be not the correct date, luci
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Santoshima Resident: or maybe i missed it. might have to wait until it is posted
Lucinda Lavender: ah...maybe not then it may have been after 8 pm
Corvuscorva Nightfire: the conversation started before 8
Santoshima Resident: nece/1 frank stay 4
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Corvuscorva Nightfire: but I don't know about the interesting bits
Corvuscorva Nightfire: some were after 8 for sure
Lucinda Lavender: it felt like space and time were both "something" or similarly not something
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods...like waves and particles?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: i mean..you look close at a particle and it's a wave
Lucinda Lavender: hi frank
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and look close at a wave and it seems to be nothing
Lucinda Lavender: i have heard that yes...
Corvuscorva Nightfire: except that we make meaning out of all those nothings
Lucinda Lavender: do both time and space underly each moment?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: i'm not sure what you mean?
Lucinda Lavender: me neither:)so sorry.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: heehee...but I think that we must be close!
Corvuscorva Nightfire: since we don't knwo what we mean
Lucinda Lavender: my not knowing is added to by being in the midst of a cold
Lucinda Lavender: brain is not working as well for some reason
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods...colds make thinking tough
Lucinda Lavender: have either of you had thoughts about space or time?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: yes yes yes...been thinking about it all week
Lucinda Lavender: anything you might say about them?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: heh...I've been thinking about lots of bits of it...like..does knowledge = meaning that we assign to "nothing?"
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and about movement in space and time
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and something about them both being still
Corvuscorva Nightfire: but I haven't got that one figured out yet
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and about how math and waves figure in time/space/knowledge
Lucinda Lavender: ah! it does appear to move... and be still like little points seen from each now.....would like to let you speak...while I go take part of a phone call
Lucinda Lavender: is that ok?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and remembering how someone said that we are the bit of being that knows itself...*blabbers on her stream of consciousness* Mmmhmmm
Lucinda Lavender: dear one who almost never calls...
Lucinda Lavender: be back soon
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I was thinking about that part...that there are more bits of being that are conscious...*smiles warmly at your communion with loved one*
Corvuscorva Nightfire: like "dogs" and ants.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and thinking about "forces" as desires
Corvuscorva Nightfire: which may be off topic but it's where my mind was wandering..I can't seem to let loose the metaphor of physics and math
Corvuscorva Nightfire: the tearing down of what we "know"
Corvuscorva Nightfire: to "movement" and "desires"
Santoshima Resident: please go ahead . i know nothing worth saying about any of those
Corvuscorva Nightfire: heh..me either, really
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Corvuscorva Nightfire: sorry..they were just metaphores in my head
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I'm a curious grocer, not a physicist
Santoshima Resident: ah!
Lucinda Lavender: maybe you must see and feel the movement and desire...but from outside of us perhaps we have no way knowing that they on their own exist
Corvuscorva Nightfire ponders
Lucinda Lavender: many seconds on the clock face that are place holders for something that is hard to know really
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods
Corvuscorva Nightfire: that's in the vein of what I've been thinking
Lucinda Lavender: Luci waits to given her turn with the dear one and the phone
Lucinda Lavender: be
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods
Corvuscorva Nightfire ponders the idea of stillness that she had
Lucinda Lavender: listining
Corvuscorva Nightfire: i was thinking that maybe time and space are still
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and our perspective keeps changing
Corvuscorva Nightfire: making us think that they are moving
Corvuscorva Nightfire: not, I think an original thought
Corvuscorva Nightfire: just one I've borrowed from somewhere
Lucinda Lavender: sounds good tho
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and been pondering
Corvuscorva Nightfire: probably from Pema
Lucinda Lavender: in my town there used to be a center you could rent called Stillpoint
Corvuscorva Nightfire grins
Corvuscorva Nightfire: that's coooooool
Lucinda Lavender: and i was never there but heard it held some dream circle sessions
Corvuscorva Nightfire grins at San Kitty
Lucinda Lavender: sweet kitty!
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods...a perfect setting
Lucinda Lavender: if you get still maybe you see the stillness more easily
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I want to close my eyes and ponder but I'm afraid I'll fall asleep
Santoshima Resident: is that a problem?
Santoshima Resident: probably just need sleep ...
Lucinda Lavender: i keep getting a mental picture of a glass jar that contains the space and time to create the stillness
Corvuscorva Nightfire: heh...it looks like a good thing from here.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: oooo..I like that picture
Lucinda Lavender: they are not contained but just for expressing part of the idea it seems to come up
Corvuscorva Nightfire thinks about perspective
Lucinda Lavender: each moment contained...
Corvuscorva Nightfire: oooooo
Lucinda Lavender: I will be taking the phone now keep on if you can:) and thank you!!
Corvuscorva Nightfire: San, you okay?
Santoshima Resident: i better go sit
Santoshima Resident: see you both sometime soon ~
Lucinda Lavender: we have been reading books about a mobile library truck
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Goodnight San!
Santoshima Resident: bye ~
Lucinda Lavender: the librarians solve the mysteries
Lucinda Lavender: bye dear sankitty
Corvuscorva Nightfire: oh, that sounds fun!
Lucinda Lavender: The Bad Book Affair
Lucinda Lavender: :))
Lucinda Lavender: ok...hear comes the phone for real!!
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Yay!
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I think its time for bed for me then
Corvuscorva Nightfire: goodnight Luci...thank you for letting me spout my confused thoughts on TSK
Lucinda Lavender: bye and thanks!
Corvuscorva Nightfire: it's been rattling around all week
Lucinda Lavender: love to hear the thought
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I took a program at college called On Knowing. I am reminded of a song I wrote then...
a chant of sorts: When I see ...i see.When I know... I know.
It was sung with dulcimer accompaniment and very repetitive. :)Luci