2014.06.01 07:00 - PaB, PP, SL, RL

The Guardian for this meeting was Bleu Oleander. The comments are by Bleu Oleander.

Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: yay
Bleu Oleander: with tea?
Agatha Macbeth: Here I am
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Agatha Macbeth: And toast
Bleu Oleander: so let the games begin!
Agatha Macbeth: hehe
Agatha Macbeth: Nothing too energetic ha
Bleu Oleander: don't want soggy toast hehe
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed no
Bleu Oleander: so did you do your questionnaire?
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Bleu Oleander: yay!
Agatha Macbeth: Sent it to Liz in email
Bleu Oleander: thank you!!
Agatha Macbeth: Hope she gets it alright
Agatha Macbeth: All the notices went out okay?
Bleu Oleander: we've collected quite a few so far
Agatha Macbeth: Sadly Liz picked the one day of the week I can hardly be online :p
Agatha Macbeth: Anyway, sorted now
Bleu Oleander: which day is that?
Agatha Macbeth: Saturday
Bleu Oleander: busy day saturday?
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, family day
Bleu Oleander: ah nice
Bleu Oleander: big fam?
Agatha Macbeth: My two boys
Bleu Oleander: very nice
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, they are darlings
Bleu Oleander: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hopefully we can get something sorted out with PaB
Bleu Oleander: I think so ... good we're talking about it I think
Agatha Macbeth: Well talking always helps I think
Bleu Oleander: groups need attention just like people do
Agatha Macbeth: Absolutely
Agatha Macbeth: Thing with PaB is it never did have any real 'leadership'
Bleu Oleander: not in name as such but Pema definitely lead/inspired
Agatha Macbeth: Of course
Agatha Macbeth: But he always maintained he wasn't the leader as such, just the founder :p
Bleu Oleander: yes but the group is feeling his absence
Agatha Macbeth: Which is fair enough, he's a busy guy
Bleu Oleander: indeed
Agatha Macbeth: Can't be easy commuting across two continents constantly
Bleu Oleander: !
Bleu Oleander: a highlight for me was his time book and the series of sessions he organized around it
Agatha Macbeth: TSK?
Bleu Oleander: no the one he wrote with the group
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Agatha Macbeth: Remind me what it was called?
Bleu Oleander: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/PaB_Books/Magic_of_Time
Agatha Macbeth: Ah right
Bleu Oleander: were he wrote a chapter and we all contributed
Agatha Macbeth nods
Bleu Oleander: lasted about a year I think
Agatha Macbeth: It was a good project to begin with, but everything has a shelf life
Bleu Oleander: hehe yes
Agatha Macbeth: Think PaB is really just a microcosm of what is happening in SL generally
Bleu Oleander: yes?
Agatha Macbeth: Mira says similar things about PP
Bleu Oleander: how is PP doing?
Bleu Oleander: does everyone still participate?
Agatha Macbeth: Pretty slow these days I think
Agatha Macbeth: She actually cancelled the 6th birthday celebrations cos nobody seemed to want to contribute
Bleu Oleander: I think the nature of online stuff requires new projects to start all the time
Agatha Macbeth nods
Bleu Oleander: really?
Agatha Macbeth: Shorter attention span than RL
Bleu Oleander: I didn't know she was 6 years
Agatha Macbeth: PP is, same as PaB
Agatha Macbeth: Started a month later
Bleu Oleander: didn't realize they started at the same time
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: Interesting coincidence
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: does PP have a website or wiki?
Agatha Macbeth: You know I'm not sure
Agatha Macbeth: Could try google
Agatha Macbeth: Nothing in the group info about it
Bleu Oleander: they have a FB page
Agatha Macbeth: Ah yes, forgot about that
Agatha Macbeth: Think i actually liked it hehe
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bleu Oleander: what were or are the things that make PP work as a group?
Agatha Macbeth: Good question!
Agatha Macbeth: I really only go there for Berti's meditations
Bleu Oleander: is it essentially the same people as PaB?
Bleu Oleander: ah ok
Agatha Macbeth: Well it seems to have the same pluses and minuses
Bleu Oleander: I've never been to his meditations
Agatha Macbeth: Actually I didn't realise there were so few people in the group
Agatha Macbeth: I went there more often with Wol and Ari when fael and Arch were in SL
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Adams :)
Bleu Oleander: hey Adams :)
Agatha Macbeth: LTNS
Bleu Oleander: how are u?
Adams Rubble: Good morning Bleu and Agatha :)
Adams Rubble: Sorry it took so long to get here this morning
Agatha Macbeth: Are you wearing pink or is it my viewer?
Adams Rubble: it is a yellowish pink I guess
Agatha Macbeth: Yes SL can be a pain sometimes
Bleu Oleander: peachy
Adams Rubble: peach, yes
Agatha Macbeth: Yes peach...spot on
Bleu Oleander: pretty in peach
Adams Rubble: not SL's fault, RL
Agatha Macbeth: I keep meaning to start reading your blog again
Agatha Macbeth: Working out all those abbreviations :p
Adams Rubble: :)
Agatha Macbeth: I seemed to get out of the habit of blog reading after Wol went on hiatus
Adams Rubble: no problem, the blog is not meant for general reading :)
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Adams Rubble: I am not a good enough writer for that
Agatha Macbeth: I didn't realise
Agatha Macbeth: Oh you are!
Bleu Oleander: mostly for yourself then?
Adams Rubble: yes, to help focus on things
Agatha Macbeth: I love the pics you post too
Bleu Oleander: interesting that you put it online
Bleu Oleander: can u share a link in IM?
Adams Rubble: it is a long sstory about why it is online but it goes back to my first two days in PaB
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Bleu Oleander: wow long time then
Adams Rubble: I thought it was unlinked but I made a link to PaB and Pema picked it up and made it publo
Adams Rubble: public
Adams Rubble: it was simply a record of my nine second stops
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: I tend to read the old PaB long far more than the recent ones :p
Agatha Macbeth: logs*
Agatha Macbeth: not long
Adams Rubble: :)
Bleu Oleander: will enjoy reading this Adams, thanks!
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like I'm using Brucie's voice typer
Bleu Oleander: :)
Agatha Macbeth: The dreaded dragon
Adams Rubble: some of those logs are long :)
Agatha Macbeth: They are indeed
Bleu Oleander: did you write daily?
Agatha Macbeth: I know the six one :p
Adams Rubble: sometimes
Agatha Macbeth: Six hour
Adams Rubble: yes
Adams Rubble: we sure could talk and talk and taalk
Agatha Macbeth: Can you imagine a six hour PaB session now?
Bleu Oleander: amazing! I would like to be able to do that but I don't think of myself as a writer
Agatha Macbeth: Xira :)
Xirana Oximoxi: 's current display-name is "Xirana".
Adams Rubble: Hello Xirana :)
Bleu Oleander: hi Xiri :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hello again
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Agatha, Adams, Bleu! :)
Bleu Oleander: you have an opening today I see?
Agatha Macbeth: We're almost in alphabetical order
Bleu Oleander: ha! we are
Agatha Macbeth: Actually we ARE in a.o.
Agatha Macbeth: Yes
Xirana Oximoxi: yes:) I nearly forgot...I've put the clock to be in time :)
Bleu Oleander: new work?
Agatha Macbeth: Oh an exhibition?
Xirana Oximoxi: just few new
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Bleu Oleander: noon?
Agatha Macbeth: I'll take a look
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...it'smamsmall nice gallery... a place :)
Agatha Macbeth likes nice and small
Bleu Oleander: LM?
Xirana Oximoxi: I am looking for it :) moment
Bleu Oleander: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Bleu Oleander: thank you all for doing the survey btw ... nice that many have contributed their ideas!
Agatha Macbeth: Gracias
Adams Rubble: TY Xirana
Xirana Oximoxi: de nada :))
Xirana Oximoxi: you're welcome:)
Agatha Macbeth: Well always good to know what people are thinking
Bleu Oleander: yes!
Agatha Macbeth: The more views we have the better
Adams Rubble: I have been thinking that any issues with PaB are probably more due to what is happening is SL than in PaB
Agatha Macbeth nods
Bleu Oleander: what are the main issues with SL?
Adams Rubble: since they messed around with the educational discount, things have not been the same
Xirana Oximoxi: in what sense, Adams?
Agatha Macbeth: I actually said more or less the same to Bleu earlier :p
Adams Rubble: so much content has left
Bleu Oleander: did they put that back?
Agatha Macbeth: Yes
Adams Rubble: yes but it was too little, tpp late
Adams Rubble: too late
Adams Rubble: people have gone
Bleu Oleander: they messed with the artists too
Bleu Oleander: many left
Adams Rubble: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe LL think SL should not be educational
Adams Rubble: but there seems to be a core group of PaB that is srong
Bleu Oleander: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Yayy here comes Liz
Adams Rubble: even if we do not always attend :)
Xirana Oximoxi: ahh yes...some went to Inworld... I have an avtar there and also an exhibit...but I think there's very few people, much less than here
Agatha Macbeth: Lizzie ♥
Eliza Madrigal: 's current display-name is "Eliza".
Bleu Oleander: ... speaking of strong ... hey Eliza
Adams Rubble: Hello Eliza :)
Agatha Macbeth: The strongest...:p
Bleu Oleander: :P
Eliza Madrigal: Hi friends :) :P
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: Glad you made it...saves me posting the GM :p
Xirana Oximoxi: hi Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: well, if you insist ^.^
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Eliza Madrigal: Didn't realize you all would be here, otherwise would have signed right on rather than read over surveys :)
Agatha Macbeth: Now I think, glad you reminded me, must check my chat log is on
Agatha Macbeth: If I can find where it is these days
Eliza Madrigal: amazing how I can read 10 surveys and feel encouraged but one with a different tone really hits me hard emotionally
Eliza Madrigal: *just one
Bleu Oleander: its very interesting to read everyone's thoughts
Agatha Macbeth: Rough with the smooth?
Eliza Madrigal: yes, glad for ruthlessness in some ways but hm...not easy to balance with idea of 'friends' at same time
Xirana Oximoxi: you mean that there's one that gives a different point of view about PaB?
Eliza Madrigal: just noticing my own emotions... the POV I don't disagree with actually..
Eliza Madrigal: lots I agree with, just 'how' people sometimes say the things they say
Eliza Madrigal: ::shrug:::
Bleu Oleander: no guarantees that the words will be received as intended
Eliza Madrigal: yes definitely know I am most of the equation here
Eliza Madrigal: but do note that it affects energy levels
Agatha Macbeth: Plus may be a language barrier for some to cross ;-)
Eliza Madrigal: and abilities
Bleu Oleander: indeed
Adams Rubble: when one answers a survey, the thoughts are likely to relect that person's thoughts at that momeent in time
Eliza Madrigal nods
Bleu Oleander: before or after coffee can make a diff LOL
Adams Rubble: :)
Eliza Madrigal: I keep mantra-ing "it isn't personal"
Eliza Madrigal: but, it is, hahah
Bleu Oleander: everything we perceive is personal
Adams Rubble: you should not take it personally whatever it is
Agatha Macbeth: Personal to ourselves, yes
Eliza Madrigal: "whatever something is, it ought to be personal" <--line from You've Got Mail :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eliza Madrigal: but in this case I'm glad we have some time for thoughts to settle
Agatha Macbeth: 'Stretch out with your feelings Luke'
Eliza Madrigal: before making decisions...so I can storm off and come back a few times
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Adams Rubble: It was not a survey on how well PaB is bring run
Eliza Madrigal: true
Bleu Oleander: right
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Agatha Macbeth ponders a stormy Liz
Eliza Madrigal grins
Eliza Madrigal: :::fee fie fo fum:::
Adams Rubble: you have done a wonderful job keeping things going Elza
Bleu Oleander: is there an AO for that?
Agatha Macbeth: Ha
Eliza Madrigal: should be one :) Remember when Eden set herself on fire ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: 'They have AOs for everything'
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks Adams...core have kept trying, and even those who have pulled back haven't stopped caring
Eliza Madrigal: lots to be really encouraged about in responses actually
Agatha Macbeth cheers
Adams Rubble: It used to be there were people wandering in almosty every session
Bleu Oleander: I think so!
Eliza Madrigal: I think that's why some things feel out of place now..they were geared toward visitors
Adams Rubble: sometimes two or three at a time :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: we don't even get griefers now!
Eliza Madrigal: lol
Bleu Oleander: lol
Bleu Oleander: easy fix
Eliza Madrigal: my ejector is rusty
Agatha Macbeth: We are not worthy :D
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Eliza Madrigal: OK, better get to village... thanks for friendly company
Bleu Oleander: shall we go to the GM?
Eliza Madrigal: zapped all my grumbliness
Bleu Oleander: thanks for coming all
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Eliza Madrigal: YEs, thanks
Agatha Macbeth: Zzzap
Adams Rubble: I need to go so bye everyone :)
Agatha Macbeth: TC Adams
Bleu Oleander: bye Adams NTSY
Xirana Oximoxi: bye Adams!! Have a nice Sunday!