2014.06.22 13:00 - Grace is an interesting Word

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.

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    Catrinamonblue Resident: 's current display-name is "Catrinamonblue".
    Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
    Bruce Mowbray: Cat -- aggers!
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Bruce :) Hi Aggers :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello!
    Bruce Mowbray: Are we still Solsticing?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, I'm off to Aph's at 2PM
    Catrinamonblue Resident: I've been too busy this weekend
    Bruce Mowbray: me too!
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh great and I'm grey again
    Catrinamonblue Resident: you look fine to me
    Bruce Mowbray: I mean off to Aph's... not too busy.
    Bruce Mowbray: you look great to me, aggers.
    Catrinamonblue Resident: beautiful dress :)
    Bruce Mowbray: yes a beautiful white dress!
    Agatha Macbeth: Thanks
    Bruce Mowbray: and gold ornaments!
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Agatha Macbeth: Hang on I'll be back

     I poof and relog

    Bruce Mowbray: I'm in my 18th century garb... ready for whatever happens with Aph.
    Bruce Mowbray: okay take your time.
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: I had problems like this, also -- but I blamed it on sunspots.
    Catrinamonblue Resident: I never seem to, though today I'm testing a tablet :)
    Bruce Mowbray: at one point Pandora radio sent me a message that they could not deliver music if my connection was below 64 k.
    Agatha Macbeth: Right, let's see if this works any better
    Bruce Mowbray: imagine that!
    Bruce Mowbray: you still look great to me, aggers!
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah that's better
    Catrinamonblue Resident: beautiful nas always to me :)
    Bruce Mowbray: my typist even called his ISP about it . . .
    Bruce Mowbray: considered moving to an upgrade plan....
    Agatha Macbeth: ISP?
    Bruce Mowbray: then tested his Internet speed again . . . and found it to be what it should be, so gave up on the upgrade.
    Bruce Mowbray: Internet Service Provider.
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Catrinamonblue Resident: nods
    Agatha Macbeth: Right
    Bruce Mowbray: out here in the boonies, we rely upon antennas -- no cable.
    Bruce Mowbray: so things get rather weird sometimes, if you get my meaning.
    Bruce Mowbray: but I had never received a warning like that from Pandora before.
    Agatha Macbeth: That I can well believe
    Catrinamonblue Resident: i'm lucky in the town I live in I have DSL
    Bruce Mowbray: no DSL out here!
    Catrinamonblue Resident: so faast enough :)
    Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!
    Agatha Macbeth: Is that the one with the box?
    Bruce Mowbray: listens carefully.
    Agatha Macbeth: Only hope was left as I recall
    Bruce Mowbray: ..... all my typist has is an antenna and a wire connected to his computer.... no box.
    --BELL--1315
    Bruce Mowbray: the signal comes off another antenna on top of the watertower in a nearby town.
    Catrinamonblue Resident: I have a wireless modem connected to the phone line. Next week my new apartment has internet over cable. Will be interesting to see the difference.
    Bruce Mowbray: wow!
    Bruce Mowbray considers himself lucky even to have a phone line. . . which unfortunately comes through cell phone towers.....
    Bruce Mowbray: in the same town that the water tower is located in.
    Bruce Mowbray: 5 miles away.
    Bruce Mowbray: but a completely separate system.
    Agatha Macbeth: You're in the wilderness Brucie?
    Bruce Mowbray: yes I think I am!
    Bruce Mowbray: in more ways than one!
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: me smiles
    Agatha Macbeth: Must be nice
    Bruce Mowbray: but then, these were my typist's choices.... 43 years ago.
    Bruce Mowbray: and here he is, still making those same choices.
    Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Well at least he's consistent
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :-D

    Bruce vanishes again

    Agatha Macbeth: Uh oh
    Agatha Macbeth: He did it again
    Bruce Mowbray: this always confuses Blub.
    Bruce Mowbray: oooops.
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Bruce is underground
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: looks like some alterations are called for....
    Agatha Macbeth: How's the view?
    Bruce Mowbray: Gary go.
    Catrinamonblue Resident: there you are!! :)
    Bruce Mowbray: There we go.
    Agatha Macbeth: WB
    Bruce Mowbray: the Dragon is acting up too.
    Bruce Mowbray: ty!
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh send him on a holiday
    Bruce Mowbray: he is more sociable than I am, actually.
    Agatha Macbeth: Not much use at spelling tho
    Bruce Mowbray: you mean the Dragon? or did you mean Blub?
    Agatha Macbeth: Drag
    Agatha Macbeth: No, Blubster doesn't need a holiday
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: okay. I meant that Blub was more sociable than I am.
    Agatha Macbeth: Fish are like that
    Agatha Macbeth: Shoals, etc.
    Bruce Mowbray: concerning the Dragon . . . who knows?
    Bruce Mowbray: Are dragons related to fish?
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe descended from them
    Bruce Mowbray: hmmmm.
    Bruce Mowbray: personally, I think that is pretty weird,
    Bruce Mowbray: my typist has been fixated on watching snakes eating.
    Bruce Mowbray: but he considers it beautiful.
    Agatha Macbeth: Thinking about it, they both have scales
    Bruce Mowbray: yes, like grocers.
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes I like snakes
    Bruce Mowbray: which reminds me of a quote from Zorba....
    Agatha Macbeth: 'Never get in bed with an anaconda'?
    Bruce Mowbray: no.
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Bruce Mowbray: more like, " British intellectuals are like groceries: they measure everything."
    Bruce Mowbray: grocers*
    Agatha Macbeth: Hm
    Bruce Mowbray: sorry about the Dragon.
    Agatha Macbeth: There are so few of them, they may well be
    Bruce Mowbray ponders sending the Dragon back to his aquarium . . . as I have sometimes sent Blub, when he misbehaves.
    Agatha Macbeth: He doesn't live in a cave?
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm sorry; I'm a bit confused about pronoun references.
    Agatha Macbeth: Drag
    Bruce Mowbray: which he do you mean? the Dragon, Blub, my typist?
    Bruce Mowbray: okay.
    Bruce Mowbray: I don't know whether he lives in a cave or a software program.
    Agatha Macbeth: Thought dragons live in caves
    Agatha Macbeth: Guarding gold
    Bruce Mowbray: yes, I would think so.... or maybe under bridges, like trolls.
    Bruce Mowbray: AHHH! Wagner's Ring cycle!
    Agatha Macbeth: That doesn't seem right somehow
    Bruce Mowbray: Rheingold.
    Agatha Macbeth: Fafnir?
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh dear, would have to check that out via Google.
    Agatha Macbeth: Regin's brother I think
    Bruce Mowbray: kk.
    Agatha Macbeth: (Not Ronald)
    Bruce Mowbray: where is Wol today?
    Agatha Macbeth: Good question
    Bruce Mowbray: I miss her.
    Agatha Macbeth: Could be working late
    Bruce Mowbray: she lands and excellent balance to my typist's nonsense.
    Bruce Mowbray: lends*
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: lends an*
    Agatha Macbeth: Zen never had this trouble!
    Bruce Mowbray: Zen Arado?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
    Bruce Mowbray: what is the trouble?
    Agatha Macbeth: Dunno what he used tho
    Bruce Mowbray: oh you mean about the Dragon....
    Agatha Macbeth: Voice typing
    Bruce Mowbray: the thing about the Dragon is this: it needs to be trained carefully....
    Bruce Mowbray: and my typist has not done that....
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Bruce Mowbray: so, there are words and expressions that the Dragon doesn't understand.
    Agatha Macbeth: I prefer to make my own mistakes
    Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!
    Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
    Bruce Mowbray: was that a mistake?
    Agatha Macbeth: Nah, you came back
    Bruce Mowbray: I came right back --- the cat came back the very next day! they thought he was a goner but the cat came back!
    Agatha Macbeth: She did indeed
    --BELL--1330
    Bruce Mowbray: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjMffHG1V_Q
    Agatha Macbeth: Shh! ;P
    Catrinamonblue Resident: I'm going to go guys. Hadn't realized how very tired I was till I stopped running around and sat down :-) My eyes keep drifting shut. Still a lot to do tonight and this next week will be insanely busy with packing the last of my stuff for the big move on Saturday. :)
    Bruce Mowbray: BYE, Cat!
    Agatha Macbeth: Are those 18th century antlers?
    Bruce Mowbray: COME BACK when you can!
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now Cat
    Catrinamonblue Resident: I will thanks guys :)
    Agatha Macbeth: ^.^
    Agatha Macbeth: Bless her
    Bruce Mowbray: indeed.
    Agatha Macbeth: Everyone seems to be moving...
    Bruce Mowbray: moving?
    Bruce Mowbray: do you have vertigo?
    Bruce Mowbray: My typist does, have vertigo I mean.
    Bruce Mowbray: things get weird sometimes.
    Bruce Mowbray: like this morning, when he got out very early to pick up litter....
    Agatha Macbeth: Things get weird when you *don't* have vertigo
    Bruce Mowbray: really?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep, IMHO
    Bruce Mowbray: tell me about it, please.
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh too complicated
    Bruce Mowbray: for sure.
    Bruce Mowbray: I understand.
    Bruce Mowbray: ( so does the Dragon.)
    Agatha Macbeth: Like spending half the day in the garden
    Agatha Macbeth: And still not getting it all done
    Bruce Mowbray: just got a note from Bert!
    Bruce Mowbray: my typist used to have a garden.
    Agatha Macbeth: Will have to miss him tonight
    Bruce Mowbray: nods.
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes at this time of year it's never ending
    Bruce Mowbray: I am torn between solstice activities with Aph and Bert's meditation session. I'm thinking I'll go to Bert's.
    Agatha Macbeth: OK
    Bruce Mowbray: nods.
    Agatha Macbeth: Too much on at once
    Bruce Mowbray: my typist has been practicing bifurcation --- being in two places at once . . .
    Bruce Mowbray: somehow it never seems to work out.
    Agatha Macbeth: How's your alt these days?
    Bruce Mowbray: I think it's about focus . . .
    Bruce Mowbray: my alt?
    Bruce Mowbray: who is that?
    Agatha Macbeth: Jo was it?
    Bruce Mowbray: You must mean IO!
    Bruce Mowbray: this is utterly amazing!
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, could be
    Bruce Mowbray: I was speaking of Io just yesterday....
    Bruce Mowbray: at a real-world meeting....
    Agatha Macbeth: I only know that as a moon :p
    Bruce Mowbray: I have not even thought about her for months and months.
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    Bruce Mowbray: yes, Io is a moon of Jupiter.
    Agatha Macbeth: Synchronicity
    Bruce Mowbray: my typist was attending a human rights group in a nearby town....
    Agatha Macbeth: Is that the volcanically active one?
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Bruce Mowbray: and he mentioned that Second Life as a vehicle through which persons might experience things safely....
    Bruce Mowbray: things they had curiosities about.... perhaps
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh good
    Bruce Mowbray: and he mentioned that for two weeks he had assumed an opposite sex avatar (IO!)
    Bruce Mowbray: Io!
    Agatha Macbeth: Io and behold
    Bruce Mowbray: and that she was his most uncomfortable experience in Second Life, actually.
    Bruce Mowbray: but it was a valuable experience.
    Agatha Macbeth: Really?
    Bruce Mowbray: yes!
    Agatha Macbeth: Can you say why?
    Bruce Mowbray: what happened was that my typist found himself falling back into sexist stereotypes.
    Bruce Mowbray: simply because he had appeared as female.
    Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
    Bruce Mowbray: this was very disturbing, to say the least.
    Agatha Macbeth: On your part, or on other peoples'?
    Bruce Mowbray: No, it was disturbing to my typist....
    Agatha Macbeth: I see
    Bruce Mowbray: to have to accept that he was a sexist.
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh wow
    Bruce Mowbray: he wishes he could have assumed that identity with more grace,
    Bruce Mowbray: instead of falling back into the stereotypes...
    Agatha Macbeth: Grace is an interesting word
    Agatha Macbeth: Always makes me think of Mary
    Bruce Mowbray: submission, waiting for some male to lead the way . . . that sort of thing.
    Bruce Mowbray: so what does it mean to be full of grace?
    Agatha Macbeth: Always fatal that ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: Ah!
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes I always pondered that
    Bruce Mowbray: I have an example.
    Agatha Macbeth: Guess religiously it has a specific meaning
    Bruce Mowbray: but it is sort of private, although I will share it with you . . . through an IM.
    Bruce Mowbray: if that's all right.
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh okay
    Bruce Mowbray: kk.
    Agatha Macbeth: Sure

    Which he did

    --BELL--1345
    Agatha Macbeth smiles
    Agatha Macbeth: Wonder if there will be any more retreats in RL?
    Bruce Mowbray: I doubt it.
    Agatha Macbeth: :(
    Bruce Mowbray: folks seem rather scattered right now.
    Agatha Macbeth: Shame, many people seemed to get much from them
    Bruce Mowbray: OH yes!
    Bruce Mowbray: have you ever been to one?
    Agatha Macbeth: Not in RL no
    Bruce Mowbray: nods.
    Agatha Macbeth: Think Liz has been to all of them :p
    Bruce Mowbray: it is a strange -- perhaps difficult -- transition from Second Life space to the real world..... My typist did not make that transition gracefully.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, Liz was at the Nova Scotia retreat.
    Bruce Mowbray: what a wonderful person she is!
    Agatha Macbeth: Absolutely
    Agatha Macbeth: A true gem
    Bruce Mowbray: Well, my friend, I think I'm going to take a brief break before Bert's meditation session.
    Bruce Mowbray: thank you.
    Bruce Mowbray: you are also a gem!
    Agatha Macbeth smiles gracefully
    Agatha Macbeth: YW
    Bruce Mowbray: bye for now.
    Agatha Macbeth: TC, love to Berti

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