2013.10.18 19:00 - Stillness

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Lucinda Lavender. The comments are by Lucinda Lavender. Attending were Corvuscorva and Santoshima. 

     

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: 's current display-name is "Corvi".
    --BELL--


    Lucinda Lavender: HI corvi:)
    Lucinda Lavender: just waiting for the rez
    Lucinda Lavender: It is Friday a bit after 7 pm slt
    Lucinda Lavender: My computer had to download an update to come here tonight
    Santoshima Resident: 's current display-name is "San".
    Lucinda Lavender: HI San!
    Santoshima Resident: `hi
    Lucinda Lavender: I think corvi is away at the moment
    Santoshima Resident: yes, it appears so
    Santoshima Resident: hor're you?
    Santoshima Resident: w
    Lucinda Lavender: we are under the weather ...I have a cough
    Lucinda Lavender: and you?
    Santoshima Resident: hope you're feeling better soon ~
    Santoshima Resident: i'm ok
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks...this is a resting weekend
    Santoshima Resident: that's good
    Lucinda Lavender: I am going to try to remember the name of the person here who talked about time space and Knowledge...it was an interesting discussion and I had to go
    Lucinda Lavender: goes to wiki
    Santoshima Resident: hmm,let's see
    Santoshima Resident: that was Daedalus
    Santoshima Resident: 687
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...Just found it
    Santoshima Resident: eureka!
    Lucinda Lavender: :) now looking for the exact session
    Lucinda Lavender: hmmm I thought it was at Cal's session
    Lucinda Lavender: maybe on the 6th
    Santoshima Resident: yes, i think so
    Lucinda Lavender: not posted then ah well
    Santoshima Resident: not yet posted?
    --BELL--


    Lucinda Lavender: something said there was intrigueing to me
    Korel Laloix: Heya
    Santoshima Resident: what was that?
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Korel!
    Santoshima Resident: hiya Korel!
    Korel Laloix: What was what?
    Lucinda Lavender: something about time and space...it seemed like they came from underneath...that was perhaps an image I had at the time
    Lucinda Lavender: the time Deadalus spoke of it
    Santoshima Resident: i see
    Korel Laloix: No idea
    Lucinda Lavender: 10. 6.2013 T 19:00
    Santoshima Resident: hmm, do you save the text?
    Lucinda Lavender: I think I may
    Lucinda Lavender: now that you say that
    Santoshima Resident: oh good
    Santoshima Resident: { otherwise, i can look for it ... byt am very lazy ... }
    Lucinda Lavender: An attendee was speaking about the book Time Space and Knowledge
    Santoshima Resident: byt = but
    Lucinda Lavender: I can...but it will take a while talk amoungst your selves?
    Lucinda Lavender: sorry for spellings
    Santoshima Resident: as we always do :)
    Santoshima Resident: anyone mind if ruby is here?
    Korel Laloix: Ruby?
    Santoshima Resident: dog
    Korel Laloix: Don't see
    Santoshima Resident: ruby stay
    Santoshima Resident: stay 4
    Santoshima Resident: ruby stay 4
    Korel Laloix: Oh interesting.
    Santoshima Resident: she and frank stay in inventory / no available prims the treehouse
    Santoshima Resident: sadly, as they are great virtual hounds
    Lucinda Lavender: Luci is in RL phone call (distracted by)
    Korel Laloix: No worries...
    Santoshima Resident: np
    Korel Laloix: I am off to be I think.. moving tomorrow.
    Korel Laloix: bed
    Lucinda Lavender: good luck with moving:)
    Santoshima Resident: good luck with that korel
    Korel Laloix: Ciao all
    Korel Laloix smiles
    Santoshima Resident: ciao
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: darn I forget the pathway to the saved session
    Santoshima Resident: shall i look?
    Lucinda Lavender: if you can...I would appreciate
    Santoshima Resident: ok, date?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: eep
    Santoshima Resident: hi corvi! eep to you, too
    Lucinda Lavender: 10.6.2013...19:00
    Lucinda Lavender: hi corvi
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I logged in about 15 to the hour
    Santoshima Resident: ok, ty
    Santoshima Resident: brb
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: and then forgot to comeback at 7!
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: :) Hello, everybody
    Lucinda Lavender: I am trying to remember what Deadelus said about space and time
    Lucinda Lavender: that date above
    Lucinda Lavender: finding it is a bit of a challenge
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I thought it was an interesting conversation as well. I hope you find the bit you chewed on
    Lucinda Lavender: sorry corvi
    Santoshima Resident: seems to be not the correct date, luci
    --BELL--


    Santoshima Resident: or maybe i missed it. might have to wait until it is posted
    Lucinda Lavender: ah...maybe not then it may have been after 8 pm
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: the conversation started before 8
    Santoshima Resident: nece/1 frank stay 4
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: but I don't know about the interesting bits
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: some were after 8 for sure
    Lucinda Lavender: it felt like space and time were both "something" or similarly not something
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods...like waves and particles?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: i mean..you look close at a particle and it's a wave
    Lucinda Lavender: hi frank
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: and look close at a wave and it seems to be nothing
    Lucinda Lavender: i have heard that yes...
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: except that we make meaning out of all those nothings
    Lucinda Lavender: do both time and space underly each moment?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: i'm not sure what you mean?
    Lucinda Lavender: me neither:)so sorry.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: heehee...but I think that we must be close!
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: since we don't knwo what we mean
    Lucinda Lavender: my not knowing is added to by being in the midst of a cold
    Lucinda Lavender: brain is not working as well for some reason
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods...colds make thinking tough
    Lucinda Lavender: have either of you had thoughts about space or time?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: yes yes yes...been thinking about it all week
    Lucinda Lavender: anything you might say about them?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: heh...I've been thinking about lots of bits of it...like..does knowledge = meaning that we assign to "nothing?"
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: and about movement in space and time
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: and something about them both being still
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: but I haven't got that one figured out yet
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: and about how math and waves figure in time/space/knowledge
    Lucinda Lavender: ah! it does appear to move... and be still like little points seen from each now.....would like to let you speak...while I go take part of a phone call
    Lucinda Lavender: is that ok?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: and remembering how someone said that we are the bit of being that knows itself...*blabbers on her stream of consciousness* Mmmhmmm
    Lucinda Lavender: dear one who almost never calls...
    Lucinda Lavender: be back soon
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I was thinking about that part...that there are more bits of being that are conscious...*smiles warmly at your communion with loved one*
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: like "dogs" and ants.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: and thinking about "forces" as desires
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: which may be off topic but it's where my mind was wandering..I can't seem to let loose the metaphor of physics and math
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: the tearing down of what we "know"
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: to "movement" and "desires"
    Santoshima Resident: please go ahead . i know nothing worth saying about any of those
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: heh..me either, really
    --BELL--


    Corvuscorva Nightfire: sorry..they were just metaphores in my head
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I'm a curious grocer, not a physicist
    Santoshima Resident: ah!
    Lucinda Lavender: maybe you must see and feel the movement and desire...but from outside of us perhaps we have no way knowing that they on their own exist
    Corvuscorva Nightfire ponders
    Lucinda Lavender: many seconds on the clock face that are place holders for something that is hard to know really
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: that's in the vein of what I've been thinking
    Lucinda Lavender: Luci waits to given her turn with the dear one and the phone
    Lucinda Lavender: be
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods
    Corvuscorva Nightfire ponders the idea of stillness that she had
    Lucinda Lavender: listining
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: i was thinking that maybe time and space are still
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: and our perspective keeps changing
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: making us think that they are moving
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: not, I think an original thought
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: just one I've borrowed from somewhere
    Lucinda Lavender: sounds good tho
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: and been pondering
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: probably from Pema
    Lucinda Lavender: in my town there used to be a center you could rent called Stillpoint
    Corvuscorva Nightfire grins
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: that's coooooool
    Lucinda Lavender: and i was never there but heard it held some dream circle sessions
    Corvuscorva Nightfire grins at San Kitty
    Lucinda Lavender: sweet kitty!
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods...a perfect setting
    Lucinda Lavender: if you get still maybe you see the stillness more easily
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I want to close my eyes and ponder but I'm afraid I'll fall asleep
    Santoshima Resident: is that a problem?
    Santoshima Resident: probably just need sleep ...
    Lucinda Lavender: i keep getting a mental picture of a glass jar that contains the space and time to create the stillness
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: heh...it looks like a good thing from here.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: oooo..I like that picture
    Lucinda Lavender: they are not contained but just for expressing part of the idea it seems to come up
    Corvuscorva Nightfire thinks about perspective
    Lucinda Lavender: each moment contained...
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: oooooo
    Lucinda Lavender: I will be taking the phone now keep on if you can:) and thank you!!
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: San, you okay?
    Santoshima Resident: i better go sit
    Santoshima Resident: see you both sometime soon ~
    Lucinda Lavender: we have been reading books about a mobile library truck
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Goodnight San!
    Santoshima Resident: bye ~
    Lucinda Lavender: the librarians solve the mysteries
    Lucinda Lavender: bye dear sankitty
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: oh, that sounds fun!
    Lucinda Lavender: The Bad Book Affair
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    Lucinda Lavender: ok...hear comes the phone for real!!
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Yay!
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I think its time for bed for me then
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: goodnight Luci...thank you for letting me spout my confused thoughts on TSK
    Lucinda Lavender: bye and thanks!
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: it's been rattling around all week
    Lucinda Lavender: love to hear the thought

     

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    With Eliza's help the link is listed above. I guess we are continually allowed to inquire....Knowledge not shutting us out...tho my mental forms of ordering do try to put limits around what I am seeing.

    I took a program at college called On Knowing. I am reminded of a song I wrote then...
    a chant of sorts: When I see ...i see.When I know... I know.
    It was sung with dulcimer accompaniment and very repetitive. :)Luci
    Posted 20:44, 19 Oct 2013
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