2014.06.21 01:00 - Fantasy and Meditations

The Guardian for this meeting was No Self. The comments are by No Self.

Agatha Macbeth: Ee that were fun
Wol Euler: aye
Wol Euler: so, what's new?
Agatha Macbeth: Not a lot
Wol Euler: nice WM t-shirt, but you left off the black armband :-P
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Wol Euler giggles.
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe I should make one
Wol Euler: it would be appropriate and funny, in a sad way
Agatha Macbeth: Dead wih it
Wol Euler: yup
Wol Euler: ah, I see Qt is missing the gym again today
Agatha Macbeth: with*
Agatha Macbeth: Big place to lose
Wol Euler: his aim is not true
Agatha Macbeth: He could just put an excercise bike in his bedroom
Agatha Macbeth: Morning o unfit one :p
Qt Core: Hi Wol, Agatha
Wol Euler: good morning, qt

Agatha Macbeth: Missed the gym?
Wol Euler grins.
Qt Core: went there yesterday, still recovering ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Agatha Macbeth: Trouble is I bet you're always hungry when you get back
Wol Euler: aww indeed
Wol Euler: and: good for you.
Qt Core: it is more a "the day after" effect for me, i'm more thirsty just after
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: Understandable
Qt Core: i don't like drinking while at the gym
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: What, it doesn't have a bar?
Wol Euler: I thought the exercise machines all came with cup (bottle) holders now ....
Wol Euler: my aunt's basement walking thing does
Qt Core: no, it is a little place, so just a couple vending machine, i was referring to the idea that you should bring a water bottle with you and drink while working
Agatha Macbeth: A man walks into a bar
Agatha Macbeth: Ouch
Qt Core: i hate the feeling of water swashing in my stomach
Agatha Macbeth: It's an iron bar
Agatha Macbeth stands up and bows

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: Hello Foo :)
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: hello pips ;)
Qt Core: Hi Foo
Agatha Macbeth: How's things?
Wol Euler: hello foo
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: hello
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: just grooving around in serach for...
Wol Euler: ... Godot?
Wol Euler: he left a message
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: yes!
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: what he said?
Qt Core: not breakfast ?
Agatha Macbeth: Mr Godot has left the building
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: he ows me moneh
Agatha Macbeth: What a scoundrel
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: yes,that bastard ;)
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: you are meditating
Agatha Macbeth: Keeps everybody waiting too
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: or just hang
Agatha Macbeth: Dunno, are we meditating Wollie?
Wol Euler: ommmmmmmm
Qt Core: or just mmm

Wol Euler: we seldom meditate *here* actually
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: is there a special way to meditate in sl?
Agatha Macbeth: Bit early for me
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: sl med
Wol Euler: well, it's not that different from RL :) usually the posture is the hardest bit, because our typists are commonly sitting on a firm office chair in front of a desk (or equivalent)
Wol Euler: so the legs-tucked-up traditional posture is difficult, your typist has to walk away from SL to do that
Wol Euler: otherwise no
Agatha Macbeth: There's a school of thought which says typists *should* be in an office :p

Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: is someone familiar with TM?
Wol Euler: only as a name
Agatha Macbeth: Trademark?
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: transcendental medit.
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: its very expensive
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: an they are like some secret society
Wol Euler: O.O
Agatha Macbeth: Count me out then
Wol Euler: why?
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: nobody dont want to tell how you make it
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: there are some tips on internet but very little
Agatha Macbeth: Don't you need a guru or something?
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: course is very expensive and you dont know is it real deal cause there are scamers
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: no guru
Agatha Macbeth: Hm
Wol Euler: sounds like a con to me, frankly
Wol Euler: I mean, everyone has to live, but that ...
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: lynch,seinfeld,brand,andy kaufmann,its a long list,i dont belive its fake
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: those people are not stupid i think
Agatha Macbeth: Just rich :p
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: many of them go to tm to save lives after drugs and all
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: to find peace
Agatha Macbeth: Can be a hard thing to attain that
Qt Core: wouln't anything giving you a purpose do the trik ?

Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: its hard when you can do almsot everything to keep sanity
Agatha Macbeth nods
Wol Euler: perhaps somebody whose self-control is that weak needs a formal outside system to recover. I can see that working.
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: its possible
Wol Euler: AA works similarly, but with a christian flavour
Wol Euler: and more groupiness
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: oh,i dont like that flavour
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: aa is christian product?
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: didnt know that
Agatha Macbeth: What about the RAC?

--BELL--

Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: what is rac?
Qt Core: it is more a byproduct that a product , AA "needs" you to commit/trust in something "higher" and being born in a (mostly) christian culture...
Qt Core: AA i means
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: true
Agatha Macbeth: Hang on, I'm thinking of a different AA
Wol Euler: not necessarily christina
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: are we talking about alcohol anonymus?
Wol Euler: *christian, even
Wol Euler: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Christina?
Wol Euler: well, three of us are
Agatha Macbeth: The strawberry girl
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: i will research this conn between aa and christianity
Agatha Macbeth: Hallelujah
Agatha Macbeth waves her hands in the air
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: ave Agatha
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: ;)
Agatha Macbeth smiles modestly
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: my friend was atending aa and never mention this
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: what is rac agatha?
Agatha Macbeth: Actually, AA seems to mean a lot of things

Wol Euler: okay, I admit, I've never been to a meeting. I'm judging primarily on literature ("Infinite Jest" in particular)
Agatha Macbeth: The Automobile Association, a British motoring organisation Alcoholics Anonymous, a worldwide fellowship of persons recovering from alcoholism Alcoa, an American aluminium-producing company with the stock ticker symbol AA Alvesta Alternative, a political party in Sweden Amalgamated Association of Iron and Steel Workers, a former union in the United States American Atheists, an organization founded by Madalyn Murray O'Hair Andecha Astur, an Asturian nationalist party Architects' Association of Denmark (Akademisk Arkitektforening) Architectural Association School of Architecture, London Astrological Association of Great Britain, London Auswärtiges Amt, the Foreign Office of Germany
Agatha Macbeth: RAC = Royal Automobile Club :p
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: hahaha
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: sos
Agatha Macbeth: Save our socks
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: save our souls ;)

Qt Core: i suppose that with the passing of time and the spreading of other religion and culture their religion focus may be weakening
Agatha Macbeth: Few architects in there too I see
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: i really hope so,it will be changed with cyber-techno religion
Qt Core: in the end what you need is a Reason not to drink
Agatha Macbeth agrees with QT
Agatha Macbeth: Cause and effect
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: but we need some pressure release,like sl maybe,virta
Wol Euler nods.
Qt Core: or maybe we need SL anonymous...

Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: i heard some scientist talking that we cant live without fantasy
Agatha Macbeth: I sure can't
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: sl anonymus,good ide
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: idea
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: me too,its like a drug
Qt Core: after all aren't new invention byproducts of fantasy, that is the revolutionary ones, not just the improvment of something ?
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: love is a fantasy also
Agatha Macbeth: 'Hotter than reality by far' and all that
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: implants will be crazy when arrive
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: chips
Agatha Macbeth: Not sure I'll go that far :p
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: it will be normal to have,first they will start with medical ones
Agatha Macbeth: The only chips I want are on a plate
Wol Euler already has a mouth full of implants, just not internet-aware ones
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: and when famous rock star put one,every kid will want it
Qt Core: then there would be control governmental issued ones... ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Is it true they pick up radio stations, or is that an urban myth?

--BELL--

Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: they already control us
Qt Core: do they ? ;-)
Qt Core: i liked how they were depricted in the first chapters og Hyperion
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: only if you live in wood then you are maybe free ;),but i dont think you got wireless there ;)
Wol Euler: mine aren't radios, aggers, but I wouldn't exclude the possibility
Agatha Macbeth: Tuning would be a problem
Qt Core: basically instant access to wikipedia and google, and virtual presence (and voting right) in parliament for everyone wanting it
Agatha Macbeth: You mean we could tell them what to do?
Qt Core: no, direct democracy
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Agatha Macbeth: Not the same then
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: like in switzerlnd
Qt Core: you are interested in something you log in the parliament and vote on the current matter at hand
Agatha Macbeth: And they listen?
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: its possible only there cause the ripped whole world
Wol Euler: um, could you say that again in different words please?`
Qt Core: the idea in that books is that there is no fixed members of parliament everyone can log in and vote
Agatha Macbeth: Моё судно на воздушной подушке полно угрей
Qt Core: that is if i remember it right, read in a couple decades ago
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: My hovercraft is full of eels,hihi
Agatha Macbeth: Somewhow I doubt the country would run any smoother :p
Qt Core: Hyperion by Dan SImmons, btw
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: i red first book
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: it was to hard to me
Agatha Macbeth: What's that QT?
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: how many books are there?
Qt Core: the book where there is chips in heads
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, dunno that one
Qt Core: 4
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: it was on english and i couldnt get it all
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: too complicated
Agatha Macbeth: I associate Hyperion with a) Titans and b) A software company
Qt Core: don't read it if you don't like seeing catholicism being warped, time travel and general chaos
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: and with hypsters ;)
Wol Euler: sounds like fun
Agatha Macbeth: Hypsters eh?
Qt Core: and a big bad very sharp monster
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe

--BELL--

Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: i thought hipsters are a new thing but just recently start watching seinfeld again and they mention hipsters many times
Agatha Macbeth: The guy next door is singing carols while cutting the hedge :p
Agatha Macbeth: How topical
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: your neighbour?
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: haha
Agatha Macbeth: Not sure if it's for last Xmas or next
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: how many this chat rooms are here?
Qt Core: hoping he isn't doing it in full winter attire
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: in this ism?
Agatha Macbeth: He'll be very warm if he is
Agatha Macbeth: This sim (Bieup) is basically just PaB Foo
Agatha Macbeth: The rest of it is most guardian plots
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: i went to page play as being and saw many different rooms
Agatha Macbeth: Apart from the museum and art dome
Agatha Macbeth: Oh?
Agatha Macbeth: You have an url?

Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: i clickked it when that 90 seconds pause start
Agatha Macbeth: (Address to the page)
Agatha Macbeth: On our wiki you mean?
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: yes
Wol Euler: ah, the one that comes up first is the SL retreat space
Agatha Macbeth: Ah yes
Agatha Macbeth: Many different chapters
Wol Euler: there's also the village hall, and the Kira cafe
Wol Euler: (that#s where the dream workshops are held)
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: yes
Agatha Macbeth: The café is on a different sim tho
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: many places for talk,thtas cool
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: saw also talks on other sims
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: or places
Agatha Macbeth: It used to be on Baikun up north along with Kira Japan, but got moved
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: what is Pab agatha?
Agatha Macbeth: Playasbeing
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: ;)
Agatha Macbeth: That the group
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: not good with this shortcuts
Agatha Macbeth: We also have a friends group which is open to all
Agatha Macbeth: Anyways
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: ok,must go,it was nice talking,see ya
Agatha Macbeth: IMe too
Agatha Macbeth: Me too*
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: bye
Wol Euler: me three
Wol Euler: bye foo, bye aggers
Agatha Macbeth: Shopping waits for no woman
Wol Euler: enjoy the weekend
Qt Core: ok, time to start the day, then
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: shooping monsterz ;))
Agatha Macbeth: Have fun folks
Wol Euler waves.
Qt Core: bye Agatha
Mediterraneanmonkseal Resident: byee
Qt Core: and bye Foo
Wol Euler: bye for now
Qt Core: and bye WOl too