2015.07.30 13:00 - Dream Session: A Suspended Observer

The Guardian for this meeting was Mickood Renard...

Eliza Madrigal: you look very glamorous today Cat
Catrinamonblue Resident: lol thanks :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: wanted to say "oh this old thing?" in a Marlyn Monroe type way :)
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: cute
Catrinamonblue Resident: just what came to mind when you said glamorous :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal zooms around
Eliza Madrigal: I'm not ready to give feedback about this pavilion yet! I feel like I settle into it new every time
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: it's very different, I'm not sure how I feel about it
Catrinamonblue Resident: I'm not going to be at the feedback meeting as I'm going to be away for the weekend
Eliza Madrigal: again? :)) nice
Catrinamonblue Resident: I keep trying to tell him to leave me a few weekends free but... :) he loves to go out a lot :)
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Catrinamonblue Resident: and really I am enjoying it too
Eliza Madrigal: yes, good to have someone to pull you out
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: we are going on a wine tour this weekend :)
Eliza Madrigal: oooo

--BELL--

Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: have always wanted to do that
Catrinamonblue Resident: it should be interesting
Eliza Madrigal: we have a winery nearby but it is for avocado and mango wine
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mick!
Catrinamonblue Resident: interesting
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Mick :)
Mickorod Renard: Hiya
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zon :)
Eliza Madrigal: miss the tux
Zon Kwan: hey all
Zon Kwan: smiles
Catrinamonblue Resident: HI Zon, Bruce :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hey Bruce :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: HI Aggers :)
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, everyone! -- You too, aggers.
Agatha Macbeth: Hello
Eliza Madrigal: Just to let everyone know, I'll sneak away a little early today
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aggers :)
Agatha Macbeth: Sneaky!
Mickorod Renard: he he
Bruce Mowbray: np, Eliza.
Agatha Macbeth: That's good actually, you can TP me ;-)
Eliza Madrigal: :P
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Luci
Eliza Madrigal: Luci!
Mickorod Renard: Hi folks that I havnt said hi to yet
Lucinda Lavender: HI:)
Zon Kwan: hi Luci
Eliza Madrigal: lovely to see you at dreams session
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Agatha Macbeth: No pyjamas today?
Lucinda Lavender: I was just checking in and for got that this was happening:)
Lucinda Lavender: very good:)
Eliza Madrigal: welcome :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Qt :)
Agatha Macbeth: Buona sera Qt
Qt Core: Hi all
Mickorod Renard: hi QT
Zon Kwan: hi Qt

Eliza Madrigal: how many have dreams today?
Lucinda Lavender: Luci listens
Agatha Macbeth: You OK Brucie?
Mickorod Renard: I had a dream about the last dream i gave
Agatha Macbeth: Oh my
Eliza Madrigal: oh, that's interesting
Eliza Madrigal listens
Bruce Mowbray: Wow!
Lucinda Lavender: nods
Agatha Macbeth: This should be good
Mickorod Renard: it was some wierd explanation dream
Zon Kwan: same lady ?

Bruce Mowbray: So, that's a dream about a dream within a dream, Mick?
Mickorod Renard: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Spiegel im spiegel
Eliza Madrigal: ^^
Mickorod Renard: I guess it was cos i went to bed shortly after we chatted about it
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Lucinda Lavender: in some circles it is looked at as a teaching dream...
Mickorod Renard: but it wouldnt make much sense unles you had read the first one
Agatha Macbeth: The first one made sense? :p
Eliza Madrigal: the main thing is whether it helped to clarify your feelings about it
Mickorod Renard: yes it did in a way
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
Mickorod Renard: you're welcome to have it
Agatha Macbeth: Love to
Mickorod Renard: but maybe someone else has a single dream?
Eliza Madrigal: I had a similar thing happen with the dream I shared a few weeks ago, saw the truck I was driving with more clarity of context - but I don't need to elaborate. It does seem sharing this way helps though, not only in session but after :)

Agatha Macbeth: Did Liz say she had one, or did I dream it?
Eliza Madrigal: I don't think so :) Must have been a dream, Aggers :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hm
Mickorod Renard: he he
Agatha Macbeth: Frogs and butterflies

Mickorod Renard: I can hand out both dreams to those who didnt have the previous one and so on
Lucinda Lavender: great!
Mickorod Renard: if you wish
Agatha Macbeth: I just need the follow up :p
Eliza Madrigal: ok!
Mickorod Renard: ok
Eliza Madrigal: yes, just follow up for me too
Bruce Mowbray: I have the first one but not the second one, Mick.
Qt Core: that would be nice, Mick
Bruce Mowbray nods.
Eliza Madrigal listens to Nat King Cole's spanish album in the background
Bruce Mowbray: ty, Mick. got it.
Eliza Madrigal: gracias, Mick
Mickorod Renard: ok,,the gun shop was first,,then the gun shop review second
Mickorod Renard: please let me know if anyone didnt get it/them?
Eliza Madrigal: finished reading, smiling. Going to run for tea while others finish...
Mickorod Renard: kk

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray is re-reading the seond dream.
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Mickorod Renard: hiya
Mickorod Renard: everyone has nodded off,,shhhh
Eliza Madrigal snorts
Bruce Mowbray: nope, just finished reading the second dream.
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Mickorod Renard: he he

Eliza Madrigal: Will just share first impressions, which are that I feel relieved ... seems closer to the feeling than what I remember our leaving off with
Mickorod Renard: I had a dream last night where I went to my dreaded old french house again
Bruce Mowbray: Interested in the "suspended" state you were in at the beginning of the dream....
Eliza Madrigal: yes!
Mickorod Renard: yes, I wondered if i had borrowed that from some shakepearian play
Eliza Madrigal: tangible description
Bruce Mowbray: You seemed to be a suspended observer of your own life.
Mickorod Renard: it seemed like i had seen that setting before
Mickorod Renard: yes
Mickorod Renard: but I almost felt i had been on trial too
Bruce Mowbray: and you were observing paths -- not covered with snow, but with black blotches on it.
Mickorod Renard: like a naughty pupil perhaps
Mickorod Renard: yeh, spooky that they were just hollow holes to nowhere
Bruce Mowbray listens.
Bruce Mowbray: holes to no where, but a path nonetheless.
Mickorod Renard: but the sex thing was comforting,,that it didnt seem to just be sexual
Mickorod Renard: re second dream explanation
Bruce Mowbray: Your previous dream also had roads in it (with tram tracks, etc.)
Mickorod Renard: ahh yes, true
Eliza Madrigal: you've probably never read the stories of people encountering dakinis .. but you may want to read some
Bruce Mowbray: "Where" are you going -- or deciding to go?
Mickorod Renard: I have read one at least
Mickorod Renard: Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: especially since you are so strongly drawn to Magdalene
Eliza Madrigal: oh? scary at first, most of the time
Mickorod Renard: well, She seems to feature in my head too often
Mickorod Renard: although I hadnt registered that in the first dream until after
Eliza Madrigal: hm

Mickorod Renard: but yes, there has been the woman,,usually at the end,,and providing soem sort of comfort
Eliza Madrigal: dream transmissions are a little esoteric of subject matter but think to mention
Mickorod Renard: how do you mean Eliza?
Mickorod Renard: dream transmission?
Eliza Madrigal: it is just that you mention there being no obstacle in the encounter, that the sexual is more to be understood as spiritual
Mickorod Renard: ah I see, yes....I think in most my sexual encounter dreams that would fit better
Eliza Madrigal nods

Mickorod Renard: I think that realization in the second dream was the relief
Mickorod Renard: it made it clear to me, the feeling of well being and removal of .........friction,,or drag
Eliza Madrigal nods, that's what comes across to me reading, too

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: although still perplexed about the very end of first dream :)
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Zon
Mickorod Renard: it was so clear during the dream,,unfortunatly when you come out it often seems nonsense
Agatha Macbeth nods
Mickorod Renard: bye zon
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe dreams have their own logic
Eliza Madrigal: no feels like a fortunate revisiting but I'm curious about others' thoughts
Mickorod Renard: me too
Eliza Madrigal: Luci? any inclinations?

Lucinda Lavender: It feels like there is a lot of awareness in the dream...a flow...and in the black and white path I think of two principles in the color work I study. Black is Resistance and White is Ecstasy.
Agatha Macbeth: Ooer
Mickorod Renard: ahh cool
Lucinda Lavender: In white the body's focus is one of consciousness of body wholeness
Mickorod Renard: so that would fit nicely
Lucinda Lavender: and in black merging with deconstruction and construction...remembering the great flaring forth
Mickorod Renard: when I broke the previous run of visiting the dreaded french house , i ended visiting a white room in the house
Lucinda Lavender: participating in the genesis of a new form...sorry to the bell
Agatha Macbeth: Genisis...like that
Eliza Madrigal: how fascinating... ecstasy and the white room, beginnings
Eliza Madrigal: remembering my white room too, and the feeling of belonging, welcome
Agatha Macbeth: A white room with black curtains

Lucinda Lavender: sending energy toward manifestation
Lucinda Lavender: for white in the dream
Eliza Madrigal: but the sense is, only if one lets something go
Eliza Madrigal: or let's themself go, in a way
Agatha Macbeth: Oops
Eliza Madrigal: oops
Lucinda Lavender: black side organizes the chaos by catching the atoms and transforming them to a more useable organization
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Agatha Macbeth: Mick woke up
Eliza Madrigal laughs wildly
Agatha Macbeth: Wollie ♥
Wol Euler: evening all
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Wol :))
Lucinda Lavender: HI Wol
Eliza Madrigal: hope Mick is able to return soon :)
Agatha Macbeth: You arrive just as Mick crashed
Eliza Madrigal: tada
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: WB Micko

Lucinda Lavender: To sense that one is a presence reminds me of being a witness to something...
Mickorod Renard: Hi, sorry
Eliza Madrigal gave Mick some lines he missed
Mickorod Renard: ty
Mickorod Renard: yes, nice that
Mickorod Renard: ok,,,any more dreams?
Mickorod Renard: Hi Wol
Mickorod Renard: Luci..a witness?
Wol Euler: hello mick
Eliza Madrigal: no I'm still fascinated by this one and the resonances with previous
Mickorod Renard: ponders that

Mickorod Renard: does wol want the note cards with dreams
Mickorod Renard: ?
Mickorod Renard: Wol
Wol Euler: yes plesae
Wol Euler: sorry
Wol Euler: too many IMS
Eliza Madrigal whistles innocently

Lucinda Lavender: About witnessing in a dream it is kind of like awareness...where by watching a story unfold one is learning or perhaps finding helpful intention related to how things get handled
Lucinda Lavender: seeing possibility
Lucinda Lavender: and seeing things which are truths
Mickorod Renard: yes, that def felt the way

Mickorod Renard: I almost felt stupid that I was in efect explaining something to myself
Eliza Madrigal: this new awareness and understanding will affect many previous dreams perhaps, and going forward
Lucinda Lavender: when I feel something vividly in the dream I do consider the possibility of it being personal
Mickorod Renard: yes Eliza
Mickorod Renard: mm yes Luci
Eliza Madrigal: very thankful. I'll sneak away now, and see those who will come to retreat soon. ^.^
Mickorod Renard: It was strange I should have revisited lastnight the french house I dread visiting in mypast dreams
Wol Euler smiles.
Mickorod Renard: bye Eliza, ty
Lucinda Lavender: but then looking at it as if a universal interpretation too was possible
Bruce Mowbray: see you soon, Eliza.

--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: the male/female images the colors, the animals, all bubbling up and becoming a story together
Mickorod Renard: yes, I do wonder whether the explanation may now open my other dreams up for revisit and putting to bed
Mickorod Renard: last night the french house had lost its nieghbour and it allowed me freedom to do what i wanted .....maybe that was the struggle I had had in the past
Bruce Mowbray: Ahhh!
Agatha Macbeth: Love thy neighbour
Mickorod Renard: he he
Mickorod Renard: and also this week I have found myself becoming more forgiving of past stuff
Bruce Mowbray: Excellent!
Mickorod Renard: the letting go,,frees up so much
Mickorod Renard: one can move on
Bruce Mowbray: "Move on' --- the paths, tram lines, and roads?

Mickorod Renard: the sexual element in the dream was a conduit,,to let go
Mickorod Renard: let it flow
Bruce Mowbray: I agree with that, Mick.
Mickorod Renard: so it wasnt so much pervy,,sad really, was fun..but quite an enlightened thing
Lucinda Lavender: new pathways being constructed
Mickorod Renard: yes
Mickorod Renard: it makes me realize how important dreaming is
Bruce Mowbray: "nothing is good or ill but thinking makes it so..."
Mickorod Renard: even if you cannot recall them
Bruce Mowbray nods, agrees.
Mickorod Renard: yes Bruce
Mickorod Renard: exactly
Mickorod Renard: let it go

Lucinda Lavender: I will go now to get ready fo rthe retreat...thanks for sharing your dream I will continue to ponder it.
Mickorod Renard: thankyou Luci
Lucinda Lavender: thanks you
Agatha Macbeth: See you in a bit
Bruce Mowbray: I should be scraping up a bit to eat before the time for the Retreat, so I shall say "bye for now." THANKS, again, Mick, for sharing your dream."
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Mickorod Renard: bye Bruce, thankyou
Agatha Macbeth: Scrapey scrape
Qt Core: bye Bruce
Catrinamonblue Resident: I too need to go. Thanks Mick, it was really interesting :)
Wol Euler: bye cat, take care

Mickorod Renard: I would love to do the retreat but life kids crazy at the mom
Qt Core: bye cat
Mickorod Renard: Bye Cat
Mickorod Renard: lovely to see ya
Agatha Macbeth: Crazy at the mom ha
Wol Euler: but perhaps that is when you would benefit from it most, Mick?
Wol Euler: you don't need a doctor when you are healthy......
Mickorod Renard: you know Wol, that would be right
Wol Euler smiles.
Mickorod Renard: he he
Mickorod Renard: its fitting it in is the prob
Mickorod Renard: timing
Wol Euler whispers "he fell for my trap, mwhaahahahahahah"
Agatha Macbeth pokes Wol in the aer
Mickorod Renard: I was driving back from manchester last night
Agatha Macbeth: and the ear too
Mickorod Renard: something else the day befoere
Wol Euler nods.
Mickorod Renard: plus had that horrid summer cold thats doing the rounds

Mickorod Renard: what time is it sheduled usually?
Mickorod Renard: 2pm?
Wol Euler: the cold? usually late July
Wol Euler: ah
Wol Euler: 2pm
Agatha Macbeth: 2pm
Wol Euler: so we should go soon ...
Mickorod Renard: ok, and is there much left?
Agatha Macbeth: We should
Mickorod Renard: like its at the beginning yeh?
Agatha Macbeth: Starts today
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Mickorod Renard: he he
Mickorod Renard: for an hour?
Agatha Macbeth: 1.5 I think
Mickorod Renard: yikes
Wol Euler: I have to say I don't know if I'll manage the whole of that
Wol Euler: anyway, time to go
Mickorod Renard: I will try tomorrow
Agatha Macbeth: I only agreed to keep Liz company :p

Wol Euler: Mick if you are coming ......
Mickorod Renard: ok , byeeeee,nice 2 c ya
Wol Euler: or see you then :)
Wol Euler: take care
Mickorod Renard: where is it?
Agatha Macbeth: We will dream again next week
Wol Euler: above Eliza's place, literally
Agatha Macbeth: TC Qt
Mickorod Renard: bye qt
Qt Core: bye