2014.06.06 13:00 - lets do the time warp again!

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Yakuzza Lethecus. The comments are by Yakuzza Lethecus.


    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi, nabend wol :)
    Wol Euler: nabend, yaku
    Wol Euler: do you have monday off too?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well sweden had today off
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it was the national holiday today
    Wol Euler: ah
    Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey bruce
    Wol Euler: hello bruce
    Yakuzza Lethecus: how are you doing bruce, i missed you
    Bruce Mowbray: , hi,Yaku! , hi, Wol!
    Bruce Mowbray: I am doing well thank you!
    Bruce Mowbray: much better now that I am all rested up from that Chicago trip.
    Bruce Mowbray: how is everything in Sweden?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: national holiday today, just mentioned that to wol
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but we haven´t been out
    Bruce Mowbray: (Ahhh!)
    Bruce Mowbray: so is this rather like your Independence Day?
    Bruce Mowbray: I know absolutely no Swedish history.
    Bruce Mowbray: all I know about Scandinavian history is that a whole lot of Swedes Norwegians and Danes settled in the Midwest ( of the United States.)
    Bruce Mowbray: so lots of Anderson's Erickson's --- you get the idea.
    Bruce Mowbray: in my high school yearbook just about half of the names end in -sen or -son
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, those -son names are still the most popular names here, i think andersson leads
    Bruce Mowbray: nods.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but got to google for verification
    Bruce Mowbray: My very first girlfriend -- in the second grade -- was Connie Anderson.
    Bruce Mowbray: I remember her well.
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Bruce Mowbray: my piano teacher's name was Everson.
    Bruce Mowbray: drop coming quickly.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: no, eventually johansson :P
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey qt
    --BELL--
    Qt Core: Hi all!
    Wol Euler: hello qt
    Bruce Mowbray: , Qt!
    Bruce Mowbray: how's everything in Italy?
    Bruce Mowbray: I just asked Yaku how everything was in Sweden.
    Bruce Mowbray: and I'm about to ask Wol how everything is in Germany.
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Bruce Mowbray: How's everything in Germany, Wol?
    Qt Core: quite good, expecting hot temps in next days
    Bruce Mowbray: you see I am prescient!
    Wol Euler: muddling along
    Qt Core: and in the USA ?
    Wol Euler: crazy weather
    Bruce Mowbray: Well, here on the farm we finally got the rain we needed badly.
    Bruce Mowbray: so my typist is happy.
    Bruce Mowbray: Wol, I read where you said it got up to 95° F?
    Wol Euler: that's the forecast, yes, three days ago was 73°F, and end of next week will be 77°F
    Wol Euler: madness.
    Bruce Mowbray: Wow.
    Bruce Mowbray: extreme fluctuation.
    Qt Core: same forecast for us, up to middle next week
    Wol Euler: but of course that has nothing to do with climate change! no no no
    Bruce Mowbray: oh no no no no.
    Wol Euler: every decade for the last three decades has been the hottest decade ever recorded, but that too has nothing to do with climate change.
    Bruce Mowbray: Did I tell you about my trip to the national Park in Alaska - where the ranger station was built with an enormous plateglass window
    Wol Euler listens.
    Bruce Mowbray: so that people could listen to the park ranger speak about the glaciers, and look at the glaciers through that window?
    Bruce Mowbray: guess what! no more glaciers!
    Wol Euler nods.
    Bruce Mowbray: so the poor park ranger has to stand there talking to people about glaciers that have receded hundreds of yards.
    Bruce Mowbray: aOh no. no such thing as global warming ( indeed).
    Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
    Wol Euler nods.
    Bruce Mowbray: Maybe they will move the ranger station -- that would make the disbelievers happy.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: do you pay to compensate for the eco damage of ur flights wol ?
    Bruce Mowbray: Wait till lower Manhattan is flooded, and New Orleans, and Miami . . . Then ask that the disbelievers what they think about it.
    Bruce Mowbray listens.
    Wol Euler: "coincidence! and that marxist president, it was a judgement!"
    Bruce Mowbray: I want to see his birth certificate!
    Bruce Mowbray: or are you talking about Angela Merkel?
    Qt Core: tell me next time you wish to visit Venice
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Bruce Mowbray: OH, poor Venice.
    Bruce Mowbray: Fortunately for my typist, his farm is 625 feet above sea level.
    Qt Core: and we are having a new big scandal about bribery for the project that should protect Venice from high waters too
    Qt Core: Venice major has been arrested
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, the major has been enjailed
    Qt Core: arrest asked even for the former region president, but as he is a member of the parliament the parliament should vote about it
    Bruce Mowbray: Is it about building higher walls? or perhaps building a dam surrounding Venice? I am not aware of what the project to save Venice involves.
    Wol Euler nods.
    Bruce Mowbray: in America I think we would call that "the mayor" -- or is "the major" a different official?
    Qt Core: som e big metal box anchored under the water outside the lagoon, if the water become high you fill them with air and they become almost a dam
    Bruce Mowbray: Over here, cities have mayors.
    Qt Core: (just a typo)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: I see. Thanks! I will do some research later and find out more about it.
    Qt Core: the project is called "Mose"
    Bruce Mowbray: it sounds like a technology that could be used, perhaps, to save lower Manhattan Miami New Orleans and many other coastal cities.
    Bruce Mowbray: Do you folks hear someone screaming?
    Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: no, but just put on my headset
    Yakuzza Lethecus: after u asked
    Wol Euler: no ... or were you being metaphorical?
    Bruce Mowbray: No, every few seconds I hear a scream in the distance. I am also wearing a headset, so I'm sure it's not in real life.
    --BELL--
    Bruce Mowbray: (also, not being metaphorical ---- although that fits!) WOW. just saw my first hummingbird of the season!
    Bruce Mowbray: it came up to the window behind the computer monitor.
    Bruce Mowbray: reminding me it's time to put out the hummingbird feeder!
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Qt Core: not a great bird year for me, one died crashing on a window at work and another hit my car while crossing the road flying...
    Bruce Mowbray: McBlubson loves to ride on the red line.
    Bruce Mowbray: OH my! And a bad year for the birds, too.
    Bruce Mowbray: I hate it when I hit a living thing while driving . . . It ruins the whole day.
    Bruce Mowbray: (for the living thing, especially.)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe, and while trying to be eco friendly the new solar plant in california is supposed to be a birdgrill
    Qt Core: speaking on an evolutionary level it will teach them not to fly on road at 50 cm from ground!
    Bruce Mowbray: I have heard that windmills -- for generating power from the wind -- can also be dangerous for birds.
    Bruce Mowbray: not to mention the increasing intensity of hurricanes, which is a no-no for birds too.
    Qt Core: if build on their regular routes, yes
    Bruce Mowbray: you know, Qt raises an interesting question. Will evolution be able to keep up with climate change? for some species perhaps so, but for others perhaps not.
    Qt Core: evolution yes, current species, not necessarily
    Wol Euler: I think not, because it's happening too fast. Evolution requires hundreds or thousands of generations, this is happening in a span of years
    Qt Core: so insects and small, short lived animals will survive
    Wol Euler: I think it more likely that there will be extinction events, like the fall of the dinosaurs
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm sure you're all aware of the paradigm used by Thomas Huxley to explain evolution during the Industrial Revolution: the moths in England that were black could disguise themselves in the soot of the smokestacks, whereas the white moths became extinct.
    Bruce Mowbray: However, it's very uncommon for evolution to move so quickly. The arrival of mutations is a fairly rare event.
    Wol Euler: ... which I would call extinction rahter than evolution as such, because the moths didn't actually *change*
    Bruce Mowbray: so unless there is diversity and variety already in existence within a species, -- some diverse property which enables it to survive through the climate change -- than that species better be looking for another planet.
    Wol Euler: humans, for example
    Wol Euler: are very un-diverse
    Wol Euler: all of our food species, too
    Wol Euler: the monsanto crops that are clones of one single grain of whatever
    Bruce Mowbray: Monocultures in agriculture are a royal pain. I have been fighting against them for four decades -- getting nowhere at all.
    Bruce Mowbray: There are only two or three hybrids ( seeds for corn, soybeans, wheat, etc.) that are being planted.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: most of us want cheaper food, monocultures provide what most of us want
    Bruce Mowbray: yes, and there's the problem.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: diversity is just a dissonance
    Yakuzza Lethecus: we want the old mc donalds farm but cheap chicken don´t come from there
    Wol Euler nods.
    Bruce Mowbray: ;)
    Bruce Mowbray: I have a few friends who are organic farmers. It is a sort of religion with them. They not only raise their own food, they make their own soap, their own clothes, and educate their children at home.
    Bruce Mowbray: There is something very comforting and " right- feeling" about their lifestyle. I admire them. But I know it takes an enormous amount of energy and focus to do with they are doing. I admire them for that.
    Bruce Mowbray: They are saving the planet ( in a tiny way - a symbolic way.) Think globally - act locally.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: in a light form it works as lifestyle i guess like urban farming, checking everything with sensors and alike, but i doubt anyone is doing that really serious
    --BELL--
    Bruce Mowbray: I will be having dinner with them tomorrow evening. I'm really looking forward to it. they are total vegetarians, of course, but there is a wonderful energy at their table.
    Bruce Mowbray: They also have 10 cats!
    Wol Euler: why "but"? :)
    Qt Core: electricity only from solar/wind/water ?
    Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
    Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
    Bruce Mowbray:
    Bruce Mowbray: No, they are still on the grid, sadly.
    Bruce Mowbray: but they want to get off of it. they have recently purchased land, and I know they are planning alternative energy sources.
    Bruce Mowbray: I intend to check that out with them tomorrow.
    Bruce Mowbray: go to be young! with all that idealism, enthusiasm, and energy!
    Qt Core: i saw some clever microturbine on little country rivers
    Bruce Mowbray listens.
    Bruce Mowbray: wow that's a great idea.....
    Qt Core: just some video of a few family living in a rural area, a little river and a hill
    Bruce Mowbray: And if one had a stream running through one's property . . .
    Bruce Mowbray: wow!
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm definitely going to check this out!
    Bruce Mowbray:
    Bruce Mowbray: (Pardon my enthusiasm,)
    Bruce Mowbray: I brought in the fish so they could share my excitement.
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Bruce Mowbray: anything involving water is of interest to them.
    Bruce Mowbray: since they swim in the air, mostly, and long for water.
    Bruce Mowbray: but that's how it goes sometimes.
    Bruce Mowbray: one day, people in coastal cities, will long for air the way my fish now long for water.
    Bruce Mowbray: perhaps.
    Bruce Mowbray: A quick change of subject:
    Bruce Mowbray: Yaku,
    Bruce Mowbray: do you have one of those Urbindo computer things?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: arduino
    Bruce Mowbray: yes that's it!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: 3 unos
    Bruce Mowbray: all my goodness!
    Bruce Mowbray: oh my goodness!
    Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: nah, they are cheap one is running 24/7
    Bruce Mowbray: I am taking a course in creative coding, and some folks are mentioning that device.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: one has destroyed 3,3v line and one is for testing :P
    Bruce Mowbray: so you run appliances in your home with it?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, only a few homecontrol things, but it´s interesting when ppl do actual urban gardening with uno´s but i don´t do that
    Bruce Mowbray: wow!
    Bruce Mowbray ponders doing gardening with a machine. Reminds him of the Roomba.
    Bruce Mowbray: the vacuum sweeper that is a robot.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: there are so many these days
    Wol Euler nods.
    Bruce Mowbray: [btw: during the last break I realized that my computers clock is running almost 10 seconds slower than the SL clock. So, my computer's clock said we had 10 seconds to go before the drop -- but the SL clock had other ideas!]
    Yakuzza Lethecus: is ur clock out of atomic sync or sl ?
    Bruce Mowbray: Well, my computer's clock is just doing its thing. I don't know whether it's calibrated with an atomic clock or not.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i would guess ur clock is correct, i never measured the lack
    Yakuzza Lethecus: lag
    Bruce Mowbray: Time warp?
    Bruce Mowbray: Let's do the time warp again!!!!!
    Bruce Mowbray:
    Yakuzza Lethecus: time warp ?
    Wol Euler: it's just a jump to the left
    Bruce Mowbray: From the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: oh, i would think of like startrek IV :P
    Wol Euler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg-vgGuTD8A
    Bruce Mowbray: don't forget to bring the rice!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but i guessed thats wrong
    Bruce Mowbray: TY, Wol!
    Bruce Mowbray: WONDERFUL!
    Bruce Mowbray: (I've just downloaded and saved that video!)
    --BELL--
    Bruce Mowbray: LET'S DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!
    Bruce Mowbray: LET'S DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!
    Bruce Mowbray: Put your hands on your hips and your knees inside. LET'S DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!
    Qt Core: the most famous time warp and it isn't even a sci-fi movie...
    Bruce Mowbray: HA HA!
    Wol Euler: ah, wonderful. they don't write them like that any more.
    Bruce Mowbray: for sure, Wol!
    Bruce Mowbray: Many happy midnight memories in a theater in Dayton Ohio.
    Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!
    Bruce Mowbray: over 3 decades ago.
    Bruce Mowbray: Time for me to be gone.
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks everyone for a delightful Friday evening.
    Wol Euler: bye bruce, take care
    Bruce Mowbray:
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bruce
    Qt Core: bye, ops
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i think i have to watch the rocky horror picture show at some point, of course i know the name but i never watched it
    Wol Euler: O.O
    Wol Euler: really?
    Wol Euler: wow, yes you do
    Qt Core: i don't know if i ever finished it myself
    Qt Core: but i haven't tried it in past 25 years i think
    Yakuzza Lethecus: the movie is 7 years older then i am
    Wol Euler laughs.
    Wol Euler: wow
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ok, i wish you both a good weekend!
    Qt Core: Bye Yaku, have fun
    Wol Euler: bye yaku
    Qt Core: pretty boring weekend for me.... finally ;-)
    Qt Core: while in next weeks i may end up visiting a client, first time in my career, scary thought
    Wol Euler: O.O
    Wol Euler: well, I understand. Good luck!
    Qt Core: funny things that in that place now works the guy that first talked to me when i started where i work... and the first think we agreed on was that i don't want to talk to clients ;-)
    Wol Euler nods.
    Wol Euler: times change :) and poeple too
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: 's current display-name is "Curious Foo".
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: hello guyz
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: meditating?
    Qt Core: Hi Curious
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: hi
    Wol Euler: heheh
    Wol Euler: hello Foo
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: loly
    Wol Euler: talking about work and change
    --BELL--
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: change like what,change of work?
    Qt Core: and this times that make you accept the second to keep the first
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: hihi,i love this
    Wol Euler nods.
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: yes,its pretty odd,we are becoming more and ,ore distant in rl and close in sl
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: and evolution of this place will be crazy
    Qt Core: maybe as we feel that we "choose" the one we frequent in sl and not so much the one in rl ?
    Qt Core: add some plural 's' here and there
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: well i think we all here are a bit,whats the word...not mizantrops but little off
    Wol Euler: well, we are definitely not average citizens (yet)
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: yes,you are right
    Wol Euler: but I think the average is going to catch up with us, slowly
    Qt Core: more open as it is more easy to close up ?
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: a bit different,probably
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: i even think this game can make us more receptive in rl
    Wol Euler: this way of connecting will become mainstream, typical even
    Wol Euler: game and world will blend, and both will change
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: yes,its weird how sl ist interesting yet to facebook and google
    Qt Core: we just have to have it on google glass ;-)
    Wol Euler: (that is, if climate change doesn't end our civilization and start a new Dark Age)
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: yes and then implants will came
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: this will be a big bubble of sex ;))
    Qt Core: there is a (usuallly) good radio in italy, called lifegate that is very green-oriented and they keep asking if people thinks and compensate for the energy/pollution generate from running your website (especially if you are a firm)
    Qt Core: the same people that visit amazon how much will pollute if taking car/airplanes/train to go to a single phisical location ?
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: i doubt that we are guilty for this change,i think we are too small for something like this
    Wol Euler nods.
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: unimportant
    Wol Euler: that's like saying that no single virus is responsible for the patient dying, but the fact is that the patient *does* die
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: earth is very powerfull,if we are going on her nerves she could wipe us in a matter of minutes
    Wol Euler: that's what climate change is, foo.
    Wol Euler: it's happening now
    Wol Euler: anyway :) enough of this from me
    Wol Euler: goodnight, stay safe and healthy
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: thanks you too
    Qt Core: bye Wol, sleep well
    Wol Euler: you too!
    Wol Euler: don't forget the gym tomorrow morning, qt! heheh
    Qt Core: :-)
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: you are from Italy?
    Qt Core: remembering yes, going no, i can't tomorrow
    Qt Core: yes, i am
    --BELL--
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: we are neighbours ;),iam from croatia
    Qt Core: :-)
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: didnt see many italians here or croats
    Qt Core: sadly most italians on sl refuse to speak english and ends up in their own sims, remembering me about indian reserves
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: do they refuse like french or just dont know?
    Qt Core: both, nowadays most of italians studied english in school
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: we are also so so in english
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: i will go now,see q.
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: ya
    Qt Core: i have to admit that the english i learned in school has nothing to do with the one i use now ;-)
    Qt Core: bye Courious
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: you speak good
    Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: bye

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